This may sound a really, really stupid question. On the other hand, you might understand why I'm somewhat puzzled.

I have infront of me, the CD case to The Essential Michael Jackson, a 2 CD set containing...., well, that's all obvious really isn't it?

I like to read songwriting credits and this is where I am confused. Aware that Wacko, in the main, writes his own material, many songs are credited to Michael J. Jackson. Some are credited to Michael Jackson. Am I to presume that the two credits are the one and the same person?

Y'see, what's crossing my mind is that Michael Jackson was performing whilst still in his diaper and it's fair to assume he was a little too young to write his own stuff. Didn't his father write songs? Thus, what is his father's name?

The thing I'm getting at, is: Is the real songwriter Jacko's father, and 'Michael Jackson' (no middle J) wrote just the odd song.

That way, Michael (J) Jackson wrote most of the songs and we're left to assume that that means the singer/performer Jacko, without questioning any further.

I apologise for how messy this all sounds. I've never seen Michael play an instrument and find it incredible that a non-muso can write so many top choons.

His father is called Joe Jackson so I guess that really doesn't help much. :(

OMG! Suprised this was on the Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson)

(it did say things about what he'd been in court for in a nasty way when I looked before.)

its probably a con for the tax man - payments into seperate accounts that type of thing.

Originally posted by ickle
His father is called Joe Jackson so I guess that really doesn't help much. :(

On the contrary, ickle, it helps a lot.

That means simply, that for some songs Wacko used the song-writing credit Michael J Jackson, and for a few others, he dropped the J.

Thank you.

I would say it's the same person (Michael Jackson) although alot of his biggest album Thriller, was written by a guy called Rod Temperton.

The Motown music was written by motown writers.

probablt smoky robinson or quincy jones or someone

The first solo album Micheal wrote was Off the wall.

I was a big Jackson fan till about the Dangorous album.

Originally posted by Ousetunes
I like to read songwriting credits and this is where I am confused. Aware that Wacko, in the main, writes his own material, many songs are credited to Michael J. Jackson. Some are credited to Michael Jackson. Am I to presume that the two credits are the one and the same person?

It's all quite simple really - as Ousetunes say's MJ used Michael Jackson for some credits and Michael J Jackson for others purely because he wanted to.

At the time of MJJ Productions in the late 80's - Michael Jackson was branding alot of his stuff with the MJJ logo and also used this for some of his song writing credits too.

The two credits are for the same person as far as I know and his father never wrote any of his music - especially on his solo albums. :thumbsup:

I heard that "Blame it on the Boogie" was written by a Sheffield bloke called Mick Jackson. Not sure if this ties in with your songs?

Rod Temperton from Cleethopes

page here (http://www.soulwalking.co.uk/Rod%20Temperton.html)

Quote from that page


"His songwriting skills were soon noticed by Quincy Jones who hired him to write songs for an album he was producing for Michael Jackson.

Rod ended up writing 'Rock With You', 'Baby Be Mine', 'The Lady In My Life' and the title track of Michael's 'Off The Wall' album in 1979, together with the title song 'Thriller' of his follow-up."

Bit off the subject, didn't MJ just buy a house in Bahrain ?

Originally posted by poppins
Bit off the subject, didn't MJ just buy a house in Bahrain ?

last i heard he was buying a house in germany

Originally posted by Ousetunes
This may sound a really, really stupid question. On the other hand, you might understand why I'm somewhat puzzled.

I have infront of me, the CD case to The Essential Michael Jackson, a 2 CD set containing...., well, that's all obvious really isn't it?

I like to read songwriting credits and this is where I am confused. Aware that Wacko, in the main, writes his own material, many songs are credited to Michael J. Jackson. Some are credited to Michael Jackson. Am I to presume that the two credits are the one and the same person?

Y'see, what's crossing my mind is that Michael Jackson was performing whilst still in his diaper and it's fair to assume he was a little too young to write his own stuff. Didn't his father write songs? Thus, what is his father's name?

The thing I'm getting at, is: Is the real songwriter Jacko's father, and 'Michael Jackson' (no middle J) wrote just the odd song.

That way, Michael (J) Jackson wrote most of the songs and we're left to assume that that means the singer/performer Jacko, without questioning any further.

I apologise for how messy this all sounds. I've never seen Michael play an instrument and find it incredible that a non-muso can write so many top choons.


its hardly the essential michael jackson when the last track on the album was from one of his worst selling albums , from what ive been told theres a few hits missing . maybe it should have been a triple

Originally posted by panda79
its hardly the essential michael jackson when the last track on the album was from one of his worst selling albums

Why does that stop it being essential ??... surely any songs from any album add to it BEING essential ?

His last album Invincible sold 2 million in the USA alone - 8 million worldwide. . . . I wouldn't exactly say thats a poor sales record. :|

Originally posted by Lestat
Why does that stop it being essential ??... surely any songs from any album add to it BEING essential ?

His last album Invincible sold 2 million in the USA alone - 8 million worldwide. . . . I wouldn't exactly say thats a poor sales record. :|

but if you compare it to the sales of the previous ones it was a disaster

and are you sure it actully sold 8 million worldwide ?

Originally posted by panda79
but if you compare it to the sales of the previous ones it was a disaster

and are you sure it actully sold 8 million worldwide ?

Yea but thats the kind of standards he set !!

As for the sales question - it's on Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson


It p*sses on the sales of other artists - except his own - how good is that!

Originally posted by panda79
but if you compare it to the sales of the previous ones it was a disaster

and are you sure it actully sold 8 million worldwide ?

just checked and the sales where 10 million .

we where both wrong:o

talking of the essential album it only sold 8 thousand in the first week in america

http://independentsources.com/2005/07/29/whos-bigger-michael-jackson-or-carly-simon

Originally posted by panda79
just checked and the sales where 10 million .

we where both wrong:o

Panda, it's actually a pretty good album if you listen to it. The first 3 tracks are amazing dance tracks that should be played at clubs all over the place! - there's 'You rock my world' which is a class hit.

'Cry' and the cool Santana riff on 'Whatever happens'.

All in all, it's a great album, but because of the fight with Sony, he was only ever allowed to release the 'You rock my world' song as a single.

Originally posted by Lestat
Panda, it's actually a pretty good album if you listen to it. The first 3 tracks are amazing dance tracks that should be played at clubs all over the place! - there's 'You rock my world' which is a class hit.

'Cry' and the cool Santana riff on 'Whatever happens'.

All in all, it's a great album, but because of the fight with Sony, he was only ever allowed to release the 'You rock my world' song as a single.

i have heard it just not my cup of tea to be honest ill prob get the essential album and for any bargain hunters its 11.99 in music zone in rotherham

Originally posted by panda79
i have heard it just not my cup of tea to be honest ill prob get the essential album and for any bargain hunters its 11.99 in music zone in rotherham

I know that you don't like MJ Panda, and we've had plenty of heated discussions about him and his music - but since you said you'd be buying the essential collection, I'd be curious to know what your favourite Michael Jackson song is . . . . .

Originally posted by Lestat
I know that you don't like MJ Panda, and we've had plenty of heated discussions about him and his music - but since you said you'd be buying the essential collection, I'd be curious to know what your favourite Michael Jackson song is . . . . .

ive never said i dont like him i just dont buy into this hero worship thing thats all , i just like some of his music . best track id say, wanna be starting something or dirty diana

Originally posted by panda79
best track id say, wanna be starting something or dirty diana

Dirty Diana! :thumbsup: Have you heard the song called 'Give in to me' ?. . . it's abit like it and the guitar is by Slash - of guns & roses fame, it's a quality rock tune. :headbang: :headbang:

Originally posted by Lestat
Dirty Diana! :thumbsup: Have you heard the song called 'Give in to me' ?. . . it's abit like it and the guitar is by Slash - of guns & roses fame.

i like that one but its not as good as beat it with eddie van halen on axe:thumbsup:

Originally posted by panda79
i like that one but its not as good as beat it with eddie van halen on axe:thumbsup:

Now you're talkin!! :clap: