rumours going round that if we dont get the desired result on monday at barnsley then it might be blackwells last stand.
my question is, if he goes or even gets the sack after monday night, then what experienced, quality managers are there out of work at the moment that would come to utd with our wage limits etc ?

rumours going round that if we dont get the desired result on monday at barnsley then it might be blackwells last stand.
my question is, if he goes or even gets the sack after monday night, then what experienced, quality managers are there out of work at the moment that would come to utd with our wage limits etc ?

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ…….. :roll: I suppose this should be merged but is it worth it.

rumours going round that if we dont get the desired result on monday at barnsley then it might be blackwells last stand.
my question is, if he goes or even gets the sack after monday night, then what experienced, quality managers are there out of work at the moment that would come to utd with our wage limits etc ?

if we lose against barnsley blackwell is going-to ingoldmells in an 8 berth for a week to recharge his batteries, a good session in the anchor then off to bells amusements on the 2p waterfalls will work wonders for morale.

seriously though, blackwell aint going anywhere just yet, even if he does who's gonna take over? brown, coppel, speed, just depends on mr mcabes real ambitions for sheff utd.

rumours going round that if we dont get the desired result on monday at barnsley then it might be blackwells last stand.
my question is, if he goes or even gets the sack after monday night, then what experienced, quality managers are there out of work at the moment that would come to utd with our wage limits etc ?

howard wilkinson would be my choice. if he could be sweet talked into leaving his cushy number with the f.a

Oh, how the self appointed mighty have fallen, I seem to recall, "Our chairman is a multi millionaire", "We are a Premiership team in waiting". You are now counting down the days of blackclock's demise, go on, tell us about your hotel, and how it will save you.

We know where we are, perhaps instead of the customery inane chants about Utd's percieved superiority, you lot ought to take stock and realise that you are in the exactly same mix as us. :hihi:

howard wilkinson would be my choice. if he could be sweet talked into leaving his cushy number with the f.a

Why would we want long ball wilko!

Why would we want long ball wilko!

Because he falls into your current style of play, infact he has a far better record of playing crap football than Blackclock.

john sheridan? :hihi:

Because he falls into your current style of play, infact he has a far better record of playing crap football than Blackclock.

or brian laws and his defeat by QPR :)

blackwells not done yet he will probly pull at win out at dingle land .....rather have copell any day

Why would we want long ball wilko!

I agree i'd rather boil my own head than watch a game with that miserable sod in-charge, if people are going to mention crazy candidates for a job thats not even on offer i'll go for keith edwards, at least we'd se some attacking football.

or brian laws and his defeat by QPR :)

No argument, we are crap, but how long will it take for you lot to realise that you are no different. If you manage to beat the dingles, will it make you promotion contenders?

Sheffield football is in freefall, we are the 4th/5th largest city in England, and we can't even field one Premiership side. I hate the way that both clubs are percieved, I can never forget a mouthy Southerner once telling me that Sheffield was only a small town in Lancashire.

Perhaps we should stop competing with each other, and start to kick arse nationwide.

I can never forget a mouthy Southerner once telling me that Sheffield was only a small town in Lancashire.

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Not really surprising as most southerners wouldn’t have a clue where Sheffield is.

Oh, how the self appointed mighty have fallen, I seem to recall, "Our chairman is a multi millionaire", "We are a Premiership team in waiting". You are now counting down the days of blackclock's demise, go on, tell us about your hotel, and how it will save you.

We know where we are, perhaps instead of the customery inane chants about Utd's percieved superiority, you lot ought to take stock and realise that you are in the exactly same mix as us. :hihi:

You know where you are do you? Good for you crooksey, didn't your manager state on SSN at the start of the season that the play-offs were his target, many Wednesday fans agreed.

Our chairman is a multi-millionaire, he has said many times before he wants United to be self sufficient, the hotel you made a jibe about is helping us do this. I never believe we have a god given right to be in the Premier League, I can see how others get used to the high expectations, we been there or there abouts for the last 6 years.

I like to stay positive. I honestly believe both United & Wednesday will climb up the table eventually. Hope not hate crooksey :)

If things havent improved by xmass balckwell has to go simple as that.

It hardly matters who manages the club if the board don't give him any money for players and sell off the better players at the first opportunity. A club with ambitions will find good players to replace the injured ones but old scrooge McCabe is more interested in building office blocks than football teams. He is looking at a possible windfall with the world cup so he will expand the ground to accomodate more fans but who will fill the seats before then is going to be a problem for a league 1 team.

You know where you are do you? Good for you crooksey, didn't your manager state on SSN at the start of the season that the play-offs were his target, many Wednesday fans agreed.

Our chairman is a multi-millionaire, he has said many times before he wants United to be self sufficient, the hotel you made a jibe about is helping us do this. I never believe we have a god given right to be in the Premier League, I can see how others get used to the high expectations, we been there or there abouts for the last 6 years.

I like to stay positive. I honestly believe both United & Wednesday will climb up the table eventually. Hope not hate crooksey :)

No hate here my friend, just a realism that are both supporters of no hopers. What we both need is a manager that throws the history book away and reminds us that we are cowering in the shadow of the likes of Wigan. :mad:

No hate here my friend, just a realism that are both supporters of no hopers. What we both need is a manager that throws the history book away and reminds us that we are cowering in the shadow of the likes of Wigan. :mad:

You speak for yourself with the no hopers bit. The Blades are much more likely to get out of the bad run that we are in than you lot. Unless of course it makes you feel a little better to include us as well. All Sheffield arent we....? no thanks

You speak for yourself with the no hopers bit. The Blades are much more likely to get out of the bad run that we are in than you lot. Unless of course it makes you feel a little better to include us as well. All Sheffield arent we....? no thanks

Aren't you below Wednesday in the table?

You speak for yourself with the no hopers bit. The Blades are much more likely to get out of the bad run that we are in than you lot. Unless of course it makes you feel a little better to include us as well. All Sheffield arent we....? no thanks

Cloud cuckoo land must be a very comforting place to hide in, the blades have had 3 play off finals and a promotion to the Premiership, blowing all of them.

However, I agree that Utd have a better chance of mid table mediocrity than us, if that's your ambition, I wish you well with it.

Cloud cuckoo land must be a very comforting place to hide in, the blades have had 3 play off finals and a promotion to the Premiership, blowing all of them.

However, I agree that Utd have a better chance of mid table mediocrity than us, if that's your ambition, I wish you well with it.

Correct me if I am wrong but where exactly in my post did I mention mid table mediocrity? No I though not. We did indeed experience the premiership, play off finals etc. Better to have loved and lost than to have never loved at all. I reckon those cuckoos are nesting more in S6.

I reckon those cuckoos are nesting more in S6.


They might as well, seeing as so many owls have flown the S6 nest looking at yesterdays crowd.

Correct me if I am wrong but where exactly in my post did I mention mid table mediocrity? No I though not. We did indeed experience the premiership, play off finals etc. Better to have loved and lost than to have never loved at all. I reckon those cuckoos are nesting more in S6.

Yes, I fall on my sword, with our 9 consecutive seasons in the top level of English football. We loved and we lost, but we loved for a bloody sight longer than you lot.

Now be a good lad, and go and feed your cuckoo. ;)

They might as well, seeing as so many owls have flown the S6 nest looking at yesterdays crowd.

Thats right alex, seems someone left the pen, i mean cage open. But lets not forget they did have nine consecutive seasons in the top flight of English football. So long ago I suppose the waning interest is understandable. Anyway back to the thread title before I get told off. No I dont think Blackwell should go Monday if we fail to get a result. Im not his biggest fan but we have to remind ourselves that were in November and not January. The road is long and all that. I think we have enough in the tank, when a few key players are fit again, to get us out of this bad run.

Cloud cuckoo land must be a very comforting place to hide in, the blades have had 3 play off finals and a promotion to the Premiership, blowing all of them.

However, I agree that Utd have a better chance of mid table mediocrity than us, if that's your ambition, I wish you well with it.

Could be seen as better than the relegation puckering of the ring piece the swine suffer at the end of every season. :|

Thats right alex, seems someone left the pen, i mean cage open. But lets not forget they did have nine consecutive seasons in the top flight of English football. So long ago I suppose the waning interest is understandable. Anyway back to the thread title before I get told off. No I dont think Blackwell should go Monday if we fail to get a result. Im not his biggest fan but we have to remind ourselves that were in November and not January. The road is long and all that. I think we have enough in the tank, when a few key players are fit again, to get us out of this bad run.

He put your season back together last year, I don't think that he's the sharpest tool in the box, but credit where credit is due.

He has Speed looking over his shoulder, but that's football these days. Utd are a possibility for a top six position, but I also as think that they will look at this season as a respite/rebuild opportunity.

I'm half watching the Hull v Stoke game at the moment, and see Utd as being similar to both clubs. We are not even in the frame, but daft as it sounds, we could end up being higher placed than you lot at the final countdown.

I think we need to hang on in there for just a bit longer and if no better after a few weeks (once more players come back from injury) then I think a decision needs to be made. Don't get me wrong I am a Blackwell supporter. But we can't keep on losing games like we are. I feel if we lose to Barnsley then he maybe in trouble.

I felt as though we played well against Newcastle but we are just not having the luck right now. It will turn its way round eventually (pleeeeeeeeeeaseeeeeeee god I hope so)

But someone has to take responsibility and I'm affraid that ultimately is Blackwell (although I do believe some players have let him down by deciding not to play the game they get payed for)

I think we need to hang on in there for just a bit longer and if no better after a few weeks (once more players come back from injury) then I think a decision needs to be made. Don't get me wrong I am a Blackwell supporter. But we can't keep on losing games like we are. I feel if we lose to Barnsley then he maybe in trouble.

I felt as though we played well against Newcastle but we are just not having the luck right now. It will turn its way round eventually (pleeeeeeeeeeaseeeeeeee god I hope so)

But someone has to take responsibility and I'm affraid that ultimately is Blackwell (although I do believe some players have let him down by deciding not to play the game they get payed for)

Trevor Francis was sacked after we came 13th in the Premiership. Chairmen have a habit of taking the credit when things go right, and sacking the manager when they go wrong. How we would love a 13th place Premiership finish Mr Richards? :confused:

Could be seen as better than the relegation puckering of the ring piece the swine suffer at the end of every season. :|

12th place last season, was hardly 'relegation puckering of the ring piece'.

Anyway, we regularly get good end of season entertainment from you lot, what with bottling three play off finals and losing a match against Wigan that would have kept Utd in the Premiership.

The only person who will sack him is mccabe and thee is no way that he will let him go this side of xmas- no chance whatsoever.

12th place last season, was hardly 'relegation puckering of the ring piece'.

Anyway, we regularly get good end of season entertainment from you lot, what with bottling three play off finals and losing a match against Wigan that would have kept Utd in the Premiership.

Notice the word 'every' my feeble minded chum. :hihi:

Notice the word 'every' my feeble minded chum. :hihi:

Chucking the insults out are you, brain box? You have immediately lost your argument, by acting like a child. And when it comes down to being 'feeble minded' have a look in the mirror pal, yes you will spot one.

Please, pretty please, if you want a battle of wits, at least bring some ammunition to the table, alex, BB, CB, Earwiggo and arm chair dog, you are not even in the frame. If you need any of the bigger words translating, don't be afraid to ask. :D

12th place last season, was hardly 'relegation puckering of the ring piece'.

Anyway, we regularly get good end of season entertainment from you lot, what with bottling three play off finals and losing a match against Wigan that would have kept Utd in the Premiership.

Wouldn't it be novel for your own team to give you end of season entertainment instead of calling it a day after the second derby?
Maybe the timing of this years derby at hillsborough is a god send for the wednesday fans who called it a day not long into the new year last season.

Trevor Francis was sacked after we came 13th in the Premiership. Chairmen have a habit of taking the credit when things go right, and sacking the manager when they go wrong. How we would love a 13th place Premiership finish Mr Richards? :confused:

I think the amount of managers you sacked and went through before Laws contributed vastly to your demise.

Chucking the insults out are you, brain box? You have immediately lost your argument, by acting like a child. And when it comes down to being 'feeble minded' have a look in the mirror pal, yes you will spot one.

Please, pretty please, if you want a battle of wits, at least bring some ammunition to the table, alex, BB, CB, Earwiggo and arm chair dog, you are not even in the frame. If you need any of the bigger words translating, don't be afraid to ask. :D

How can applying an attribute which so aptly fits your good self be considered an insult. More a statement of fact, wouldn't you agree.

I would also not consider myself to be your 'pal' either as I clearly have never met you and have not entered into any relationship that could be socially construed as friendship vis-a-vie becoming your 'pal'.

As for your very kind offer of translation services, I thank you. If ever I need an alternative word for inadequate I'm sure you have an abundance to hand. ;)

How can applying an attribute which so aptly fits your good self be considered an insult. More a statement of fact, wouldn't you agree.

I would also not consider myself to be your 'pal' either as I clearly have never met you and have not entered into any relationship that could be socially construed as friendship vis-a-vie becoming your 'pal'.

As for your very kind offer of translation services, I thank you. If ever I need an alternative word for inadequate I'm sure you have an abundance to hand. ;)

Oh, opinion, opinion, opinion, so if it makes you feel better, I am a remidial waste of space, who is unable to match your far superior repertoire of classic quotes. I bow to your self appointed superiority, but if you still have problems with the big words, don't hesitate to ask. :hihi:

Oh, opinion, opinion, opinion, so if it makes you feel better, I am a remidial waste of space, who is unable to match your far superior repertoire of classic quotes. I bow to your self appointed superiority, but if you still have problems with the big words, don't hesitate to ask. :hihi:

It never fails, does it. Morons who try to be clever should run their contributions through a spell checker before hitting the 'submit' button.

:hihi::hihi::hihi::hihi::hihi::hihi::hihi:

Oh, opinion, opinion, opinion, so if it makes you feel better, I am a remidial waste of space, who is unable to match your far superior repertoire of classic quotes. I bow to your self appointed superiority, but if you still have problems with the big words, don't hesitate to ask. :hihi:


Yes you are a 'remidial' waste of space. :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

Aren't you below Wednesday in the table?

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No.................................

Patience is a virtue, or something :D

I think the amount of managers you sacked and went through before Laws contributed vastly to your demise.

I wrote the names down once, just to remind me, I knew that I had made a mistake, and then realised that I had omitted Paul Jewell, what a bloody list. I still think that Trevor Francis had more in his locker than the hapless Dave Richards thought that he had.

However, we are where we are, both of us infact, not easy is it flower?

I wrote the names down once, just to remind me, I knew that I had made a mistake, and then realised that I had omitted Paul Jewell, what a bloody list. I still think that Trevor Francis had more in his locker than the hapless Dave Richards thought that he had.

However, we are where we are, both of us infact, not easy is it flower?

We have one real sticky patch since the demise of Robson. Since Robson the Blades have seriously contested for promotion. Now it seems, if you listen to the wendys, we are in the same hole as them. The difference is, that injuries permitting, we are capable of getting out of it. Must be a lonely place that hole, for wendy to be speaking so collectively :hihi:

We have one real sticky patch since the demise of Robson. Since Robson the Blades have seriously contested for promotion. Now it seems, if you listen to the wendys, we are in the same hole as them. The difference is, that injuries permitting, we are capable of getting out of it. Must be a lonely place that hole, for wendy to be speaking so collectively :hihi:

Denial isn't a river running through Egypt, Utd are struggling, playing the high and long ball, have one fit keeper and as soon as one player comes back from injury another one gets injured.

They are having bad luck, but they are also playing badly, and as for 'that hole', SUFC are in it with us.

Yes , both clubs are in the botom half of the division, both yea on a downward spiral, of the two United with the return of the many injured players have a chance of turning things around, i for one hope the Barnsley match was where we drew a line in the sand and now return to form, with a reduced injury list and a few positive results the signs are good.

The Owls , have no squad to fall back on, are carrying a few light wieghts Jeffers and co.And with limited funds available and maybe some forced sales in January can anyone see a positive turnaround this season?

Denial isn't a river running through Egypt, Utd are struggling, playing the high and long ball, have one fit keeper and as soon as one player comes back from injury another one gets injured.

They are having bad luck, but they are also playing badly, and as for 'that hole', SUFC are in it with us.

Thanks for the geography lesson ;).... and Don is the river that runs through your ground by the way:hihi: I have said we are having a tough time at the moment but I still feel we are more able to get out of it than SWFC.

Yes , both clubs are in the botom half of the division, both yea on a downward spiral, of the two United with the return of the many injured players have a chance of turning things around, i for one hope the Barnsley match was where we drew a line in the sand and now return to form, with a reduced injury list and a few positive results the signs are good.

The Owls , have no squad to fall back on, are carrying a few light wieghts Jeffers and co.And with limited funds available and maybe some forced sales in January can anyone see a positive turnaround this season?

When your injured players come back, what style of football will KB demand of them? I start to wonder if Ken Bates crack aimed at Chris Turner, relating to goal keepers not making good managers, had a ring of truth to it.

When your injured players come back, what style of football will KB demand of them? I start to wonder if Ken Bates crack aimed at Chris Turner, relating to goal keepers not making good managers, had a ring of truth to it.

My view is the style of football is not an issue at present its a matter of getting the points almost at any cost, as much as we would prefer skillful football we have to be realistic, and over the next 10 weeks need to accumalate the points to push on in the new year. A mid table position at the lane this season is not acceptable.

Wednesday the same, if the downturn continues in to the new year a relegation battle, 15,000 gates and doom and gloom would reign.

When your injured players come back, what style of football will KB demand of them? I start to wonder if Ken Bates crack aimed at Chris Turner, relating to goal keepers not making good managers, had a ring of truth to it.

Well, we're certainly finding out regarding Blackwell.

But more to the point: What is Andy Leaning, in my view the worst 'keeper ever to grace the goalposts (or in his case, fetch the ball out of the net) doing behind the scenes with Blackwell?

Get rid of him and Blackwell and install Speedo, pronto.

My view is the style of football is not an issue at present its a matter of getting the points almost at any cost, as much as we would prefer skillful football we have to be realistic, and over the next 10 weeks need to accumalate the points to push on in the new year. A mid table position at the lane this season is not acceptable.

Wednesday the same, if the downturn continues in to the new year a relegation battle, 15,000 gates and doom and gloom would reign.

That would mean a good percentage of the 13,200 season ticket holders not turning up, unless you further predict average opposition support of 1,800, and no pay on the day home support.

IMHO we have just about bottomed attendance wise, and what with some big clubs bringing 7000 to Hillsborough, we should end up with well over 20,000 average gates. SUFC have indeed given me both doom and gloom, but fortunately never at the same time.

That would mean a good percentage of the 13,200 season ticket holders not turning up, unless you further predict average opposition support of 1,800, and no pay on the day home support.

IMHO we have just about bottomed attendance wise, and what with some big clubs bringing 7000 to Hillsborough, we should end up with well over 20,000 average gates. SUFC have indeed given me both doom and gloom, but fortunately never at the same time.

:)Maybe i was a little harsh.:D But you do not address the word relegation !:cool:;)

:)Maybe i was a little harsh.:D But you do not address the word relegation !:cool:;)

I won't go that low, whoops what have I said? :P

Battled through that little lot very well Crookesey! :thumbsup:

Which Monday is the thread now referring to?

If the referee had done the right thing on Monday and not given the 'Evans penalty' as it wasn't one, then Blackwell may well have gone Tuesday morning. Not McCabe's decision, the fans would have made the decision for him.
Size 9's, 10's, 11's and 12's everywhere.

rumours going round that if we dont get the desired result on monday at barnsley then it might be blackwells last stand.
My question is, if he goes or even gets the sack after monday night, then what experienced, quality managers are there out of work at the moment that would come to utd with our wage limits etc ?

to quote my origional post which was posted previous to the barnsley away game, now i pose this question along the same lines- if we dont beat peterborough, then what ??? Surely we will see a repeat of the car park protest.
Blackwell defended his policy of quality and not quantity when building his team but now he wont be the big man and accept it was wrong, i think he should have got a bit more in both areas, probably 1 or 2 more quality players but also a sprinkling of competent and competetive squad players then we might not be dropping down the table like a lead balloon !!!!!