View Full Version : Speed bumps, is there any legislation?


Hels
03-08-2005, 01:23
We've got a speed bump at the entrance to our road, it's flat as you approach it and then goes down with a 'bump' pardon the pun!

Anyway, there are no signs at all to indicate the road has speed bumps or any speed calming measure on it. The bump has nothing painted on it to indicate it is there. The other speed bumps on the estate have those triangular markings on them.

There's no end of people catch the bottom of their car or their exhaust on this one particular bump because they either don't realise it is there, or they don't realise how high it is on one side.

When turning into the road, those people who know about the bump slow down prior to turning which is a bit of a danger from traffic behind them as they have to turn slower than they would when entering a normal junction.

The council have said there's no need for signs as most people using the estate will know the bump is there (I disagree). But surely there must be some sort of 'guidance' on the length or height of speed bumps? And surely, they should be marked out to indicate that they are there?

*_ash_*
03-08-2005, 01:29
hello again ive just answered your taxi question..

There are height restrictions but i cant recall them..

My opinion of speed bumps, is, and ive been slated before for this, but i stand by it...
is that, if the speed limit on the road is 30, you should be able to drive over a bump at 30 safely, and not damage your car. If they want you to drive over it at 20, because of kids/ dangerous section etc, then lower the speed limit to 20 for that part of the road.

check my topic council and roads, ive just posted it...ash

Hels
03-08-2005, 01:37
Hiya, i've just posted on your thread too!

You'll see from my post that the council have said 'no' to reducing the speed limit to 20. But if you go over the speed bump at the entrance to my road you are guaranteed to hit your exhaust or the bottom of your car (unless you're many of the 4x4 brigade that we've got here)!

It's the strangest 'bump' i've ever seen though because it's only high at one side, and with no markings on it at all :loopy:

*_ash_*
03-08-2005, 01:40
nothing suprises me, when it comes to road hazards, i spend more time looking for new kerbs/bumps etc than i do watching the road, and parked cars where someone could be stepping out of, nether edge is the worst place in sheff for it.

probedb
03-08-2005, 08:20
I was wondering what the maximum height for these was. My car is lowered and has a kit on so many people might say it's my own fault, however I know for a fact there are the Ferarris of this world and even cars like old MX5s that are lower.

Anyhow, went round to a friends in Parsons Cross the other day and one speed bump completely scraped the bumper underneath meaning it has to be higher than 4/5" which is how low my bumper is. Now don't get me wrong, speed bumps are there for a reason but why do they have to be so high?

Captain_Scarlet
03-08-2005, 08:26
The back of Meersbrook is dotted with 'em, a reit pain in my rear ! I can't drive at 30 over them, why ? I respect speed limits but I have to slow down to about 15mph to drive over them.

Tip though, the red squares they've put on Carrfield Rd & Upper Albert Rd, you can drive at 30mph over them if you stay in the middle of the road when you're at them (not actually staying in the middle that would be quite stupid and dangerous).

willman
03-08-2005, 08:29
speed bumps are supposd to be 100mm (4inch) in old money.
in height.
technically you should be able to drive over the bumps at the speed limit without suffering damage to your vehicle.

the quality of the bump often affects the way your car reacts over them.
if it cause problems report it the council/highways every day until it is reviewed.

Greenback
03-08-2005, 08:43
Originally posted by Captain_Scarlet
The back of Meersbrook is dotted with 'em, a reit pain in my rear ! I can't drive at 30 over them, why ? I respect speed limits but I have to slow down to about 15mph to drive over them.


You mean the HUGE black ones, I presume? They're the largest speed bumps I think I've ever come across – if they're only four inches high I'm a Dutchman.

Steelcity
03-08-2005, 11:31
We're in Nether Edge and our road is supposed to be 20MPH - if you drive over our bumps/mountains at 20mph your car is screwed, period.

5mph is about as good as it gets - average journey from our road to a bumpless road involves around 6 or 7 of these huge bumps. I bought a new car in March and it's suspension is already shot (also blame the abundance of pot holes everywhere in Sheffield).

The worse 'bumps' are the ones they put at junctions - i.e. the raised up bricks that completely jolt your car to pieces, even at 1MPH...

I do completely see the need for speed bumps, but I do feel some of the ones in Nether Edge are far too excessive. No wonder everyone seems to be buying 4x4s.

MrH
03-08-2005, 11:36
Amazingly, all the speed bumps near me (on Bridge Street, by Riverside Exchange), were removed last week. Has that ever happened anywhere before?

Tony45
03-08-2005, 11:41
To quote Brian Potter... You're losing a fighting battle if you think the council will listen to you about speed bumps.

There was a taxi driver who took up this campaign a few years ago because he was suffering damage not only to his cab, but also to himself, with back pains due to the speed bumps that the council had installed.

There are national guidelines around the placement and height of speed bumps, but SCC just ignore them.

They're not meant to be placed close to road junctions for the exact common sense reasons that you state... hence the problem... SCC have no common sense.

probedb
03-08-2005, 11:42
Originally posted by MrHelicopter
Amazingly, all the speed bumps near me (on Bridge Street, by Riverside Exchange), were removed last week. Has that ever happened anywhere before?

That's good cos I'm moving there soon :)

Hels
03-08-2005, 11:54
Hmm, so they're not supposed to have speed bumps at a junction :suspect:

Hels quickly drafts yet another e-mail to SCC :hihi:

I intend to pester them until they do something just to get rid of me :heyhey:

foo_fighter
03-08-2005, 12:20
Originally posted by Tony45
...There are national guidelines around the placement and height of speed bumps, but SCC just ignore them.

They're not meant to be placed close to road junctions for the exact common sense reasons that you state... hence the problem... SCC have no common sense.
Not according to the Department for Transport.

Downloadable PDF here:
http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_roads/documents/page/dft_roads_504782-05.hcsp

It says there are no such restrictions to humps being near junctions.

:suspect:

Norton
03-08-2005, 12:56
Originally posted by Greenback
You mean the HUGE black ones, I presume? They're the largest speed bumps I think I've ever come across – if they're only four inches high I'm a Dutchman.


The top two on Upper Albert Road are absolutely stupid!! Hit them at 30 mph and you'd write your car off!

There's a complaint logged with the council about that stretch of road already ;) When they were relaying the bottom of that road the "raised manholes" caused considerable damage to the underside of my partner's car. As we went back to take pictures, another woman was inspecting the damage on her car where she'd done the same. It was just luck whether they hit or not.

Interesting the note it's now the best bit of road in Sheffield :)

Captain_Scarlet
03-08-2005, 13:09
Originally posted by Tony45
They're not meant to be placed close to road junctions for the exact common sense reasons that you state... hence the problem... SCC have no common sense. Well, Greenback will agree, in Meersbrook (comes up often these days doesn't it ?) them speed bumps are ON junctions, to name a few:

- Carrfield Road & Albert Road.
- Upper Albert Road, Northcoat Avenue & Rushdale Road.
- Bishops Court Road & Lees Hall Avenue.
- Upper Albert Road, Lees Hall Avenue & Norton Lees Lane with bus stop in't middle.
- Carrfield Road & Gerrard Street.

Norton, oh yes, them road works that finished last week, sweet weren't they, NOT !

Some crazy stuff fosho

cgksheff
03-08-2005, 13:33
I'm not sure about 'Guidelines' but the legislation can be read here:

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/cgi-bin/htm_hl.pl?DB=opsi&STEMMER=en&WORDS=highways+road+humps+regulations+1999+1025+&COLOUR=Red&STYLE=s&URL=http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1999/19991025.htm#muscat_highlighter_first_match

It confirms foo_fighters post that there are no restrictions on hump placement near corners/junctions.
There are only restrictions with regard to placement near zebra, pelican and puffin crossings, rail tracks, tram tracks and bridges.

Maximum height of hump = 100mm (10cm or roughly 4 inches)

Norton
03-08-2005, 13:42
Originally posted by cgksheff
Maximum height of hump = 100mm (10cm or roughly 4 inches)

I'll meet anyone with the relevent measuring tools at the top of Upper Albert tonight :) They must be three times the maximum height! (The speed bumps, not the people ;) )

Steelcity
03-08-2005, 14:00
Originally posted by cgksheff

Maximum height of hump = 100mm (10cm or roughly 4 inches) [/B]

Not sure how that can be measured accurately on Sheffield Roads - it assumes that the rest of the surrounding road is perfectly level to take a correct ground level reading!

One of the problems in Nether Edge is that the speed bumps are surrounded by dirty great big pot holes and raised manhole covers (e.g. top end of Steade Road).

willman
03-08-2005, 14:06
as i said in an earlier post anything above 4 inch need reporting to the correct department. could have been a civils company that did the work "incorrectly".

Cyclone
03-08-2005, 14:11
there's also a maximum vertical drop height of something like 15mm isn't there?

cgksheff
03-08-2005, 14:56
Originally posted by Cyclone
there's also a maximum vertical drop height of something like 15mm isn't there?

It is actually as low as 6mm!

Tony45
03-08-2005, 15:21
Originally posted by foo_fighter
Not according to the Department for Transport.

Downloadable PDF here:
http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_roads/documents/page/dft_roads_504782-05.hcsp

It says there are no such restrictions to humps being near junctions.

:suspect:

"Junctions
In England and Wales, providing the necessary speed reducing features are present, there are no
restrictions as to the proximity of road humps to junctions. (For Scotland, see panel below.) However,
to help avoid any stability problems arising for two wheeled vehicles, the hump could be set back
from the junction by 5m-8m, depending on site conditions. Setting back the hump from the junction
can also discourage pedestrians from crossing the side road too near to main road traffic and so
minimise conflicts between them and turning traffic."

Try reading after "However" this is the common sense guideline.

foo_fighter
04-08-2005, 07:59
Originally posted by Tony45
...Try reading after "However" this is the common sense guideline.

Yes Tony45, and would you please note the use of the word could, not should, or must...

...a bit like you could buy a red car, but how many red cars are actually on the roads?

See below:
"Junctions
In England and Wales, providing the necessary speed reducing features are present, there are no
restrictions as to the proximity of road humps to junctions. (For Scotland, see panel below.) However,
to help avoid any stability problems arising for two wheeled vehicles, the hump could be set back
from the junction by 5m-8m, depending on site conditions. Setting back the hump from the junction
can also discourage pedestrians from crossing the side road too near to main road traffic and so
minimise conflicts between them and turning traffic."

Also, if you read the actual legislation that cgksheff posted (above) you'll see there's no mention of this issue.

You stated that
Originally posted by Tony45
...They're not meant to be placed close to road junctions ...
which is just plain wrong, the guidelines clearly state that their use at junctions is not prohibited.