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Well, it's the end of an era.. Tuesday 2nd of August at 8 PM on Sky One, the final EVER (barring repeats) episode of Star Trek Enterprise..

Anyone planning to watch? Will anyone be crying when Russell Watson sings the closing credits theme tune for the last time?! I won't be, as much as I like Star Trek, I just ain't THAT sad... :lol:

Seriously though, Enterprise has been good, it'll be sad to see if finish :(

I've enjoyed Enterprise more than I expected. It had it's lame moments in Series 2, but by God it got better!

I think it's been killed off early - there's a lot of territory they could have gone with, and I'm genuinely sad to see it go.

The recent 'Dark Mirror' stuff was excellent. There have been some great ideas - Temporal Cold War, the Xindi arc - and I would have loved to have seen the Temporal Cold War explored more.

It would also have been (just) possible to bring the Romulans in as in one of the TOS episodes there was a reference to a previous attempt by the Romulans to attack the Federation that failed miserably.....

It would have been cool to see a bit of tidying up to leade more smoothly in to TOS as well - though the Klingon 'smooth head' variant was quite fun!!

Joe

Seen the finale...it sucked big time! It was more a filler episode of Next Generation, than a closing episode of a new series. Don't expect it to go out with a bang, this was more of a whimper!

1. telephone unplugged
2. answer machine turned to very quiet
3. doors locked
4. max occupied with large rawhide bone
5. tube of pringles
6. bottle of diet coke
7. made an extra trip to the bathroom
I'm remarkably peeved that it is the last in the series because it could of had any number of interesting twists and turns in it's story lines but I suppose the American idea of a good show is some mindless drivel with it's canned or false laughter nowadays like Seinfield so I'm not really surprised.

Yes, from what I've heard I'm not expecting great things.

It's a shame - they should have ended the series with a bit of a bang, and a 'hail the returning heroes' sort of thing...whilst leaving the door ever so slightly ajar for them to return to it when they realise they've ballsed up by canning it.

Joe :)

Hopefully Enterprise won't be the last ever Trek, they could do a series based on the Star Trek - New Frontier books which feature a ship called the Excalibur under the command of a bloke called Mackenzie Calhoun.

Here (http://www.geocities.com/lilladn/Main.html)'s some info regarding New Frontier for people who may not have seen or read the books.

Better than I hoped it would be!

Although 'Ten Dinners' Riker is now more of a 'Twenty Dinners and a wafer thin mint' version... :)

What was disturbing was that I identified the 'framing' Next Generation episode fairly early on as 'The Pegasus'. I'm VERY sad. The framing motif worked quite nicely, though.

I enjoyed it, and I'll miss 'Enterprise'.

Joe

I have to say I was rather dissapointed after the past 4 episodes which have been rather good I found the final one fell a bit flat :(

That finale was actually written during season 3 when they didn't know they would get a 4th season. hence it not feeling the same as the rest of the final season did (Manny Coto took control on season 4).

A huge letdown.

With regards to the future of trek.....

From IGN Filmforce...

"We've known for some time that Rick Berman and Paramount were thinking about making a prequel Star Trek film, set in a time before Kirk's command. But just how long before? It has been previous stated by the film's writer, Erik Jendresen, that the next installment would predate the original series era by about 80 years.

However, according to the premier of the territory of South Australia, Star Trek XI will be set in the very near future – 2010 – and deal with nuclear war. A time travel plot will also be involved, with someone from the future coming to save humanity from itself. The premiere, who opened Australia's Terra Nova convention in April, supposedly heard the news from Paramount executives during a dinner he had with them. Paramount Pictures might also be considering Australia as a filming location for the eleventh Trek movie.

The report is in the latest edition of Star Trek Magazine (and brought to our attention by Trekweb), which suggests that any popular character or characters from any existing Trek series are candidates for travelling back in time to 2010. A recent AICN piece on Brent Spiner (TNG's Lt. Cmdr. Data) suggests that Data is a possibility for filling this role. How yet another time-travel tale could figure into existing Star Trek canon is yet to be seen.

At this point, the nuclear war/time-travel plot is at best a rumor; chances are good that someone has been misquoted or misunderstood. Hopefully, any future Star Trek endeavour will put an emphasis on good writing and directing – something many, if not most, fans agree has been lacking in Enterprise and the recent movies."

Originally posted by JoeP
Better than I hoped it would be!

Although 'Ten Dinners' Riker is now more of a 'Twenty Dinners and a wafer thin mint' version... :)


Personally, I found it quite disturbing that Jonathan Frakes appeared to be doing some sort of weird impression of William Shatner as Captain Kirk :suspect:

Did anyone else notice this rather scary phenomenon, or am I losing the plot? :D Or perhaps I was just distraught with grief at the thought of Trip's demise?

StarSparkle :)

...and for those of you who don't have SKY and are awaitng it coming to Channel 4...that, ladies and gentlemen, was a spoiler!

I felt the series never had a proper run and was cut short in a pathetically poor way. I'm hoping that the public outcry might grow to such an extent that the 'people in charge' [brainless clots that they are] will have a change of heart and let Enterprise run for far longer.

It wont. The public outcry was more of a whimper in the US, and the viewing figures didn't get any better.

The people in charge were not responsible for the cancellation....the fans who refused to tune in from season one onwards because "It was causing continuity problems with classic trek" (it didn't...that was part of the temporal cold war story) are the reason it failed. Simply put, Enterprise had really low viewing figures in the US, and without viewers, advertisers do not want to pay for ad slots. Without ad slots paid up, no money.

When the show was cancelled, most people had already given up on it anyway. Those that hadn't just shrugged and said "Whatever!" There will be more Star Trek, but Enterprise isn't part of the plans for the future.

Originally posted by WallBuilder
I felt the series never had a proper run and was cut short in a pathetically poor way. I'm hoping that the public outcry might grow to such an extent that the 'people in charge' [brainless clots that they are] will have a change of heart and let Enterprise run for far longer.

Maybe the DVD sales will prove the TV execs wrong like it did with Family Guy?

So is that it for ST TV series? Are they that commercially unviable that TV companies would rather show cheap reality TV programmes where the outlay is minimal?

The DVD sales of Enterprise so far have been decidedly average. It hasn't had the 'must buy' response that family Guy and Firefly had.

I expect that some time down the line Star Trek will return, after all it was cancelled before (after season 3 of TOS). The problem has been that the writing of the show, from Voyager onwards, has been sloppy (with the exception of Season 4 Enterprise which, under Coto's new eye picked the pace up). When put against shows like Battlestar Galactica, and even to a degree Stargate, it is found wanting. In fact, when it was shifted to Friday nights in the US it was, actually, against those shows.

At the end of the day, TV companies are in the business to make money. This means that as reality shows are popular, they will be commissioned. Star Trek had a good run, now, perhaps, they can foucs the efforts into making the next ST movie a damned good one (to make up for the disgrace that was Nemesis).