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rubydazzler 27-09-2009, 09:28 Reading this thread made me remember something the old men and women used to say when they were surprised (pleasantly) by something "wey, Ah'm capped/capt" Wonder if it came from "captivated" like we might have said "brill" or "fab"?
Another one of my mothers was if we had nowhere to sit.Stick your finger up your backside and sit on your elbow.
rubydazzler 27-09-2009, 16:21 Another one of my mothers was if we had nowhere to sit.Stick your finger up your backside and sit on your elbow.lol not exactly an old Sheffield saying though? It sounds a bit wude :)
If brains were gun powder tha wunt have enough to blow di cap off.....:hihi:
Plain Talker 27-09-2009, 17:45 If brains were gun powder tha wunt have enough to blow di cap off.....:hihi:
or "wunt have enough ter blow thi noo-ase"
Got a face like a penny kite.If you were looking miserable.
My dad would always sidy the table after we'd eaten.
ACE WASTE 28-09-2009, 06:39 When a baby was presented to my grandad he would stick his finger in its mouth and say "i cant feel any tutty pegs yet, no steak & chips for thee just yet young un"anybody else heard of tutty pegs?
rubydazzler 28-09-2009, 06:54 When a baby was presented to my grandad he would stick his finger in its mouth and say "i cant feel any tutty pegs yet, no steak & chips for thee just yet young un"anybody else heard of tutty pegs?Not tutty pegs, but toothy pegs, or toofy pegs or even peggies. Don't people say these things anymore? It's quite sad, they were all the things that defined baby/toddlerhood from childhood, and made it a special time. Dannies and poddies and bow-wows and pop-poes and going bye-byes and going ta-tas. I'm all nostalgic and dewy eyed now :)
As much use as a Chocolate fire guard or about as good as a two bob horse..
Yes I remember it as tutty pegs, and whatever happend to titty bottles?
My Grandma (Sorry couldn't call her that it had to be Nan Nan)used to say " Blumin Hummer" if something was going wrong & and " I'll rattle thi arse" if tha were being a Divie !!
OMG!! blummin' 'ummer!!!! my {late} dad used to say that, i have never heard anyone else say it!!! many thanks for bringing that smile to my face :)
i always confuse ppl with "snided" (full/busy/packed) many non-sheffielders have looked at me funny over the years for that one!
and tooshie pegs, toothy pegs, we still say that......
mrs grissom 28-09-2009, 11:20 OMG!! blummin' 'ummer!!!! my {late} dad used to say that, i have never heard anyone else say it!!! many thanks for bringing that smile to my face :)
i always confuse ppl with "snided" (full/busy/packed) many non-sheffielders have looked at me funny over the years for that one!
and tooshie pegs, toothy pegs, we still say that......
Yep. that was one of Mums too, especially at the seaside."Y shud ave seent beach it were snided" And also "sidey t'table luv" Ohh how I miss my lovely Mum and Dad .
mrs grissom 28-09-2009, 11:35 My Grandma , who passed away in 1964 aged 83) always thought people on the TV or radio could see or hear you too. If some one came on she didn't like she would say "I'll jus t go t end o't path till it's gone off" instead of turning it off so she wouldn't offend them! We still use it in our family if anything appalling comes on ( Simon Cowell and X factor I do mean you!)
The mention of 'tutty pegs' reminds me of a saying used by my old father in law. 'Tha' wants ma' peg'. It's a world away from 'tutty peg' territory, but a saying none the less.
Mind you he worked down the pit, and we all know what THEY were like.
shanes teeth 28-09-2009, 18:27 I thought it was "tussy pegs"
And what about "cloth ears"?
OwlsChick 28-09-2009, 18:38 I thought it was "tussy pegs"
And what about "cloth ears"?
I also remember it as tussy pegs..:hihi:
If you've got your front ones it's 'tutty'. If you ain't, it's 'tussy'.
I thought it was "tussy pegs"
And what about "cloth ears"?
LOL @ cloth ears :)
mrs grissom 28-09-2009, 19:37 The mention of 'tutty pegs' reminds me of a saying used by my old father in law. 'Tha' wants ma' peg'. It's a world away from 'tutty peg' territory, but a saying none the less.
Mind you he worked down the pit, and we all know what THEY were like.
Dont know what it means Texas but perhaps thats not a bad thing eh? :Dbut another one keeping to the "peg" theme was " Ahll peg thee a rug" said to you when you'd asked your Mum to do something for you that you ere too lazy to do yourself i.e most things whenn I was a teenager !:hihi:
Plain Talker 28-09-2009, 22:38 I thought it was "tussy pegs"
And what about "cloth ears"?
As in "Wesh thi raggy- / rag-ears out!" ?
hillsbro 29-09-2009, 05:48 When my mum had given me a good wash she would say "You're as clean as a new-scraped carrot"..:)
ACE WASTE 29-09-2009, 07:06 My nan & grandad were a comical pair, if i asked grandad if he knew a certain person he would say "coowerse i know him ees got curly teeth walks backards and spits alot" and when i asked my nan what was for tea she would always say "sh*t wi sugar on",i know it dosnt sound nice but even now it makes me laugh when i think about it.
hillsbro 29-09-2009, 08:12 ...when i asked my nan what was for tea she would always say "sh*t wi sugar on"..
My mum used to say this as well. We were so poor we were grateful for the sugar...:P
ACE WASTE 29-09-2009, 08:30 My dad always used to shout at my grandad to embarass him when he was in a public place like queing at the bar or at the co-op "fatha put di cap on there sackin old uns" dont know why cos he was as bald as a coot aswell.any one else heard this saying is it unique to sheffield?
Choirgirl 29-09-2009, 09:48 Poppypoppy talked about breadcakes - well when I first came to live down here in sunny Sussex I went to the local bakers and asked for a couple of breadcakes. Silence. The assistant looked at me as if I'd come from the moon and said "what kind of cake did you want"!!! So I asked again for breadcakes. She still didn't know what I was on about, so I looked around and pointed to "breadcakes". 2 of those said I. "Oh you mean baps" Not where I come from I told her. They sometimes call them rolls too. Rolls are the things you put sausages in for hot dogs. Where have these peole been!!
Poppypoppy talked about breadcakes - well when I first came to live down here in sunny Sussex I went to the local bakers and asked for a couple of breadcakes. Silence. The assistant looked at me as if I'd come from the moon and said "what kind of cake did you want"!!! So I asked again for breadcakes. She still didn't know what I was on about, so I looked around and pointed to "breadcakes". 2 of those said I. "Oh you mean baps" Not where I come from I told her. They sometimes call them rolls too. Rolls are the things you put sausages in for hot dogs. Where have these peole been!!
Hey, you've not got far to go from city center to get a right agument going about bread cakes luv.
another one is what some people call a fishcake...:rolleyes:
Choirgirl 29-09-2009, 10:15 I agree - fishcakes now adays are not we call fishcakes eh? These things wrapped in breadcrumbs are not fishcakes. Its the fish between two pieces of potato dipped in batter are the REAL fishcakes. One of my daughters in law who lives in Stafford is also complaining about fishcakes, like dripping its only when she goes to Sheffield from Stafford that she can get her fill of these and of course Hendersons' Relish. mmmmmm................
chrishall 29-09-2009, 10:29 Poppypoppy talked about breadcakes - well when I first came to live down here in sunny Sussex I went to the local bakers and asked for a couple of breadcakes. Silence. The assistant looked at me as if I'd come from the moon and said "what kind of cake did you want"!!! So I asked again for breadcakes. She still didn't know what I was on about, so I looked around and pointed to "breadcakes". 2 of those said I. "Oh you mean baps" Not where I come from I told her. They sometimes call them rolls too. Rolls are the things you put sausages in for hot dogs. Where have these peole been!!
Exactly the same thing happened to me in the 60s when I went to live in Poole in Dorset! They might have a different name for them in different parts of the country but I have never come across anything like a Sheffield breadcake, absolutely gorgeous, especially with a couple of rashers of bacon in 'em , or even better, dripping!
Someone ought to start educating southerners and take a few lorryloads down there.
As for so called southern fishcakes don't get me started!
chrishall 29-09-2009, 10:40 Another thing, when I went to live down south there was no decent cod at the chip shops, didn't realise that all the Icelandic cod stayed up north, what a sacrifice I had to make.
And, they are called chips and fish, not the other way round.
haha breadcakes and fishcakes!!
i live in louth at the moment, 5 miles from mablethorpe and lets be honest most of 'em are from sheffield or donny :)
talk about confusion with bread cakes!! i can buy the sheffield star, 1 mile away, but cant buy a breadcake...well i refuse to call them baps, rolls whatever, i once asked for a sausage roll at the bakers and got a ruddy sausage buttie :S
and as for fishcakes...all the chippies round here are run by ppl from rotherham, but i still have to ask for a "yorkshire fishcake" and wait 10 mins for it to be cooked specially...LOL
Another thing I loved as a kid was crab claws, when ever my mum took me into the fish market she used to buy me a load of crab claws wrapped in news paper.
I used to spend a good hour sat on the rug in front of the fire with a hair grip and a pair of nut crackers.....
The white meat especially from the big nippers was magic....
one of my favourite saying is "putt wood in t oil or close dooer (door)? not many people use the sheffield dialect what a shame
one of my favourite saying is "putt wood in t oil or close dooer (door)? not many people use the sheffield dialect what a shame
LOL, wer you born in a barn? nope hospital swinging doors!!
aah memories :)
ACE WASTE 30-09-2009, 06:21 Wer tha born in a field ? ah wer ah sheffield
harmston 30-09-2009, 08:30 ace waste
follow on to that is
nar darn twicker were werer twater runs orr twier
awoollen 30-09-2009, 08:54 My dad always used to shout at my grandad to embarass him when he was in a public place like queing at the bar or at the co-op "fatha put di cap on there sackin old uns" dont know why cos he was as bald as a coot aswell.any one else heard this saying is it unique to sheffield?
ya i still use it and i live in rotherham now
awoollen 30-09-2009, 08:58 one of my favourite saying is "putt wood in t oil or close dooer (door)? not many people use the sheffield dialect what a shame
i doand av lived in rotherham 49 years thy call me a thee and thower
years ago when working in a pub, a lady came in with a black eye. as she walked away from the bar to sit down one of the men at the bar referred to her black eye as "a Rovverham engagement ring" i did laugh :)
Dancing girl 30-09-2009, 13:48 My Mam always used the expression" like a throttled handbrush", to signify clothes being too tight and uncomfortable, also, she used to say, "get thi lamming gown" when referring to overcoat.
When you copped for summat you dint want you'd been "Dropped on" if you got summat they all wanted you were "Dead Jammy".
You could "Wagg it" from School and no matter where you live you always go down town.
ACE WASTE 01-10-2009, 06:43 I have a lot of trouble ordering drinks anywhere south of chesterfield, when i ask for a pint & aif o stella they always say what an aif ?
I have a lot of trouble ordering drinks anywhere south of chesterfield, when i ask for a pint & aif o stella they always say what an aif ?
once on a nite out nr wakefield i asked the waitress for a cork (had some wine left in our bottle and wanted to take it home) she returned a few mins later with 1/2 a coke!!!
bassmanjack 01-10-2009, 12:00 I could never understand why, if asked the time my grandad would say either five and twenty past or five and twenty to. instead of twenty five past or to the hour.
'He had a face as long as a gasmans mac'
'He's got an 'eead like a set pot'
If I was going about something the wrong way, my Granma' would call me a 'Johnny Greenhorn'
I think Wassock comes from the French wasseau meaning bird. (bird-brain maybe)
Plain Talker 01-10-2009, 12:42 I could never understand why, if asked the time my grandad would say either five and twenty past or five and twenty to. instead of twenty five past or to the hour.
'He had a face as long as a gasmans mac'
'He's got an 'eead like a set pot'
If I was going about something the wrong way, my Granma' would call me a 'Johnny Greenhorn'
I think Wassock comes from the French wasseau meaning bird. (bird-brain maybe)
And why is it only those two times that are expressed so?
I never thought of wassock being derived from Oiseau! That's an interesting idea!
mrs grissom 01-10-2009, 15:50 I could never understand why, if asked the time my grandad would say either five and twenty past or five and twenty to. instead of twenty five past or to the hour.
'He had a face as long as a gasmans mac'
'He's got an 'eead like a set pot'
If I was going about something the wrong way, my Granma' would call me a 'Johnny Greenhorn'
I think Wassock comes from the French wasseau meaning bird. (bird-brain maybe)
That was one of my Mums! and she usually said it about my OH who had no idea what she meant. You try translating that to your beloved for whom english was a second language let alone "sheffieldish":hihi:
A mouth like a parish oven ,if someone was always talking loudly.
Tha's got deep pockets an short arms.
bassmanjack 02-10-2009, 11:22 ....aye, 'appen as not an' likes as mebby = probably
The I one I really miss is "Three Ape nce" ,( Three half pence) and why o why do other people call it WORTER, it's WATTER !!! it says so WAT-ER
Plain Talker 02-10-2009, 15:35 The I one I really miss is "Three Ape nce" ,( Three half pence) and why o why do other people call it WORTER, it's WATTER !!! it says so WAT-ER
Three ha'pence was the fare to town from Attercliffe, way back when!
In those days nobody asked you to make a cup of tea you were always asked to mash one.
In those days nobody asked you to make a cup of tea you were always asked to mash one.
Or, Lay the table.:hihi::hihi:
sweetdexter 02-10-2009, 18:18 'Trump' for Fart ,Flatulence
It would be said to a child "Did You trump"
'Trump' for Fart ,Flatulence
It would be said to a child "Did You trump"
my OH [from darn sarf] says fart! his 6 yr old son says fart!! and sees nothing rude in this.
the word is trump :)
am i wrong?:huh:
bernette 02-10-2009, 18:25 Speak up, Brown!
Plain Talker 02-10-2009, 18:25 'Trump' for Fart ,Flatulence
It would be said to a child "Did You trump"
'More tea, Vicar?'
"Stop that, Gertrude!"
"Certainly, Aloysious...
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erm, which way did it go?"
bassmanjack 02-10-2009, 19:28 Phoo!! :gag: who's blown off ?!!
bassmanjack 02-10-2009, 19:35 If my dad was getting frustrated or fed up with something, he'd say he was
browned off with it. I wonder what the origin of that is.:confused:
chrishall 02-10-2009, 19:39 On the Manor Estate we said 'papper' instead of 'paper'
Plain Talker 02-10-2009, 21:14 Phoo!! :gag: who's blown off ?!!
"Them that smelt it, dealt it", as they say, bassmanjack!
Oh yes my Mum and Dad used to say that too and also "thas got more rattle than a can o'mabs " when I was going on about something or making too much noise.
my mum used to say im sure you been vacinated with a gramaphone needle if we chatted too much
i doand av lived in rotherham 49 years thy call me a thee and thower
if i used the word thee or thou id get a clip as my mum would say i havent brought you upmto talk like that and i still get a clip if do it now and i 49 and she still says you are not too big to get a good hiding
What about- Mowching abart. Meaning wandering aimlessly
My mother used to say " Flaming Heeley" as a mild expletive when something
went wrong.
mowching about would be if you was around the house moving from place to place my mum would say what you mowching about for and if you wasnt sat right she would say look how sloven looking you look
Another one for having airs and graces is "Long curtains and short dinners"
My Gran used to tell us to "Stop rantyin' ont' chairs"
look ore at miss prim and proper was a saying too
Also, are Poppo (for horse) and Pappap(car) just Sheffield words? have asked around and I seem to be the only one who remembers them.
i use those words now to my grandchildren piggy jack another
hiya grinder
dunt tha think wiv gorrenuff wee ar own sheffieldish weeart us avintu think abart other fooerkses way u torkin, cheers grnder, remember your bonse, bonse cover (cap) crust or noddle or napper. and your earoil,lugs, lugoil. and your lamps,blinkers cake oil(mouth). mowthall mity, clever dick, shut the trap orels i'll githee a fat lip, that a noodle (summat wrong upstairs) . the throyt. thee eyes ar bigger than the belly. and gormy, gormless, hayf baked,trundle along . no gerrup an gu. remember the shirehorses pulling the L.N.E.R.... L.M.S, railway drays, to us at the time they were all called dobbin, they used to pickup goods from the brushworks on our road, very rare to see a lorry then. wb ha ha.
shut thee cake hole,who rattled your cage,lend us a bob swipe that smile of ya face or ill swipe it off oh god how times change
Do you think it was a serious question that your mam used to ask, when after we'd been a bit naughty, she'd say ''do you want your legs rattlin'', I never had enough cheek to ask if it was optional
my mu would say bleeding legs rattlin i wouldnt dare answer back
Another one of my mothers was if we had nowhere to sit.Stick your finger up your backside and sit on your elbow.
if we had nothing to do my mum would say s--t in your hands and clap it two never did got out of the way and found things to do
My Mam always used the expression" like a throttled handbrush", to signify clothes being too tight and uncomfortable, also, she used to say, "get thi lamming gown" when referring to overcoat.
mine says throttled earwig
If my dad was getting frustrated or fed up with something, he'd say he was
browned off with it. I wonder what the origin of that is.:confused:
my mu in hosp and she saying ha now
Plain Talker 02-10-2009, 22:41 If someone is greedy, my family says that they could "eyt two taters more than a pig!"
If someone is greedy, my family says that they could "eyt two taters more than a pig!"
Another one was ...I could eyt a orse an gu back fo saddle,
Plain Talker 03-10-2009, 09:44 Another one was ...I could eyt a orse an gu back fo saddle,
yep. "Eyt an 'oss between two bread vans, and come back for the saddle."#
( I liked Lily Savage's take on that saying:- "I could eat a nun's backside through the convent gates" - only she didn't call it a backside!)
ACE WASTE 03-10-2009, 10:33 The one that sticks in my mind though i wish it wouldnt was when a work friend of mine phoned me and said tell the boss im not comming in today ive been sh**in through the eye of a needle all neet and mi ar*e is like a blood orange tha could lite a fag of it. Nowt like telling it as it is,is there
HeadingNorth 03-10-2009, 10:49 And why is it only those two times that are expressed so?
The German word for twenty-five is "funf-und-zwanzig;" literally, five and twenty. Since English evolved from the same origins as did German, I suspect that "five-and-twenty" is the older, original number, and "twenty-five" was coined much later.
(Compare "thirteen, fourteen, fifteen" ... which are basically corruptions of "three and ten, four and ten, five and ten...")
HeadingNorth 03-10-2009, 10:52 If my dad was getting frustrated or fed up with something, he'd say he was
browned off with it. I wonder what the origin of that is.:confused:
I'm fairly sure this comes from cooking; meat gets browned off when it's slightly heated. "Browned off" = getting a little hot under the collar.
HeadingNorth 03-10-2009, 10:52 shut thee cake hole
It was "pie hole" in my youth but the intent is clearly the same.
Pikelets seems to be a Sheffield/Yorkshire word,every where else it's crumpets. 14 pages in and nobody has mentions Ee by gum, why, because don't know about you lot but i've never heard anybody say it
Plain Talker 03-10-2009, 17:26 darra! oh dear! ;) showing your foreigner credentials ;)
Pkelets and crumpets are two different things
Crumpets are about the diameter of a mug rim, and thick.
Pikelets are about the size of a saucer rim, same sort of depth as a crumpet.
(maybe oatcake sized, in diameter)
Has 'mardy' been mentioned? It's a brilliant word. I use a lot but no one dahn south know what I mean. Katie cornered is a phrase that is unknown dahn south.
darra! oh dear! ;) showing your foreigner credentials ;)
Pkelets and crumpets are two different things
Crumpets are about the diameter of a mug rim, and thick.
Pikelets are about the size of a saucer rim, same sort of depth as a crumpet.
(maybe oatcake sized, in diameter)
Very true but even though it said Crumpets on the packet they were always called pikelets.
chrishall 03-10-2009, 20:08 Loppy, as in dirty.
beechnut 03-10-2009, 20:58 Loppy, as in dirty.
Yes indeed - see post #49 on this thread.:)
bassmanjack 04-10-2009, 11:26 Somebody was piking me off = watching me.:wow:
cannot mention no names, but when i was younger ,than i am now ,my freinds mum would say , so and so can't come out "our mister seen his a!!e",
cannot mention no names, but when i was younger ,than i am now ,my freinds mum would say , so and so can't come out "our mister seen his a!!e",:huh: not being funny but I don't see how this is a Sheffield saying, don't even know what it means :confused:
shanes teeth 04-10-2009, 15:29 Out on a walk this morning we saw hundreds of conkers on the floor waiting to be collected.Don't kids bother anymore? Bit different from in my day.Then,daft kids used to climb trees to get conkers before they were ready and all they got were "watter bellys".
And I'm sorry PT but I have to take issue with you about pikelets.You're right in that they were thick with holes,but only small in diameter,not big like oatcakes!
chrishall 04-10-2009, 16:01 Out on a walk this morning we saw hundreds of conkers on the floor waiting to be collected.Don't kids bother anymore? Bit different from in my day.Then,daft kids used to climb trees to get conkers before they were ready and all they got were "watter bellys".
And I'm sorry PT but I have to take issue with you about pikelets.You're right in that they were thick with holes,but only small in diameter,not big like oatcakes!
That's how I recall them. When I went to live down south I noticed crumpets looked the same as pikelets
Plain Talker 04-10-2009, 16:06 Out on a walk this morning we saw hundreds of conkers on the floor waiting to be collected.Don't kids bother anymore? Bit different from in my day.Then,daft kids used to climb trees to get conkers before they were ready and all they got were "watter bellys".
And I'm sorry PT but I have to take issue with you about pikelets.You're right in that they were thick with holes,but only small in diameter,not big like oatcakes!
So, what you are referring to are crumpets, then? (crumpets are small, pikelets are larger, about the size of a saucer.)
That's how I recall them. When I went to live down south I noticed crumpets looked the same as pikelets
That's because some people use the terms interchangeably. (and perhaps because some people have a bit of embarrassment about using the term "Crumpet", given it's "phwoar!"/ "Carry-on" connotations)
But, no, they are three separate things:- Crumpets, Pikelets, and Oatcakes.
So, what you are referring to are crumpets, then? (crumpets are small, pikelets are larger, about the size of a saucer.)That's because some people use the terms interchangeably.
But, no, they are three separate things:- Crumpets, Pikelets, and Oatcakes.my step-granny always called those small chewy holey things 'pikelets'. I've never seen any larger ones, do they still make them? Oatcakes are the flat things you can use to wrap fillings, like chapattis, yeah?
My mother always called what I now call
Crumpets as Pikelets.....First time I ever had Oatcakes was down here..........
shanes teeth 04-10-2009, 16:33 So, what you are referring to are crumpets, then? (crumpets are small, pikelets are larger, about the size of a saucer.)
That's because some people use the terms interchangeably. (and perhaps because some people have a bit of embarrassment about using the term "Crumpet", given it's "phwoar!"/ "Carry-on" connotations)
But, no, they are three separate things:- Crumpets, Pikelets, and Oatcakes.
Crumpets are the same size as pikelets but thiner and not as holy.
willybite 04-10-2009, 17:31 Nesh also means Scared
hiya we , never used nesh to mean scared, we allways said freetned,
They both have holes though. And the reason is, so the butter can run down your arms.
Really though I was going to change direction a bit and introduce some old pub terms.
Can anyone remember the term 'best room'? Probably it refered to what became known as the 'Lounge'. And when I used to fetch beer for my dad, the pub I went to had names above the doors; 'Taproom', 'Smoking Room', and the aforementioned 'Lounge' of course.
But a term I heard used a lot was 'drammer'. By the time I got to boozing it seemed to have disapeared. I always imagined a small room where you only got a shot of spirits, a 'dram' in other words. But I found a reference to 'best room'. It's been in use since 1750 more or less, and it was also used in the days of the American Revolution. Seems a shame it's died out.
chrishall 04-10-2009, 18:16 Now I am older I prefer pikelet to crumpet, less hassle :hihi:
Out on a walk this morning we saw hundreds of conkers on the floor waiting to be collected.Don't kids bother anymore? Bit different from in my day.Then,daft kids used to climb trees to get conkers before they were ready and all they got were "watter bellys".
And I'm sorry PT but I have to take issue with you about pikelets.You're right in that they were thick with holes,but only small in diameter,not big like oatcakes!
Re comkers,health and safety decrees that kids can't play conkers anymore,not without the required risk assessment being carried and safety gear being worn
They both have holes though. And the reason is, so the butter can run down your arms.
Really though I was going to change direction a bit and introduce some old pub terms.
Can anyone remember the term 'best room'? Probably it refered to what became known as the 'Lounge'. And when I used to fetch beer for my dad, the pub I went to had names above the doors; 'Taproom', 'Smoking Room', and the aforementioned 'Lounge' of course.
But a term I heard used a lot was 'drammer'. By the time I got to boozing it seemed to have disapeared. I always imagined a small room where you only got a shot of spirits, a 'dram' in other words. But I found a reference to 'best room'. It's been in use since 1750 more or less, and it was also used in the days of the American Revolution. Seems a shame it's died out.
I was always lead to believe that the Dram shop,drammer,came about so that me could go in there and swear and gamble without offending the women.If a woman went in she had to put up with the swearing.If you went into the best room,lounge, your drink would cost you a penny more,but you sat on soft stools and chairs and invariably they had a piano player.
If we were making a bit of a racket at home my dad used to say "Shurrup it's like a dramshop in here"
darra! oh dear! ;) showing your foreigner credentials ;)
Pkelets and crumpets are two different things
Crumpets are about the diameter of a mug rim, and thick.
Pikelets are about the size of a saucer rim, same sort of depth as a crumpet.
(maybe oatcake sized, in diameter)
The was an oatcake and pikelet shop in Crookes. The pikelets they made were the same as the crumpets I buy today, as are the oatcakes. My son can demolish a packet at one sitting - toasted of course.
there was lounge or best room beer did cost more in there then the tap room they used to play cards dominoes darts and then the dram shop there the men used to swear and have there arguments about football ect.
Well, that's about how I remember some of the pubs, but I still imagine that the dram shop, ways back, only sold the hard stuff, like you could nip in and get a shot. I was going to say if you needed it, but who doesn't from time to time?
But, I digress. Remember the term 'living place'? I can remember going to call on a mate when I was a kid, and his mother saying 'He's in the living place'. This was a house where the backdoor opened straight into the kitchen. The 'living place' being the room between the kitchen and the front room. Never come across it anywhere but Sheffield.
henrypond 05-10-2009, 18:50 hiya we , never used nesh to mean scared, we allways said freetned,
More cowardly than scared. "Th'at nesh thee". In a similar vein, anyone else come across "yit un".
willybite 05-10-2009, 18:54 The was an oatcake and pikelet shop in Crookes. The pikelets they made were the same as the crumpets I buy today, as are the oatcakes. My son can demolish a packet at one sitting - toasted of course.
hiya i remember just after the war about 48/9/50/ we had on bath st a pikelet man come round he carried a big wicker basket it was full of pikelets and oatcakes but the ones i remember bore no resemblance to the ones today, the pikelets were smaller than oatcakes which were darker and aroundthe size of a small dinner plate, the pikelets were toasted at the open fire the oatcakes were too big to toast but when they were heated we had syrup, or jam on them,There was a pikelet shop down hereford st i would pass it on the way to the lane to watch united,across the road was the Horsemeat shop,
henrypond 05-10-2009, 19:51 Re comkers,health and safety decrees that kids can't play conkers anymore,not without the required risk assessment being carried and safety gear being worn
Trust you're saying that with your tongue in your cheek:
http://www.hse.gov.uk/myth/september.htm
mrs grissom 06-10-2009, 07:09 hiya i remember just after the war about 48/9/50/ we had on bath st a pikelet man come round he carried a big wicker basket it was full of pikelets and oatcakes but the ones i remember bore no resemblance to the ones today, the pikelets were smaller than oatcakes which were darker and aroundthe size of a small dinner plate, the pikelets were toasted at the open fire the pikelets were too big to toast but when they were heated we had syrup, or jam on them,There was a pikelet shop down hereford st i would pass it on the way to the lane to watch united,across the road was the Horsemeat shop,
Oh Willybite, crikey you have done it now! Our friend Margaret once told us she could remember a shop selling horse meat at the bottom of the Moor somewhere and we all. fell about laughing. Winding her up by saying that must have been during the war as she is so much older than us (us 53-53 ,her57 !) Going to have to grovel now:hihi:
Arfer Mo 06-10-2009, 10:42 HI Not only the name, but nearly the same birthday, mine is the9/9/24 . Cheers Arthur.
Arfer Mo 06-10-2009, 10:50 he's seen is arse would be what was meant
Arfer Mo 06-10-2009, 10:56 my mum used the word ;nesh; if one was against washing in cold water
Arfer Mo 06-10-2009, 11:08 HI Willybite , l bet it was the same chap l remember , he used to come in ___our yard___ on Gloucester st ,and the desccription of his wares is just as l recall .Cheers Arthur.
Arfer Mo 06-10-2009, 11:13 Confirm the horsemeat shop's location in Hereford, because l did some repairs on that block during the war Arthur
Arfer Mo 06-10-2009, 11:17 l confirm the saying 'living place' as being the living room Arthur
Arfer Mo 06-10-2009, 11:29 ln prewar years there were in the dramshop 'spitoons' with sawdust [for the uninitionated they were as the saying was 'to gob in ' spit] Arthur
willybite 06-10-2009, 14:23 ln prewar years there were in the dramshop 'spitoons' with sawdust [for the uninitionated they were as the saying was 'to gob in ' spit] Arthur
hiya arther willy bite here again the horsemeat shop was on the right hand side from the moor, on the corner was i think barkleys bank? then an electrical ? shop, then a FACTORY i remember it had a wide archway then the said shop, not sure i think there were a wallpaper shop and a pet shop .on the left side was where era furnishings was, and a small pub i think then a little lane with a paper shop on its corner with a chip shop just next door on the lane, from the paper shop further down was the pikelet shop tghen there was a little cafe then the pub on the corner with its fully cream tiled frontage.
arther do you remember another papershop WOOLHOUSES bottom of cavendish st they had a few girls and one son peter, last saw him about 3 years back.
willybite 06-10-2009, 14:41 Oh Willybite, crikey you have done it now! Our friend Margaret once told us she could remember a shop selling horse meat at the bottom of the Moor somewhere and we all. fell about laughing. Winding her up by saying that must have been during the war as she is so much older than us (us 53-53 ,her57 !) Going to have to grovel now:hihi:
hiya well grovel ha ha but it is true about the horsemeat shop your friend must have only just remembered it at 57 .anyway sorry.( they would always cut the yellowish fat off to pass it off as beef, trouble was the helpings were so much bigger of horseflesh than beef because it was a lot cheaper.
mrs grissom 06-10-2009, 16:49 hiya well grovel ha ha but it is true about the horsemeat shop your friend must have only just remembered it at 57 Y.anyway sorry.
Hi Willybite, yes I was thinking that too. Perhaps she is older than she is letting on eh? can you remember how long it was there? she told me that she used to come into town from th Derbyshire border with her Dad to do the shopping and she hated going past the horse meat shop so she must have been old enough for it to register eh? perhaps she's knocked a couple of years off, waaitt ill I see her tomorrow:suspect:
Trust you're saying that with your tongue in your cheek:
http://www.hse.gov.uk/myth/september.htm
Don't tell me tell the heads that are still banning them in schools :)
ln prewar years there were in the dramshop 'spitoons' with sawdust [for the uninitionated they were as the saying was 'to gob in ' spit] Arthur
You don't remember them do you Arthur? PPhtt.....ting!
Didn't they have them in the best room but called them cuspidors? Just kidding.
I read a story by Mark Twain in which he mentions a cuspidor with an engraving on the rim stating 'In God We Trust'.
willybite 06-10-2009, 18:57 Hi Willybite, yes I was thinking that too. Perhaps she is older than she is letting on eh? can you remember how long it was there? she told me that she used to come into town from th Derbyshire border with her Dad to do the shopping and she hated going past the horse meat shop so she must have been old enough for it to register eh? perhaps she's knocked a couple of years off, waaitt ill I see her tomorrow:suspect:
hiya thinking back i can't reember when it closed sorry i did use era furnishings in 1962 and the bank on the corner a bit earlier so i cant tell you exactly when the horseflesh shop closed, i think they used the word horseflesh instead of horsemeat
ps there were some good tripe shops around as well.i only ate tripe and chicklins and bag,but people around at the time40/50s i remember ate cowheel and legbeef, pigs trotters ,cows udder, sheeps brains,pigs ears, pigs face, pig's chaps, the worst for me was tongue, ugh.
Nesh also means Scared
I've never heard nesh used to mean scared. Nesh means you're not hardy (eg. you feel the cold easily)
Yitten means scared or cowardly, it's what thi call thi when that freetened.
Manxdeedah 06-10-2009, 19:49 A can see thas got t 'monk on.
willybite 07-10-2009, 10:42 I've never heard nesh used to mean scared. Nesh means you're not hardy (eg. you feel the cold easily)
Yitten means scared or cowardly, it's what thi call thi when that freetened.
correct deedar that reight theer. sum orum no nowt eh.
willybite 07-10-2009, 11:21 Today a friend and i was having a conversation with an elderly lady, she said someone was obstropulous, and that they could stop a nine day clock! is it old sheffield twang or what!
hhiya lilylager da started summat wi dis thred abet da dint think thad gerr as meny leters as thas ad did tha, god i amt spoke like dis for yonks mind it keeps mi brane tikkin, av never ritten owt like dis befoor eyeder tanks.
canda remember anybody that was tall being called" longshanks" or tu se tu a lass tha reminds me ora film staar.... lassie
We used to live next door to a bloke that my Mum and Dad called 'Asda' because he was always asking, "As da got" something or other he wanted to borrow.
Have a look at www.birkett.yolasite.com for 'First Job' - a Sheffield story.
hillsbro 07-10-2009, 12:40 'Asda' sounds a bit like 'aster'. My grandad always said 'aster' (i.e. 'hast thou') and 'wilter' (i.e. wilt thou') instead of 'have you' and 'will you'. So he might say "aster bin ooam?", "aster gorr any fags" or "wilter lend me a bob?" etc.
that reminded me of the sheffield bus drivers who used to refer to the OAPs as "twirlies", as in "am ah too early"
bassmanjack 07-10-2009, 13:35 I once asked my mother how to pronounce either "Is it eether or ither? " I asked...
she didn't look up, and said "nayther" ~ thx mam.:suspect:
does anyboy else say "standing 'ere like clem"?
and whois clem?
my OH thinks i made it up! but i have always said it, must have come from school:loopy::loopy:
I used a lot of Sheffield slang and dialect in the first drafts of 'First Job' but reviewers complained that they spent too much time trying to understand what Dave and Phil were on about so I had to tone it down a bit.
Read it at www.birkett.yolasite.com
Highnote 07-10-2009, 16:20 No Maxine Smith it was not made up, my Mum used to use the exact expression when she was kept waiting or left standing "I'm standing here like clem", another of her expressions was a compliment when we looking smart and well turned out, she would say "You look like a new scraped carrot"
'Standing theer like clem'. I always thought it meant standing around looking dumb or something. Or, I've heard the expression 'I'm bloody clammed', meaning hungry.
Both these have been kicked around on another thread, I think, but I'm still not totally clear where, or from what, they originate.
When did anybody last hear the expression 'new laid egg', like in a recipe 'Take a new laid egg'. The only time you'd actually get a new laid egg nowadays is to keep fowls, and then you'd have to stick your hand under the rear end of your favorite bird. (I should edit that last bit really, but no).
that reminded me of the sheffield bus drivers who used to refer to the OAPs as "twirlies", as in "am ah too early"
A new expression, came about when OAP's were given free bus passes.
When I was at the Tech. our English master used to say "you speak three languages, English, French & Sheffield, English being the worst spoken" One day he gave us a book written in Yorkshire dialect, we had great difficulty reading it aloud.
'Standing theer like clem'. I always thought it meant standing around looking dumb or something. Or, I've heard the expression 'I'm bloody clammed', meaning hungry.
Both these have been kicked around on another thread, I think, but I'm still not totally clear where, or from what, they originate.
When did anybody last hear the expression 'new laid egg', like in a recipe 'Take a new laid egg'. The only time you'd actually get a new laid egg nowadays is to keep fowls, and then you'd have to stick your hand under the rear end of your favorite bird. (I should edit that last bit really, but no).
yep, i always use "clem" when im stood around waiting for one of the kids to get ready, especially when i have reminded them "its time to go" several times! and im just stood there like, well, CLEM!
bassmanjack 07-10-2009, 19:39 It was either Clem or Soft Mick that we stood about like.....
Have you ever been told not to hang around with someone 'cus ees a rum 'un?
ee's mooer trouble than a cart looad o' monkeys
Arfer Mo 07-10-2009, 19:50 My old mum used to say [standing there like clem ] and i'm 85 so the saying is old enough l once asked whose clem, she said 'how the hell do l know' Arthur
Arfer Mo 07-10-2009, 20:25 HI PlainTalker, talking about markets and sayings did you ever the patter of one stallholder who used to sell all sorts of cures, one was for worms [l'd go just to get a laugh] he'd say .Now all you mothers 'if you see that child picking its nose and scratching its bum 'THAT' childs got worms, A few of us kids used to say it at the same time as him , much to his annoyance. Arthur
Arfer Mo 07-10-2009, 20:44 HI The wallpaper shop was Blaskeys , there was a family of Woolhouse's lived on Dorset st there was a son Pete as we called him perhaps the same? eh Arthur
My Mom always says "I'm starved" meaning she's cold and if the shops are crowded, she says it were "snyded aht" She lives in Kent now and the locals don't know what she's on abaht aif ot time.
My Mom always says "I'm starved" meaning she's cold and if the shops are crowded, she says it were "snyded aht" She lives in Kent now and the locals don't know what she's on abaht aif ot time.
In Sheffield that perished if that cold.
I can remember one year getting a bike from Wiggys instead o father Christmas.
And it dint matter if da doged insurance man cuss it's not a debt.
willybite 08-10-2009, 15:46 In Sheffield that perished if that cold.
I can remember one year getting a bike from Wiggys instead o father Christmas.
And it dint matter if da doged insurance man cuss it's not a debt.
hiya grinder
i wish thad mek the mind up withe rittin one minit tha spels oreight anext thee spelins altu cok like thee spelin of cold, dusta meen cowd, a wish thad meck de mind up ope tha dunt tek uff abart me sayin owt abart it, av brock me finga,leg,aarm,
just passin a bit o time just joakin oreeight meowd sithe den, or is it sidee den.
anuther arv jus remembered tha mite se dis to a little girl lernin ta talk, hoo tha art a gabby aggy, just a thought can we be classed as bi-lingual ? when you think about it our second language at school was i suppose english egh
Nayow dat aureight pal, tek moor dan dat t upset me....
As kids when we left a door open we were always told to 'put wood in t'oyl'
Saying "put the wood in the hole" gets mixed reactions!
What about 'lift t'snek' then? My mam used to say that when she wanted the door opened.
Thi snek is another word for thi noowaz.
hillsbro 09-10-2009, 06:13 What about 'lift t'snek' then? My mam used to say that when she wanted the door opened.
Quite right - "sneck" is a dialect word for a lever that opens the catch on an old-fashioned door fitting - see here (http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_561507958/sneck.html) and here (http://www.robertkarl.org/woodworkingblog/uploaded_images/DoorSneck-780993.jpg).
Plain Talker 09-10-2009, 09:13 Thi snek is another word for thi noowaz.
Ah thowt that were thi "snitch", not a sneck?
What about CHUCKIN.
As in chuckin stooens or gerin chucked aht o pictures...
Birdin.
Goowin aht wi lasses..
and the classic,
"Is dat dar bird" ?
willybite 09-10-2009, 09:48 What about CHUCKIN.
As in chuckin stooens or gerin chucked aht o pictures...
Birdin.
Goowin art wi lasses..
and the classic,
"Is dat dar bird" ?
warra abaart, doan swoller it, chow it , it werr, keep the sneck aart ar it , and wipe thee snitch its runnin, well run afterit , tha woodnt sey wipe the sneck, or keep the snitch out, two different uses.coors the both meean nooers, a no anudder, that stikin de nooers in weer itsnotwanted .in't pub, odder gooin ta gerrum in,ar think its dar round, its thar corl int it,ar gorrum in a bit bak, ar sed its thar tern or duz da want a thick eer insted,
what about clobber, shoe-pods,that like a kettle drum shut it,thars got sum lip ant da,
warrabart, that a durty erb, or erbert,tha's not wesht de nek its loppy, anybody wants to borrow some cash they were ont tab,or tap.
if you wanted the loo, at home you would say, just gooin across yaard, if you were int pub you go tut back,or tut lagger,this one was crood a no burr it wer sed,
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