Thi snek is another word for thi noowaz.

Ah thowt that were thi "snitch", not a sneck?

There'a a game played with babies called 'Knock on the door'. To 'knock on the door' you gently rap the baby's forehead. Then you 'ring the bell' tweaking one cheek. ''Ring it well' tweak the other cheek. 'Lift the sneck' tapping the baby's nose and finally the baby should be laughing or gurgling so you say 'walk in' and using two fingers 'walk up' their chin towards the baby's mouth.

So in this instance the sneck is the nose.

There'a a game played with babies called 'Knock on the door'. To 'knock on the door' you gently rap the baby's forehead. Then you 'ring the bell' tweaking one cheek. ''Ring it well' tweak the other cheek. 'Lift the sneck' tapping the baby's nose and finally the baby should be laughing or gurgling so you say 'walk in' and using two fingers 'walk up' their chin towards the baby's mouth.

So in this instance the sneck is the nose.
Is that where it comes from then? I wonder if dannys for hands has a similar origin, and where does bloody POPPO for a horse come from?

Is that where it comes from then? I wonder if dannys for hands has a similar origin, and where does bloody POPPO for a horse come from?

Poppo is the noise a horses hooves make on the cobbles or on the wood blocks that some roads were paved with.

l fitted lots of these as a lad ,they were called Suffolk latches, and consisted of latch, catch,and carry, and some ironmongers would split them ,if one only wanted either part .Cheers Arthur.

You don't remember them do you Arthur? PPhtt.....ting!
Didn't they have them in the best room but called them cuspidors? Just kidding.
I read a story by Mark Twain in which he mentions a cuspidor with an engraving on the rim stating 'In God We Trust'.

Hi Texas l certainly do remember them my uncle kept the Albany on Gloucester st, and they were part of the furnishings. he used to give me a penny to empty them and put in new sawdust, the job was not too bad till you came to one where someone who had used it several times and missed his aim, l used to wonder why he would whisper in my ear ' don't tell your Mum you do this. Arthur

There'a a game played with babies called 'Knock on the door'. To 'knock on the door' you gently rap the baby's forehead. Then you 'ring the bell' tweaking one cheek. ''Ring it well' tweak the other cheek. 'Lift the sneck' tapping the baby's nose and finally the baby should be laughing or gurgling so you say 'walk in' and using two fingers 'walk up' their chin towards the baby's mouth.

So in this instance the sneck is the nose.

so the cheek is actually a bell?

I've never rang a cheek...?

Grandad used to say that someone tall and thin looked like A Yard of Pump Water !

Two more of my Mums have just come back to me. If you were hungry she would say that you were "peggin up" and if you sat at the tabe with your cutlery in your hands eager for your tea she would say "wats up, are you chap phoning?" and i have nooo ideeea where either of them could come from . LOL

so the cheek is actually a bell?

I've never rang a cheek...?

Yes for the purpose of the rhyme a cheek is a bell and if you've never rang a cheek you don't know what you've been missing. :hihi:

In the 60's my cousin's girlfriend used to call the Illuminations (at Christmas or Blackpool) 'Lillylows'. Any ideas?

There'a a game played with babies called 'Knock on the door'. To 'knock on the door' you gently rap the baby's forehead. Then you 'ring the bell' tweaking one cheek. ''Ring it well' tweak the other cheek. 'Lift the sneck' tapping the baby's nose and finally the baby should be laughing or gurgling so you say 'walk in' and using two fingers 'walk up' their chin towards the baby's mouth.

So in this instance the sneck is the nose.

so the cheek is actually a bell?

I've never rang a cheek...?

PT you got me thinking so I checked with my son who as a toddler was often on the receiving end of this little game. The ears are bells to be rung one at a time and the cheeks are chairs where one cheek was tweaked to the line 'take a chair' then the other cheek was tweaked as you said the line 'place it there'. Apparently after 'walking in' the chin was tweaked in time to the line 'how do you do this morning'. And I thought my son never ever listened to me. Obviously as a toddler he did!

In the 60's my cousin's girlfriend used to call the Illuminations (at Christmas or Blackpool) 'Lillylows'. Any ideas?I don't have any proof but just have the feeling that 'lilleloes' is an old Yorkshire dialect word for 'marshlights'. Hence, any small glimmering lights. When I was little the oldies always said that and I still call fairy lights 'lilleloes'

My Grandad used to say "By but tha looks a little Bobby Dazzler in that"...

What's a Bobby Dazzler ?

What's a Bobby Dazzler ?

My grandma would say it were summat posh - see post #102 on Page 6. If she didn't feel too well, grandma would say "I'm a bit off o' t' hooks" - is this a Sheffield saying? Likewise if someone suffered a setback, grandma would say it had "knocked yer duck off".

PT you got me thinking so I checked with my son who as a toddler was often on the receiving end of this little game. The ears are bells to be rung one at a time and the cheeks are chairs where one cheek was tweaked to the line 'take a chair' then the other cheek was tweaked as you said the line 'place it there'. Apparently after 'walking in' the chin was tweaked in time to the line 'how do you do this morning'. And I thought my son never ever listened to me. Obviously as a toddler he did!

my granny used to play that particular game with me and my sisters and cousins.

The "walking in" bit was like in the other game mentioned above, and, yes, the chin was held, and "wiggled" as if you were shaking hands with it (sorry if that sounds daft, but it's the only way I can describe the action to that bit of the rhyme)

my grandpa was very fond of singing a couple of "rude" (well, a bit naughty, any ways) rhymes to us.

One was "Once upon a time, the birds (cough) the line, and the monkeys chewed tobacco. The little piggies ran... (etc etc) :blush: "

the other was

"Not last night, but the night before
Three tom-cats
Came knocking at my door.
One had a fiddle,
One had a drum.
One had a pancake, stuck to his b*m " (hehehe)

He as also fond of the less risqué nonsense rhymes, such as

"One fine day in the middle of the night,
Two dead men got up to fight...."

He also used to recite one that was a very similar one to the "tomcats" one, about someone knocking on his door and thumping him when he answered.

addition to the post above:-


"knock on the door,
ring the bell,
Lift the sneck
open the door
and walk in
Take a chair
and place it there..
how do you do?
how do you do,
and how do you do this morning...

(or something very similar)

My grandma would say it were summat posh - see post #102 on Page 6. If she didn't feel too well, grandma would say "I'm a bit off o' t' hooks" - is this a Sheffield saying? Likewise if someone suffered a setback, grandma would say it had "knocked yer duck off".

i always thought the expression "it rate knocked me duck off" meant you were deaply upset/distressed.........but normally a bloke would use it rather than having to say, "it upset me" ?

What about CHUCKIN.
As in chuckin stooens or gerin chucked aht o pictures...

Birdin.
Goowin aht wi lasses..

and the classic,
"Is dat dar bird" ?

an skimmin stooens ort watter in enks, or lobbin bigga stooens int watter. iz summat up withee, or wats up withee wot tha lookin at duz da want a foto. one hoo dint fit in wer corld ded snotty, tikle taklin, mownin abart nowt,upstares in kip,it was never hillsbrough it was always owlerton, if tha wer gooin ter see wensdy play thad be gooin tu owlerton.or united it'd bitu lane.

What's a Bobby Dazzler ?It's like a rubydazzler but with a bobby instead of a ruby :D

They just used to say it when you had something new, clothes or shoes, whatever, and you looked extra specially nice, iirc.

hiya my father-in-law when he was alive, when he was ready for bed with the alarm clock under his arm, would say" arm onnat six int mornin i'll make the door, mind if anybody broke in here thay'd leave us summat" he was an old park lad all his life born on talbot st and died on parkhill flats. 65 years.

hiya my father-in-law when he was alive, when he was ready for bed with the alarm clock under his arm, would say" arm onnat six int mornin i'll make the door, mind if anybody broke in here thay'd leave us summat" he was an old park lad all his life born on talbot st and died on parkhill flats. 65 years.

He weren't on "neets reglar" then?

My Grandad used to say "By but tha looks a little Bobby Dazzler in that"...

What's a Bobby Dazzler ?
The explanation I heard was that it was originally used to describe the first dynamo powered bicycle lights. Up till that point, everyone used to have to cycle around in the dark at night. These lights became known as "Bobby Dazzlers". Bobbys were policemen on the beat and, apart from the odd moggy, would be just about the only thing you'd be able to dazzle on the nightime streets in those days. Over the years, Bobby Dazzler became a name for anything smart, modern and impressive.

The explanation I heard was that it was originally used to describe the first dynamo powered bicycle lights. Up till that point, everyone used to have to cycle around in the dark at night. These lights became known as "Bobby Dazzlers". Bobbys were policemen on the beat and, apart from the odd moggy, would be just about the only thing you'd be able to dazzle on the nightime streets in those days. Over the years, Bobby Dazzler became a name for anything smart, modern and impressive.

Sounds good to me, thanks deedar....:thumbsup:

we say gennall they say ginell or slip cant think of others

Sounds good to me, thanks deedar....:thumbsup:

Just found this on the web too:
In the heyday of Cycling Clubs the police would lie in wait for their dusk return. Those without lights got in the middle, those with the new fangled very bright acetylene lamps rode on the outside, their lamps were the Bobby Dazzlers.

To this day when the kids ask whats for tea I say "A run around the table and a slide down the cupboard door" ..... My grandma favorite response

we say gennall they say ginell or slip cant think of others
Here are a few of the many words used for an alleyway:

Sheffield.... -... gennel
Barnsley.... -... ginnel
Leicester... -... snicket
Sussex...... -... twitten
North Lincs..-... tenfoot (except Grimsby - eightfoot. Funny lot in Grimsby.;))

Tha'l not catch owd birds wi chaf.

yonks=a long time

donks=donkeys years

also sheffield? and why donkeys?

The saying about 'knock at the door', brought back some wonderful memories of my late gran!! She used to say it too my babies, I hadn't heard it before nor since, it was lovely to see it again. Gran died in 1980 and my babies are now 42 and 40!!!!

To this day when the kids ask whats for tea I say "A run around the table and a slide down the cupboard door" ..... My grandma favorite response

my mum's version was "A run round't table, and a kick at 't'cellar door!"

To this day when the kids ask whats for tea I say "A run around the table and a slide down the cupboard door" ..... My grandma favorite response

We got 3 runs round't table and a kick at' cellar door

...donks=donkeys years also sheffield? and why donkeys?

It supposedly began as "donkey's ears" in rhyming slang - "donkey's ears" = years.

It supposedly began as "donkey's ears" in rhyming slang - "donkey's ears" = years.

aha! that makes total sense, thankyou :)

My mum always said I was 'gormless' :(

My mum always said I was 'gormless' :(

There's some crackers for that, including Crackers, Barmy, nut case,
Barmpot, soft in the head.
Yet "you big softy" meant some thing totaly different....

My mum always said I was 'gormless' :(

Mine did, too. I don't know how I came to lose my gorm but I'd like it back..:(

If I hadn't managed to scrub all my lipstick off before going home, (usually in the gennel) my mother would go spare and tell me I looked "as common as muck".

I still call street lighting, Gas lamps.

We got 3 runs round't table and a kick at' cellar door

you greedy beggars! we only got one! lol lol lol

Mine did, too. I don't know how I came to lose my gorm but I'd like it back..:(

If you find it, can you ask it if it has seen mine anywhere?
Thanks
PS Maybe your gorm is asleep, check out the Gormitory

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gorm

Maybe our Mums were right

For tea we sometimes had a run round the table and a kick at the cellar door.Other times we'd have "roast leg of liver"
When asked where he was going,my dad used to say"I'm going puppy trotting to see the monkies jump"or"I'm going to see a man about a dog"

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gorm

Maybe our Mums were right

LOL i love the urban dictionary! noticed they didnt have gorma!

If my mum saw anyone who looked mucky she would say they look as if they havnt had a wesh since midwife weshed em

PT you got me thinking so I checked with my son who as a toddler was often on the receiving end of this little game. The ears are bells to be rung one at a time and the cheeks are chairs where one cheek was tweaked to the line 'take a chair' then the other cheek was tweaked as you said the line 'place it there'. Apparently after 'walking in' the chin was tweaked in time to the line 'how do you do this morning'. And I thought my son never ever listened to me. Obviously as a toddler he did!

right on chimay you've saved me time the one missing was wipe your feet across the top lip when the baby would open its mouth.

For tea we sometimes had a run round the table and a kick at the cellar door.Other times we'd have "roast leg of liver"

My gran would say we were having "pickled herring feet and bow-legged chicklings"..:confused:

anybody else remember ppl saying moant, instead of wont?

I've only heard" moant" used instead of "mustn't"

I've only heard" moant" used instead of "mustn't"

that must be it....i'm talking about over 20 years since i heard it!! ty:)

Anyone heard the expression"Good wood warms you twice,once when you cut it,once when you burn it"
Scene-our old joiners shop:-

Na then Jud, 'as thee any sticks fo't fire?
Aye lad,but it's not very good wood.
Why's that?
'Cause I've cut it,tha's on'y gonna burn it!
Well,can I 'ave some any road?
Please thee sen!

that must be it....i'm talking about over 20 years since i heard it!! ty:)Don't you live in Sheff anymore, maxine? I hear it everyday. If you mix with a lot of people in your job, you still hear a lot of the old sayings and way of talking. I like it, having lived most of my younger life part here and part in London, it always makes me feel a bit soft when someone calls me lad, or tells me I'm shaping fine or job's a good un! :D

Don't you live in Sheff anymore, maxine? I hear it everyday. If you mix with a lot of people in your job, you still hear a lot of the old sayings and way of talking. I like it, having lived most of my younger life part here and part in London, it always makes me feel a bit soft when someone calls me lad, or tells me I'm shaping fine or job's a good un! :D

lol, am about to return (evil laugh smilie neeed) looks like im in for a culture shock :)

right on chimay you've saved me time the one missing was wipe your feet across the top lip when the baby would open its mouth.

Thanks willybite. I didn't know about wiping your feet across the top lip. What is the line and where does that fit into the rhyme?

Me mam always said "Tha' mon't" - she meant tha' mustn't.

as in "Tha' mon't bring no mooer rammel int' 'ouse"

Avin lived ere all mi life, a know for a fact dut were reight an all rest on um are do lally..

LOL i love the urban dictionary! noticed they didnt have gorma!

Hi Maxine,
I assume you are referring to the female form of 'Gorm'
Gormas have in fact been around since the Gorman invasion in 1066
Also the Welsh girl's name 'Morag' is an anagram derived from 'Gorma'. According to some sources this is due to the diffciulty some Welshmen apparently have in differentiating between women and gormless Welsh sheep.
Speaking of sheep, have you never tried Mutton Gorma at your local Indian restaurant? It's very popular which possibly accounts for many of the missing Gorms and Gormas.....

Regards
Norm the Gorm

Thanks willybite. I didn't know about wiping your feet across the top lip. What is the line and where does that fit into the rhyme?

knock at the door ,ring the bell, ring it well,lift the sneck,and wipe your feet, walk in, take a chair sit you down, how do you do this morning.

Mum didn't always say I was gormless, she often used the charming phrase 'Thy hasn't got the bloody brains tha' were born with'

Avin lived ere all mi life, a know for a fact dut were reight an all rest on um are do lally..

Aye, but just remember, they're all a bit odd, except me and thee, and even thar't a bit odd. ;)

knock at the door ,ring the bell, ring it well, wipe your feet, walk in, take a chair sit youself down, how do you do this morning.
l

Thanks willybite your version is slightly different to mine. Where you are wiping your feet I'm lifting the sneck. Then I'm taking a chair (tweaking one cheek) and placing it there (tweaking the other cheek)! :smile:

Thanks willybite your version is slightly different to mine. Where you are wiping your feet I'm lifting the sneck. Then I'm taking a chair (tweaking one cheek) and placing it there (tweaking the other cheek)! :smile:

sorry iknew i'd missed one thanks i'll put it right in above.

Willybite do you know the rhyme 'the lady goes a nim nim nim'?

My wife still calls me a gormy bl**der.

Perhaps I've got too much gorm.:|

I remember if any one showed off in the street they were "Maykin a raight PIPPY SHOW o the sen"..
Any one know where's that comes from ?

Willybite do you know the rhyme 'the lady goes a nim nim nim'?I vaguely remember something when your grandpa put you on his knee and bounced you about gently saying something like "The lady's horse goes a prim, prim, prim". and then bounced you like mad saying But the gentlemen's horse goes a gallop, a gallop, a gallop" Is that it?

There was more to it, but I used to really enjoy it! Especially the galloping bit :D I was only about 3 at the time ... honest! :thumbsup:

eta: found your one ... http://www.kidslyrics.co.uk/acatalog/JCGCD603_song_Activity.pdf 'This is the way the ladies ride'

I vaguely remember something when your grandpa put you on his knee and bounced you about gently saying something like "The lady's horse goes a prim, prim, prim". and then bounced you like mad saying But the gentlemen's horse goes a gallop, a gallop, a gallop" Is that it?

There was more to it, but I used to really enjoy it! Especially the galloping bit :D I was only about 3 at the time ... honest! :thumbsup:

eta: found your one ... http://www.kidslyrics.co.uk/acatalog/JCGCD603_song_Activity.pdf 'This is the way the ladies ride'

I remember it as ,
The lady's horse goes prim prim prim,
The gentleman's horse goes trot trot trot.
The farmers horse goes gallopy gallopy gallopy

Willybite do you know the rhyme 'the lady goes a nim nim nim'?
hiya i think i've written it down before but i cant find it probably on another thread,
anyhow, my gran sang iit to me ,my mum sang it to my children, and i've sung it to my grandchildren. the one that we sang was ,ladie's go nim,nim,nim, gentlemen go, trit trot, trit trot, trit trot, cowboys go, gallopy, gallopy over the gate,

my other gran would say" she sells sea shells on the sea shore,the shells that she sells are sea shells i'm sure, so if she sells sea shells on the sea shore,i'm sure that the shells are sea shore shells". somehow it didn't sound right ,maybe it was her lincolnshire accent eh.

I remember if any one showed off in the street they were "Maykin a raight PIPPY SHOW o the sen"..
Any one know where's that comes from ?

hiya grinder we used this phrase when i was young, could it have been sed earlier
that mekin a reight puppet show o thesen ar dunno

I remember if any one showed off in the street they were "Maykin a raight PIPPY SHOW o the sen"..
Any one know where's that comes from ?

hiya grinder we used this phrase when i was young, could it have been sed earlier that mekin a reight puppet show o thesen ar dunno, and i remember only pippy show the first part of this letter was only a suggestion from where it could have originated, another, showin the sen up, and that mekkin a reight ashorit dar dumplin,get thisen or eear afoor a crack de, anyway grinder remember weer wer tha brung up,? in a field, shut thaat bl---y dooer.

I can see where your coming from Willybite, but I definitely remember it as PIPPY not puppet..

I vaguely remember something when your grandpa put you on his knee and bounced you about gently saying something like "The lady's horse goes a prim, prim, prim". and then bounced you like mad saying But the gentlemen's horse goes a gallop, a gallop, a gallop" Is that it?

There was more to it, but I used to really enjoy it! Especially the galloping bit :D I was only about 3 at the time ... honest! :thumbsup:

eta: found your one ... http://www.kidslyrics.co.uk/acatalog/JCGCD603_song_Activity.pdf 'This is the way the ladies ride'

I remember it as ,
The lady's horse goes prim prim prim,
The gentleman's horse goes trot trot trot.
The farmers horse goes gallopy gallopy gallopy

hiya i think i've written it down before but i cant find it probably on another thread,
anyhow, my gran sang iit to me ,my mum sang it to my children, and i've sung it to my grandchildren. the one that we sang was ,ladie's go nim,nim,nim, gentlemen go, trit trot, trit trot, trit trot, cowboys go, gallopy, gallopy over the gate,


Willybite, your rhyme is more like the one I remember;
A lady goes a nim, nim, nim
A gentleman goes a trot, trot, trot
But a farmer goes a gallop, a gallop, a gallop.

This is said with the toddler sat on your lap facing away from you and for each line being bounced more vigoruosly. My sons now aged 25 and 21 still live in fear of me pulling them onto my lap for a quick rhyme. Little do they realise that they are so big now (over 6ft) they'd probably break my knees! :hihi:

My Grandma used to tell me to 'frame' if she was trying to get me to do summat when I was little, e.g. if she was trying to get me dressed. When I now say it to people, they look at me gone out. Don't know if anyone else has ever come across it?

My Grandma used to tell me to 'frame' if she was trying to get me to do summat when I was little, e.g. if she was trying to get me dressed. When I now say it to people, they look at me gone out. Don't know if anyone else has ever come across it?

hiya my dad used a similar expression, like if i was doing something and getting better at it he would say"nar that framin" or come on frame up, the other was if a burgler was aressted he'd be in the frame for a robbery.
what about, bend the bl--ding back. me mum would say i've got to do the black leddin or donkey-stooern the step.if anybody had a chesty cough the older ones when i was young would say, tha wants rubbin darn wi potted meight, or a drippin sanwich, or tie a swetty sock round the nek ,wen das dun das dun,owd on abit, in a sek, nar an ageean, summat abaart im arr carnt stand, summat abarrt im that stiks in me throoat,
mullycrush,tharr little cow-bag.

But then if he's been framed that has a totaly different meaning.....

Was talking to somebody who used to live in Sheffield today and he was telling me he was going to pay his club tomorrow. He meant his catalogue bill, but it bought back the memories because that's what my nan nan used to call it.

you know when you really hurt yourself and it "kills" my oh always laughs at me, surely everywhere says "me head kills"?

My Grandma used to tell me to 'frame' if she was trying to get me to do summat when I was little, e.g. if she was trying to get me dressed. When I now say it to people, they look at me gone out. Don't know if anyone else has ever come across it?

Yes emhibbert my Mum used to say that too, as you say usually when she was trying to get my shoe on when I was little. Isnt it a shame that these old sayings are fading away.:sad:

The mention of 'tutty pegs' reminds me of a saying used by my old father in law. 'Tha' wants ma' peg'. It's a world away from 'tutty peg' territory, but a saying none the less.
Mind you he worked down the pit, and we all know what THEY were like.

hiya if your father in law said that, he was referring to a male organ thats why you never heard a woman say it. yea.

One thing that my parents used to say has always puzzled my OH, They would always call a magazine a"Book" or they would have said "BOOOK" If my Mum asked hmi to pass her wimmins booook he would be looking all over for a proper book till she said "frame will ya its next to thee foot" He would look at her "Gone out" (theres another saying for you) wheres that from.

I can see where your coming from Willybite, but I definitely remember it as PIPPY not puppet..

my mum said "Pippy Show" if something was going a bit awry (skew-whiff? as in "Tha's medd a Reyt Pippy-Show o' that!") or that I or my sister were attempting to go out dressed up or with make-up on. she would declare that we looked a reyt pippy-show.

I often wondered if the shop Pippy's on Cambridge Street was named for that, or if it was that a "Pippy Show" got the name from the shop.


(God! I miss Pippys and the patchouli oil! {hippy juice!})

Remember when coke, lemonade etc etc was called pop and the pop man used to deliver it to your door?

Another one springs to mind...(maybe thats another one...springs to mind!!) and thats when something goes wrong...I tend to say...Gordon Bennet....wonder if this is sheffield talk or just me!! Hubby keeps saying..this gorden bennet bloke has a lot to answer to....anyone else heard that one?

Remember when coke, lemonade etc etc was called pop and the pop man used to deliver it to your door?

My sister still has a pop man come round... in fact she rang me earlier this evening to say he had delivered her some this afternoon...:hihi: And I can remember as a little girl taking the 'empties' back to the chippy and getting a free bag of chips...

Remember when coke, lemonade etc etc was called pop and the pop man used to deliver it to your door?

Yep - at first it came in pint bottles and was delivered by SYDS (South Yorkshire Direct Supplies). Later it came in two-pint bottles from Alpine Soft Drinks who I think took over SYDS. Their pineapple pop was delicious.:)

We had the Corona man come round.

i remember the Barrs (bars?) pop man, and taking the empties back for the deposit :) spendin' it on sweeties!

also the fletchers van, yummy cream cakes!

And how about Worthy's sharra - a plum coloured old coach filled with spice (sweets not curry powder) and probably tons of other stuff, but we were only interested in the spice. We used to call him the Sunday Man but I suppose he went to other areas on different days. He was a moody bloke; maungey one week and jokey the next.
First Job - the misadventures of two 70s Sheffield lads at www.birkett.yolasite.com

Another one springs to mind...(maybe thats another one...springs to mind!!) and thats when something goes wrong...I tend to say...Gordon Bennet....wonder if this is sheffield talk or just me!! Hubby keeps saying..this gorden bennet bloke has a lot to answer to....anyone else heard that one?

Gordon Bennett wasn't a local lad.. see here...

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/gordon-bennett.html

MMMMmmm.. I used to love Jusoda and Dandelion & Burdock, and frozen Jublies in the summer.
Do you remeber the old coaches (sharras) that used to come 'round selling fruit and veg and sweets? They smelled great.

My wife still calls me a gormy bl**der.

Perhaps I've got too much gorm.:|

Good point there Jack, the two words gormy and gomless would appear to be the converse of each other but actually have the same meaning

I can see where your coming from Willybite, but I definitely remember it as PIPPY not puppet..

Could it have been a derivative of "peep show"?
In our family it was always, "Thart mekkin a reyt pippa show o' thissen".

Another delightful phrase of mum's "If eez reight in 'ead I know weer thiz an 'ouseful of 'em"

What about trundering...As in ill trunder off to work,or,the bus went trundering past me.Dont know where i heard this word but use it often..

What about trundering...As in ill trunder off to work,or,the bus went trundering past me.Dont know where i heard this word but use it often..

I always thought it was trundling and that possibly there was a certain type of bus called a trundle bus. So when someone was trundling along it meant that they were moving at a steady pace.

I always thought it was trundling and that possibly there was a certain type of bus called a trundle bus. So when someone was trundling along it meant that they were moving at a steady pace.

Hi that might be it and ive altered it over the years..In fact i think youre right.. Still havent a clue where i got it from:hihi:

Hi that might be it and ive altered it over the years..In fact i think youre right.. Still havent a clue where i got it from:hihi:

hiya i think a lot of words and phrases are changed over time, i nearly did it spelling phrases with an F, anyhow when i was young the word was trundling as trundling along, i've never heard of it being a buses name, in fact there were only buses by name until the bendy bus came along, of course tram,trollie bus; the way we used it was, cum on lets trundle along, like trot, or move a bit faster when walking.
anybody remember modeling with pitch, in the summer when the heat made the tar in between the road blocks bubble up, it sometimes found its way into your hair, then your mother would use butter to try to get it out, if not the scissors would be used.

And how about Worthy's sharra - a plum coloured old coach filled with spice (sweets not curry powder) and probably tons of other stuff, but we were only interested in the spice.
Spice (meaning sweets) is, as far as I can make out, a Sheffield word.
I wonder how that one started...

Even though I've lived down south for 30 years, I still mash a cup o' tea.

I remember the first time we took me Dad to an Indian restaurant, he said, "Aye it's not bad this Indian snap"

When my Father in Law sits in front of the telly complaining about a news item, my Mother in Law says "Geeyore chuntering"

I've only heard" moant" used instead of "mustn't"

I'd almost forgotten, the opposite of mon't is mun.

I spotted it while looking through this :-
http://www.archive.org/stream/sheffielddialect00bywa/sheffielddialect00bywa_djvu.txt

There are a lot of typos in it, but still very interesting. The names intrigue me - Jooa Slitspring, Jack Wheelswarf etc.

The other thing I noticed is the way they pronounce round and pound as rahnd and pahnd, a bloke I used to work with from Eckington still pronounces those words that way.
As in "If tha dun't know spice are sweets, tha't not frum rahnd 'ere"

Spice (meaning sweets) is, as far as I can make out, a Sheffield word. I wonder how that one started...

There's a whole thread about this here (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=86158). Apparently it's only in the Sheffield area that people (or at least, older people) refer to sweets as spice, and it evidently comes from the fact that sweets were made of sugar and spices such as cinnamon, mint etc. The fact that Sheffield has a number of sweet factories such as Bassets and Simpkins probably helped it along.

And how about Worthy's sharra - a plum coloured old coach filled with spice (sweets not curry powder) and probably tons of other stuff, but we were only interested in the spice. We used to call him the Sunday Man but I suppose he went to other areas on different days. He was a moody bloke; maungey one week and jokey the next.
First Job - the misadventures of two 70s Sheffield lads at www.birkett.yolasite.com

Apparently Worthy was a regular all over northern Sheffield and not just Parson Cross.
Did anyone go to replenish their fire with coal from the coil oil?

Apparently Worthy was a regular all over northern Sheffield and not just Parson Cross.
Did anyone go to replenish their fire with coal from the coil oil?

Coil oils and chip oils, we were alliss gooin tut chipoil dahn 't rooad for 3 pennorth wi scraps.
I've no idea where the oil (presumably hole) came from.

As slowpin been mentioned..As in,look at those two slowpin off together? Not sure of the spelling?? Just guessing

There's a whole thread about this here (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=86158). Apparently it's only in the Sheffield area that people (or at least, older people) refer to sweets as spice, and it evidently comes from the fact that sweets were made of sugar and spices such as cinnamon, mint etc. The fact that Sheffield hads a number of sweet factories such as Bassets and Simpkins probably helped it along.

My Mother worked at Simkins before the war....she always referred to it as "spice factory"

Apparently Worthy was a regular all over northern Sheffield and not just Parson Cross.
Did anyone go to replenish their fire with coal from the coil oil?

chip oyle, coal oyle and snooker oyle.....

hiya it's a wooden form like sat on a bench, it's the way you tell them.oreight so we owdens don't talk proper .i remember when i was young i once said thee in front of my grandfather and he pulled me up sharp asking if i meant you, i said yes sorry,he came from lincolnshire.

There's an expression "Nah then, thee thou them as thou's thee". It was a warning to young lads who got over-familiar or cheeky with older workmates. Roughly translated it meant only address someone as 'thou' if they address you the same way. A bit like the French Tu (familiar) and Vous (respectful/polite)!

My wife's great aunt used to say of someone a bit hyperactive "He's like a ferret poppin' out on its keck". (Keck = Hole)

But then if he's been framed that has a totaly different meaning.....

hiya grinder the word i used was frame, not framed, the way i meant was in the frame meaning one of a number,when i said burglar what i meant was he was one of several, being in the frame, also framing was another word for trying.also use thee noddle,weer wer tha went brains wer ginart,at togger it was gee it sum shoe, wellie( i suppose this was when it was raining) ,lether, clobber,

As slowpin been mentioned..As in,look at those two slowpin off together? Not sure of the spelling?? Just guessing

that'd be "sloping" owlschick. there was a cartoon strip a while back ;) about a chap called "Ally Sloper" (a pun on the words alley sloper)

it was used in the sense of sneaking off.

There's an expression "Nah then, thee thou them as thou's thee". It was a warning to young lads who got over-familiar or cheeky with older workmates. Roughly translated it meant only address someone as 'thou' if they address you the same way. A bit like the French Tu (familiar) and Vous (respectful/polite)!

My wife's great aunt used to say of someone a bit hyperactive "He's like a ferret poppin' out on its keck". (Keck = Hole)
Hey algy, I first heard that expression in what used to be Cumberland (now Cumbria). They don't use the 'thee thou' vernacular up there to the same degree as South Yorkshire. If it was used it was deemed to be overly familiar. When I heard it the person to be 'thee'd' at, said 'Don't thee thee thou me, thee thou them that thee thou's thee'.

:hihithat'd be "sloping" owlschick. there was a cartoon strip a while back ;) about a chap called "Ally Sloper" (a pun on the words alley sloper)

it was used in the sense of sneaking off.

Cheers pt...where was the cartoon strip?:)

I can't remember. Sorry. It was a very long time ago! :D

:hihi Cheers pt...where was the cartoon strip?:)Stick this into your browser bar .... http://www.bing.com/search?FORM=IEFM1&q=Ally+Sloper&src=IE-SearchBox ... lots of different sites including a Wiki entry about it. Never had heard of it myself but it started in 1884 according to the site :)

linky appreciated, Natj, thanks.

hiya grinder the word i used was frame, not framed, the way i meant was in the frame meaning one of a number,when i said burglar what i meant was he was one of several, being in the frame, also framing was another word for trying.also use thee noddle,weer wer tha went brains wer ginart,at togger it was gee it sum shoe, wellie( i suppose this was when it was raining) ,lether, clobber,

Willybite.
I was just pointing out that our trans-Atlantic cousins also use the word frame, but in a different context
Myself,as a lad I often remember being told " Nah dat framing"

One thing that my parents used to say has always puzzled my OH, They would always call a magazine a"Book" or they would have said "BOOOK" If my Mum asked hmi to pass her wimmins booook he would be looking all over for a proper book till she said "frame will ya its next to thee foot" He would look at her "Gone out" (theres another saying for you) wheres that from.

hiya i suppose in our younger days we would have been as puzzled calling a book a magazine,my gran used to have, the post,illusterated, and john bull, and she wouldn't call them books, or magazines, they were weekly's,
i never understood why we had so many sunday newspapers at home when i was young i had the job of fetching them,my dad would say each sunday other goin fut papers and fetch me 10 woodbines anall.i was about 10 or 11,at the time
the papers were,empire news, express,dispatch,pictorial,people, reynolds news,news of the world, seven in all.
ps if dad was working sunday he would bring home two scotish sunday papers sunday post and sunday mail one had a childrens section with the broons and oor wully, i remember saying that the spellings are all wrong and his answer was thats are the spayk up theer, not like us.

Willybite.
I was just pointing out that our trans-Atlantic cousins also use the word frame, but in a different context
Myself,as a lad I often remember being told " Nah dat framing"

My Mum too grinder used it like that :)

Stick this into your browser bar .... http://www.bing.com/search?FORM=IEFM1&q=Ally+Sloper&src=IE-SearchBox ... lots of different sites including a Wiki entry about it. Never had heard of it myself but it started in 1884 according to the site :)

Will have a buchers,ta natjack..:)

My Grandma used to use the word 'frame' in the context of her telling us, when we were kids and helping us to put our shoes on to 'frame yer foot'.

don't be so obstrocolous! :D

When my mam is amazed / shocked by something she says '' it makes ya scratch yer head wheeere it dunt itch'' What ??!!!

My dad was a miner an my mam used to 'put his snap up' - that was his pack up sandwiches for his dinner. He'd say has tha dun mi snap lass?
Genius !!

'Asda' sounds a bit like 'aster'. My grandad always said 'aster' (i.e. 'hast thou') and 'wilter' (i.e. wilt thou') instead of 'have you' and 'will you'. So he might say "aster bin ooam?", "aster gorr any fags" or "wilter lend me a bob?" etc.

As well as "aster" there's also "astle" - as in "astle claht thee if tha dunt gee.o'er"..:P

As well as "aster" there's also "astle" - as in "astle claht thee if tha dunt gee.o'er"..:P

ahs'll is a contracture of "Ah-shall" (More correctly "I shall")

My dad was a miner an my mam used to 'put his snap up' - that was his pack up sandwiches for his dinner. He'd say has tha dun mi snap lass?
Genius !!

Always in an Oxo tin.

Another old saying was a tuppny tustard tut in two, what does anyone know what it means? and not often am reight but am wrong again.

Another old saying was a tuppny tustard tut in two, what does anyone know what it means? and not often am reight but am wrong again.

A tuppenny Custard, cut in two:-a bit "wet" and "wobbly" IIRC

I think the second one speaks for itself.

What about... "ni-mind im, luck wier dat gooin"...( never mind him, look where your going). or "SIDDI" for see here
Then there's wat'ch (a wrist clock or some thing you should look at). Spoken as it's spelt, Like wat'er... Not WHOT'CH or WHORT'ER . Ba'th not BAR'TH and WAN'T not WON'T which means, WILL NOT.....

An na mi he'ads urtin........

Yes - 'watch', with the 'a' pronounced as in 'watter'. There's also 'toneet' as in the question "otter gooin' aht toneet?" And then o' cooerce, when it's dark tha puts thi 'leet' on..

'Siddi" can also be 'sithi' - from "see thee".

Stick this into your browser bar .... http://www.bing.com/search?FORM=IEFM1&q=Ally+Sloper&src=IE-SearchBox ... lots of different sites including a Wiki entry about it. Never had heard of it myself but it started in 1884 according to the site :)

hiya natjack seeing your name brought back some memories of an old music hall comedian i remember seeing in the 40s 50s his name was nat jackley he had a long neck but he was funny it was the time of frank randle and the like.not suggesting this is you of course but its odd how a thing can start the memory banks to start up. cheers and thanks

My mate bought a new car, a 4 litre. 2 big leets at front and 2 little leets at back.

Another one from way back,Dumbchuck,someone who says something silly.

5546385]Another old saying was a tuppny tustard tut in two,[/B] what does anyone know what it means? and not often am reight but am wrong again.

OMG:hihi::hihi: I haven't heard that for year and years , I had completly forgotten that. As i've said before, it's such a shame that these old expressions are dying out:sad:

OMG:hihi::hihi: I haven't heard that for year and years , I had completly forgotten that. As i've said before, it's such a shame that these old expressions are dying out:sad:

hiya i think it was a slang expression when food was scarce, to ask for in a pastry shop, a two penny custard pie, can you cut it in two please.
another was he's got such a big scope, his mother fetches 10 pounds ur taiters in is cap.
about this one i don't think it's been mentioned, wy dunt tha tek the ook.geeor wilda, wen tha wer up tha wer up, wen tha wer daarn tha wer daarn, wen tha wer ony aif way up tha wer neether up nor daarn.dusta no dat geein mi a heeard ake,fill de face an stop yappin,nay wats tha mekerit, ar dont mek owt orit,sithe ear al telthe worram torkin abart
if tha wants owt ask fer it if tha dunt ask tha dunt want owt,weers ta bin,arv bin lukin orlor fo thee,wy dunt tha shut de trap an gee ita rest,

Remember when coke, lemonade etc etc was called pop and the pop man used to deliver it to your door?

hiya i remember after the war when tizer started to appear in shops i don't think it was made during the war mind you it was about the price of a pint of beer, mum would make a drink of ginger beer as you could buy a ginger beer plant to make your own,i think you put the plant in a container to ferment, when it was finished you could save the dregs and start it off again, or pass them on to your friends or relatives mind after a while it got a bit too much.
remember that song... gilligillihosenfeffer casinellabogen by the sea i know its not sheffield slang but i remember my aunts singing it in the 40s, a little later it was down in old kentucky where horseshoes are lucky, my pal at school was always whistling this tune this was popular on what we called steam radio before it was just plain wireless.
never know someone might read this thread next thing we'll hear them in totps,

hiya i remember after the war when tizer started to appear in shops i don't think it was made during the war mind you it was about the price of a pint of beer, mum would make a drink of ginger beer as you could buy a ginger beer plant to make your own,i think you put the plant in a container to ferment, when it was finished you could save the dregs and start it off again, or pass them on to your friends or relatives mind after a while it got a bit too much.

It was a ginger root and you used to feed it on yeast & sugar, I think..
Another saying I remember, don't know where it came from, could have been the radio," NO SPEAKA D LINGO "....

If I'm asked to do something which I don't want to do I always say "Am I eckerslike" but I've no idea where the word comes from.

If I'm asked to do something which I don't want to do I always say "Am I eckerslike" but I've no idea where the word comes from.

This was one of my dad's favourites as well. It's "...heck as like" from heck (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/heck).

Is gaggin a Sheffield word ? I remember we were always GAGGIN for a pint....

is gaggin a sheffield word ? I remember we were always gaggin for a pint....

lol or gaspin'

Always in an Oxo tin.

hiya i can honestly say the first time i heard the word snap for your packup it was used by the local lads who went to work down the pit i think it was used by miners from the outlying pit villages not sure ,but thats what i remember, it was always "don't ferget the packup"
remember the mashings, a page of newspaper a desertspoon of tea, two of sugar and fussles or cow and gate condensed milk, screwed up tight all together.##

hiya i can honestly say the first time i heard the word snap for your packup it was used by the local lads who went to work down the pit i think it was used by miners from the outlying pit villages not sure ,but thats what i remember, it was always "don't ferget the packup".

I thought snap was a North Notts expression.Packing up is what we take to work,with a couple of "mashings"

"Snap" was a term used by miners so it was heard in Barnsley & Notts. areas among others, it was taken in to work in a "snap tin".

Duffems

This was one of my dad's favourites as well. It's "...heck as like" from heck (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/heck).

But we don't always sound our aitches do we? So is my eckerslike OK?

Maybe eckaslike would be better..;)

lol or gaspin'

Nay Maxine, you were gaspin for a fag..

Another one was " lolla gaggin " !!!! WHAT ON EARTH WAS THAT ?

Nay Maxine, you were gaspin for a fag..

Another one was " lolla gaggin " !!!! WHAT ON EARTH WAS THAT ?

lollygagging was sort of gazing around, gormlessly and purposelessly (hehe) "cloudgathering" as some would call it.

hiya i think it was a slang expresion when food was scarce, to ask for in a pastry shop, a two penny custard pie, can you cut it in two please.


Well, there's an australian song from the 20's "I like a tuppenny tustard tut in two", perhaps the song was popular over here before the war and the phrase just hung around - the aliteration "tustard tut" is the same.

As da got any"DOSH" ?
Nayow am "SKINT".
Oh. wi carnt guh to "FLICKS" den.
Why, ant dah got owt in di "SKY ROCKET" ?
Owny fluff...

A bit o' biting on. A little snack to keep you going till mealtime.

A bit o' biting on. A little snack to keep you going till mealtime.

I'd forgotten about "a biting on", it was a snack to put you on until mealtime.
My 86 years old mother-in-law is allus 'avin a bitin' on.

Another one was eating a snack to "fill 't corners", a bit like a "biting on"!

Nay Maxine, you were gaspin for a fag..

Another one was " lolla gaggin " !!!! WHAT ON EARTH WAS THAT ?
ok

fag=gaspin

tea=gaggin lol

we always said lalli-gaggin' = time wasting, staring into space...

How did a cigarette become a fag ?...

Don't tell me people used to smoke faggot's a one time :confused:

Another one, - Tab-end

How did a cigarette become a fag ?...

Don't tell me people used to smoke faggot's a one time :confused:

Another one, - Tab-end

found this on another forum...."the origin of "fag" to mean cigarette and gay man are similar because, as someone mentioned, it originally came from kindling, and progressed to gay man because sodomites and such were burned for their crimes against nature and all that. The fag to mean cigarette origin is obviously due to burning a cigarette like one might burn kindling." :huh:

found this on another forum...."the origin of "fag" to mean cigarette and gay man are similar because, as someone mentioned, it originally came from kindling, and progressed to gay man because sodomites and such were burned for their crimes against nature and all that. The fag to mean cigarette origin is obviously due to burning a cigarette like one might burn kindling." :huh:

Interesting, but I would have thought that the practice of burning people had long since gone before the cigarette became popular, Personally I would be more inclined to look to Public Schools for the answer...

As da got any"DOSH" ?
Nayow am "SKINT".
Oh. wi carnt guh to "FLICKS" den.
Why, ant dah got owt in di "SKY ROCKET" ?
Owny fluff...

hiya the demise of a lot of the sheffield slang words was just after the war when sheffielders were away they were influenced by the foreigners in the british army eg southerners,,,, they came back using gobldigook instead of proper english like what we tork an unerstand . as like apples and pears and sky rocket, in the early 50s young blokes started using and talking like cockneys thats how these words were stopped being used.

Telegraph or Telephone poles.:|

TALLYWAG POLE:

I remember this as the name for a "telegraph pole" ! It's the wooden telephone pole that stands on our streets and carries the cables for our telephones.

hiya the demise of a lot of the sheffield slang words was just after the war when sheffielders were away they were influenced by the foreigners in the british army eg southerners,,,, they came back using gobldigook instead of proper english like what we tork an unerstand .like apples and pears and sky rocket, in the early 50s young blokes started using and talking like cockneys thats how these words were stopped being used.

around where i lived the pubs customers had their own way of saying where they were going for a drink eg,, we're going in harvey floods,dog,two steps, wesh,gillies,eliotts,bill gleads,it was a few years later that i had to think the real names of some of these pubs.this was all over town years ago like mucky duck, and low drop, and powie smiths,oddies.

having read some of the posts on smoking some smokers complain about the cost of their cigs,well i know from experiance when i smoked 33 years ago, a smoker woudn't throw away half a cig as they do today,thay couldn't afford to, another thing you dont see men picking tab ends up in the street as you used to,they would have a birthday today

When my father broke wind, he'd say "Good ars*!" rather than "Good arrer".

So did my mother! She also used to say "it's a poor arse that can't rejoice"..:o

Thread's merged

TALLYWAG POLE:

I remember this as the name for a "telegraph pole" ! It's the wooden telephone pole that stands on our streets and carries the cables for our telephones.

And gassys, even today I still call street lights Gas-lamps, but then I get gales of laughter when I call the Radio the Wireless as well...

And gassys, even today I still call street lights Gas-lamps, but then I get gales of laughter when I call the Radio the Wireless as well...

My mum still goes to the post office to pay the 'electric' light bill:loopy:

And gassys, even today I still call street lights Gas-lamps, but then I get gales of laughter when I call the Radio the Wireless as well...

I also get laughed at for listening to the wireless.Mind you,I'm not going to wittle myself about it!

I also get laughed at for listening to the wireless.Mind you,I'm not going to wittle myself about it!

Thank god for that, thought I was the only one.
I still have a record player, in fact untill recently I had a radiogram, remember those?

And gassys, even today I still call street lights Gas-lamps, but then I get gales of laughter when I call the Radio the Wireless as well...

hiya grinder around 1957 i was working on cecil rd highfields, you have written about gaslamps, well there was one at the end of this road, and it was always lit ,i mentione this to my mate a bricklayer on the job, and he said this was normal, whan i asked him why he said it was piped to the sewer and it was burning off gas from the sewer and if it showed a very bright light the sewer gas was at a high level, i never found out if this was right.

... burning off gas from the sewer and if it showed a very bright light the sewer gas was at a high level, i never found out if this was right.

Quite right - see here (http://alancordwell.co.uk/misc/webb.html).

Quite right - see here (http://alancordwell.co.uk/misc/webb.html).

hiya hillsbro thanks for info.

hiya grinder around 1957 i was working on cecil rd highfields, you have written about gaslamps, well there was one at the end of this road, and it was always lit ,i mentione this to my mate a bricklayer on the job, and he said this was normal, whan i asked him why he said it was piped to the sewer and it was burning off gas from the sewer and if it showed a very bright light the sewer gas was at a high level, i never found out if this was right.

I live about 50 yards away from the one on Stewart Road. Thought someone had bought it as an ornament and planted it there. Learned something new. Great. Will explore when I get the chance. Thanks for the info.

Ooh she's a 'fose 'erb' was a favourite of my Mums :hihi:
I still say it :hihi:Never hear anyone else use it though, is anyone else familiar with it

I live about 50 yards away from the one on Stewart Road. Thought someone had bought it as an ornament and planted it there. Learned something new. Great. Will explore when I get the chance. Thanks for the info.
I can remember a mate of mine once walking into one. For some reason he sempt to think it were my fault....

"Dis nowt as queer as folk"

The nick-names we had for packing-up we took to work, were pink-lint for boiled ham,mouse meat for cheese and potted dog for potted meat.Anyone got any more.

The nick-names we had for packing-up we took to work, were pink-lint for boiled ham,mouse meat for cheese and potted dog for potted meat.Anyone got any more.

(Presumably because of the joke,) We called Luncheon meat "truncheon meat".

Meat and potato pie was "Meyt an' Chatty-eye"

The nick-names we had for packing-up we took to work, were pink-lint for boiled ham,mouse meat for cheese and potted dog for potted meat.Anyone got any more.

Down the pit we had 'snap'.

I can remember a mate of mine once walking into one. For some reason he sempt to think it were my fault....

"Dis nowt as queer as folk"

It was the one on Kent rd he walked into.
Remember there was two big ornamental gas lamp in front of the Norfolk Park entrance on Granville Rd. don't know if there still there,but always thought they were sewer gas burners ....are they not ?
PS.
Can't remember, have we had the one "Wide as Wicker archers" ....

The nick-names we had for packing-up we took to work, were pink-lint for boiled ham,mouse meat for cheese and potted dog for potted meat.Anyone got any more.

Awwwwww potted dog. That's something else not sold dahn south. I love potted dog and plain crisp sndwiches.

I miss potted dog 'n all, the nearest we come to it here in the Fens is pate, no comparison. I also like a crisp butty. Stems from my days at Nether Edge Grammar when we used to buy a bread cake at the corner shop and hollow it out before stuffing it with crisps.

What about scollop's, in place of chips slicers of fried potato...

Another I remember, don't know if it's a Sheffield saying or an Army one.
If I had my shoulders hunched my dad used to say " Tha's got Charlie on the back agean" .
Any one else come across this one..?

There are threads about scallops and proper fishcakes - things I also miss dahn 'ere.

My dad used to make scallops but as I recall, they were slices of potato dipped in batter and then fried. A bit like the fishcakes of my youth which were two slices of potato with a few crumbs of fish in between, dipped in batter and deep fried.

Mike

I think having Charlie on ones back is the equivalent of the southern expression "to have the hump". There also used to be an expression for someone whose trousers were too short "eyup 't cats deyud", similarly a woman whose petticoat showed below her dress, "Charlie's deed"

Mike

'If tha' can't fieght, wear a big 'at'.
This could've been said to Wyatt Earp by one of the Clantons, just before the OK corral turn out.

Woman showing her under skirt "She's got weshin aat"

What ever happened to rag week and the Star walk ?
Both a big part of Sheffield culture ...

Eyup, potted meyt was always called potted dog at our house and black pudding was black dag

What about scollop's, in place of chips slicers of fried potato...

Another I remember, don't know if it's a Sheffield saying or an Army one.
If I had my shoulders hunched my dad used to say " Tha's got Charlie on the back agean" .
Any one else come across this one..?
I remember that one about the Charlie

Eyup, potted meyt was always called potted dog at our house and black pudding was black dag

... and corned beef was corned dog..:)

I am joining this well into the thread - have you had:
"Don't tell yer Grandma 'ow to suck eggs"

means:
"Listen young man, I have been doing this job for many years now and I don't need a young upstart like yourself telling me that you know how to do my job better than me"

I found myself using a saying today that I haven't done for years. 'Turn', as in 'You're a turn', or something like 'He's a bit of a turn.' Meaning a character or someone who makes you laugh.

hiya can you remember the different names used if somebody died, there was, is deed,or popped his cloggs,or his deeard,or is pegged it,or his turned his tooers up, or his kippered it,or gon tu meet his mekker,or kicked the bucket a bit morbid i know but these were sayings when i was young, ee wer on is last legs yesterdy was another.

my mother in law was fond of saying, like going down the clyde on a bike, which meant thas gorr as much chance as catching fork lightning, no chance, bless her cotton socks, i miss my mother in law lol

Woman showing her under skirt "She's got weshin aat"

Down Grimesthorpe we'd say I can see next weeks washing!

What ever happened to rag week and the Star walk ?
Both a big part of Sheffield culture ...
Rag week still happens but not as good as it was don't know if the parade happens now, also last l knew about star walk was when my now 27 year old daughter entered it at age of 11 as part of her primary school team we've got her photos and medal hidden away somewhere in our loft !

Rag week still happens but not as good as it was don't know if the parade happens now, also last l knew about star walk was when my now 27 year old daughter entered it at age of 11 as part of her primary school team we've got her photos and medal hidden away somewhere in our loft !

You've now got the "chugger" types, on Fargate, selling their own rag-mag*, the lying sods have been saying "It's student rag-week" for almost 2 months now...

* not a local Rag-mag:- Not providing a spiderbus for local children, no sebastian toots, nothing. Very naughty of them.

Another local-ish phrase? "Standing there like clem".

don't be mardy - perhaps it should be spealt maardy

Another local-ish phrase? "Standing there like clem".

My mum would say "standing there like souse" but my dad would say "standing there like a gas lamp".

If someone told my dad a story he didn't believe, he would say "Aye - I've heard ducks fart before"..:)

I found myself using a saying today that I haven't done for years. 'Turn', as in 'You're a turn', or something like 'He's a bit of a turn.' Meaning a character or someone who makes you laugh.

TURN, That brings it back Texas..
It's what they used to call the acts on WMCs "Who's turn toneet den"....
You could also have a bit of a turn if your not well, or you can even do some one a good turn....

Whilst lying in bed this morning, thing about my formative years, I recalled that, during WW2, when we had precious few toys, one thing we used to do was to scrawm up a gas lamp and swing on the arms. I have never come across that word away from Sheffield. Also gas lamp was a generic term for any kind of street lamp, regardless of its energy source.

Mike

..You could also have a bit of a turn if your not well... You mean if you're feeling a bit "off o' t' hooks"..:P

You mean if you're feeling a bit "off o' t' hooks"..:P

But if tha were feelin' alreight, tha'd probably say tha were 'fair to middlin' tha knows'.

Whilst lying in bed this morning, thing about my formative years, I recalled that, during WW2, when we had precious few toys, one thing we used to do was to scrawm up a gas lamp and swing on the arms. I have never come across that word away from Sheffield. Also gas lamp was a generic term for any kind of street lamp, regardless of its energy source.

Mike

I use that word scrawm or scrorm now to the kids as in stop scrorming about on the sofa...:D

I use that word scrawm or scrorm now to the kids as in stop scrorming about on the sofa...:D

Tha't reight - when I were a nipper I were allus scroamin abaht..:P

Scroamin, That's a tozzin word.
Did a lot of that when I were playing mabs.....:hihi:

Scroamin, That's a tozzin word.
Did a lot of that when I were playing mabs.....:hihi:

Playin' mabs!

Did you have - "Nugs up, knees high, no bomb drops.

some times it was ringy but nee high allus at scoyl that worrin leag but friendlys wer ringy cus thi wer no feytin like at scoyl cheers all the world is on a reel of cotton lol

'Fog go' - first claim to start game. 'Oily' - other player's mab is in the hole and claimed.

All this has put me in the mood for a game of Tiggy bob daahn.

Those were the days.
Short trousers with bracers ,(snake belt optional ) bicycle stocking, blazer, jerkin, or woollen jumper, double breasted jacket for best.
Ups!! forgot.
Tie, vest, and those under pants without elastic in the top, just loops that went over your bracers buttons.
Oh and scabby knees......Happy days....

And what did they call those navy-blue raincoats, was it Bilberry or some thing

All this has put me in the mood for a game of Tiggy bob daahn.
I prefered -finger ,thumb or a rusty bum.

I use that word scrawm or scrorm now to the kids as in stop scrorming about on the sofa...:D

I say "orming" so did I lose the "scr" along the way?

"You won't get nowt if yer don't stop whittling"......if I didn't ask, how would they know what I wanted was my thoughts.

All this has put me in the mood for a game of Tiggy bob daahn.

That was for kids in infant school, juniors progressed on to 'tiggy off ground' or 'tiggy off edgestewens'

And what did they call those navy-blue raincoats, was it Bilberry or some thing


*do you mean "Burberry"?


I remember coats called Gabardines, which came in navy blue or bottle green, usually, with a black-watch tartan lining.

I can't quite remember, did they all have a hood which buttoned off? My navy blue one did.

Does anyone know the meaning of `ee enky?'
My grandmothers family came from the swinton area.

I prefered -finger ,thumb or a rusty bum.



I used to love that too!! loads of us used to play it in the evening!!!

Those were the days.
Short trousers with bracers ,(snake belt optional ) bicycle stocking, blazer, jerkin, or woollen jumper, double breasted jacket for best.
Ups!! forgot.
Tie, vest, and those under pants without elastic in the top, just loops that went over your bracers buttons.
Oh and scabby knees......Happy days....

And what did they call those navy-blue raincoats, was it Bilberry or some thing

The first paragraph sounds a bit like me back then, but UNDERPANTS? It was 'commando' or nothing. (And there was nothing).

I say "orming" so did I lose the "scr" along the way?
My Dad used to use both in the same sentence "Geeyore ormin and scrormin on that settee will tha"

Another one I've just remembered. Me Dad was a chimney sweep and I once helped him dump some soot at the council depot. He said "be careful when thy empties that sack cos it'll tend to puther"

Another one I've just remembered. Me Dad was a chimney sweep and I once helped him dump some soot at the council depot. He said "be careful when thy empties that sack cos it'll tend to puther"That one's actually in the O.E.D. - "Puther or pother (dial.) - to move or pour in a cloud, as smoke or dust"..:)

hiya remember the school caps, i always wanted one, some of the lads had them they were grey,navy blue deep maroon,l then came the cubs caps, then the leather pilots helmets with the rings of a kind of plastic around both ears for the earphones i think these were from war surplus stores, the one i finished up with was i think from a Russian surplus store.

That one's actually in the O.E.D. - "Puther or pother (dial.) - to move or pour in a cloud, as smoke or dust"..:)
Cheers for that Hillsbro, I always thought he'd made that word up.

You mean if you're feeling a bit "off o' t' hooks"..:P

Not me, I were Badley........:gag:

*do you mean "Burberry"?


I remember coats called Gabardines, which came in navy blue or bottle green, usually, with a black-watch tartan lining.

I can't quite remember, did they all have a hood which buttoned off? My navy blue one did.

That's the one Burberry, bit posh them...
My dad got me a transport mac, the blue water proof one that tram drivers used to wear..
Problem with them was your clothes were as damp when you took them off as they would have been with out them.............

Any one remember the difference between "PERISHING" and "PERISHER" in old Sheff.?

Any one remember the difference between "PERISHING" and "PERISHER" in old Sheff.?

Perishing - Meaning it is very cold

Perisher Meaning someone who is a bit of a rogue
Or Someone who is a rather careful with their money
as in Tight Perisher.

Perishing - Meaning it is very cold

Perisher Meaning someone who is a bit of a rogue
Or Someone who is a rather careful with their money
as in Tight Perisher.

there was a cartoon strip in the Daily Mirror called The Perishers, with Marlon, Maisie, Wellington, Boot, and Baby Grumplin', and friends.

(They ceased being published in 2006, after 49 years)

That was for kids in infant school, juniors progressed on to 'tiggy off ground' or 'tiggy off edgestewens'
We'd play tiggy gas lamp, tiggy garden, tiggy bus stop, I've lost count of the places I've been tigged, or is is tug?

hiya where i lived when tha wer perished tha wer cowd ,nar den wen da wor a perisher tha wer tite fisted eg dont gi an dunt lend. a tite bl....r

brought it back to me, when i was growing up in a little old house with no central heating,just a small open fire with an oven at the side when i went to bed mum would put oven plate or a fire brick wrapped in an old cardigan or like in bed for me.
another my nan always had an old iron kettle with a marble or ball bearing in it she always kept it full of water she would transfer to a smaller kettle for her cuppa, it saved on gas i suppose.

I remember me mam and dad having a gas fire put in the kitchen. There was a little spring loaded grill on the front that you put bread in to make toast. If we were on time in a morning we'd get bread toasted on 2 sides. if we'd owerlain we'd get it toasted on one side. I liked to have the none toasted side buttered (or was it marged?).

I remember me mam and dad having a gas fire put in the kitchen. There was a little spring loaded grill on the front that you put bread in to make toast. If we were on time in a morning we'd get bread toasted on 2 sides. if we'd owerlain we'd get it toasted on one side. I liked to have the none toasted side buttered (or was it marged?).

I preferred dripping with some of the brown from the bottom and some salt.

I preferred dripping with some of the brown from the bottom and some salt.

Also known as the "goodness"

We'd play tiggy gas lamp, tiggy garden, tiggy bus stop, I've lost count of the places I've been tigged, or is is tug?

there's tiggy stand-still, tiggy ball...

there's tiggy stand-still, tiggy ball...
Tiggy Legge-Bourke, Tiggy Butler.

A sliced white loaf, a salt cellar and a bowl of beef dripping, heaven!

Did anyone else play De Lavio?, if thats how it's spelled. It was a kind of team hide-and -seek, but, on the move. A good game could last for hours.
...and playing British Bulldog in the gym at Carter Lodge, when the weather was so bad that they wouldn't even turn a schoolboy out, let alone a dog. Gym teacher was Woody.
Before him it was Hayter. Woody had a cut down cricket bat he used to call his 'bottom basher'.........how times have changed.

Did anyone else play De Lavio?, if thats how it's spelled.


Delallio, I think it was called.

Also, we used to do a strange weaving "dance" to a song," the big ship sailed on the alley-alley oh", which involved us ending up with crossed arms (like "Auld Lang Syne") joined up in a circle.

Delallio, I think it was called.

Also, we used to do a strange weaving "dance" to a song," the big ship sailed on the alley-alley oh", which involved us ending up with crossed arms (like "Auld Lang Syne") joined up in a circle.

We called it Delevio.

We called it Delevio.

Apologies, Kidorry, yes, you are quite correct. I'm having a senior (Or is it a "Blonde"?) moment.

delallio (well Dellaglio?) is the rugby player! Duh! hehe.

*Stands, chastened!*

I always thought it was delavio

A sliced white loaf, a salt cellar and a bowl of beef dripping, heaven!

My brother used to put marg on the bread before the dripping. :gag:

Delallio, I think it was called.

Also, we used to do a strange weaving "dance" to a song," the big ship sailed on the alley-alley oh", which involved us ending up with crossed arms (like "Auld Lang Syne") joined up in a circle.

We called it Delevio.

We called it 'de alley alley oh'. Our dance started off with eveyone holding hands but not in a complete circle and the leader would weave though another pairs arms and we'd all follow until we were all facing outwards. Then the leader would weave again and we'd all end up facing inwards.

I preferred dripping with some of the brown from the bottom and some salt.

I hated dripping but my brother loved it. I'd starve rather than have bread n dripping.

I can remember being partial to the odd condensed milk sarnie as a kid, and being addicted to a bowl of boiled macaroni in milk with sugar for my breakfast ....

The farmers got a wife, the farmers got a wife...ee ahh allio, the farmers got a wife....
The farmers got a bull, the farmers got a bull....ee ahh allio the farmers got a bull.....etc etc etc.
That's how I remember it. (Maltby St School playground, 1947-1957) :hihi:

The farmers got a wife, the farmers got a wife...ee ahh allio, the farmers got a wife....
The farmers got a bull, the farmers got a bull....ee ahh allio the farmers got a bull.....etc etc etc.
That's how I remember it. (Maltby St School playground, 1947-1957) :hihi:

and we all bashed the one in the middle when it came to, "We all pat the dog, we all pat the dog......."

and we all bashed the one in the middle when it came to, "We all pat the dog, we all pat the dog......."

:hihi: That's the one but I think I was getting it confused with "The big ship sailed up the Alley alley oh...the alley alley oh" I thought I'd cracked that one but I hadn't had I :confused::roll:...sorry, as you were.

:hihi: That's the one but I think I was getting it confused with "The big ship sailed up the Alley alley oh...the alley alley oh" I thought I'd cracked that one but I hadn't had I :confused::roll:...sorry, as you were.

The one you're thinking of is:

The big ship sails on the ally-ally-oh, the ally-ally-oh, the ally-ally-oh,

Oh, the big ship sails on the ally-ally-oh, on the last day of September.

The captain said it will never, never do, never, never do, never, never do,

The captain said it will never, never do, on the last day of September.

The big ship sank to the bottom of the sea, the bottom of the sea, the bottom of the sea,

The big ship sank to the bottom of the sea, on the last day of September.

We all dip our heads in the deep blue sea, the deep blue sea, the deep blue sea,

We all dip our heads in the deep blue sea, on the last day of September
Regards,
Duffems

and we all bashed the one in the middle when it came to, "We all pat the dog, we all pat the dog......."

Sorry Duffems wasnt it "the dog wants a bone etc" Then "we all pat the bone" Then "the bone is left alone etc" noone wanted to be the bone 'cos you got hit really hard on the head :hihi:My favourite was always "what time is it Mr Wolf" when you had one person whowas "it" or "Mr Wolf" and the rest stood a bit away asking what time it was and the wolf had to say "oneo'clock or two'clock etc till the other kids got near theN it was "DINNER TIME" and you had to run away before the Wolf caught you and you were "it":hihi::hihi:

Sorry Duffems wasnt it "the dog wants a bone etc" Then "we all pat the bone" Then "the bone is left alone etc" noone wanted to be the bone 'cos you got hit really hard on the head :hihi:My favourite was always "what time is it Mr Wolf" when you had one person whowas "it" or "Mr Wolf" and the rest stood a bit away asking what time it was and the wolf had to say "oneo'clock or two'clock etc till the other kids got near theN it was "DINNER TIME" and you had to run away before the Wolf caught you and you were "it":hihi::hihi:

What about "Grandmother's Footsteps"? Wasn't that played similarly to "What Time is it Mister Wolf?"

I have vague memories of "Giant-steps", and "Fairy steps" in this game...?

I liked playing Kick can hoping to hit someone when you kicked it.

do anyone remember (in and out the windows)when you would form a circle and others would dance and sing i/a/o/t/w/another i vaguely remember orange and lemons, and musical chairs, all at play centre when i was 6 , 65 years ago.

do anyone remember (in and out the windows)when you would form a circle and others would dance and sing i/a/o/t/w/another i vaguely remember orange and lemons, and musical chairs, all at play centre when i was 6 , 65 years ago.

"In an' out the windows,

In an' out the windows,

In an' out the windows,

As we have done before!!"

what about "in and out the dusty bluebells?"