can anybody remember calling left handers Keggies?

can anybody remember calling left handers Keggies?

hiya never heard that one but we would call them kack handed, or a dolly posh.how about this one that has just come to me anyone who talked a lot they have too much slavver. and daart a gobby what about butn the lip or al butn it fo thee. tek thee ook an keep the noorse aart tha nows nowt.
haypny, threpny bit, tanner, bob, too bob ,hayf a crown, hayf a nikker, nikker,( i never held a white five pound note). football, we'd call togger, nar den dee weears da bin. arv bin tu enks fishin,is dem allda cort bullheeards an tadpoles. . conk, lugoils, crust, foreard, feeat, left peg, or pin, stop pikin the nooars or els itll drop off, stop pikkin de nooars orels the brains al cum darn, orels al clip thee rowndt eeroil,spittin wi rain, rain rain goo away cum anuther weshin day, my mates mum would say to him, tek jug and fetch me a gill fromt corner shop, munnis in me perse and i now ow much is in cus ive cownted it,face as long as a fiddle.
just thought, ,give thee a clip,back hander,bunch o fives, nuckle sandwich
i don't know if these are sheffieldish words but we would use them when i was young

anyone who went to prison woud be int nick or int peddler,or darnt line,

hiya never heard that one but we would call them kack handed, or a dolly posh.how about this one that has just come to me anyone who talked a lot they have too much slaver.

Or "More rattle than a can o' mabs!"

or in Barnsley a bread cake being a tea cake-pronounced "tear cake"

no, it's "tee-a cake" , not "tear cake"

Not just Sheffield I know but where does MUM & DAD come from ?

Hey Grinder in my time it wasn't mum and dad it was mam and dad or thi (thy) muther and father (pronounced as in fan). As the lads got older it was mostly and ah owd fella for their dad, or towd (the old) fella.
Dors.

I never heard this in Sheffield but it's quite common here in North Lincs.

That explains it then Hillsbro..my Gran's family, I believe, are originally from the Lincoln area.I remember visiting my Gran's cousin many years ago whose house backed onto the River Witham...

Whats a wazzack

Ccan anyone tell me what mi mam meant when she called somebody a "sooner"

Ccan anyone tell me what mi mam meant when she called somebody a "sooner"I still say that sometimes! It means a fool, I always thought it did anyway.

Someone with too much slaver or who was slavering, was usually being cheeky or confrontational. "Don't gee me any of thi slaver" "He kem rahnd eer slavering at our owd fella, buree dint stand fer it, soon sent im tut right about wi a flea in is eer"

I do miss hearing the old dialect, there was something comforting about it.

Ccan anyone tell me what mi mam meant when she called somebody a "sooner"

My Mum used to say this and she told me it was short for " he was born three weeks too soon" or in other words "a sooner" meaning they were a little slow due to being born premature. She usually used to say this when she had ribish service in a shop and I would bcrawling out of the door with embarrasment. Also along those lines, does anyone remember "gormey?"

remember Gormless, gormey is probably a shorter version

I've noticed Sheff_speak has a strangely international flavor to it for instance.
French;
Well ah,
On de bike.

Russian.
Geroff.

Arabic.
As e binin,
Al cidi deer den.

Chinese.
Who washy she we washy we er sen

Whats a wazzack

i think the word is wassock,or wazzock,

I've noticed Sheff_speak has a strangely international flavor to it for instance.
French;
Well ah,
On de bike.

Russian.
Geroff.

Arabic.
As e binin,
Al sidi deer den.

Chinese.
Who wer sh
e we washy we er sen

hiya grinder
dunt tha think wiv gorrenuff wee ar own sheffieldish weeart us avintu think abart other fooerkses way u torkin, cheers grinder, remember your bonse, bonse cover (cap) crust, or noddle or napper. and your earoil,lugs, lugoil. and your lamps,blinkers clock, dial,(face) cake oil(mouth). mowthall mity, clever dick, shut the trap orels i'll githee a fat lip, that a noodle (summat wrong upstairs) . the throyt. thee eyes ar bigger than the belly. and gormy, gormless, hayf baked,trundle along . no gerrup an gu. remember the shirehorses pulling the L.N.E.R.... L.M.S, railway drays, to us at the time they were all called dobbin, they used to pickup goods from the brushworks on our road, very rare to see a lorry then. wb ha ha.

Whats a wazzack

What as in "tha gret big Parrot faced spornnie eyed Wazzack" of Tony Capstick fame......:huh:

My Mum used to say this and she told me it was short for " he was born three weeks too soon" or in other words "a sooner" meaning they were a little slow due to being born premature. She usually used to say this when she had ribish service in a shop and I would bcrawling out of the door with embarrasment. Also along those lines, does anyone remember "gormey?"
I've not heard the term 'sooner' for years. Your explanation sounds better than my own understanding of the word. I always thought it meant 'layabout'.

I've not heard the term 'sooner' for years. Your explanation sounds better than my own understanding of the word. I always thought it meant 'layabout'.I did wonder what it was derived from.
and I agree, that does make sense, as I thought it meant someone who was either a bit gormy or an idiot. The saying seemed to be "trying to make a sooner out of me" or "does she think I'm a sooner" Lol, maybe he came down on the up train! ;)

What as in "tha gret big Parrot faced spornnie eyed Wazzack" of Tony Capstick fame......:huh:

Tony Capstick did make the phrase "Great big spawny-eyed, parrot-faced wassock!" very popular back then, thanks to "Capstick Comes Home".

(I have to say I preferred "Sheffield Grinder", the flip-side of that single.)

A sooner is someone with good common sense.It's bassed on the story of the bloke who had a really good dog."what sort is it"his mate asked."It's a sooner". "A sooner?"replied the mate."Aye,he'd sooner eat meat than mustard"

Tony Capstick did make the phrase "Great big spawny-eyed, parrot-faced wassock!" very popular back then, thanks to "Capstick Comes Home".

(I have to say I preferred "Sheffield Grinder", the flip-side of that single.)

Yes that was from " The stirrings in Sheffield on a Saturday night" wasn't it.
Another one from the Capstick comes home was " You great big fat ugly wart" He had a way with words our Tony :hihi:

If I made a mistake my dad used to call me "a right PIECAN" , one for girls was "a right LIZZY DRIPPIN"..

Dont you think that sayings like that are great especially when the young parents of to-day cant talk to their children without the f & C word.

Dont you think that sayings like that are great especially when the young parents of to-day cant talk to their children without the f & C word.

Mojo, a member of this forum, was in creases a few months ago when she'd done something a bit daft, and I'd said she was a "Right- narna" for doing it.

That's another phrase I think is far nicer and gentler than "Eff" or "Cee" or the "Bee" words. It's a warm an affectionate comment rather than harsh and aggressive.

"Form" meaning "bench"; I had so completely forgotten this til I read this thread!

As a child in the 70's in the Dearne Valley it was normal to say that someone was "sittin on 'form" . My grandad had a form in his garden, and when we walked round the lanes (hoober stand) we might stop for a bit on the form, but the phrase had erased itself from my memory til I saw it here - thank you!

Dont you think that sayings like that are great especially when the young parents of to-day cant talk to their children without the f & C word.

Those days you were getting near the Knuckle with Bugger lugs...:hihi:

what about someone being a bit silly getting dubbed a "reyt tayter"

My gran used to play a game with my cousins. which involved putting a hanky on the kiddie's head and singing/calling "Tattoes Today!",

I don't know the origin of it, but I do presume it's a pastiche of a market-stall holder calling out his wares. I don't even recall any other family playing that "game", only ours

Remember we used to play Deealio !!! where the heck did that name come from ?

Do you think it was a serious question that your mam used to ask, when after we'd been a bit naughty, she'd say ''do you want your legs rattlin'', I never had enough cheek to ask if it was optional

When I was a Kid the word we used for something that was good, was "Tozzin"

Rammel is actually an old english word for bits of twigs and branches that were required to start a fire.

Has anyone heard of an 'eight foot'? Aparently it means a short cut, the eight foot I knew was the top bit of Berners Road, in between Arbourthorne Road and East Bank Road, just before Hurlfield school on the Arbourthorne.

Has anyone heard of an 'eight foot'? Aparently it means a short cut, the eight foot I knew was the top bit of Berners Road, in between Arbourthorne Road and East Bank Road, just before Hurlfield school on the Arbourthorne.

MY father calls a gennel an "8-foot". from opposite Hurlfield School, you can walk down a number of eight-foots, all the way to the back of the KFC on City Road.

Woodthorpe, Manor and Manor park also have a lot of them, too.

Hi Owlschick - "the cats cods" I think meant "cats paws". My mother used the saying. I think one assumed that the cats paws were "mucky", hence your hands are mucky.

common as muck,daft as a plate a tripe,nor a full quid,wide as wicker arches

My mother used to say " Flaming Heeley" as a mild expletive when something went wrong.

My mum says that too. I've often wondered how it came to be a saying - why Heeley?

Has anyone heard of an 'eight foot'? Aparently it means a short cut, the eight foot I knew was the top bit of Berners Road, in between Arbourthorne Road and East Bank Road, just before Hurlfield school on the Arbourthorne.

In Grimsby an "eight foot" is a gennel (also known as a snicket). In Scunthorpe they talk about "ten foots" so maybe the gennels/snickets are wider there...:rolleyes:

In Grimsby an "eight foot" is a gennel (also known as a snicket). In Scunthorpe they talk about "ten foots" so maybe the gennels/snickets are wider there...:rolleyes:

I was going to say that 10foots are the Lincolnshire version of our gennels. You beat me to it.

If my mum was in a tis she'd say that she didn't know if she was on this earth or fullers.

Does anyone remember as a child calling a "poo" a bobbar? my husband from manchester thinks i am mad as i now refer to this with my children .... go an have a bobbar! lol I hope it is a sheffield-ism and i'm not just weird??

Your not wierd i remember that

Also my uncle used to say "put big light on luv" male female all luv

anybody else remember calling the kerb the coursey edge

anybody else remember calling the kerb the coursey edge
Yes indeed - it comes from the word "causeway".

common as muck,daft as a plate a tripe,nor a full quid,wide as wicker arches

Yes, as wide as wicker arches and also "she's got a face as long as Norfolk Street":)

yes i remember that too, breeches for knickers, kegs for trousers,

Yes, as wide as wicker arches and also "she's got a face as long as Norfolk Street":)But do you know what 'wide' meant in that saying? Someone said to me she thought it meant fat! :D

But do you know what 'wide' meant in that saying? Someone said to me she thought it meant fat! :D

I think wide in this instance means a bit of a Jack the lad or having a lot of fingers in a lot of pies.

Hi Owlschick - "the cats cods" I think meant "cats paws". My mother used the saying. I think one assumed that the cats paws were "mucky", hence your hands are mucky.

"Cods" is a slang term for testicles,so the cats cods is the same as the dogs ********.

I think wide in this instance means a bit of a Jack the lad or having a lot of fingers in a lot of pies.I thought that too, more being 'wide' in the old sense of being wide awake and too clever for your own good. Lol, just shows how the old sayings make little sense to the young uns these days.

got a face as long as Norfolk Street":)

It's a long time since i heard this,my mother always used this phrase if anyone was grumpy....:)

I think wide in this instance means a bit of a Jack the lad or having a lot of fingers in a lot of pies.

Thats correct,someone who is streetwise/jack the lad always referred to as a "wide boy" :)

When I came in after playing out, I was usualy " as black as COIL " .
If I had a mucky neck, you could grow spuds on it, and if I'd been bad mi mum use to say " when di dad gets ooum dat gunner get a rait laropin"

Never did tho.....

What about
Shut thi clack (close your mouth or shut up talking)

If my mum was in a tis she'd say that she didn't know if she was on this earth or fullers.

My mum used to say that too when she was in a tis. I seem to vaguely remember that 'fullers earth' was some sort of clay like cream in a tin that was used on babies' bottoms!

Hi Owlschick - "the cats cods" I think meant "cats paws". My mother used the saying. I think one assumed that the cats paws were "mucky", hence your hands are mucky.

many thanks:)

Going back to the 50's, a saying popular with the drinking classes was 'potted', meaning 'p****d out of their brains. Please excuse my asterisks. I like bazjea's 'Shut thi clack!' not heard that for sometime.

Going back to the 50's, a saying popular with the drinking classes was 'potted', meaning 'p****d out of their brains. Please excuse my asterisks. I like bazjea's 'Shut thi clack!' not heard that for sometime.

Another one commonly used for being "bombed out" (drunk) was... kaylied...pronounced as spelt......do you also remember... katycornered...for something that was not straight,or the proper angle...:)

Another one commonly used for being "bombed out" (drunk) was... kaylied...pronounced as spelt....


I wonder if that has anything to do with "ceilidh" (pronounced "kayley"), the Celtic dancing-cum-party-cum-general excuse for a booze-up.

Another one commonly used for being "bombed out" (drunk) was... kaylied...pronounced as spelt......do you also remember... katycornered...for something that was not straight,or the proper angle...:)

Oh love that one ,katycornered, where could that have come from?Its funny but I heard that only last week in the hairdressers . Also wasn't kaylied from kayli (spelling) which is what we used to call sherbet when I was little. Used to get 2oz of kayli (preferably rainbow) in a little paper bag and spend all day dip into it with a licked finger. :)

how about keck handed ?i think it meant left handed or just clumsy

My mum used to say that too when she was in a tis. I seem to vaguely remember that 'fullers earth' was some sort of clay like cream in a tin that was used on babies' bottoms!

Same here my Mum still says that lol :hihi:

Oh love that one ,katycornered, where could that have come from?Its funny but I heard that only last week in the hairdressers . Also wasn't kaylied from kayli (spelling) which is what we used to call sherbet when I was little. Used to get 2oz of kayli (preferably rainbow) in a little paper bag and spend all day dip into it with a licked finger. :)

And by gum! Didn't that rainbow sherbet stuff stain your fingers?

(my favourite treat was a fresh stick of Rhubarb, plucked from the massive clump at the bottom of my Aunty Mary's cottage-garden, and a twist of sugar, to dip it in! :D ace! Kept me and my sister quiet for ages!)

how about keck handed ?i think it meant left handed or just clumsy

yes, that's right depoix. "Cack-handed" was used in both contexts, for a left-hander (dolly-posh, dolly-handed etc) and for someone a bit clumsy, someone not that dexterous.

And by gum! Didn't that rainbow sherbet stuff stain your fingers?

(my favourite treat was a fresh stick of Rhubarb, plucked from the massive clump at the bottom of my Aunty Mary's cottage-garden, and a twist of sugar, to dip it in! :D ace! Kept me and my sister quiet for ages!)

OOOHHH YESS! I did that too, my Mum would tear off the corner of a paper bag and put sugar in it and we would sit on the back step dipping in ! OH I can taste it now. Me and my OH have just inherited some rhubarb crowns from my brother in law's Dad ,sadly only one seems to have taken but fingers crossed we will be sat on'tback step next year with a little twist of sugar.:D

OOOHHH YESS! I did that too, my Mum would tear off the corner of a paper bag and put sugar in it and we would sit on the back step dipping in ! OH I can taste it now. Me and my OH have just inherited some rhubarb crowns from my brother in law's Dad ,sadly only one seems to have taken but fingers crossed we will be sat on'tback step next year with a little twist of sugar.:D

Oh, boy! Shift over, Mrs G, - I'm coming round! I haven't had a rhubarb stick and sugar-dip in years!!! :D :D :D :clap:

What about those condensed milk sandwiches as well, oh and the Coco and sugar dips...

My dad remembers the rhubarb and sugar....he also says he used to go down the pork shop..(down attercliffe) and ask for a breadcake dipped in the fat off the pork..if there were any cuttings off the meat she used to put them onto the breadcake too...and he says he can remember his dad sending him to the same shop for 4 ha'penny ducks...I presume he meant faggots...he said they were hot and he had to be careful not to spill the gravy they were in...LOL

Also, are Poppo (for horse) and Pappap(car) just Sheffield words? have asked around and I seem to be the only one who remembers them.

God I feel old....:hihi: I remember these names too...I can also remember dogs being called....'bowows' and hands being called 'dannies'...in fact my sons girlfriend whose from barnsley calls her little girls hands 'dannies'..even now...I was amazed when I first heard her say it...thought these sayings had gone out with the ark...

Someone on ere mentioned the word 'buggerlugs' I can remember my uncle calling us kids that...it sounds so much better doesnt it than what a lot of folk call their kids today...I can remember the first time I'd ever heard a woman use the F word..I was gobsmacked...it was when my son 1st went to school when he was 5...god they used to swear..I can remember phoning my mom and telling her..I was sooo shocked...LOL nowadays its just normal language to shout it at anyone isnt it...what a shame...(No I'm not a fuddy duddy...just dont like to hear women especially use language like that..)

Just been talking to my 90yr old Auntie who isn't too well at the moment and she came out with "eeh we all wont purrin ina bag an shakkin up!" Love it!

If we had the face on and we were crying for nothing my mother would say " if you don`t shut up I will give you something to cry for".Another one was when we had the giggles she would say "yes but there will be tears before bedtime".

My mum says that too. I've often wondered how it came to be a saying - why Heeley?

my dad used to say "chuffin heeley palace" when something went wrong.another one was "that as thick as pig ****".

I always thought it was OBSTROPULOUS and that's where the word stroppy comes from.

A derivative was "obstroculous".

If we had the face on and we were crying for nothing my mother would say " if you don`t shut up I will give you something to cry for".Another one was when we had the giggles she would say "yes but there will be tears before bedtime".

Yup. We got that one frequently.

"Shurrup roo-erin' or ah'll gie thi summat ter roo-er for!"

Did your mother/ father ever tell you

"You'll be laughin' on the other side of your face in a minute!"

(Alternatively, we'd get "Ah'll wipe that smile off thi face!" )

Or if I cried, after getting a clip round the ear, my mother'd say

"Roo-er more, tha'll pee less!" and/ or

"I 'an't knocked a fly off thee!"

Yup. We got that one frequently.

"Shurrup roo-erin' or ah'll gie thi summat ter roo-er for!"

Did your mother/ father ever tell you

"You'll be laughin' on the other side of your face in a minute!"

(Alternatively, we'd get "Ah'll wipe that smile off thi face!" )

Or if I cried, after getting a clip round the ear, my mother'd say

"Roo-er more, tha'll pee less!" and/ or

"I 'an't knocked a fly off thee!"



I have never heard that one before LOL Thats a reight gud un!:hihi::hihi::hihi::hihi:

My mum says that too. I've often wondered how it came to be a saying - why Heeley?

hiya when i was young i know that swearing and using the word hell was a no no, it was a word hardly ever used hence the use of heeley ,like flipping heeley instead of effing hell.
what about suff, or snuff grate.and cloowers prop.

pubs names were hardly ever used around where i lived but everybody knew by the landlords eg harvey floods, was the raven, elliotts was the albert, bill gleades was the broomhall tavern,gilchrists .or.gilleys. ??two steps.. ?? wesh, washington, over st phillips rd was the low drop.gray arse ,was the grey horse

My mum says that too. I've often wondered how it came to be a saying - why Heeley?

hiya when i was young i know that swearing and using the word hell was a no no, it was a word hardly ever used hence the use of heeley ,like flipping heeley, not that we were religeous in any way

hiya when i was young i know that swearing and using the word hell was a no no, it was a word hardly ever used hence the use of heeley ,like flipping heeley

Ruddy is another, as in "Shift that ruddy bike" .
But there are still words coming through, in my time a duffer at School was some one not very bright, but I rememer hearing years later if some one got "Dufft under" he got beat up....

I have never heard that one before LOL Thats a reight gud un!:hihi::hihi::hihi::hihi:

That one was a frequent comment from my mother.

My mother was "proper lary". She had an answer for everything. if I, or my sister asked for a drink, mum would say "Get some water!" if we grumbled, she'd repeat, You can have water. Water's what makes the lions roar!"

Speaking of lary, my dad used to call someone a "lary-packet" if they were a bit too cocky/ clever for their own good. :hihi:

What was the other one my dad used? That's itI remember, now!

If someone was lazy or feckless, there idleness would be derided with the comment "Huh! there's more work in a Junior Disprin than there is in him!"

My dad was telling me yesterday he used to say...waters runnin oer tweir...I never heard that one tho...

My dad was telling me yesterday he used to say...waters runnin oer tweir...I never heard that one tho...

d' you mean that river, that's down in't wikker, weer' t'watter runs o'er't weir?"

:hihi::hihi::hihi::hihi:

d' you mean that river, that's down in't wikker, weer' t'watter runs o'er't weir?"

:hihi::hihi::hihi::hihi:

:hihi: :hihi: Thats the one yeh!! :hihi:

Does this one come from sheffield too....if lads shirts were hanging out of their trousers folk used to say....'you'll never be a scowt wi your shirt hangin owt' ??

Does this one come from sheffield too....if lads shirts were hanging out of their trousers folk used to say....'you'll never be a scowt wi your shirt hangin owt' ??

Yes, and if you got both legs caught in one trouser-leg, my granny would chant

"It's shocking,
Missus Bocking,
When you've two legs,
in one stocking!"

Yes, and if you got both legs caught in one trouser-leg, my granny would chant

"It's shocking,
Missus Bocking,
When you've two legs,
in one stocking!"

Oh yeh heard that one before too...there must be thousands of old saying musnt there...just trying to remember them all now...:hihi:

my 5 year old grandaughter had lost the top off her pen last week & was searching all over for it, I found it straight away & said 'What's this, Scotch Mist?' it's something we've always said but only then did I stop & think about what I'd said. So many of the old sayings just roll off our tongues. I've said umpteen times 'I'm sounding more like mi mother every day' (love her to pieces) :hihi:

what about

as tha ad a wesh my old flower

hehehe. reyt funny

what about

as tha ad a wesh my old flower

hehehe. reyt funny

Hey didnt charlie williams used to say that? :hihi: when we were little and we fell down my mom used to say...'oops a daisy'....and when she wanted us to sit still..she would say 'sit down and have a longer ride'..goodness knows where that came from..but now I find myself saying it to our little ones...how crazy's that then...:hihi: :loopy: I also find myself saying if anything doesnt go to plan....'Gordon Bennett'.....hubby keeps saying..hes got a lot to answer to this bloke...LOL

Does this one come from sheffield too....if lads shirts were hanging out of their trousers folk used to say....'you'll never be a scowt wi your shirt hangin owt' ??

My Dad used to sing that to me if my underskirt showed under my dress "you'll never be a scout with your shirt hanging out, ginger your barmy" and also if you showed a bit of under skirt people would say to you "hey up Rogers dead" how random is that:hihi:

here did mythering, and ort hill darn sent FLIPS rooerd,ont maner, darnt markit,darnt mure, stop scrachin de bonce as da got nits or summat.naar den dee orr deer a want want a werd wi dee;, jacked it in , gerrartorrit,get di finger arrt, sowger (soldier).lardheeard,thar mary ellin, tarrar sidee den. kids turday dont no de booern. back uh ar owse remember conkering, scrompin,mummering at new year.

around where i lived were a lot of empty houses during and after the world war 11 these were our playgrounds, we were always told not to go near LAWLERS this was a wreck of a place there was an old static water tank with allsorts in it dead animals and rubbish, scrap, and the like, but it was a magnet to us; me mam would say " wot did arr sey dunt goo on lawlers am a torkin tu mesen,tha dunt lissen" .tha dunt tek aypeth o notis o wot i sey.
anyone who died we would say they'd popped their clogs, or theve pegged it
if you won a bet you'd have had a touch ont popoe's, or the bowows, or doggies.
if you were careful with money you could skin a f..t, or peyl an oring in de pocket.
whar abart, bittin an battin, (eating between meals) ,wats tha no, eyup,
thara dogsbody,
whittling,(worrying)whittle to deeath.

My Dad used to sing that to me if my underskirt showed under my dress "you'll never be a scout with your shirt hanging out, ginger your barmy" and also if you showed a bit of under skirt people would say to you "hey up Rogers dead" how random is that:hihi:

If someone's trousers were a bit short, we used to say " 't cat's deeyd, then, t'flags is at hayf-mast!"

(the cat is dead, then:- the flags are at half-mast!)

where did mythering, and ort hill darn filips rooerd,ont maner, darnt markit,darnt mure, stop scrachin de bonce as da got nits. dee or deer a want dee,

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In our family, it was

"as't'a got chatts?"

"Nayowww. I 'an't!"

"Tha 'an't? Then geeore bluddy chattin'!"

how about keck handed ?i think it meant left handed or just clumsy

Most words for "clumsy" did originally mean left-handed, just as "dextrous" literally means right-handed.

The latin word for left is "sinister," which tells you a lot about how people used to view those of a left-handed persuasion. It's hardly used as a compliment nowadays!

my 5 year old grandaughter had lost the top off her pen last week & was searching all over for it, I found it straight away & said 'What's this, Scotch Mist?' it's something we've always said but only then did I stop & think about what I'd said.


"Scotch mist" is a euphemism for drizzly rain. How, when, and where the usage to point out something glaringly obvious to someone who hasn't seen it, came about, I do not know; but it's widespread across all Britain and dates back several centuries at least.

It's often used when you are pointing out something that refutes a claim made, as well as finding something that someone "can't find;" eg.
"There are no such things as black swans."
(Insert link to picture of black swan)
"What's this then, Scotch mist?"

And by gum! Didn't that rainbow sherbet stuff stain your fingers?

(my favourite treat was a fresh stick of Rhubarb, plucked from the massive clump at the bottom of my Aunty Mary's cottage-garden, and a twist of sugar, to dip it in! :D ace! Kept me and my sister quiet for ages!)

Bet it didn't taste as nice as a stick pinched when 'gooin gaarden sneakin'

God I feel old....:hihi: I remember these names too...I can also remember dogs being called....'bowows' and hands being called 'dannies'...in fact my sons girlfriend whose from barnsley calls her little girls hands 'dannies'..even now...I was amazed when I first heard her say it...thought these sayings had gone out with the ark...

Remember as a child being asked if I wanted a WIDDLE before we went out...
Which brings us to that old classic, WEEWEE!!!
Where on earth does that come from, France ?

God I feel old....:hihi: I remember these names too...I can also remember dogs being called....'bowows' and hands being called 'dannies'...in fact my sons girlfriend whose from barnsley calls her little girls hands 'dannies'..even now...I was amazed when I first heard her say it...thought these sayings had gone out with the ark...

Im 24 and just had a little girl and have got this saying off my mum "get them dannies out of yer mouth" My sister said my mum had made it up but now I know she hadn't lol.

My nan nan (im sure this is very sheffield as you can never buy birthday cards for nan nans) and my mum always say "they went for a reight pearla" meaning they fell or had an accident, anbody else heard that phrase?

Bet it didn't taste as nice as a stick pinched when 'gooin gaarden sneakin'

I suppose it didn't...

Thing is, as pretty much everyone would agree, a "pinched" chip always tastes far nicer than a chip of one's own, and I cannot for the life of me explain why.. it just "does". :D

Im 24 and just had a little girl and have got this saying off my mum "get them dannies out of yer mouth" My sister said my mum had made it up but now I know she hadn't lol.

My nan nan (im sure this is very sheffield as you can never buy birthday cards for nan nans) and my mum always say "they went for a reight pearla" meaning they fell or had an accident, anbody else heard that phrase?

Yes, someone went for a purler, or occasionally, they "went for a burton"

nah them pt i put thee a link on sheffield trams & buses dint a, hop thaz oreight lass:)

If it was good it was tonkin, if it were bad it was rhubarb, an if da were asked how da were goin on, da were fair to middlin,

Yes, someone went for a purler, or occasionally, they "went for a burton"

Going for a burton usually means kicking the bucket, or buying the farm...

To purl, meaning to knock over, spill, overturn ... is very old English, and seems to have disappeared from use except in the phrase "went for a purler." Whether there's any connection with the purl in knitting, which is 'to knit backwards' according to my wife (:huh:) ... I do not know.

My Stannington grandma had three stock phrases which she used at every opportunity.

For a new coat etc. she would say:

"That's a bobby dazzler", or sometimes
.........."That'll keep t' dust out of your eye corners"

..and for a hot bowl of soup etc:

"That'll warm t' cockles of your heart".

I can remember my dad used to call babies in arms Babbie's and toddlers Chabbies...

Reading this thread made me remember something the old men and women used to say when they were surprised (pleasantly) by something "wey, Ah'm capped/capt" Wonder if it came from "captivated" like we might have said "brill" or "fab"?

Another one of my mothers was if we had nowhere to sit.Stick your finger up your backside and sit on your elbow.

Another one of my mothers was if we had nowhere to sit.Stick your finger up your backside and sit on your elbow.lol not exactly an old Sheffield saying though? It sounds a bit wude :)

If brains were gun powder tha wunt have enough to blow di cap off.....:hihi:

If brains were gun powder tha wunt have enough to blow di cap off.....:hihi:

or "wunt have enough ter blow thi noo-ase"

Got a face like a penny kite.If you were looking miserable.

My dad would always sidy the table after we'd eaten.

When a baby was presented to my grandad he would stick his finger in its mouth and say "i cant feel any tutty pegs yet, no steak & chips for thee just yet young un"anybody else heard of tutty pegs?

When a baby was presented to my grandad he would stick his finger in its mouth and say "i cant feel any tutty pegs yet, no steak & chips for thee just yet young un"anybody else heard of tutty pegs?Not tutty pegs, but toothy pegs, or toofy pegs or even peggies. Don't people say these things anymore? It's quite sad, they were all the things that defined baby/toddlerhood from childhood, and made it a special time. Dannies and poddies and bow-wows and pop-poes and going bye-byes and going ta-tas. I'm all nostalgic and dewy eyed now :)

As much use as a Chocolate fire guard or about as good as a two bob horse..

Yes I remember it as tutty pegs, and whatever happend to titty bottles?

My Grandma (Sorry couldn't call her that it had to be Nan Nan)used to say " Blumin Hummer" if something was going wrong & and " I'll rattle thi arse" if tha were being a Divie !!

OMG!! blummin' 'ummer!!!! my {late} dad used to say that, i have never heard anyone else say it!!! many thanks for bringing that smile to my face :)

i always confuse ppl with "snided" (full/busy/packed) many non-sheffielders have looked at me funny over the years for that one!

and tooshie pegs, toothy pegs, we still say that......

OMG!! blummin' 'ummer!!!! my {late} dad used to say that, i have never heard anyone else say it!!! many thanks for bringing that smile to my face :)

i always confuse ppl with "snided" (full/busy/packed) many non-sheffielders have looked at me funny over the years for that one!

and tooshie pegs, toothy pegs, we still say that......

Yep. that was one of Mums too, especially at the seaside."Y shud ave seent beach it were snided" And also "sidey t'table luv" Ohh how I miss my lovely Mum and Dad .

My Grandma , who passed away in 1964 aged 83) always thought people on the TV or radio could see or hear you too. If some one came on she didn't like she would say "I'll jus t go t end o't path till it's gone off" instead of turning it off so she wouldn't offend them! We still use it in our family if anything appalling comes on ( Simon Cowell and X factor I do mean you!)

The mention of 'tutty pegs' reminds me of a saying used by my old father in law. 'Tha' wants ma' peg'. It's a world away from 'tutty peg' territory, but a saying none the less.
Mind you he worked down the pit, and we all know what THEY were like.

I thought it was "tussy pegs"
And what about "cloth ears"?

I thought it was "tussy pegs"
And what about "cloth ears"?

I also remember it as tussy pegs..:hihi:

If you've got your front ones it's 'tutty'. If you ain't, it's 'tussy'.

I thought it was "tussy pegs"
And what about "cloth ears"?

LOL @ cloth ears :)

The mention of 'tutty pegs' reminds me of a saying used by my old father in law. 'Tha' wants ma' peg'. It's a world away from 'tutty peg' territory, but a saying none the less.
Mind you he worked down the pit, and we all know what THEY were like.

Dont know what it means Texas but perhaps thats not a bad thing eh? :Dbut another one keeping to the "peg" theme was " Ahll peg thee a rug" said to you when you'd asked your Mum to do something for you that you ere too lazy to do yourself i.e most things whenn I was a teenager !:hihi:

I thought it was "tussy pegs"
And what about "cloth ears"?

As in "Wesh thi raggy- / rag-ears out!" ?

When my mum had given me a good wash she would say "You're as clean as a new-scraped carrot"..:)

My nan & grandad were a comical pair, if i asked grandad if he knew a certain person he would say "coowerse i know him ees got curly teeth walks backards and spits alot" and when i asked my nan what was for tea she would always say "sh*t wi sugar on",i know it dosnt sound nice but even now it makes me laugh when i think about it.

...when i asked my nan what was for tea she would always say "sh*t wi sugar on"..

My mum used to say this as well. We were so poor we were grateful for the sugar...:P

My dad always used to shout at my grandad to embarass him when he was in a public place like queing at the bar or at the co-op "fatha put di cap on there sackin old uns" dont know why cos he was as bald as a coot aswell.any one else heard this saying is it unique to sheffield?

Poppypoppy talked about breadcakes - well when I first came to live down here in sunny Sussex I went to the local bakers and asked for a couple of breadcakes. Silence. The assistant looked at me as if I'd come from the moon and said "what kind of cake did you want"!!! So I asked again for breadcakes. She still didn't know what I was on about, so I looked around and pointed to "breadcakes". 2 of those said I. "Oh you mean baps" Not where I come from I told her. They sometimes call them rolls too. Rolls are the things you put sausages in for hot dogs. Where have these peole been!!

Poppypoppy talked about breadcakes - well when I first came to live down here in sunny Sussex I went to the local bakers and asked for a couple of breadcakes. Silence. The assistant looked at me as if I'd come from the moon and said "what kind of cake did you want"!!! So I asked again for breadcakes. She still didn't know what I was on about, so I looked around and pointed to "breadcakes". 2 of those said I. "Oh you mean baps" Not where I come from I told her. They sometimes call them rolls too. Rolls are the things you put sausages in for hot dogs. Where have these peole been!!

Hey, you've not got far to go from city center to get a right agument going about bread cakes luv.
another one is what some people call a fishcake...:rolleyes:

I agree - fishcakes now adays are not we call fishcakes eh? These things wrapped in breadcrumbs are not fishcakes. Its the fish between two pieces of potato dipped in batter are the REAL fishcakes. One of my daughters in law who lives in Stafford is also complaining about fishcakes, like dripping its only when she goes to Sheffield from Stafford that she can get her fill of these and of course Hendersons' Relish. mmmmmm................

Poppypoppy talked about breadcakes - well when I first came to live down here in sunny Sussex I went to the local bakers and asked for a couple of breadcakes. Silence. The assistant looked at me as if I'd come from the moon and said "what kind of cake did you want"!!! So I asked again for breadcakes. She still didn't know what I was on about, so I looked around and pointed to "breadcakes". 2 of those said I. "Oh you mean baps" Not where I come from I told her. They sometimes call them rolls too. Rolls are the things you put sausages in for hot dogs. Where have these peole been!!

Exactly the same thing happened to me in the 60s when I went to live in Poole in Dorset! They might have a different name for them in different parts of the country but I have never come across anything like a Sheffield breadcake, absolutely gorgeous, especially with a couple of rashers of bacon in 'em , or even better, dripping!

Someone ought to start educating southerners and take a few lorryloads down there.

As for so called southern fishcakes don't get me started!

Another thing, when I went to live down south there was no decent cod at the chip shops, didn't realise that all the Icelandic cod stayed up north, what a sacrifice I had to make.

And, they are called chips and fish, not the other way round.

haha breadcakes and fishcakes!!

i live in louth at the moment, 5 miles from mablethorpe and lets be honest most of 'em are from sheffield or donny :)

talk about confusion with bread cakes!! i can buy the sheffield star, 1 mile away, but cant buy a breadcake...well i refuse to call them baps, rolls whatever, i once asked for a sausage roll at the bakers and got a ruddy sausage buttie :S

and as for fishcakes...all the chippies round here are run by ppl from rotherham, but i still have to ask for a "yorkshire fishcake" and wait 10 mins for it to be cooked specially...LOL

Another thing I loved as a kid was crab claws, when ever my mum took me into the fish market she used to buy me a load of crab claws wrapped in news paper.
I used to spend a good hour sat on the rug in front of the fire with a hair grip and a pair of nut crackers.....
The white meat especially from the big nippers was magic....

one of my favourite saying is "putt wood in t oil or close dooer (door)? not many people use the sheffield dialect what a shame

one of my favourite saying is "putt wood in t oil or close dooer (door)? not many people use the sheffield dialect what a shame

LOL, wer you born in a barn? nope hospital swinging doors!!

aah memories :)

Wer tha born in a field ? ah wer ah sheffield

ace waste
follow on to that is

nar darn twicker were werer twater runs orr twier

My dad always used to shout at my grandad to embarass him when he was in a public place like queing at the bar or at the co-op "fatha put di cap on there sackin old uns" dont know why cos he was as bald as a coot aswell.any one else heard this saying is it unique to sheffield?
ya i still use it and i live in rotherham now

one of my favourite saying is "putt wood in t oil or close dooer (door)? not many people use the sheffield dialect what a shame
i doand av lived in rotherham 49 years thy call me a thee and thower

years ago when working in a pub, a lady came in with a black eye. as she walked away from the bar to sit down one of the men at the bar referred to her black eye as "a Rovverham engagement ring" i did laugh :)

My Mam always used the expression" like a throttled handbrush", to signify clothes being too tight and uncomfortable, also, she used to say, "get thi lamming gown" when referring to overcoat.

When you copped for summat you dint want you'd been "Dropped on" if you got summat they all wanted you were "Dead Jammy".
You could "Wagg it" from School and no matter where you live you always go down town.

I have a lot of trouble ordering drinks anywhere south of chesterfield, when i ask for a pint & aif o stella they always say what an aif ?

I have a lot of trouble ordering drinks anywhere south of chesterfield, when i ask for a pint & aif o stella they always say what an aif ?

once on a nite out nr wakefield i asked the waitress for a cork (had some wine left in our bottle and wanted to take it home) she returned a few mins later with 1/2 a coke!!!

I could never understand why, if asked the time my grandad would say either five and twenty past or five and twenty to. instead of twenty five past or to the hour.

'He had a face as long as a gasmans mac'
'He's got an 'eead like a set pot'
If I was going about something the wrong way, my Granma' would call me a 'Johnny Greenhorn'

I think Wassock comes from the French wasseau meaning bird. (bird-brain maybe)

I could never understand why, if asked the time my grandad would say either five and twenty past or five and twenty to. instead of twenty five past or to the hour.
'He had a face as long as a gasmans mac'
'He's got an 'eead like a set pot'
If I was going about something the wrong way, my Granma' would call me a 'Johnny Greenhorn'

I think Wassock comes from the French wasseau meaning bird. (bird-brain maybe)

And why is it only those two times that are expressed so?

I never thought of wassock being derived from Oiseau! That's an interesting idea!

I could never understand why, if asked the time my grandad would say either five and twenty past or five and twenty to. instead of twenty five past or to the hour.

'He had a face as long as a gasmans mac'
'He's got an 'eead like a set pot'
If I was going about something the wrong way, my Granma' would call me a 'Johnny Greenhorn'

I think Wassock comes from the French wasseau meaning bird. (bird-brain maybe)
That was one of my Mums! and she usually said it about my OH who had no idea what she meant. You try translating that to your beloved for whom english was a second language let alone "sheffieldish":hihi:

A mouth like a parish oven ,if someone was always talking loudly.

Tha's got deep pockets an short arms.

....aye, 'appen as not an' likes as mebby = probably

The I one I really miss is "Three Ape nce" ,( Three half pence) and why o why do other people call it WORTER, it's WATTER !!! it says so WAT-ER

The I one I really miss is "Three Ape nce" ,( Three half pence) and why o why do other people call it WORTER, it's WATTER !!! it says so WAT-ER

Three ha'pence was the fare to town from Attercliffe, way back when!

In those days nobody asked you to make a cup of tea you were always asked to mash one.

In those days nobody asked you to make a cup of tea you were always asked to mash one.

Or, Lay the table.:hihi::hihi:

'Trump' for Fart ,Flatulence
It would be said to a child "Did You trump"

'More tea, Vicar?'

'Trump' for Fart ,Flatulence
It would be said to a child "Did You trump"

my OH [from darn sarf] says fart! his 6 yr old son says fart!! and sees nothing rude in this.

the word is trump :)

am i wrong?:huh:

Speak up, Brown!

'Trump' for Fart ,Flatulence
It would be said to a child "Did You trump"

'More tea, Vicar?'

"Stop that, Gertrude!"

"Certainly, Aloysious...
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erm, which way did it go?"

Phoo!! :gag: who's blown off ?!!

If my dad was getting frustrated or fed up with something, he'd say he was

browned off with it. I wonder what the origin of that is.:confused:

On the Manor Estate we said 'papper' instead of 'paper'

Phoo!! :gag: who's blown off ?!!

"Them that smelt it, dealt it", as they say, bassmanjack!

Oh yes my Mum and Dad used to say that too and also "thas got more rattle than a can o'mabs " when I was going on about something or making too much noise.

my mum used to say im sure you been vacinated with a gramaphone needle if we chatted too much

i doand av lived in rotherham 49 years thy call me a thee and thower

if i used the word thee or thou id get a clip as my mum would say i havent brought you upmto talk like that and i still get a clip if do it now and i 49 and she still says you are not too big to get a good hiding

What about- Mowching abart. Meaning wandering aimlessly

My mother used to say " Flaming Heeley" as a mild expletive when something
went wrong.

mowching about would be if you was around the house moving from place to place my mum would say what you mowching about for and if you wasnt sat right she would say look how sloven looking you look

Another one for having airs and graces is "Long curtains and short dinners"
My Gran used to tell us to "Stop rantyin' ont' chairs"

look ore at miss prim and proper was a saying too

Also, are Poppo (for horse) and Pappap(car) just Sheffield words? have asked around and I seem to be the only one who remembers them.

i use those words now to my grandchildren piggy jack another

hiya grinder
dunt tha think wiv gorrenuff wee ar own sheffieldish weeart us avintu think abart other fooerkses way u torkin, cheers grnder, remember your bonse, bonse cover (cap) crust or noddle or napper. and your earoil,lugs, lugoil. and your lamps,blinkers cake oil(mouth). mowthall mity, clever dick, shut the trap orels i'll githee a fat lip, that a noodle (summat wrong upstairs) . the throyt. thee eyes ar bigger than the belly. and gormy, gormless, hayf baked,trundle along . no gerrup an gu. remember the shirehorses pulling the L.N.E.R.... L.M.S, railway drays, to us at the time they were all called dobbin, they used to pickup goods from the brushworks on our road, very rare to see a lorry then. wb ha ha.

shut thee cake hole,who rattled your cage,lend us a bob swipe that smile of ya face or ill swipe it off oh god how times change

Do you think it was a serious question that your mam used to ask, when after we'd been a bit naughty, she'd say ''do you want your legs rattlin'', I never had enough cheek to ask if it was optional

my mu would say bleeding legs rattlin i wouldnt dare answer back

Another one of my mothers was if we had nowhere to sit.Stick your finger up your backside and sit on your elbow.

if we had nothing to do my mum would say s--t in your hands and clap it two never did got out of the way and found things to do

My Mam always used the expression" like a throttled handbrush", to signify clothes being too tight and uncomfortable, also, she used to say, "get thi lamming gown" when referring to overcoat.

mine says throttled earwig

If my dad was getting frustrated or fed up with something, he'd say he was

browned off with it. I wonder what the origin of that is.:confused:

my mu in hosp and she saying ha now

If someone is greedy, my family says that they could "eyt two taters more than a pig!"

If someone is greedy, my family says that they could "eyt two taters more than a pig!"
Another one was ...I could eyt a orse an gu back fo saddle,

Another one was ...I could eyt a orse an gu back fo saddle,

yep. "Eyt an 'oss between two bread vans, and come back for the saddle."#


( I liked Lily Savage's take on that saying:- "I could eat a nun's backside through the convent gates" - only she didn't call it a backside!)

The one that sticks in my mind though i wish it wouldnt was when a work friend of mine phoned me and said tell the boss im not comming in today ive been sh**in through the eye of a needle all neet and mi ar*e is like a blood orange tha could lite a fag of it. Nowt like telling it as it is,is there

And why is it only those two times that are expressed so?


The German word for twenty-five is "funf-und-zwanzig;" literally, five and twenty. Since English evolved from the same origins as did German, I suspect that "five-and-twenty" is the older, original number, and "twenty-five" was coined much later.

(Compare "thirteen, fourteen, fifteen" ... which are basically corruptions of "three and ten, four and ten, five and ten...")

If my dad was getting frustrated or fed up with something, he'd say he was

browned off with it. I wonder what the origin of that is.:confused:

I'm fairly sure this comes from cooking; meat gets browned off when it's slightly heated. "Browned off" = getting a little hot under the collar.

shut thee cake hole


It was "pie hole" in my youth but the intent is clearly the same.

Pikelets seems to be a Sheffield/Yorkshire word,every where else it's crumpets. 14 pages in and nobody has mentions Ee by gum, why, because don't know about you lot but i've never heard anybody say it

darra! oh dear! ;) showing your foreigner credentials ;)

Pkelets and crumpets are two different things

Crumpets are about the diameter of a mug rim, and thick.

Pikelets are about the size of a saucer rim, same sort of depth as a crumpet.
(maybe oatcake sized, in diameter)

Has 'mardy' been mentioned? It's a brilliant word. I use a lot but no one dahn south know what I mean. Katie cornered is a phrase that is unknown dahn south.

darra! oh dear! ;) showing your foreigner credentials ;)

Pkelets and crumpets are two different things

Crumpets are about the diameter of a mug rim, and thick.

Pikelets are about the size of a saucer rim, same sort of depth as a crumpet.
(maybe oatcake sized, in diameter)
Very true but even though it said Crumpets on the packet they were always called pikelets.

Loppy, as in dirty.

Loppy, as in dirty.

Yes indeed - see post #49 on this thread.:)

Somebody was piking me off = watching me.:wow:

cannot mention no names, but when i was younger ,than i am now ,my freinds mum would say , so and so can't come out "our mister seen his a!!e",

cannot mention no names, but when i was younger ,than i am now ,my freinds mum would say , so and so can't come out "our mister seen his a!!e",:huh: not being funny but I don't see how this is a Sheffield saying, don't even know what it means :confused:

Out on a walk this morning we saw hundreds of conkers on the floor waiting to be collected.Don't kids bother anymore? Bit different from in my day.Then,daft kids used to climb trees to get conkers before they were ready and all they got were "watter bellys".
And I'm sorry PT but I have to take issue with you about pikelets.You're right in that they were thick with holes,but only small in diameter,not big like oatcakes!

Out on a walk this morning we saw hundreds of conkers on the floor waiting to be collected.Don't kids bother anymore? Bit different from in my day.Then,daft kids used to climb trees to get conkers before they were ready and all they got were "watter bellys".
And I'm sorry PT but I have to take issue with you about pikelets.You're right in that they were thick with holes,but only small in diameter,not big like oatcakes!

That's how I recall them. When I went to live down south I noticed crumpets looked the same as pikelets

Out on a walk this morning we saw hundreds of conkers on the floor waiting to be collected.Don't kids bother anymore? Bit different from in my day.Then,daft kids used to climb trees to get conkers before they were ready and all they got were "watter bellys".
And I'm sorry PT but I have to take issue with you about pikelets.You're right in that they were thick with holes,but only small in diameter,not big like oatcakes!

So, what you are referring to are crumpets, then? (crumpets are small, pikelets are larger, about the size of a saucer.)

That's how I recall them. When I went to live down south I noticed crumpets looked the same as pikelets

That's because some people use the terms interchangeably. (and perhaps because some people have a bit of embarrassment about using the term "Crumpet", given it's "phwoar!"/ "Carry-on" connotations)

But, no, they are three separate things:- Crumpets, Pikelets, and Oatcakes.

So, what you are referring to are crumpets, then? (crumpets are small, pikelets are larger, about the size of a saucer.)That's because some people use the terms interchangeably.
But, no, they are three separate things:- Crumpets, Pikelets, and Oatcakes.my step-granny always called those small chewy holey things 'pikelets'. I've never seen any larger ones, do they still make them? Oatcakes are the flat things you can use to wrap fillings, like chapattis, yeah?

My mother always called what I now call
Crumpets as Pikelets.....First time I ever had Oatcakes was down here..........

So, what you are referring to are crumpets, then? (crumpets are small, pikelets are larger, about the size of a saucer.)



That's because some people use the terms interchangeably. (and perhaps because some people have a bit of embarrassment about using the term "Crumpet", given it's "phwoar!"/ "Carry-on" connotations)

But, no, they are three separate things:- Crumpets, Pikelets, and Oatcakes.

Crumpets are the same size as pikelets but thiner and not as holy.

Nesh also means Scared

hiya we , never used nesh to mean scared, we allways said freetned,

They both have holes though. And the reason is, so the butter can run down your arms.
Really though I was going to change direction a bit and introduce some old pub terms.
Can anyone remember the term 'best room'? Probably it refered to what became known as the 'Lounge'. And when I used to fetch beer for my dad, the pub I went to had names above the doors; 'Taproom', 'Smoking Room', and the aforementioned 'Lounge' of course.
But a term I heard used a lot was 'drammer'. By the time I got to boozing it seemed to have disapeared. I always imagined a small room where you only got a shot of spirits, a 'dram' in other words. But I found a reference to 'best room'. It's been in use since 1750 more or less, and it was also used in the days of the American Revolution. Seems a shame it's died out.

Now I am older I prefer pikelet to crumpet, less hassle :hihi:

Out on a walk this morning we saw hundreds of conkers on the floor waiting to be collected.Don't kids bother anymore? Bit different from in my day.Then,daft kids used to climb trees to get conkers before they were ready and all they got were "watter bellys".
And I'm sorry PT but I have to take issue with you about pikelets.You're right in that they were thick with holes,but only small in diameter,not big like oatcakes!

Re comkers,health and safety decrees that kids can't play conkers anymore,not without the required risk assessment being carried and safety gear being worn

They both have holes though. And the reason is, so the butter can run down your arms.
Really though I was going to change direction a bit and introduce some old pub terms.
Can anyone remember the term 'best room'? Probably it refered to what became known as the 'Lounge'. And when I used to fetch beer for my dad, the pub I went to had names above the doors; 'Taproom', 'Smoking Room', and the aforementioned 'Lounge' of course.
But a term I heard used a lot was 'drammer'. By the time I got to boozing it seemed to have disapeared. I always imagined a small room where you only got a shot of spirits, a 'dram' in other words. But I found a reference to 'best room'. It's been in use since 1750 more or less, and it was also used in the days of the American Revolution. Seems a shame it's died out.
I was always lead to believe that the Dram shop,drammer,came about so that me could go in there and swear and gamble without offending the women.If a woman went in she had to put up with the swearing.If you went into the best room,lounge, your drink would cost you a penny more,but you sat on soft stools and chairs and invariably they had a piano player.

If we were making a bit of a racket at home my dad used to say "Shurrup it's like a dramshop in here"

darra! oh dear! ;) showing your foreigner credentials ;)

Pkelets and crumpets are two different things

Crumpets are about the diameter of a mug rim, and thick.

Pikelets are about the size of a saucer rim, same sort of depth as a crumpet.
(maybe oatcake sized, in diameter)

The was an oatcake and pikelet shop in Crookes. The pikelets they made were the same as the crumpets I buy today, as are the oatcakes. My son can demolish a packet at one sitting - toasted of course.

there was lounge or best room beer did cost more in there then the tap room they used to play cards dominoes darts and then the dram shop there the men used to swear and have there arguments about football ect.

Well, that's about how I remember some of the pubs, but I still imagine that the dram shop, ways back, only sold the hard stuff, like you could nip in and get a shot. I was going to say if you needed it, but who doesn't from time to time?
But, I digress. Remember the term 'living place'? I can remember going to call on a mate when I was a kid, and his mother saying 'He's in the living place'. This was a house where the backdoor opened straight into the kitchen. The 'living place' being the room between the kitchen and the front room. Never come across it anywhere but Sheffield.

hiya we , never used nesh to mean scared, we allways said freetned,

More cowardly than scared. "Th'at nesh thee". In a similar vein, anyone else come across "yit un".

The was an oatcake and pikelet shop in Crookes. The pikelets they made were the same as the crumpets I buy today, as are the oatcakes. My son can demolish a packet at one sitting - toasted of course.

hiya i remember just after the war about 48/9/50/ we had on bath st a pikelet man come round he carried a big wicker basket it was full of pikelets and oatcakes but the ones i remember bore no resemblance to the ones today, the pikelets were smaller than oatcakes which were darker and aroundthe size of a small dinner plate, the pikelets were toasted at the open fire the oatcakes were too big to toast but when they were heated we had syrup, or jam on them,There was a pikelet shop down hereford st i would pass it on the way to the lane to watch united,across the road was the Horsemeat shop,

Re comkers,health and safety decrees that kids can't play conkers anymore,not without the required risk assessment being carried and safety gear being worn

Trust you're saying that with your tongue in your cheek:
http://www.hse.gov.uk/myth/september.htm

hiya i remember just after the war about 48/9/50/ we had on bath st a pikelet man come round he carried a big wicker basket it was full of pikelets and oatcakes but the ones i remember bore no resemblance to the ones today, the pikelets were smaller than oatcakes which were darker and aroundthe size of a small dinner plate, the pikelets were toasted at the open fire the pikelets were too big to toast but when they were heated we had syrup, or jam on them,There was a pikelet shop down hereford st i would pass it on the way to the lane to watch united,across the road was the Horsemeat shop,

Oh Willybite, crikey you have done it now! Our friend Margaret once told us she could remember a shop selling horse meat at the bottom of the Moor somewhere and we all. fell about laughing. Winding her up by saying that must have been during the war as she is so much older than us (us 53-53 ,her57 !) Going to have to grovel now:hihi:

HI Not only the name, but nearly the same birthday, mine is the9/9/24 . Cheers Arthur.

he's seen is arse would be what was meant

my mum used the word ;nesh; if one was against washing in cold water

HI Willybite , l bet it was the same chap l remember , he used to come in ___our yard___ on Gloucester st ,and the desccription of his wares is just as l recall .Cheers Arthur.

Confirm the horsemeat shop's location in Hereford, because l did some repairs on that block during the war Arthur

l confirm the saying 'living place' as being the living room Arthur

ln prewar years there were in the dramshop 'spitoons' with sawdust [for the uninitionated they were as the saying was 'to gob in ' spit] Arthur

ln prewar years there were in the dramshop 'spitoons' with sawdust [for the uninitionated they were as the saying was 'to gob in ' spit] Arthur

hiya arther willy bite here again the horsemeat shop was on the right hand side from the moor, on the corner was i think barkleys bank? then an electrical ? shop, then a FACTORY i remember it had a wide archway then the said shop, not sure i think there were a wallpaper shop and a pet shop .on the left side was where era furnishings was, and a small pub i think then a little lane with a paper shop on its corner with a chip shop just next door on the lane, from the paper shop further down was the pikelet shop tghen there was a little cafe then the pub on the corner with its fully cream tiled frontage.
arther do you remember another papershop WOOLHOUSES bottom of cavendish st they had a few girls and one son peter, last saw him about 3 years back.

Oh Willybite, crikey you have done it now! Our friend Margaret once told us she could remember a shop selling horse meat at the bottom of the Moor somewhere and we all. fell about laughing. Winding her up by saying that must have been during the war as she is so much older than us (us 53-53 ,her57 !) Going to have to grovel now:hihi:

hiya well grovel ha ha but it is true about the horsemeat shop your friend must have only just remembered it at 57 .anyway sorry.( they would always cut the yellowish fat off to pass it off as beef, trouble was the helpings were so much bigger of horseflesh than beef because it was a lot cheaper.

hiya well grovel ha ha but it is true about the horsemeat shop your friend must have only just remembered it at 57 Y.anyway sorry.

Hi Willybite, yes I was thinking that too. Perhaps she is older than she is letting on eh? can you remember how long it was there? she told me that she used to come into town from th Derbyshire border with her Dad to do the shopping and she hated going past the horse meat shop so she must have been old enough for it to register eh? perhaps she's knocked a couple of years off, waaitt ill I see her tomorrow:suspect:

Trust you're saying that with your tongue in your cheek:
http://www.hse.gov.uk/myth/september.htm

Don't tell me tell the heads that are still banning them in schools :)

ln prewar years there were in the dramshop 'spitoons' with sawdust [for the uninitionated they were as the saying was 'to gob in ' spit] Arthur
You don't remember them do you Arthur? PPhtt.....ting!
Didn't they have them in the best room but called them cuspidors? Just kidding.
I read a story by Mark Twain in which he mentions a cuspidor with an engraving on the rim stating 'In God We Trust'.

Hi Willybite, yes I was thinking that too. Perhaps she is older than she is letting on eh? can you remember how long it was there? she told me that she used to come into town from th Derbyshire border with her Dad to do the shopping and she hated going past the horse meat shop so she must have been old enough for it to register eh? perhaps she's knocked a couple of years off, waaitt ill I see her tomorrow:suspect:

hiya thinking back i can't reember when it closed sorry i did use era furnishings in 1962 and the bank on the corner a bit earlier so i cant tell you exactly when the horseflesh shop closed, i think they used the word horseflesh instead of horsemeat
ps there were some good tripe shops around as well.i only ate tripe and chicklins and bag,but people around at the time40/50s i remember ate cowheel and legbeef, pigs trotters ,cows udder, sheeps brains,pigs ears, pigs face, pig's chaps, the worst for me was tongue, ugh.

Nesh also means Scared
I've never heard nesh used to mean scared. Nesh means you're not hardy (eg. you feel the cold easily)
Yitten means scared or cowardly, it's what thi call thi when that freetened.

A can see thas got t 'monk on.

I've never heard nesh used to mean scared. Nesh means you're not hardy (eg. you feel the cold easily)
Yitten means scared or cowardly, it's what thi call thi when that freetened.

correct deedar that reight theer. sum orum no nowt eh.

Today a friend and i was having a conversation with an elderly lady, she said someone was obstropulous, and that they could stop a nine day clock! is it old sheffield twang or what!

hhiya lilylager da started summat wi dis thred abet da dint think thad gerr as meny leters as thas ad did tha, god i amt spoke like dis for yonks mind it keeps mi brane tikkin, av never ritten owt like dis befoor eyeder tanks.
canda remember anybody that was tall being called" longshanks" or tu se tu a lass tha reminds me ora film staar.... lassie

We used to live next door to a bloke that my Mum and Dad called 'Asda' because he was always asking, "As da got" something or other he wanted to borrow.
Have a look at www.birkett.yolasite.com for 'First Job' - a Sheffield story.

'Asda' sounds a bit like 'aster'. My grandad always said 'aster' (i.e. 'hast thou') and 'wilter' (i.e. wilt thou') instead of 'have you' and 'will you'. So he might say "aster bin ooam?", "aster gorr any fags" or "wilter lend me a bob?" etc.

that reminded me of the sheffield bus drivers who used to refer to the OAPs as "twirlies", as in "am ah too early"

I once asked my mother how to pronounce either "Is it eether or ither? " I asked...
she didn't look up, and said "nayther" ~ thx mam.:suspect:

does anyboy else say "standing 'ere like clem"?

and whois clem?

my OH thinks i made it up! but i have always said it, must have come from school:loopy::loopy:

I used a lot of Sheffield slang and dialect in the first drafts of 'First Job' but reviewers complained that they spent too much time trying to understand what Dave and Phil were on about so I had to tone it down a bit.
Read it at www.birkett.yolasite.com

No Maxine Smith it was not made up, my Mum used to use the exact expression when she was kept waiting or left standing "I'm standing here like clem", another of her expressions was a compliment when we looking smart and well turned out, she would say "You look like a new scraped carrot"

'Standing theer like clem'. I always thought it meant standing around looking dumb or something. Or, I've heard the expression 'I'm bloody clammed', meaning hungry.
Both these have been kicked around on another thread, I think, but I'm still not totally clear where, or from what, they originate.
When did anybody last hear the expression 'new laid egg', like in a recipe 'Take a new laid egg'. The only time you'd actually get a new laid egg nowadays is to keep fowls, and then you'd have to stick your hand under the rear end of your favorite bird. (I should edit that last bit really, but no).

that reminded me of the sheffield bus drivers who used to refer to the OAPs as "twirlies", as in "am ah too early"

A new expression, came about when OAP's were given free bus passes.

When I was at the Tech. our English master used to say "you speak three languages, English, French & Sheffield, English being the worst spoken" One day he gave us a book written in Yorkshire dialect, we had great difficulty reading it aloud.

'Standing theer like clem'. I always thought it meant standing around looking dumb or something. Or, I've heard the expression 'I'm bloody clammed', meaning hungry.
Both these have been kicked around on another thread, I think, but I'm still not totally clear where, or from what, they originate.
When did anybody last hear the expression 'new laid egg', like in a recipe 'Take a new laid egg'. The only time you'd actually get a new laid egg nowadays is to keep fowls, and then you'd have to stick your hand under the rear end of your favorite bird. (I should edit that last bit really, but no).

yep, i always use "clem" when im stood around waiting for one of the kids to get ready, especially when i have reminded them "its time to go" several times! and im just stood there like, well, CLEM!

It was either Clem or Soft Mick that we stood about like.....

Have you ever been told not to hang around with someone 'cus ees a rum 'un?

ee's mooer trouble than a cart looad o' monkeys

My old mum used to say [standing there like clem ] and i'm 85 so the saying is old enough l once asked whose clem, she said 'how the hell do l know' Arthur

HI PlainTalker, talking about markets and sayings did you ever the patter of one stallholder who used to sell all sorts of cures, one was for worms [l'd go just to get a laugh] he'd say .Now all you mothers 'if you see that child picking its nose and scratching its bum 'THAT' childs got worms, A few of us kids used to say it at the same time as him , much to his annoyance. Arthur

HI The wallpaper shop was Blaskeys , there was a family of Woolhouse's lived on Dorset st there was a son Pete as we called him perhaps the same? eh Arthur

My Mom always says "I'm starved" meaning she's cold and if the shops are crowded, she says it were "snyded aht" She lives in Kent now and the locals don't know what she's on abaht aif ot time.

My Mom always says "I'm starved" meaning she's cold and if the shops are crowded, she says it were "snyded aht" She lives in Kent now and the locals don't know what she's on abaht aif ot time.

In Sheffield that perished if that cold.
I can remember one year getting a bike from Wiggys instead o father Christmas.
And it dint matter if da doged insurance man cuss it's not a debt.

In Sheffield that perished if that cold.
I can remember one year getting a bike from Wiggys instead o father Christmas.
And it dint matter if da doged insurance man cuss it's not a debt.

hiya grinder
i wish thad mek the mind up withe rittin one minit tha spels oreight anext thee spelins altu cok like thee spelin of cold, dusta meen cowd, a wish thad meck de mind up ope tha dunt tek uff abart me sayin owt abart it, av brock me finga,leg,aarm,
just passin a bit o time just joakin oreeight meowd sithe den, or is it sidee den.
anuther arv jus remembered tha mite se dis to a little girl lernin ta talk, hoo tha art a gabby aggy, just a thought can we be classed as bi-lingual ? when you think about it our second language at school was i suppose english egh

Nayow dat aureight pal, tek moor dan dat t upset me....

As kids when we left a door open we were always told to 'put wood in t'oyl'

Saying "put the wood in the hole" gets mixed reactions!

What about 'lift t'snek' then? My mam used to say that when she wanted the door opened.

Thi snek is another word for thi noowaz.

What about 'lift t'snek' then? My mam used to say that when she wanted the door opened.

Quite right - "sneck" is a dialect word for a lever that opens the catch on an old-fashioned door fitting - see here (http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_561507958/sneck.html) and here (http://www.robertkarl.org/woodworkingblog/uploaded_images/DoorSneck-780993.jpg).

Thi snek is another word for thi noowaz.

Ah thowt that were thi "snitch", not a sneck?

What about CHUCKIN.
As in chuckin stooens or gerin chucked aht o pictures...

Birdin.
Goowin aht wi lasses..

and the classic,
"Is dat dar bird" ?

What about CHUCKIN.
As in chuckin stooens or gerin chucked aht o pictures...

Birdin.
Goowin art wi lasses..

and the classic,
"Is dat dar bird" ?

warra abaart, doan swoller it, chow it , it werr, keep the sneck aart ar it , and wipe thee snitch its runnin, well run afterit , tha woodnt sey wipe the sneck, or keep the snitch out, two different uses.coors the both meean nooers, a no anudder, that stikin de nooers in weer itsnotwanted .in't pub, odder gooin ta gerrum in,ar think its dar round, its thar corl int it,ar gorrum in a bit bak, ar sed its thar tern or duz da want a thick eer insted,
what about clobber, shoe-pods,that like a kettle drum shut it,thars got sum lip ant da,
warrabart, that a durty erb, or erbert,tha's not wesht de nek its loppy, anybody wants to borrow some cash they were ont tab,or tap.
if you wanted the loo, at home you would say, just gooin across yaard, if you were int pub you go tut back,or tut lagger,this one was crood a no burr it wer sed,