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DragonofAna
30-07-2005, 21:23
I'm a Sheffield lad born and bred. Cos of the time I was born I have a particularly Sheffield accent - such has been discussed on other threads. Now I have visited places like Rotherham and Doncaster and the folk there speak with a Sheffield accent, but the folk from Barnsley don't. They have their own accent. Same in Bradford and such - so - any list of places where the natives speak with a Sheffield accent?

Just nosey.

Dragon

redrobbo
30-07-2005, 21:44
Here's two......

Idaho, USA (spoken by Tulip, who is sheffield born)

Blue Mountains, Australia (spoken by peterdo, another sheffield exile).

I suspect there are loads more! :rolleyes:

DragonofAna
30-07-2005, 22:01
I wasn't meaning exiles. I was meaning foreign areas of whereever that speak with a sheffield accent naturally rather than folk who come from sheffield.

Dragon

Lestat
31-07-2005, 08:18
The Barnsley accent is so much more. . . . er . . . . common then the Sheffield one. I was asked in a bar for a 'Leet' not too long back. Whats a leet? I asked - 'to leet me fag up'.

Yep, she was from Barnsley :rolleyes:

DragonofAna
31-07-2005, 08:34
I think it all depends on where abouts in Barnsley you are raised. Some lasses have only a hint of the accent. I have noticed it really seems to show for the lads though - unsure if there is any significance to that? Maybe females are just generally more careful how they speak?

The northern accent - from the borders and up that way - not quite scottish but getting closer to that than english - those make me laugh. Sorry but the brummie and newcastle accents are soo funny.

Dragon

Don_Kiddick
31-07-2005, 09:06
There was a Barnsley miner phoned his GP one night. His wife was rolling round in agony.

The Gp found it very difficult to elicit the symptoms form the chap.

Finally he asked, "Has your wife got the coil in"?

To which, surprised, the chap replied

"No mate, wirron gas central heating" :confused:


:hihi:

Don_Kiddick
31-07-2005, 09:13
You know you're Barnsley if... (http://www.ayup.co.uk/avina/laugh1.html) :hihi:

However... If Star Wars was set in Barnsley... (http://www.ayup.co.uk/avina/laugh1.html) :hihi:

(scroll down for text past navigation boxes)

DragonofAna
31-07-2005, 09:14
Aye - but we use coil in Sheffield as well so that would work for a sheffielder as well. Hence we have a "coil oil" which is - of course - "Place where t'coil guz dahn shute intsella."

Heard a real base sheffield accent and even I could not tell what the bloke was trying to say and I am a total native.

So - still wondering if there are other places near or far where Sheffield accent is the norm?

Dragon

LordChaverly
31-07-2005, 17:24
There is a similar strange usage of 'coal' in the Black Country, hence the joke;

Where's your coal bin missis?

Well, its bin in me 'ed, but its gone to me chest now.

I wonder if there are any other coal jokes involving regional accents?

melthebell
31-07-2005, 17:25
round these parts whitby and surrounding area theres loads of sheffield, barnsley, donvcaster people, for some unexplicable reason

ADC_28
31-07-2005, 18:16
Originally posted by LordChaverly
I wonder if there are any other coal jokes involving regional accents?

My Grandmother used to tell the joke that you can tell a truly posh person because they think sex is what you put in the coal in....

LordChaverly
31-07-2005, 19:22
We seem to have stumbled on a subculture of regional coal jokes. Most of them must be pretty dated though, because few of us actually use coal any more. Perhpas there ought to be equivalents relating to laminate flooring or double glazing.

melthebell
31-07-2005, 19:24
95% ( - ish, just a wild guess dont pull me up on it :P ) of people round here still use coal

LordChaverly
31-07-2005, 19:44
Originally posted by melthebell
95% ( - ish, just a wild guess dont pull me up on it :P ) of people round here still use coal

I personally know of only one person in Sheffield who still uses coal, but perhaps my circle of acquantances is not all that large.

nanrobbo
01-08-2005, 05:05
We (husband & me) live in Australia, just outside Sydney. Been here 30 years and still have Sheffield accents. What really gets my goat is being asked are you from Lancashire or Yorkshire! I ask you- Lancashire!!!!!

lizzmobile
02-08-2005, 22:12
What I find bizzoire (sic) is that we grew up in Sheff, my cousins in Chesterfield/ New Whittington and my godparents kids in Chesterfireld/Brimington, my grandmother in Chesterfield/Staveley, all within about 15 miles of each other, we all had 4 difference accents, including colloquialisms isms zzz. I know they are all Derbys and us Yorks, but they still had 3 diff accents. It must get really dull in the US where there are not so many.

I left Sheff and went to Paris when I was 18 (stayed for 8 yrs) and I in order to be understood, I had to drop me Tyke. Thee and thou didn't go down too well.

They have regional accents there too, including dialects that are unintelligible to each other.

I do notice the diff out here in Barnsley though (please note I am not from here). Next door neb's accent is soooooo strong "yarr'eight cock?" he always says (I'm female) and really rolls his 'r's. Calls his wife "ahh Gert" and her name is Melanie. Every phrase begins with Tha wants ter ... I could listen to him for hours.

Find it quite rich too, as accents and dialects are intrinsic to people's identity, and cultural heritage.

Chatted to a chap at Sheff Uni about 5 yrs ago who said that the accents in US/Canada/Oz/NZ are as they were when peeps first went to live out there and have not evolved in the way they have in the UK.

Have I gone off topic un peu?

Ciao

rich951
02-08-2005, 22:28
Originally posted by Don_Kiddick
You know you're Barnsley if... (http://www.ayup.co.uk/avina/laugh1.html) :hihi:

However... If Star Wars was set in Barnsley... (http://www.ayup.co.uk/avina/laugh1.html) :hihi:

(scroll down for text past navigation boxes)
Fixed link for the Star Wars one:
http://ayup.co.uk/avina/laugh2.html :)

lizzmobile
03-08-2005, 12:06
Rich951, is this in reply to my post or to the thread????? It's a real hoot, and soooooo true. What am I doing here? Oh yes, that's it, saving up by shopping at Mozzers to go and live in Australia.

FriarTuck
03-08-2005, 12:49
Originally posted by Dragon
I'm a Sheffield lad born and bred. Cos of the time I was born I have a particularly Sheffield accent - such has been discussed on other threads. Now I have visited places like Rotherham and Doncaster and the folk there speak with a Sheffield accent, but the folk from Barnsley don't. They have their own accent. Same in Bradford and such - so - any list of places where the natives speak with a Sheffield accent?

Just nosey.

Dragon

It's all to do with population mobility. Doncaster and Sheffield were historically thoroughfares to London and the north. Local dialects (and accents) were systematically tainted by visitors from other parts of the country. Barnsley, and to some extent Rotherham remained comparatively untouched and so maintained the strong regional dialect (although Rotherham has been influenced somewhat by Sheffield due to the large number of migrant workers who earned a living in Sheffield).
This is why you will find a lot of villages still speaking with strong regional accents.
I think you will find the dialect of 2005 Barnsley is distinctively diluted compared to the 1950’s or even 1970’s. It’s estimated that by the 22nd century dialect diversity in the UK will be minimal, and only the strongly Irish influenced Scouse accent will offer noticeable difference.