I saw two wednesday players yesterday trying to pull a Coventry player up off the pitch and having a go at him for acting.
It turns out the Coventry player has a suspected broken leg, rather unsporting behavior in my opinion.

wasnt an 'over the top' or 'two-footed' challenge, didnt look serious at all at first glance - with all the diving etc goin on these days i dont think there it was unsporting, i mean, if they KNEW he'd broken his leg they wouldnt have dont it, the lad was winding a few of our lads up during the game aswell for the record. players pull other players up all the time ... something out of nothing here, all the best to the lad hope its not serious - gunnardsson i think it was

wasnt an 'over the top' or 'two-footed' challenge, didnt look serious at all at first glance - with all the diving etc goin on these days i dont think there it was unsporting, i mean, if they KNEW he'd broken his leg they wouldnt have dont it, the lad was winding a few of our lads up during the game aswell for the record. players pull other players up all the time ... something out of nothing here, all the best to the lad hope its not serious - gunnardsson i think it was

The wednesday players [two of them] repeatedly tried to grab his arm and pull him up when he was telling them he was seriously hurt.
It was commented on by the TV pundits last night.

The wednesday players [two of them] repeatedly tried to grab his arm and pull him up when he was telling them he was seriously hurt.
It was commented on by the TV pundits last night.

The Wednesday players, Gray in particular, were out of order. The tackle looked appalling from where I was. I expected Clarke to get a straight red for it. To try to pull up an injured player is really not on.

That said, Wednesday win, United lose. Happy days:)

I saw two wednesday players yesterday trying to pull a Coventry player up off the pitch and having a go at him for acting.
It turns out the Coventry player has a suspected broken leg, rather unsporting behavior in my opinion.

It was Michael Gray and he looked a bit not embarrassed, can't think of the word right now, when he realised the player was actually badly injured. He'll probably write about it in his next BBC blog.

this is the same player, aron gunnarson, who went down for no reason whatsoever in first half, and his own team mates were that concerned they carried on playing, not even being in a promising position. then when the ref stopped play, brought physios on, the kid got straight up and started jogging. im not one bit suprised gray did what he did, he obviously thought he was play acting like in the first half.

obviously he did not see leon best jumping like a grasshopper with no ball or defender near him
diving for fun
i would like players like this to get booked more often as Ronaldo did this for years
utd fans are more happy when they lose and wednesday lose aswell
utd fans are very strange people and i thought women were strange:hihi:

this is the same player, aron gunnarson, who went down for no reason whatsoever in first half, and his own team mates were that concerned they carried on playing, not even being in a promising position. then when the ref stopped play, brought physios on, the kid got straight up and started jogging. im not one bit suprised gray did what he did, he obviously thought he was play acting like in the first half.

Herein lies the problem; the Boy Who Cried Wolf, applied to football.

Anyone who's known to fake injuries, and goes down with a real injury, will be assumed to be faking it. He will have only himself to blame for the reaction he gets.

this is the same player, aron gunnarson, who went down for no reason whatsoever in first half, and his own team mates were that concerned they carried on playing, not even being in a promising position. then when the ref stopped play, brought physios on, the kid got straight up and started jogging. im not one bit suprised gray did what he did, he obviously thought he was play acting like in the first half.

Ah that was Gunnarsson. That explains it. You'd have thought he would have stayed down after the physio's ran on, to prevent himself from looking like a berk.

Ah that was Gunnarsson. That explains it. You'd have thought he would have stayed down after the physio's ran on, to prevent himself from looking like a berk.

that was daft! didnt realise it was the same player!, quick cross pitch run from the physio's for no reason lol

boy who cried wolf is very apt to this situation ... are you seriously saying that the wednesday players knew he had broke his leg and still continued? not likely pal ...

you didnt comment on how a lot of wednesday fans (me included) clapped him off the field i see when he went off on the stretcher

It was Michael Gray and he looked a bit not embarrassed, can't think of the word right now, when he realised the player was actually badly injured. He'll probably write about it in his next BBC blog.

Its a common issue and not a Wednesday issue alone, in this case however its a serious issue a suspected broken leg that could have been made worst.

If a ref feels its a "acting offence" the played needs booking, if a player "gray" taking matter in to his own hands that should also be a booking. AM sure the rules already cover this but refs should enforce the ruling. In this case a broken leg with "added" complications and "GRAYS" involvement could end up in the courts.

Its seen weekly in the leagues.

Gray was bang out of order but if he knew how badly the kid was injured then i doubt he would have reacted as he did,and from where i was sat it didn't look that bad a challenge,the kid was just unlucky

It was Michael Gray and he looked a bit not embarrassed, can't think of the word right now, when he realised the player was actually badly injured. He'll probably write about it in his next BBC blog.

I'd go 'contrite' theer, fella. ;)

Gray was bang out of order but if he knew how badly the kid was injured then i doubt he would have reacted as he did,and from where i was sat it didn't look that bad a challenge,the kid was just unlucky

It was also quite obvious that none of the players or the ref thought the injury was that bad. Any player who saw a broken leg would immediately signal the physios but none did.

I'll admit the challenge looks a lot worse than I thought it did at the time. Where I was on the Kop, nobody thought that the challenge was that bad.

if gray knew it was serious he obviously wouldn't of done it but by the sounds of it the player was play acting alot in the game. i'm sure gray will apologise for it unlike all these players that fake injury. hope the player makes a full recovery but by the sounds of it he brought alot of it on hiself

that was daft! didnt realise it was the same player!, quick cross pitch run from the physio's for no reason lol

boy who cried wolf is very apt to this situation ... are you seriously saying that the wednesday players knew he had broke his leg and still continued? not likely pal ...

you didnt comment on how a lot of wednesday fans (me included) clapped him off the field i see when he went off on the stretcher

The challenge looked a fair inoccious one on the tele, if he was play acting earlier its clear to see why this sort of thing can happen.

Nice to hear the Wednesday fans clapped the injured player off the pitch, as we know some of the Wednesday element have past 'form' when it comes to showing respect to an injured player been stretchered off the pitch.

Did Clarke get a booking for that reckless challenge? (just seen it on MOTD) - he was so late he was just in time for the press conference after... Had it been the other way, you'd all have been screaming for blood on here.

Did Clarke get a booking for that reckless challenge? (just seen it on MOTD) - he was so late he was just in time for the press conference after... Had it been the other way, you'd all have been screaming for blood on here.

Its different when its the other way round - Wednesday as a club and fans are whiter than white (Blades are big, nasty and horrible).

Did Clarke get a booking for that reckless challenge? (just seen it on MOTD) - he was so late he was just in time for the press conference after... Had it been the other way, you'd all have been screaming for blood on here.

Think he got a yellow. It was a late tackle, but never a red card.

Think he got a yellow. It was a late tackle, but never a red card.

Fair enough then - it wasn't clear on BBC whether the ref had punished him. :)

Fair enough then - it wasn't clear on BBC whether the ref had punished him. :)

The ref yesterday was pretty good to be fair - other refs may have given the Grant 'save' as a goal, but it clearly didn't cross the whole of the line. The ref originally gave a pen for Spurr's superb tackle in the box, but conversed with the lino and changed his decision.

you didnt comment on how a lot of wednesday fans (me included) clapped him off the field i see when he went off on the stretcher

I suppose that makes a change from throwing coins and spiting at someone on a stretcher. :roll:

Did Clarke get a booking for that reckless challenge? (just seen it on MOTD) - he was so late he was just in time for the press conference after... Had it been the other way, you'd all have been screaming for blood on here.

just seem the highlights, never a red card. ok he was very late but a red would of been harsh i think. from seeing the challenge i wouldn't of expected an injury like that, seemed unlucky for the lad

The ref yesterday was pretty good to be fair - other refs may have given the Grant 'save' as a goal, but it clearly didn't cross the whole of the line. The ref originally gave a pen for Spurr's superb tackle in the box, but conversed with the lino and changed his decision.

Its funny what makes up a good and a bad ref :)

Sounds like it was meant to be for Wednesday yesterday.

Its funny what makes up a good and a bad ref :)

Sounds like it was meant to be for Wednesday yesterday.

He made the correct decisions. The lino dropped a bollock when he didn't give a throw in for Coventry though, when the ball went a foot out of play.

Coventry were poor, never really threatened us much.

this is the same player, aron gunnarson, who went down for no reason whatsoever in first half, and his own team mates were that concerned they carried on playing, not even being in a promising position. then when the ref stopped play, brought physios on, the kid got straight up and started jogging. im not one bit suprised gray did what he did, he obviously thought he was play acting like in the first half.

I thought he was possibly a diver in the 1st half. He dived before another tackle arrived, in front of the North.

Not the worst diver I've seen, but made me wonder.

Sincere best wishes for a speedy recovery.

Its different when its the other way round - Wednesday as a club and fans are whiter than white (Blades are big, nasty and horrible).

I knew that eventually, even you, would post something factual. :P

He made the correct decisions. The lino dropped a bollock when he didn't give a throw in for Coventry though, when the ball went a foot out of play.

Coventry were poor, never really threatened us much.

No idea about the penalty as it wasn't on the tv highlights, but the ball did look over the line on tv (and certainly not "it clearly didn't cross the whole of the line."). Again with the penalty, could easily have gone the other way, so he gave two big decisions in the owls favour, of which one was clearly debatable at least!

Correct decisions for a Wednesdayite, yes... correct decisions...maybe not :) Like I said though, at least you took advantage of your good fortune and took the points.

You mentioned TV evidence, that's all we have to go on if we weren't there.
You'll not find any consolation for Uniteds' woes in the bottom of your glass Alex, but enjoy your few pints anyway.

Cheers my friend had a lovely day out.

how many times do we see players pull other players up off the pitch?...I dont think any malice was intended on grays part, i just think gray had had enough of the kids diving for fun and thought he'd help him up this time.

We could mention how many coventry players went in on the owls players during o'connors little run leading to the penalty, lol they were flying in from every direction

I suppose that makes a change from throwing coins and spiting at someone on a stretcher. :roll:

Or firing fireworks amd throwing urine at opposing fans....this could go on for ages.

I suppose that makes a change from throwing coins and spiting at someone on a stretcher. :roll:

im not condoning some wednesday "fans'" actions but if u smile and wave at your bitter rivals' away fans when their getting beat you'll probably not get a standing ovation from them ... on the subject of the Gunnarsson incident (not much of a talking point for me tbh, and this point has been raised many times) its a 'The boy who cried wolf' sitaution ... but good luck to the lad and i along with all the other owls fans who clapped him off (i doubt anyonw watching live thought it was a leg breaking challenge ) i wish him the best of luck in his recovery

i only hope ward doesnt come back soon - and thats a compliment, not hoping he's got a serious injury, but i think when he comes back you might start playing a bit more football and might have a chance of going up this year

wawaw

I saw two wednesday players yesterday trying to pull a Coventry player up off the pitch and having a go at him for acting.
It turns out the Coventry player has a suspected broken leg, rather unsporting behavior in my opinion.


in the good old days they'd have been stamping all over him....bloody modern day footballers bring back pitches covered in a six inch coating of mud and a ball with a lace in....oh! and not forgetting the lovely terracing....

I saw two wednesday players yesterday trying to pull a Coventry player up off the pitch and having a go at him for acting.
It turns out the Coventry player has a suspected broken leg, rather unsporting behavior in my opinion.

http://usr.audioasylum.com/images/2/28707/spit-the-dummy.jpg

Ya great jessie.

Two wrongs don't make a right...

It doesn't matter that it seemed an innocuous challenge, the Coventry player pleaded with Clarke & Gray to let him stay down.

As for deflecting tactics, this is not exclusive
to Blades fans (see various thread by Wednesday fans after the derby defeat :rolleyes:) Oh, and this incident wasn't first highlighted by Blades fans.

I like Michael Gray, his blogs on BBC sport are good, hopefully a rightful apology will be made on said blog.

Or firing fireworks amd throwing urine at opposing fans....this could go on for ages.

:hihi:

Anyone for tennis, the same thing back and forth.

Scooby im not condoning some wednesday "fans'" actions but if u smile and wave at your bitter rivals' away fans when their getting beat you'll probably not get a standing ovation from them

Oh I see it was his own fault.

:hihi:

Anyone for tennis, the same thing back and forth.



Oh I see it was his own fault.

no, but if i was footballer, playing for the Owls and i was taken past United fans on a stretcher, i wouldnt be waving at them - do you know why!? because i'd probably get sommat thrown at me

no, but if i was footballer, playing for the Owls and i was taken past United fans on a stretcher, i wouldnt be waving at them - do you know why!? because i'd probably get sommat thrown at me

Maybe he was waving at the fans above you.

http://usr.audioasylum.com/images/2/28707/spit-the-dummy.jpg

Ya great jessie.

You didn't see the incident then?

Maybe he was waving at the fans above you.

nah, not what i saw mate

You didn't see the incident then?

I saw it.

But shouldn't you have more to be worried about with your own team than blubbering about us?

I saw it.

But shouldn't you have more to be worried about with your own team than blubbering about us?

You seem to be very bitter towards a fact about the wednesday game being posted frank.
No one is blubbering at all but asking a straight question other owls fans seem to have no problem answering.
Stop being so touchy you'll feel better.

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Lets try and stay on track; if there is nothing else to add about the incident the thread will be locked.

I'm afraid the Coventry player was a victim of his own attempts to cheat. If he's been falling down every time somebody went near him, then he was doing it to try and either gain advantage through a free kick, or to get an Owls player booked. It's the old Ronaldo syndrome and the ref and powers that be are also at fault. They're almost making football a non contact sport, so every time somebody goes down there's a chance that the ref will blow the whistle. It's for this reason that players like Norman Hunter, Ron Harris, Tommy Smith etc wouldn't be able to play in the modern game. When they tackled you , you didn't need to pretend you were hurt. Now they go down screaming and rolling about, only to get up and jog away withing seconds.
So yes perhaps the Owls players were a little at fault but the player brought it on himself. Maybe he'll learn a lesson from this, but I doubt it
End of story.....nuff said....

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I have pruned some of the off topic and 1-2-1 posts (sorry if I missed any) in fairness to those that have posted constructive comments lets have another go at keeping this thread open.

I'm afraid the Coventry player was a victim of his own attempts to cheat. If he's been falling down every time somebody went near him, then he was doing it to try and either gain advantage through a free kick, or to get an Owls player booked. It's the old Ronaldo syndrome and the ref and powers that be are also at fault. They're almost making football a non contact sport, so every time somebody goes down there's a chance that the ref will blow the whistle. It's for this reason that players like Norman Hunter, Ron Harris, Tommy Smith etc wouldn't be able to play in the modern game. When they tackled you , you didn't need to pretend you were hurt. Now they go down screaming and rolling about, only to get up and jog away withing seconds.
So yes perhaps the Owls players were a little at fault but the player brought it on himself. Maybe he'll learn a lesson from this, but I doubt it
End of story.....nuff said....well said pitty, theres too many players going down too easy & taking the refs for a ride, when they continually do it you expect 1 or 2 players to grab hold & try & get them up even though they shouldnt. theres too many of them play acting with fouls & fake injuries its ruining the game. if theyre not man enough to take a tackle they shouldnt be on the pitch. i dont condone what the owls players did but at the same time i can understand why they did it

Fair enough then - it wasn't clear on BBC whether the ref had punished him. :)
Not surprising, The BBC coverage could be better.

They didn't even show the penalty that Coventry were initially awarded just afterwards!

On topic The wednesday players didn't realise how bad it was but Sibon posted on here he did from in the stands.

On topic The wednesday players didn't realise how bad it was but Sibon posted on here he did from in the stands.

It seems Gray is slipping back into the ways that made him so unpopular during his earlier career;

http://www.coventrycity-mad.co.uk/news/loadnews.asp?cid=TMNW&id=468662

It seems Gray is slipping back into the ways that made him so unpopular during his earlier career;

http://www.coventrycity-mad.co.uk/news/loadnews.asp?cid=TMNW&id=468662

I bet none of his jokes were as good as the one I heard the other day.

A number of mods have had to trim this thread - it is almost more deletions than posts now. A reminder that insults to other posters aren't allowed. Also, use the Report Post function for any post you have an issue with - replying to a post you believe to be inappropriate is not the correct way to get it sorted.

why did gray get involved anyway? he was not the player who did the foul he should have just walked away not go back 20yds. to make some point.to pick out one player in this match and say he was cheating is crazy

On topic The wednesday players didn't realise how bad it was but Sibon posted on here he did from in the stands.

I think that it depends upon where you saw the incident from. I had a front on view from the South, near halfway. It looked a horrid challenge. It doesn't look anywhere near as bad on the TV.

If it had been a Coventry player tackling a Wednesday player, I'm pretty sure that it would have provoked quite a crowd reaction. There is a big thread on Owlstalk too... and many of the posters on there share my view.

I think that it depends upon where you saw the incident from. I had a front on view from the South, near halfway. It looked a horrid challenge. It doesn't look anywhere near as bad on the TV.

If it had been a Coventry player tackling a Wednesday player, I'm pretty sure that it would have provoked quite a crowd reaction. There is a big thread on Owlstalk too... and many of the posters on there share my view.

Any chance of getting Harvey on a attempted murder charge (e.g. like Mr Morgan was due to be sent down for 15yrs).

Any chance of getting Harvey on a attempted murder charge (e.g. like Mr Morgan was due to be sent down for 15yrs).

I think that murder requires "intent". I'm not sure that big Leon ever does much intentionally:hihi:

Morgan, OTOH, is a thug. Can we borrow him please :)

THATS IT JUST SAY (MORGAN) ENOUGH SAID!
then boot goes on other foot
take those horse blinkers off and look in widescreen
im sure ian hume would have something to say

THATS IT JUST SAY (MORGAN) ENOUGH SAID!
then boot goes on other foot
take those horse blinkers off and look in widescreen
im sure ian hume would have something to say

This has been done to death

If Hume was going to sue Morgan/SUFC it would have been done ages ago

This thread is nothing to do with the Morgan Hume incident, but about footballers trying to pull a player up who was seriously injured

This has been done to death

If Hume was going to sue Morgan/SUFC it would have been done ages ago

This thread is nothing to do with the Morgan Hume incident, but about footballers trying to pull a player up who was seriously injured

but didn't know this as he had been play acting all game apparently. gray has apologised to the player now anyway so at least he had the decency to do that. don't care about the morgan/hume incident now, been done to death

but didn't know this as he had been play acting all game apparently. gray has apologised to the player now anyway so at least he had the decency to do that. don't care about the morgan/hume incident now, been done to death

Yes I agree that no one knew he was injured as has been said before
You see it all the time in football games
I don't know if the Bold part was a dig at Morgan but I've known him personally for a long time and he went straight to the Barnsley dressing room after to check up on him and rang him up at home afterwords he also visited him in hospital before and after surgery

All the above were denied by simon davey as it didn't sit well with his statements to make out that Morgs was the Devil incarnate and to take away his teams deficiency in the medical stakes
but as both you and I said it's been done to death

Yes I agree that no one knew he was injured as has been said before
You see it all the time in football games
I don't know if the Bold part was a dig at Morgan but I've known him personally for a long time and he went straight to the Barnsley dressing room after to check up on him and rang him up at home afterwords he also visited him in hospital before and after surgery

All the above were denied by simon davey as it didn't sit well with his statements to make out that Morgs was the Devil incarnate and to take away his teams deficiency in the medical stakes
but as both you and I said it's been done to death

sorry, no the bold bit wasn't a dig at morgan. just meant other players might of not apologised at all.

It seems Gray is slipping back into the ways that made him so unpopular during his earlier career;

http://www.coventrycity-mad.co.uk/news/loadnews.asp?cid=TMNW&id=468662

That's just pathetic sour grapes from Best.

I'd like to have a look at Best's mobile and see just how many Michael Jackson jokes he has on there. I can guarantee there will be some (just like 99% of the population).

What's he going to be saying next 'I saw Gray drive out of the car park and he didn't indicate - I was appalled!!!'.

http://www.swfc.co.uk/page/News/0,,10304~1830908,00.html

Gray apologises and denies Gately remarks

well done Mickey lad

What was the score again Mr Best ????