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View Full Version : Star crime reports bellis 10-12-2003, 02:28 been looking at the star a lot recently lol anyway if you dig deeper as i have you will find if you look at the crime and court reports you will find as i did that the majority of crimes in sheffield are commited by non whites no doubt this will send the guardianistas of sheffield forum crazy but you cant argue with FACTS can you ..............:thumbsup: Tony 10-12-2003, 05:06 Nowt wrong with facts. I remember an old statistic that something like 15% of crime was by ethnic minorities compared to somehting like 7% of the population. That was ages ago and it's no doubt different now. I am sure that other fourm members will have opinions for that proportional difference. It's one of the reasons that the Police get a hard time on the race front, but their figures just reflect the actual situation - they only clear up the crime, not perpetrate it. It's not exactly an excuse for racism tho' is it, which seems to be how your post is angled? bellis 10-12-2003, 11:29 so are you saying that im racist then Tony 10-12-2003, 12:22 Originally posted by panda79 so are you saying that im racist then Did I say that? No I didn't. Were you calling me a guardianista? mikey 10-12-2003, 12:33 Your post also implicates The Star, but they are only reporting the facts. So does anyone know what the population split is in Sheffield roughy by percentages? It will be interesting to weigh up the figures once we know the mix. Whites? Asians? Afro Caribbeans? Eastern Europeans? max 10-12-2003, 12:53 Originally posted by mikey Your post also implicates The Star, but they are only reporting the facts. So does anyone know what the population split is in Sheffield roughy by percentages? It will be interesting to weigh up the figures once we know the mix. Whites? Asians? Afro Caribbeans? Eastern Europeans? It's all in here: 2001 census (http://www.neighbourhood.statistics.gov.uk) Greenback 10-12-2003, 14:22 Flicking throught the Star hardly constitutes a thorough investigation, does it now. Crime figures have to be examined with regard to socio-economics, or they don't really mean much - unless, of course, you believe that certain races are somehow biologically predisposed to acting in a lawless manner. And if you do believe this, you're most certainly racist. Tony 11-12-2003, 06:58 Agreed! I'm a bigger believer in nuture than nature. Andy 11-12-2003, 10:09 I wasn't aware that the Star reported people's races in the court report section. max 11-12-2003, 10:19 Originally posted by Andy I wasn't aware that the Star reported people's races in the court report section. I'm guessing he's using their names as a guide to their ethnicity. Names like Jemima Khan. Andy 11-12-2003, 10:32 Even if the Star's court report did show that the majority of people convicted of crimes were not white, this wouldn't mean that: the majority of crimes in sheffield are commited by non whites It simply means that the majority of people convicted of crimes are non-white. That's a very important difference. steelblade 11-12-2003, 10:32 Max Jemima Khan is a one off really isn't she? How many white people do you know with names like that? max 11-12-2003, 11:00 Originally posted by steelblade Max Jemima Khan is a one off really isn't she? How many white people do you know with names like that? Dozens, but they're all people who live in Sheffield so I can't name them. steelblade 11-12-2003, 12:03 Ok then, that's me told :D |