i want to know why people supe up cars. i only know one person who is doing up there car and that is dragon but i rekon the finished product would look nice.but why do people go to the extreme?!

yes, i have heard about dragon doing up his mondeo i think it will look nice cause hes doing it black with magic vinyl it will look nice

There have only been 2 modifications to my car.. Wheels and Sound.. thats as far as Im goin with it :D

Originally posted by Deejay
There have only been 2 modifications to my car.. Wheels and Sound.. thats as far as Im goin with it :D
We also have two modifications on our car.. the wheel trims have stylishly fallen off and theres a very becoming dent in the back where a wall hit us :)

Originally posted by fraz
i want to know why people supe up cars. i only know one person who is doing up there car and that is dragon but i rekon the finished product would look nice.but why do people go to the extreme?!

it depends on what you mean exactly.

Some things you change to enhance the performance, others you change to make your car look different/better/unique.

I always thought it was spelt 'soup'. Have to say, your spelling makes more sense!

;)

Some folks even enter them into competitions and stuff like that - have you ever looked in Max Power magazine, some of the modifications done to vehicles are absolutely unbelievable - people must have more money than sense!

Liz

Originally posted by mrsb73
people must have more money than sense!

Or a good credit card :? I saw sense and cut mine up :clap:

Originally posted by mrsb73
Some folks even enter them into competitions and stuff like that - have you ever looked in Max Power magazine, some of the modifications done to vehicles are absolutely unbelievable - people must have more money than sense!

Liz

isn't everyone allowed a hobby?

I do not think having my car sprayed black and a pic on the bonnet, having alloys, and a new back exhaust constitutes getting my car souped up. The red paintword is scratched to hades; the alloys cos the wheels are doing my head in more than anything else and I have not decided on them completely yet, and the exhaust - well - I like the sound of the engine.

Not souping it up yet. That's when I get work done on the engine. ;)

Dragon

Some 'souping up' efforts are a bit feeble though aren't they.

A few weeks ago I was approaching the bottom of Rutland Rd when the lights turned to red. In front of me was a white Nova with one of those 'Netto can' exhausts growling loudly and straining at the leash. On the back window was a 'MAX POWER' sticker. The driver, 20ish, in baseball cap and tapping on his door to the beat of his very loud 'sounds' was clearly raring to 'attack' the hill and demonstrate his 'awsome wheels'.

The lights turned to red and amber......he revved and revved.......moving ever closer to the point of launch...vroom, VROOM!

RED! He was off in a cloud of blue smoke and rubber. 10mph, 20, 30, 35, 36, 37,38, 39......40.....39...38...37......

So here we are. A 53 year old with a 10 stone passenger in a bog standard, 15 year old, 1.4L Renault 19. Having to slow down and trundle up the hill in second gear because I'm being held up by a 'MAX POWER' sticker.

Guess I didn't look half as stupid as Gazza 'Penelope' Pitstop in his Nova who, by the time we reached the top, was leading a queue of at least 10 cars and a 7.5 tonne lorry.

Been there - done that - both that's. Felt a proper fool when I had no power after my engine decided to be stupid. Still - I cannot complain. I have the power and so enjoy burning off those stupid Nova racers. Grrrrr! I am resisting the temptation more and more these days, of course.

I have to control the speed I set off when the lights change to green.

Dragon

I suspect this bloke's Nova never had the power. Maybe the weight of the 'MAX POWER' sticker was the straw that broke the camel's back.:P

My eldest son gets Max Power regularly and he's often asked me to put his free sticker in the car.:loopy: I tell him, "Get stuffed!" I mean, you don't carry a tennis racket if you can't play tennis do you?

Any way, my trusty old Renault 19 is a match for most 'souped up' £50 bargains with half of Netto/Halfords nailed on. And it's quiet.:thumbsup:

I dunno, I just like doing it :) Body-wise I just like it to be unique and something I like and different from everyone else. But power-wise, well just means you can accelerate faster which is far more useful than just being able to go fast.

My car (see sig) is being sold cos it's just not quick enough without putting serious money in :)

Oh yeah, don't have a loud stereo, don't wear a baseball cap and I don't listen to dance music ;) ...just to get the stereotypes out of the way :D

The other thing that amuses me, today coming back onto the A61 south at Bowshaw roundabout being chased by this brand new red Audi A3, obviously the guy must have spent around £20-£25k on it. Me in a car worth little over £2k left him standing, then he comes flying past me later on and he must have been doing around 120+!!

this is a funny thread, last night, leaving Meadowhall i heard a big booming exhaust, it was an N plate Micra, big silly exhaust, daft lad at the wheel, i was in a small hatchback, and he was trying to show off to his chav mates, he simply could not keep pace with the normal flow of traffic, but he was making all the noises, as ordinary (good) cars went wafting by...:hihi:

Originally posted by UnkleBob
this is a funny thread, last night, leaving Meadowhall i heard a big booming exhaust, it was an N plate Micra, big silly exhaust, daft lad at the wheel, i was in a small hatchback, and he was trying to show off to his chav mates, he simply could not keep pace with the normal flow of traffic, but he was making all the noises, as ordinary (good) cars went wafting by...:hihi:

:P :P :P :P

Probably drives faster on grass..........................or weed, or ganja or whatever it's called lately.:D

My Mondeo aint a sporty BMW but the bloke I bought it from tuned it up to get the most from the little 1.8L engine so I cannot really complain. Yep - I want the noisy exhaust. I love the sound my engine makes. From a purr to a growl, but unlike a rottweiler (ie much faster cars that are on the road) I want mine to sound like a Lion. She may be slow and heavy but she will stop at nothing.

Another thread there - or a reworking of one that has already been done - what is your car - male, female, or just a car? Have you given it a name as well as a gender? Mine is Cass simply cos according to legend she was the person who made prophecies that no-one believed. My car prophecies that she does not care if there are bigger, faster, prettier cars on the road - she is still the best so nurr.

Dragon

Im not a big fan of 'suping' up cars. I dont mind it, but its not something Ive ever done myself. Specially when people supe up cars that are slow, to give them the impression that it is fast. Ie your Novas and your Corsas.

Im planning on buying a Subaru Impreza next week, thats the type of car I like, the only extras that I ever get done is a stereo, and some window tints. I dont ever change things like exhaust and Wheels As If I didnt like the ones that were on the car I wouldnt have bought it in the 1st place.

Except some people start with a car they can afford and then improve it as they are able. And other poeople change their views and want to change aspects of their car that they are not crazy about but have had to put up with.

Anyhow - Is your car going to be a he or a she?

Dragon

Originally posted by spyro2000
I'm planning on buying a Subaru Impreza next week

spryro2000 - Can we please keep this quiet from crunchie! :hihi:

Why for the love of god why do people do this???

I dont understand all this Max Power, people throwing kit onto their nova's and then going out on cruises ****.

Is it me or is this just for chavs to do to impress underage lasses??
I dont know really.

I just thing its all boring and pointless, and I can think of many other things in live to do much better than go improving an already ****e car.

Like I said before, I just dont get the whole concept.

I have no gripes about the cars that are souped up properly, ie better performance and improved looks. Some of them look and sound great.

However, I do think there is something naff about a car with bits stuck on 'because the owner has seen the bits on a car in a mag'. Let's face it, a scrap value Nova will never look, or sound, like a '57 Chevy if it's got blue neons, blue washer nozzles and no badges.

It's all a big beyond my ken.

You can only go as fast as the car in front of you, anyway.

For me, a car is a machine that gets you from A to B. Nothing more, nothing less.

Some cars may cost more than others, and get you from one place to another in more style or whatever.

For people who feel the same way as I do, here's the most economical way to run a car.

Buy a model that reliable (of course) and over four years old.

Change the oil regularly. Run it into the ground.

There's more money lost on fast cars and slow horses than anything else.

I find it really sad watching a nova full of chavs speeding down the road trying to look cool.. its not a porsche you are driving, its a nova.. you can tart it up to the 'max' its still a nova.

Save your cash, buy a subaru, something that looks good and I'd actually like to be seen dead in.

Not as good as a Dodge Viper GTS unfortunately, but we cant all splash out $80k on owning one.

for some people a car is just a method of transport, other people actually quite like them.

Then for some, they'd like to just buy the best they can and maintain it well, others would like to personalise it.

I don't quite understand why if you're in one of the former groups you get all upset or laugh at the latter groups.

Okay, sometimes the best they can afford is an old nova, and they then spend a little making it look nicer or drive better. No one expects it to drive like a porsche or a GT racing car.

My next car will either be a Honda S2K or a bmw z4, either way I'd quite like to put some different alloys on it, and if it's the honda have the ecu remapped and the vtec point changed.

I'll put my hand up now and say that I once had a nova, I didn't put spoilers or a loud exhaust on it, but I did put GTI bumpers and sideskirts, and SR interior in it, and lowered and stiffened suspension. It didn't go faster, but it cornered like a go-kart and it looked like something that wasn't completely embarrasing to drive, which was an improvement on the 1.2 pea green standard 1.2 look which was how I inherited it.
In hindsight, i'd have been better of saving the money, but it's a hobby like any other. If you don't have a hobby that I could laugh at, then i'll laugh at you now for having no hobby.

Couldn't agree more ANGELUS.

I buy cars usually 10 years old at least for about £500, run them for 4 years or untill the MOT cost is over £300, scrap them and buy another £500 one.

Usually works out at about £1000 every 4 years.

Never got rid due to mechanical faults yet.:thumbsup:

PS

You're looking rough lately:suspect:

Cyclone,

I agree that souping up a car is a hobby worthy of recognition.

A souped up car which looks as though some effort and imagination has been employed is worthy of praise. However, a rustbucket that has had 'bits' practically nailed on with very little planning or thought is, to say the least, unattractive and makes a car look even worse than before the work was done. Most hobbies take up more time and effort than 1 hour in total.

The comments voiced on this thread are aimed more at the drivers who stick bits on, add a noisy exhaust and then go out and imagine that their car can now burn everybody else up (and try to prove it) when in reality the extra weight has probably made a slow car even slower.

you do get some of the latter type, although give them a chance, it might be there first try.

Afterall, the first time I do things, I generally try out many different ideas and in total it looks like a bag of poo. The 2nd time or the 3rd time it all starts to come together.
I've pretty much given up on the car modding after one try though, and i did that relatively conservatively...


I might even have a picture, let me see....

goto here (http://cyclone.servehttp.com/Remote) and then follow photos - car.

The red nova started off life as a pea green nova 1.2 L

Originally posted by saxon51
Couldn't agree more ANGELUS.

I buy cars usually 10 years old at least for about £500, run them for 4 years or untill the MOT cost is over £300, scrap them and buy another £500 one.

Usually works out at about £1000 every 4 years.

Never got rid due to mechanical faults yet.:thumbsup:

PS

You're looking rough lately:suspect:

Thanks for that, you have the right idea there something I would do as wel if I could drive.

lol!

The missus is working me like a dog hence my state on my avatar :)

Suping up cars
Nobody has come up for me yet with a decent explanation as to why they mod their cars like they do.

What are you going to do with the car once its modded?
You cant legally race anywhere, unless you go on 'cruises' with the other 15 year old chavs trying to emulate the fast and the furious.

I really do find Max Power really sad to be honest, there are better things in life to be doing rather than fantasising about being a 'street racer' or a 'modder'.

Like getting a lady and enjoying her instead.
A lot more fun and you get more out of whats called a 'grown up relationship'

Not some 14 year old bint that only likes you for your 'souped-up Nova' speeding down the road.

Are you honestly saying that your missus or whatever would be as happy being a passenger in a rustbucket with springs popping through the seats, doors falling off etc as she would in a car that looks good?

I'm not talking spoilers and 300 fog lamps but just to look as if its been cared for?

And I enjoy listening to loud music while driving in my car - it hides the whine of the engine and other random noises such as the crash of gears ;) (That's a joke by the way).

Rather than hammer chavs and such - hows about those morons who drive about in cars that belch black terrible stink from the exhausts or manage 10 mph up a gentle hill while sounding like they are losing bits of engine here and there?

Dragon

Originally posted by Dragon
Are you honestly saying that your missus or whatever would be as happy being a passenger in a rustbucket with springs popping through the seats, doors falling off etc as she would in a car that looks good?

I'm not talking spoilers and 300 fog lamps but just to look as if its been cared for?

And I enjoy listening to loud music while driving in my car - it hides the whine of the engine and other random noises such as the crash of gears ;) (That's a joke by the way).

Rather than hammer chavs and such - hows about those morons who drive about in cars that belch black terrible stink from the exhausts or manage 10 mph up a gentle hill while sounding like they are losing bits of engine here and there?

Dragon

All I will say is.. my missus would never ever be seen in one of those type of cars. She's got a lot more class than that.
- I sound proper like Derek from BB now.. apologies! lol!
Not meaning to offend anyone, but I know everything she hates and what she loves, and she hates those type of cars with a passion.

I can safely say and in all honesty, if I ever brought home a souped up nova to court her round in, she would probably dump me for being a too-old chav wannabe.

I agree with you about the morons who belch smoke out of their exhausts though, that needs sorting out pronto.

Originally posted by ANGELUS
What are you going to do with the car once its modded?
You cant legally race anywhere, unless you go on 'cruises' with the other 15 year old chavs trying to emulate the fast and the furious.


There are plenty of circuits around the country that you can legally race at and that's where the sensible people do. Also that's only one form of modding.

There are also lots of shows throughout the year to which you can go and display your car, be part of car clubs etc etc and just have a good laugh.

Personally I never go to cruises because of the stigma attached to them and the fact they always attract some idiots - not all people at cruises are like that btw! I think cruising started well before TF&TF came out, basically just a bunch of people into cars meeting up locally and discussing cars. As I said earlier there are usually a bunch of ****wits that turn up and ruin it for everyone.

If you want to understand it, get yourself somewhere like Trax in September at Silverstone which is pretty much the biggest show of the year.

Oh yeah, Max Power are a bunch of ******s and should all be shot!

To be honest I feel any one who "supe up" a car should be arrested, especially kids who are about 20 ish, im 22 I own a ford fiesta 1.1 it gets me from a to b just like a suped car would and at a cheaper rate!!This topic really gets me mad haven’t they got anything better to do than hang round car parks at night making their tires skid, wasting their mum and dads petrol money whilst trying to impress girls??
Most people ive heard about moan because they cant afford a flat or a house but then I ask the question y complain when u have wasted your money on stupid exhausts, lorry number plates(ie.not for cars) stupid side skirts and daft body resprays!! And most of the time they have a crap job(that’s when they have got one), which pays pennies so their rich mum and dad had to pay for it!! Also why buy stupid things for it to make it go faster?? England do have speed limits you know you will fined them in the hi-way code, I honestly fined it so so funny when the police pull over of stop one of these boy racers I feel it serves them right!!
Ow ye and what is the point in blacked out or tinted or whatever you call them windows fore?? Could they be hiding something?? Class A drugs maybe??
I suppose in a way they some people enjoy it as sad as it sounds! 4 years ago I put my work money in to a Disco set-up which is what I enjoy doing I built up over a year with my own money 4 years on I am a very successful DJ earning alot of money out of it!! Surely that’s better than hanging round car parks earning no money in a suped up car which you cant afford!!!!!!!! Thanks Richard!! PS. Did any 1 hear Galaxy 105 last x-mas with that save a chav song they have got it right to a T (well done hirsty)

Originally posted by DJRich
To be honest I feel any one who "supe up" a car should be arrested, especially kids who are about 20 ish, im 22 I own a ford fiesta 1.1 it gets me from a to b just like a suped car would and at a cheaper rate!!This topic really gets me mad haven’t they got anything better to do than hang round car parks at night making their tires skid, wasting their mum and dads petrol money whilst trying to impress girls??
Most people ive heard about moan because they cant afford a flat or a house but then I ask the question y complain when u have wasted your money on stupid exhausts, lorry number plates(ie.not for cars) stupid side skirts and daft body resprays!! And most of the time they have a crap job(that’s when they have got one), which pays pennies so their rich mum and dad had to pay for it!! Also why buy stupid things for it to make it go faster?? England do have speed limits you know you will fined them in the hi-way code, I honestly fined it so so funny when the police pull over of stop one of these boy racers I feel it serves them right!!
Ow ye and what is the point in blacked out or tinted or whatever you call them windows fore?? Could they be hiding something?? Class A drugs maybe??
I suppose in a way they some people enjoy it as sad as it sounds! 4 years ago I put my work money in to a Disco set-up which is what I enjoy doing I built up over a year with my own money 4 years on I am a very successful DJ earning alot of money out of it!! Surely that’s better than hanging round car parks earning no money in a suped up car which you cant afford!!!!!!!! Thanks Richard!!

A load of crap to be fair.

Many people 'supe' up care because they enjoy to do so and see it as a hobby. Theres nothing wrong with being passionate about something you enjoy. Each to their own. Im sure you have got hobbies that you enjoy whereas others wouldnt, so I dont see the problem. Im not a big fan of suping up cars either, but I can see why poeple would do it (although yes it can look very tacky)

However I do like to have tinted windows, and no I dont take drugs, wheres the connection.

wow - how intollerant are you.

I think anyone who owns a ford fiesta 1.1 should be arrested, how do you like it?

Modifying a car is not the same as misbehaving in a supermarket car park, maybe you should try to dissociate those two things in your head.
Glad to see that you think it's okay for you to have a hobby, but are happy to call other hobbies stupid, shows a nice balanced view of the world.

Originally posted by DJRich
To be honest I feel any one who "supe up" a car should be arrested, especially kids who are about 20 ish, im 22 I own a ford fiesta 1.1 it gets me from a to b just like a suped car would and at a cheaper rate!!This topic really gets me mad haven’t they got anything better to do than hang round car parks at night making their tires skid, wasting their mum and dads petrol money whilst trying to impress girls??
Most people ive heard about moan because they cant afford a flat or a house but then I ask the question y complain when u have wasted your money on stupid exhausts, lorry number plates(ie.not for cars) stupid side skirts and daft body resprays!! And most of the time they have a crap job(that’s when they have got one), which pays pennies so their rich mum and dad had to pay for it!! Also why buy stupid things for it to make it go faster?? England do have speed limits you know you will fined them in the hi-way code, I honestly fined it so so funny when the police pull over of stop one of these boy racers I feel it serves them right!!
Ow ye and what is the point in blacked out or tinted or whatever you call them windows fore?? Could they be hiding something?? Class A drugs maybe??
I suppose in a way they some people enjoy it as sad as it sounds! 4 years ago I put my work money in to a Disco set-up which is what I enjoy doing I built up over a year with my own money 4 years on I am a very successful DJ earning alot of money out of it!! Surely that’s better than hanging round car parks earning no money in a suped up car which you cant afford!!!!!!!! Thanks Richard!! PS. Did any 1 hear Galaxy 105 last x-mas with that save a chav song they have got it right to a T (well done hirsty)

Thanks, that made me laugh, It's like something Victor Meldrew might say.

Originally posted by DJRich
To be honest I feel any one who "supe up" a car should be arrested, especially kids who are about 20 ish, ...........

You really don't understand do you? It's a hobby, much like anything else. People spend money on what they want to spend it on, not what others deem fit for them to spend it on.

OK, lets see, I'm 28, I have a decent job as a web engineer for a big company, i'm just about to move into a decent flat in sheffield city centre, I don't do drugs (well other than alcohol), yadda yadda yadda.

If I want to make my car go faster then what's the problem? By your logic we should all be driving round in horse-drawn carriages because why would we want to go any faster? What's the point in motor racing in any form? What's the point of supercars? Go for a drive on the motorway, I guarantee that most of the people speeding along in the outside lane are all perfectly normal, non-modded cars.

Now onto tinted glass. It saved my friends life. Had she not had tinted glass when someone forced her off the road and her car rolled several times then the shards of glass would have ripped her to shreds. Because of the tints, it held the windscreens together and she got off with minor cuts. You can get safety glass for things just like this. Tints provide privacy, I don't want people looking through my car deciding what they can steal.

Oh yeah, I don't drive around car parks or try to impress girls with my car....and I'm not a chav.

Basically learn about the subject you're trying to slag off before doing it. You don't see me slagging off DJing do you?

If I want to make my car go faster then what's the problem? By your logic we should all be driving round in horse-drawn carriages because why would we want to go any faster? What's the point in motor racing in any form?

Well where do i start right:-
1) I have not once said owt about horse-drawn carriiages or tried to imply it in any way shape or form.

2)Motor racing should be left on the race track not braught to the public roads.

Thanks Richard

Originally posted by DJRich
If I want to make my car go faster then what's the problem? By your logic we should all be driving round in horse-drawn carriages because why would we want to go any faster? What's the point in motor racing in any form?

Well where do i start right:-
1) I have not once said owt about horse-drawn carriiages or tried to imply it in any way shape or form.

2)Motor racing should be left on the race track not braught to the public roads.

Thanks Richard

and should it be mandated that all cars accelerate at the same rate?
Or is it okay for someone to want to reach 70 faster?

You do understand that 'going faster' generally means acceleration as well as top speed?

Originally posted by DJRich
Well where do i start right:-
1) I have not once said owt about horse-drawn carriiages or tried to imply it in any way shape or form.

2)Motor racing should be left on the race track not braught to the public roads.


1. Never said you did, I said using your logic of there's no point trying to make cars go faster than the speed limit on a public road then we may as well stick to horse drawn carriages.

2. Totally agree with you!

Just because I modded my car doesn't mean I'm going to drive around flat out all the time. As standard my car can do over 140mph, my mum's Rover 214 could do over 110mph...doesn't mean to say that's what I'm going to do, modding my engine isn't going to change that. This is why track days are becoming so much more popular as more people want to see what their cars are capable off in a safe place.

Cyclone: Totally agree, my engine has a few more HP so I can accelerate quicker. Ends up being safer as you can get out at roundabouts etc more safely.

I do not see any problem im people wanting to reach 70 quicker on public roads but the way some people accelerate these so called cars do it in a unreasonable manner, which in such a manner uses more of mum and dads petrol money quicker there fore also pollutes the ozone quicker! this is explained in the hiway code!! Richard

(I would do that quote bit in a box but im not to good at stuff like that on this laptop)

Originally posted by DJRich
I do not see any problem im people wanting to reach 70 quicker on public roads but the way some people accelerate these so called cars do it in a unreasonable manner, which in such a manner uses more of mum and dads petrol money quicker there fore also pollutes the ozone quicker! this is explained in the hiway code!! Richard

Yep, but this has nothing to do with modding cars or saying why modding should be a criminal offence!? I bet my modded car pollutes nowhere near as much as an old 1.1L Fiesta! I pass the MOT with flying colours.

How do you unreasonably accelerate?

Yup, totally agree, some people are complete ****** when it comes to driving but you're tarnishing anyone who mods their car with the same brush....which is just small-minded and completely wrong.

Originally posted by DJRich
I do not see any problem im people wanting to reach 70 quicker on public roads but the way some people accelerate these so called cars do it in a unreasonable manner, which in such a manner uses more of mum and dads petrol money quicker there fore also pollutes the ozone quicker! this is explained in the hiway code!! Richard

(I would do that quote bit in a box but im not to good at stuff like that on this laptop)

Many poeple also do this in unmodded cars too so whats your point?

Originally posted by DJRich
the way some people accelerate these so called cars do it in a unreasonable manner, which in such a manner uses more of mum and dads petrol money quicker

Where did you get the idea that everyone who modifies their cars then gets their mum and dad to pay for the petrol ?

i was not trying to steer off the subject of "suped up" cars i was only posting my reply to what people said after my first opinion on the whole matter!!

Anyway, i dont know how people can slag my car off where at the end of the day all i have to do is menshon runing costs like inshurance ect. at the side of a "suped up" car! id rather not waste my money, I would rather put it towards my job.

my car isn't modded (unless you count different alloys), but i sometimes like to accelerate hard, it's fun.
It's my petrol to waste, I've paid for it and have done for over five years now (I mean since my mum or dad last put petrol in for me).
Anyway, I keep an eye on my fuel consumption, a few seconds of hard acceleration won't make that much difference when I do 100's of miles every week on the motorway.

Look at it this way... while chavs are modifying their cars, at least it keeps them busy and out of trouble, despite how unashamedly ridiculous the end product.

Originally posted by t020
Look at it this way... while chavs are modifying their cars, at least it keeps them busy and out of trouble, despite how unashamedly ridiculous the end product.

Good point yes

Originally posted by t020
Look at it this way... while chavs are modifying their cars, at least it keeps them busy and out of trouble, despite how unashamedly ridiculous the end product.

Are you implying that all modded car owners are chavs?

Originally posted by probedb
Are you implying that all modded car owners are chavs?

Or perhaps that chavs ought to be kept out of trouble.

Stop trolling.

Originally posted by Grim
Or perhaps that chavs ought to be kept out of trouble.

Stop trolling.

How is it trolling? Its a justified question

Originally posted by Grim
Or perhaps that chavs ought to be kept out of trouble.

Stop trolling.

Excuse me? I think I've been a pretty active member of this discussion!

Originally posted by Dragon
Been there - done that - both that's. Felt a proper fool when I had no power after my engine decided to be stupid. Still - I cannot complain. I have the power and so enjoy burning off those stupid Nova racers. Grrrrr! I am resisting the temptation more and more these days, of course.

I have to control the speed I set off when the lights change to green.

Dragon i was the same when i had the xr3i
just to see the look on their faces as they were hunched over the steering wheel,baseball cap spread on the windscreen,engine screeming at 65 mph as i passed them as if they were standing still,it was priceless

I dont think you lot understand, im form lincoln, i mod my car and im not a chav, iv never taken drugs of any kind, im 21 soon and iv never gotten a speeding ticket.
I have a Vauxhall vectra hatchback, not a rust bucket at all, but not a sports car.
What is wrong in driving around in something that you are proud of,a car represents the person inside, its a status symbol i guess.
When you go out to dinner or something your not goining to wear tracksuit bottons and a raggy old t-shirt are you?same wth a car, whay should i drive around in a standard car that can be identical to the car next to it at the traffic lights when i can make it one of a kind.
I dont have loads and loads of money but its my hobby and i buy what i can when i can, even saving up for stuff.
Sure i agree that you get the 'chavs' and 'townies' who think there cool listening to their music really loud on systems that obviosly cant handle it and distort with their windows down causing touble doing wheel spins etc (not that you can in a nova), theres another thing, you dont see that many modded novas around on the scene, you must just have alot in sheffield.
So you get that lot, then yo get my group of ppl who meet up, with concent from the seurity of the carpoark owners (and if we dont meet p in a carpark, where else is there, we'v all got cars), we dont **** around doing burnouts ec, we look at eachothers cars, and generally chill and talk to our mates, or would you prefer we do this in the middle of the dy so you can get into the carpark.
I have an expensive and big system in my car, but i love music i live for it and i can even plug my bass guitar into it, i have nice light clusters on the fornt and back, i have safety window tints cus they hide all my stuff inside and you cant smash the windows, sorry no drugs to hide.
I have an exhaust thats not loud its deep, big difference you cant hear me a mile off.i have a carbon fiber bonnet, 18" black alloys and varous colours LED strips inside the car.
Is that ok with you or should i be arrested and thrown in jail for it.
Dont be so narrow minded as to commit a whole hobby to a single steriotype
Jo

Originally posted by cypher
I dont think you lot understand, im form lincoln, i mod my car and im not a chav, iv never taken drugs of any kind, im 21 soon and iv never gotten a speeding ticket.
I have a Vauxhall vectra hatchback, not a rust bucket at all, but not a sports car.
What is wrong in driving around in something that you are proud of,a car represents the person inside, its a status symbol i guess.
When you go out to dinner or something your not goining to wear tracksuit bottons and a raggy old t-shirt are you?same wth a car, whay should i drive around in a standard car that can be identical to the car next to it at the traffic lights when i can make it one of a kind.
I dont have loads and loads of money but its my hobby and i buy what i can when i can, even saving up for stuff.
Sure i agree that you get the 'chavs' and 'townies' who think there cool listening to their music really loud on systems that obviosly cant handle it and distort with their windows down causing touble doing wheel spins etc (not that you can in a nova), theres another thing, you dont see that many modded novas around on the scene, you must just have alot in sheffield.
So you get that lot, then yo get my group of ppl who meet up, with concent from the seurity of the carpoark owners (and if we dont meet p in a carpark, where else is there, we'v all got cars), we dont **** around doing burnouts ec, we look at eachothers cars, and generally chill and talk to our mates, or would you prefer we do this in the middle of the dy so you can get into the carpark.
I have an expensive and big system in my car, but i love music i live for it and i can even plug my bass guitar into it, i have nice light clusters on the fornt and back, i have safety window tints cus they hide all my stuff inside and you cant smash the windows, sorry no drugs to hide.
I have an exhaust thats not loud its deep, big difference you cant hear me a mile off.i have a carbon fiber bonnet, 18" black alloys and varous colours LED strips inside the car.
Is that ok with you or should i be arrested and thrown in jail for it.
Dont be so narrow minded as to commit a whole hobby to a single steriotype
Jo

As long as you don't drive with your loud exhaust and crank up the music while other people are trying to sleep it is ok. Otherwise, you may wish to check your warranty for your safety windows to see if it covers flying bricks and assorted garden tools. :D

And also that you've advised your insurance company because any modification can invalidate it if you don't tell them

I think a lot of the discussion here comes from perception issues, I'm sure you are a fine upstanding member of the community but I'm afraid that's not the image that the "scene" has... I think the chav word has been done to death, but it's the easiest way to get across what people think of the average person driving around one of these cars!

I'd hazard a guess that an awful lot of people really do see their car as a method of transport (and maybe this comes with age, after the initial novelty of driving wears off?), and are perfectly happy to look just like everyone else at traffic lights. Although I'm sure if you offered them a whizzy convertible, they wouldn't mind being seen to be different in that :) This doesn't really justify the rather excessive hatred seen in this thread though - it's just a hobby, do you really do nothing in your spare time people on here might laugh at? I know I do! ;)

Incidentally, do any of the people criticising cars here do any computer modding? That's a good parallel, people spend lots of time and money making their computer go faster or look better! For some it's useful, but for others it's just something they choose to do - and plenty of folks just see their computer as a way of getting a job done. I'm sure the percentage of people who've upgraded their computer when they don't *really* need to must include some people criticising the car scene!

Originally posted by rich951
Incidentally, do any of the people criticising cars here do any computer modding? That's a good parallel, people spend lots of time and money making their computer go faster or look better! For some it's useful, but for others it's just something they choose to do - and plenty of folks just see their computer as a way of getting a job done. I'm sure the percentage of people who've upgraded their computer when they don't *really* need to must include some people criticising the car scene!

Indeed very true. I use computers all day every day pretty much but I never wanted to mod my PC. Then again I have no problem with people doing that. It comes down to image...it's cool (for most people) to like football but not cool to be a train spotter. At the end of the day they're both just hobbies which people enjoy.

I suggest anyone that disagrees with modding cars then get yourself to somewhere like Trax at Silverstone and have a wander around. There also tends to be lots of local meets. Last one was at the Bubble Inn south (?) of Derby on Sunday, lots and lots of cars turned up and all for charity!

Originally posted by Chicago
As long as you don't drive with your loud exhaust and crank up the music while other people are trying to sleep it is ok. Otherwise, you may wish to check your warranty for your safety windows to see if it covers flying bricks and assorted garden tools. :D

Yes totaly agree they deserve it when you hear them going down the road at stupid hours in the night they dont realise that people have something called a job to have to wake up fore in the morening.(we dont all live off mum and dad)

Originally posted by cypher
I dont think you lot understand, im form lincoln, i mod my car and im not a chav, iv never taken drugs of any kind, im 21 soon and iv never gotten a speeding ticket.

Can you answer yes to the following questions? (i can)

Do you have a good ample abount of money in your bank account?

Do you own a house / flat?

Can you afford a house / flat?

Can you afford a mortgage?

Im shure the answer is no because you cant afford it and i wonder why when you weist money on cars like that the best place for them is under the cutters torch.

Originally posted by DJRich
Can you answer yes to the following questions? (i can)

Do you have a good ample abount of money in your bank account?

Do you own a house / flat?

Can you afford a house / flat?

Can you afford a mortgage?

Im shure the answer is no because you cant afford it and i wonder why when you weist money on cars like that the best place for them is under the cutters torch.

I can answer yes to all of those, and if I particularly wanted too I could go out tomorrow and start modding my car.
Get over your predjudices and stop stereotyping everyone.

You could probably say that I make minor modifications in fact, as once i've bought a honda s2000 i'm going to change the standard alloys and have the windows tinted!

Can you answer yes to all those questions?

Originally posted by DJRich
(we dont all live off mum and dad)

Your a bit obsessed with this idea arn't you, even though several people have posted saying they work for a living and mod their cars.

well i think its daft when you put all the performance parts on a 1litre car but if you have a car that is worthy of performance parts then it should be souped up i have a punto 1.4 GT Turbo and i have left the car standard from the outside and just made mods to engine and suspension and there is no max power stickers or the exaust.com stickers.:hihi: :hihi:

Originally posted by DJRich
Can you answer yes to the following questions? (i can)

Do you have a good ample abount of money in your bank account?

Do you own a house / flat?

Can you afford a house / flat?

Can you afford a mortgage?

Im shure the answer is no because you cant afford it and i wonder why when you weist money on cars like that the best place for them is under the cutters torch.

Mortgage? Borrowing money to pay for something, how poor are you! Perhaps you shouldn't have wasted so much money, buying a computer to post messages on this forum, and saved up to buy your house/flat.

Why do people have to conform to your views on what is a good use of their money?

Originally posted by Cyclone


Can you answer yes to all those questions?

If you can read i put im brakets (i can) this means i can afford any of the following questions!!

Originally posted by Dragon

Rather than hammer chavs and such - hows about those morons who drive about in cars that belch black terrible stink from the exhausts or manage 10 mph up a gentle hill while sounding like they are losing bits of engine here and there?

Dragon

Ah, but those cabbies and bus drivers are doing such sterling work...

The modified car thing has always been with us. Almost since the motor car was invented owners have been looking for ways to make them look different, go faster and sound more boomtastic. In the USA it had an early heyday with the hot rod and custom boom of the 1920s, which accelerated when many young men came back from WW2 with adrenaline pumping and money in their pockets to find a plentiful supply of cheap pre-war cars. In fact this was mirrored in the UK where young blades could literally pick up an early 1930s MG for a fiver, chop its body about and tune the motor, to make something resembling a sportscar - or what was coyly known as a 'special'.

Nowadays things have gathered pace. The modified car scene has its own media outlets and has divided into tribes. These diffuse interest groups don't necessarily understand each other, but there is crossover between them. Some go for styling, some for performance, others for ICE, or in-car entertainment. Many go for a bit of all these. Some like to hang around in packs admiring each others' creations and acquiring seemingly identical teenage blonde girlfriends in push-up bras. These cut-price Rod Stewarts call their activity 'cruising'. These, and others, like to go to car shows where they admire each others' creations, wander round with seemingly identical blonde teenagers and admire Jordan and Tim Westwood on a stage.

At shows there is often a concours event, from the old concours d'elegance. Elegance might have fallen away a bit now, but these are people prepared to literally polish the treads of their tyres to gain a cleanliness award.

The ultimate modified car is a racing version of a standard machine. Some are created for track days - open access events on race tracks - and others for actual competition. There is a high degree of accomplished engineering involved here.

Why do people modify cars? Many tell me they "did it to be different", although their individualism qualifies them for membership of a tribe. Others because they like motorsport. And others actually enjoy the creative process as a kind of art. Many US custom cars are more moving sculpture than automobile.

So I advise people to do what I do when I see some particularly horrible modified monstrosity crawling noisily up Abbeydale Road, its stereo almost more powerful than the engine. First I have a little laugh, then I nod a little understanding for the wistful endeavour of the Nova-piloting Charlie behind the wheel. In this benighted world of broken illusions and sanitised ambitions, at least he dares to live his dream a little, no matter how crappy it is.

Originally posted by sniperwookie
Mortgage? Borrowing money to pay for something, how poor are you! Perhaps you shouldn't have wasted so much money, buying a computer to post messages on this forum, and saved up to buy your house/flat.

I was asking the person trying to pull me down these questions and as i said to the other person i put in brakets (I can) which odviously means what it says!! PS.i do have my own house which is fully paid for buy guess who??Answer:- ME

along with house inshurance, wide flat screen TV, this computer etc.

Originally posted by DJRich
along with house inshurance, wide flat screen TV, this computer etc.

Man, you are RICH, I'm so impressed.

Edit. I see where you are from, that explains a lot.

Originally posted by DJRich
I was asking the person trying to pull me down these questions and as i said to the other person i put in brakets (I can) which odviously means what it says!! PS.i do have my own house which is fully paid for buy guess who??Answer:- ME

along with house inshurance, wide flat screen TV, this computer etc.

what a waste of money, why did you buy all that rubbish when you could have been modifying your car.

sarcasm gets you nowear it how you spend your money and what you spend it on, which to me is defanatly not side skirts ect.

Originally posted by DJRich
Can you answer yes to the following questions? (i can)

Do you have a good ample abount of money in your bank account?

Do you own a house / flat?

Can you afford a house / flat?

Can you afford a mortgage?

Ok i can answer these wuestions

I have plenty of money in my account, like i say im not rich but i have enought for me
I atually own 3 houses and rent them out, and they pay for themselves
and daddy doesnt pay for a thing, even though he has offered, i like to work for what get, i dont take freebees!
What is wrong with modding a car, nothing, i agree that if you drive around all night with you system up then yeah, you should (ad in lincoln if your disturbing the peace you do) get pulled over.
also i dont apreciate the threats of having bricks thrown at me, if you did, i ring the police, then we see whos side their on!
And yes ALL my modifications are declared on my insurance, do you think i would spend over 4K on my car then drie around and know im getting nothing back if i stack it!
Jo

Originally posted by DJRich
sarcasm gets you nowear it how you spend your money and what you spend it on, which to me is defanatly not side skirts ect.

What has any of this got to do with money and how much we earn? Nothing that's what, so why do you keep repeatedly bringing the subject up?

Now let me state the topic for you again - "Why do people "supe up" cars?"

Where does it says anything about money?

Originally posted by cypher
I atually own 3 houses and rent them out, and they pay for themselves

To take the the thread off topic slightly, you own 3 houses and your only 20 :o I must be doing something wrong :suspect:

Originally posted by cypher
I have plenty of money in my account, like i say im not rich but i have enought for me
I atually own 3 houses and rent them out, and they pay for themselves


But have you got a flat screen TV ?

Originally posted by cypher
Ok i can answer these wuestions

I have plenty of money in my account, like i say im not rich but i have enought for me
I atually own 3 houses and rent them out,

[i]But have you got a flat screen TV ? [/B]



Yes have you got a flat screen TV??
God ive just had right good idea its gonna b the new fashon for "suped up" cars i mean y dint i think of it before instead of weisting your money on side skits and stupid bad boy bonnets y not have a flatscreen tv fixd to your car??

Cumon with all them houses there only around £2000 from Audiovision

God y do i even bother with discos and pub quizes if i knew there was such a big gap in the car "suep up" market

Originally posted by DJRich
Yes have you got a flat screen TV??
God ive just had right good idea its gonna b the new fashon for "suped up" cars i mean y dint i think of it before instead of weisting your money on side skits and stupid bad boy bonnets y not have a flatscreen tv fixd to your car??


I've got a 42" LCD TV does that count, but they are quite cheap at the moment.
They already have LCD TV that you can put in your car, lots of top of the range cars have them built in.

Get with the times man.

Originally posted by DJRich
sarcasm gets you nowear it how you spend your money and what you spend it on, which to me is defanatly not side skirts ect.

oh - so you do agree then that people are free to spend their money however they like, and that we shouldn't judge them for doing so... I'm sorry, it just seemed like you were being really judgemental earlier, I'm sure it was all just a big mix up.

Nick beat me to replying about lcd's in the car, they've been around for a while. You've probably not seen them because you were too busy saving to buy your house and flat screen tele.

Yes 42 is fine but its gotta b sony if it aint then well u will av to put it wi your "suped up" car when it goes to the scrap yard.

As4 the modern cars i dont mean toes little things i mean a proper 42" sony fiexd to da bonnet or somert and you could wire the speakers to your getto blaster incar sound system so where ever you go u will av a "suped up" car with a flat screen TV fixed to it god your gonna look soooo amazing

Well i also know about these LCD's in cars because out of bordem oneday i wached a veary chavy program on the flatscreen called pimp my ride (u may not av eard of it its on sky) and they put em into cars then!! bu how stupid was i 4 waching a chav program and secondly i cud av bin out buying another 42" flatscreen to go on da bonnet of my fiesta i mean cum on its gonna put dronfield back on the map (HA HA)

Originally posted by DJRich
Yes 42 is fine but its gotta b sony if it aint then well u will av to put it wi your "suped up" car when it goes to the scrap yard.


Sony is overrated, bought by people who are more into brand names and badges than actual quality, they use the same components as LG.

P.s. Dronfield is already on the map, it's marked as "Dronfield Park and Ride for Sheffield".

Originally posted by nick2
Dronfield is already on the map, it's marked as "Dronfield Park and Ride for Sheffield".

Thats y theys so many idiots around in there "suped up" cars mined u good traid for them flatscreens!!

PS. The best thing about sheffield is the road out!! and also on da park and ride thing i c y its to risky leaveing a car in sheffield!! (thats disincludeing the community of Dore where i do one of my music and trivia quizzes at!!)

Originally posted by DJRich
and also on da park and ride thing i c y its to risky leaveing a car in sheffield!!

I'm sorry, I only speak English.

I read this article a while back and it could be a cheap method for improving engine performance:

Obsession: Mr. Singh’s Search for the Holy Grail (http://www.popsci.com/popsci/futurecar/article/0,20967,679464,00.html)

The modification improved performance and the inventor was able to keep his car in fourth gear at 500 rpms without sputtering or pinging.

I'm not a machinist, so I don't know the difficulty level of doing the modifications. However, if I had an old car that I wanted to experiment with, this would be an interesting weekend project to see how well it works.

:thumbsup:

there is nothing wrong with any modifications to cars as long as they are done tastefull, unlife all the chavs you see in suped up corsa's

I use to supe up my two wheel bike when i was a youngster, we use to put carboard in between the spokes, sounded great !

Originally posted by nick2
Man, you are RICH, I'm so impressed.

Edit. I see where you are from, that explains a lot.

Psst - being a 'foreigner' to your area, is Dronfield an affluent area?

Originally posted by amhudson119
Psst - being a 'foreigner' to your area, is Dronfield an affluent area?

No, it's not. I detected (as usual with nick2) a hint of sarcasm in his post.

Having just read through this thread, the only conclusion I can reach is that it makes them feel good wasting time playing around with their car - the end result is usually awful.

C****ns!

Originally posted by DJRich
Yes 42 is fine but its gotta b sony if it aint then well u will av to put it wi your "suped up" car when it goes to the scrap yard.

As4 the modern cars i dont mean toes little things i mean a proper 42" sony fiexd to da bonnet or somert and you could wire the speakers to your getto blaster incar sound system so where ever you go u will av a "suped up" car with a flat screen TV fixed to it god your gonna look soooo amazing

That's right - watch television, and allow your concentration to drift off onto the latest happenings on a mediocre soap - smart move.

Oh good, I'm glad our car fits in with the Sony - we have a Sony CDP.

:R

Originally posted by amhudson119
Having just read through this thread, the only conclusion I can reach is that it makes them feel good wasting time playing around with their car - the end result is usually awful.

C****ns!

what's your favourite hobby?

I ask so that I can call it a waste of time and then call you and anyone else that does it something offensive.
I expect you achieve very little through your hobbies as well, as no doubt you're not particularly good at them.

Originally posted by Cyclone
what's your favourite hobby?

I ask so that I can call it a waste of time and then call you and anyone else that does it something offensive.
I expect you achieve very little through your hobbies as well, as no doubt you're not particularly good at them.

How can you say that my hobby is also my job!! and the achivements are very awarding ie.money!! as as for not been particuarly good at them well... i work 6 nights a week do 5 pub quizzes and 1 night club and thats 4 and ongoing at the moment!! its also more constructive than messing about driveing round in a "suped up" car all night.

Originally posted by DJRich
How can you say that my hobby is also my job!! and the achivements are very awarding ie.money!! as as for not been particuarly good at them well... i work 6 nights a week do 5 pub quizzes and 1 night club and thats 4 and ongoing at the moment!! its also more constructive than messing about driveing round in a "suped up" car all night.

And thats your opinion.

If people want to supte up cars let them, if you want to work 6 nights a week and do pub quizzes then thats up to you. I personally would prefer to choose suping up cars as my hobby than what you do. Is there anything wrong with that?

People want to be different, there are a couple of hundred thousand of each car on our streets, so some people want to be different. I fit window tints for a living the more people that have it done the better in my view

Here is a "Campbells Supe" Car (http://www.thepedalcar.com/campbells%20soup%20car.jpg)!

Originally posted by Tintsexpert
People want to be different, there are a couple of hundred thousand of each car on our streets, so some people want to be different. I fit window tints for a living the more people that have it done the better in my view

Good for your business and your pocket yes, but if everyone gets it done then they wont look any different will they :confused:

p.s. What kind of charges do you charge, I need a good Tint window expert, I have paid some crazy prices in the past :clap: