Hi folks

After chatting with a few of the regulars it would seem there's quite a bit of interest in doing a late night to early morning walk. So am happy to organise and run one.

The walk will be approx 9-10 miles long and will start at Fox House heading to Longshaw Estate-White edge-Baslow edge-Curbar edge-Frogatt edge-Tegness-Longshaw estate finishing back at Fox house.

Walk will be on a Friday night, meeting at Fox house at around 2100 first for a drink and pos food for those who wish and starting the actually walk(legless or not) between 2200 and 2300.. And finishing between 0500 and 0600. So allowing those who used public transport to come along and then get home.

The walk it's self is general easy going BUT will be some what more adventurous under night conditions as am sure you all will understand..

You will all need a few extra clothing items to keep warm during the night a headlamp and would also suggest bring a flask with a hot drink or a stove etc to make one.


DATE IS NOW SET TO 30th of October...

For those attending if you don't have a headlamp I have loads spare, So please if you need one just ask...


regards
Lohtse

I'll be there. What a novelty - being out at night and sober!!:hihi:

Yep, we'll be there Lohtse! are matchsticks to keep eyes open an optional extra?!?!

This sounds great! Count me in. Though yes, a serious power nap will be needed friday afternoon :)

Hopefully it might be my Saturday to work, so therefore I will have a proper excuse :(

Hopefully it might be my Saturday to work, so therefore I will have a proper excuse :(

Poor excuse!!!!! I know no matter which Friday it's on in November I'm either teaching or on duty on the Saturday!!!! Oh I forget your a little older so need you ugly sleep LOL :D :D :D :D :D :D

Yes Please count me in on this one.

where do i sign up. !

where do i sign up. !

You just did lol:hihi::hihi::hihi:

*goes off to test headtorch*

Not sure about this personally, I like my Friday nights in too much however I do have a headtorch if anyone needs to borrow one.

It does make one look like a ****head though :)

Are you sure you have leave from Tracey Island on a Friday night.

Lol who!!!!?????

Sorry Lohtse forgot to mention your name

Let you off!! at your age you can't help yourself!!! :-D

At my age pal I have done it all and anything else is not worth doing.

Unfortunately I turn into a fruit bat at midnight, so I better pass on this one.

We can take apples and oranges for you then.... lol

Ok, dilemna over thanks to date chosen! Part of me wanted to come, seriously, but a holiday already booked takes priority. Hope it's a fair evening, and you don't get wet.

I could always change the date just for you Scoobz:hihi::hihi:

Put me down for 2 head torches

Put me down for 2 head torches

One for the front of your head, and one for the back?

NO :P :hihi::hihi:

I could always change the date just for you Scoobz:hihi::hihi:

I'd moved from 25% likely, to 75% tonight before I saw the date, and was prepared to be persuaded, but don't expect you to change the date just for us.

I'd moved from 25% likely, to 75% tonight before I saw the date, and was prepared to be persuaded, but don't expect you to change the date just for us.

Awww, I'm easy to be moved to another date, & as this is the 2nd time you've mentioned the date, methinks you are really hankering to have it changed, Scoobz - is my crystal ball right?!?!

Count me in on whatever night is decided on, and i'll need a headlamp please Lohste.

Count me in on whatever night is decided on, and i'll need a headlamp please Lohste.

No problem.....

For anyone considering buying a headtorch in the near future you should take a look at the Alpkit ones.
http://www.alpkit.com/gamma/
Top piece of kit, inexpensive compared to the Petzl ones etc and from a company whos customer service is second to none.
I need to order another as i left mine on top of my mates car after a night walk over the great ridge though i have a spare if i can make this walk. :blush:

Ps, i have no link to the company.

Awww, I'm easy to be moved to another date, & as this is the 2nd time you've mentioned the date, methinks you are really hankering to have it changed, Scoobz - is my crystal ball right?!?!

As Eclair was the keenest person to want to do this walk, it's only fair to fit it around when she can get. Be best not to change it just for my benefit, but if there's a date which also suits Eclair, then yes I'll put my name down!

I would have put my name down as, I know for sure, that it would bring back memories of my many night navigational exercises with the forces.

Unfortunately, I cannot attend as it clashes with a charity halloween ball that I've organised. My pressence is required elsewhere.

As Eclair was the keenest person to want to do this walk, it's only fair to fit it around when she can get. Be best not to change it just for my benefit, but if there's a date which also suits Eclair, then yes I'll put my name down!

Thanks for that scoobz, I am always up for a challange me :hihi::hihi::hihi::hihi: as it is my work weekend, dont change the date as november as i can only do the following weeks due to things i have got on then we are into chrimbo.xx

No excuses now Scoobz - date change just for you & Billysmum - no need for 'A' Monk on now!!!! :D

Blooming heck, what can I say. Under pressure or what :(. Incidentally, anybody any idea how much a room costs at Fox House - just in case BM bottles out let me add!

£44 for a double, including breakfast! :D
..... we could go in our camper........

..... we could go in our camper........

Flippin eck we now have a support team!!!!! I know the route but didn't think it need this lol.They must know something I don'T=t!!!!!!......Mind you I'd like to see them drive it on top of the edges LOL:hihi::hihi::hihi:

Flippin eck we now have a support team!!!!! I know the route but didn't think it need this lol.They must know something I don'T=t!!!!!!......Mind you I'd like to see them drive it on top of the edges LOL:hihi::hihi::hihi:

Oh, you've seen Mr Hemlock's driving then?!:D

Ooops, must have been a mix-up with dates - can't actually make this date - checked the dates I gave & 20th was one I couldn't do sorry!:(
Oh well.....

Ooops, must have been a mix-up with dates - can't actually make this date - checked the dates I gave & 20th was one I couldn't do sorry!:(
Oh well.....

Too late now, your names down!

Too late now, your names down!

No can do that date. Only others in November were 13th, which is out cos of the date being unlucky & 27th. So, enjoy & I'll have monk on instead!!

Well, here we go again with a dilemna. Who's going to be disappointed?
Firstly though, what's wrong with Friday 13th? Come on, it's only a date.
Secondly, if anyone should miss out it's me, cos I said I wasn't interested in the first place, so to be honest, I'd rather it be put back to the original date and us miss out, than someone who'd got their name down first.
Not sure which weeks Eclaire can make it though, cos I couldn't understand her post :huh:

where n when is this walk cus im intrested in it i did a 17 mile night walk a few months bk n wud love to another 1

After discussing it, BM and myself will only go on this one if it can be arranged for a date that Hemlock, Eclaire, Lohtse and anyone else who's put their names down in the first instance can get, so if that means putting it back to 29th October, we'd rather you do that. We'll go on the next one instead!

where n when is this walk cus im intrested in it i did a 17 mile night walk a few months bk n wud love to another 1

Do us a favour danny-uk, please don't use text talk. Thank you.

I'll try my best to make it whatever the date, as i'd be the newbie anyway i wouldn't mind if the date was changed to one i couldn't make, there's always next time.

i am so difficult i can only make the following week which is the 6th November, due to a trip to scarborough and other things on it is possibly really hard to work round me as i only have every other weekend. keep it at that date you cannot keep moving dates for a couple of people.

Well, we seem to be in a stalemate position over the date of this walk - no-one wants to make a decision about when it is.
i suggest that if Scoobz, Billysmum & lohtse can all make it on 6th November when eclaire can go, then make it then. If not, then whichever date is best for everyone else - 30th October or 20th November.
Ball in your court!

That's it folks..... Am having a paddy and stomping my feet.... :P Will return to original date(hemlock please change etc) If you wish to do the walk only place you names if YOU CAN DEFINITELY MAKE IT.....

If you need a headlamp let me know and also have a few flasks people can borrow if they wish too..


regards
Lohtse

Definitely doing this walk, Which ever date it is.
No kit needed for me, thanks lohtse

Apologies to anybody who might be inconvenienced by this, but the walk is back at the 30th October. As Lohtse has said in his last post, can definite's only now post again to confirm that they can make it.

Count me in, still need a headlamp please Lohse.

If it is settled for 30th October then count me in (+ 1), need 2 hedlamps though please :)

i definetly want to do this.
At the moment my van is off the road needing repairs for the mot and i'm stuck in bed with man flu, if my van isn't sorted by then i'd be grateful of a lift from the city rd area or city centre.
Once my van is sorted i'd be happy to provide lifts for all the other walks, 6 seats.

i definetly want to do this.
At the moment my van is off the road needing repairs for the mot and i'm stuck in bed with man flu, if my van isn't sorted by then i'd be grateful of a lift from the city rd area or city centre.
Once my van is sorted i'd be happy to provide lifts for all the other walks, 6 seats.
Geoff.

Hi Mega Location chosen to allow all to be able to get there there are several buses to foxhouse 272 being one of them....Just come along and have a laugh...



Armani Girl no problems with headlamps....

For those with a mapping system or gps system here's the route for uploading to your device....

http://www.adrive.com/public/f0fda10a0ad9f056fe9aa4c6318a3b63a2ed7dba736b7e3881 57afda9fb6629a.html GPX file

http://www.adrive.com/public/892d7208b9eac203795e072766ae6fa97df2e6d5eb5ac5392f 23d799de41d9c6.htmlMMO file

http://www.adrive.com/public/599b704f1046fa0720c10028e5bdb8a3058a8121edb25d6994 8c21ba006821e6.html KML file

GPX file is standard for all GPS's mmo is for memory map software and KML is for Google earth..

Hi Lohtse, I've mended my internet connection at last!!!
There are definately 2 of us coming on this one, both needing headlights. I will let you know if more are coming later. Looking forward to it! Does chocolate contain caffene? If so, lots needs to be adminstered - for medical purposes:D

We will pick you up & drop you back off - not really going in the camper!

Does chocolate contain caffene? If so, lots needs to be adminstered - for medical purposes:D
!

Well as it's a medical purpose I may need to carry very large quantities LOL:hihi::hihi:

Hi Mega Location chosen to allow all to be able to get there there are several buses to foxhouse 272 being one of them....Just come along and have a laugh...



Armani Girl no problems with headlamps....

any idea what time the first bus back to sheffield is. ?

any idea what time the first bus back to sheffield is. ?

Sorry I don't, but I'm sure someone will be able to drop you off....

For those with a mapping system or gps system here's the route for uploading to your device....

http://www.adrive.com/public/f0fda10a0ad9f056fe9aa4c6318a3b63a2ed7dba736b7e3881 57afda9fb6629a.html GPX file

http://www.adrive.com/public/892d7208b9eac203795e072766ae6fa97df2e6d5eb5ac5392f 23d799de41d9c6.htmlMMO file

GPX file is standard for all GPS's mmo is for memory map software

oooh errrrrr...... 10.1 miles in the middle of the night, hope my feet don't get cold:help:

Don't worry Hemmy it's all flat(apart from the little incline). LOL :-)

Tiddles and Zippy will you still be joining us all???

Don't worry Hemmy it's all flat(apart from the little incline). LOL :-)

is the little incline up froggatt edge by any chance! :D

is the little incline up froggatt edge by any chance! :D

Only if we get lost......!!!!

Still needing some confirmations folks..Let me know asap.. And if you require an additional gear please say..


regards
Lohtse

Still coming - 2 of us - need some head torches. Think I have everything else......

Hi sorry I can no longer make this one.. :(

I'll be there and still need a headlamp.

I'll be there if I can get a lift from anyone please. And I will need to borrow a headlamp of it's the ciggie lighter for me. :hihi:

If anyone can offer me a lift I would be very grateful. I can meet in town, on the tram route or Gleadless Town End. Thank you

I'm going to have to pull out of this one too. I'll be up for a night wal in summer - especially if it's around solstice time. But I'm afraid I hibernate in winter.

Sorry Lohtse, I know how much effort you've put into this but I'm afriad I won't be able to make it now.

walk now cancelled

Why is it cancelled. ?
Damn, i was looking forward to this. :(

But Lohtse, I thought you would be making us all some hot chocolate on your magic stove in the middle of the night! :)

You take care and hopefully we'll see you soon.

:wave::wave:

So no answer as to why it was cancelled. ?
Since i posted my question i've read the infighting posts from the previous walk, is this to do with that. ?
Forgive me if i've missed something but my initial reaction to all this was "how petty."
Will prospective new members be welcomed at the "clear the air" meeting, just so we know the rules mind. ?
What a shamebles.

This is the fourth such incident that I'm aware of (so there may be more)

We went out with the group in its infancy, but when it became evident that the rules any normal group of walkers would adhere to weren't present in this group, we chose to return to our own walks

This internet group was set up such that ANYBODY could do their own walks and report and post pics afterwards, discuss walking topics etc, but the emphasis shifted to one specific group of people posting only on walks arranged on the forum boards - so it's no longer the internet space it once was

Some of us make our own arrangements with other forumers these days ;)

Too the two posters above.... Firstly...... Am not always able to get online as soon as someone posts as I actually have a life and a job and both are somewhat more important than posting replies at someones whim........ So stand down and give people time to do so, just take a look at the time this reply has been placed (04.38)and this is due to actaully find time during my DUTY PERIOD.. As too the second posters comments DON'T hijack someone else post to air your concerns or grievances.... Keep them for a threat that is for that purpose.....

Regards
Lohtse

Now as to why the night walk has been cancelled this is due to myself having to now be on DUTY on the date of the night walk and has NOTHING to do with any current problems with other groups. SO DON'T MAKE ASSUMPTIONS TILL YOU KNOW THE FACTS.......

So no answer as to why it was cancelled. ?
Since i posted my question i've read the infighting posts from the previous walk, is this to do with that. ?
Forgive me if i've missed something but my initial reaction to all this was "how petty."
Will prospective new members be welcomed at the "clear the air" meeting, just so we know the rules mind. ?
What a shamebles.

Hi Megalithic,
Sorry your question wasn't answered sooner, but as this was a walk organised by an individual, not the Shamblers group, I personally did not have the answer to give you.

As for being welcomed to the meeting on Monday, as I and fellow walkers have said, anyone who is interested in the future of the group who has anything constructive to say, are most welcome. Bruno who will be chairing the meeting is a relative newcomer to the group and is not involved in its organisation, to ensure a degree of impartiality.

To an outsider the previous posts regarding the last walk may come across as petty, but the safety of a group of people on a walk has to be paramount. Whether the group that were on the walk on Sunday were actually in danger or not was not really the issue. The issue was that there are certain rules put in place to minimise the risk of potential dangers on a walk as far as possible. If people on a walk disregard these rules, then there is a serious problem that needs addressing to ensure that future walks are as risk free as possible. At the same time, if people perceive that the rules that are in place are fundamentally wrong, then this needs addressing too - hence the meeting.

As for it being a 'shambles', I think if you look at the wider picture, it is far from it. There was a problem on a walk, this was noted, and as soon as was humanly possible a meeting was set up to try to re-look at the rules and safety measures we do have in place to ensure we enjoy our walks in as safe a manner as we can.

This is a group in its infancy that is evolving, & as with any group or organisation, there will be problems that need addressing. It would be a 'shambles' if we ignored these problems & pretended everything was hunky dory. We haven't done that, we have acknowledged this, hence the meeting.

I am also positive that the outcome will make the group a much stronger and better group than it was before. Then we can get back to what we do best - enjoying the social aspect of being on a walk with a group of friends & having a jolly good laugh. This is what the Shamblers is supposed to be about - the emphasis being on the social side of things. Although we try to arrange the odd challenging walk, anyone wanting regular physically challenging fast-paced walks would be better either joining another group or organising their own.

I hope this helps to put everything into perspective for you, and I look forward to eventually meeting you at last! :D

This is the fourth such incident that I'm aware of (so there may be more)

We went out with the group in its infancy, but when it became evident that the rules any normal group of walkers would adhere to weren't present in this group, we chose to return to our own walks

This internet group was set up such that ANYBODY could do their own walks and report and post pics afterwards, discuss walking topics etc, but the emphasis shifted to one specific group of people posting only on walks arranged on the forum boards - so it's no longer the internet space it once was

Some of us make our own arrangements with other forumers these days ;)

Hi Strix,
I think your first point is very valid, when you went walking with the group, (pre my time) this is what it was - a group in its infancy without any rules.
It was acknowledged that this needed addressing, hence the birth of the Shamblers, who have tried to put some common-sense rules in place to make the walks as safe as we can, without taking away the essential fun side of things. It was because these common-sense rules that were put in place for everyone's safety did not seem to be adhered to, that we are re-addressing these rules again so we can evolve as a group.

There will be at least 2 very experienced walkers at our meeting who will be offering us their expert advice, & this advice will hopefully help to ensure that all future walks are as safe as possible.

Also, this internet group is still used for anyone to set up & discuss their own walks - this thread being a perfect example of that. Anyone is free to post anything walk related they want. Giving our group a name was an attempt to distinguish this group from anyone else who wishes to post on here - making it clearer for people flicking through which are our organised walks & which are not.

I'm glad you have found a group of friends that you are happy walking with, enjoying walking with a group of friends is what its all about:thumbsup:

Too the two posters above.... Firstly...... Am not always able to get online as soon as someone posts as I actually have a life and a job and both are somewhat more important than posting replies at someones whim........ So stand down and give people time to do so, just take a look at the time this reply has been placed (04.38)and this is due to actaully find time during my DUTY PERIOD.. As too the second posters comments DON'T hijack someone else post to air your concerns or grievances.... Keep them for a threat that is for that purpose.....

Regards
Lohtse

So sorry to hijack your thread Lohtse with the above 2 long-winded posts - I hope you will forgive me:D

So sorry to hijack your thread Lohtse with the above 2 long-winded posts - I hope you will forgive me:D

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!!!!! I'm DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED.I SAY I'm DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED:hihi::hihi:: hihi::hihi:


(private joke between me and Hemlock)

Now as to why the night walk has been cancelled this is due to myself having to now be on DUTY on the date of the night walk and has NOTHING to do with any current problems with other groups. SO DON'T MAKE ASSUMPTIONS TILL YOU KNOW THE FACTS.......

where did i assume ?
If you read my post i asked the question "is this to do with the in fighting".
As for the other post, i didn't call it a shambles, if you re-read it it actually says shamebles referring to it being a shame the walk was called off.

Btw, thanks for the reply Hemlock, should have said that first but wanted to clear up the 2 points posted above first.

Btw, thanks for the reply Hemlock, should have said that first but wanted to clear up the 2 points posted above first.

Hi just wanna say welcome to this section of the forum, yes please feel free to come along to the meetingm it will give you an insight to how we are and how it all runs, AND if you have any questions or points to make they are very much welcome........ As for me Chairing the meeting, I don't mind at all as long as it's been cleared with the the committee of walk co-ordinators.

feel free to join it the current thread for the meeting Quick link here (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=521442)