View Full Version : I want to move, I hate living here ! Shiregreen
every weekend my neighbour being a young girl of around 17 and her mum and loads of others oh and her 2 year old are mouthin out side my house but last night (1pm) i heard them messing around on my garden but was half asleep got back in bed then was messing round our car laughing . Some cars pulled up and sped off then went silent . So went back to sleep . This morning big scape down the side off the car ! OMG grr and to top it off washing from the line missing my childrens clothes ! I no i should have brought it in but forgot lol id go and confront her but i cant prove anything just GREAT ! just wanna pick my house up and move :-( sorry for long story just thort id share :-)
just thort id add that we share a path to our house dont think its anything personal , and stupid cow always wakes the kids next time im going outside ;-)
Welcome to the 21st century, diverse, Utopia that is the UK :gag:
I sincerely hope you get out of the >blank< that is Shiregreen sooner rather than later - good luck.
It is awful when you have neighbours like that is it not worth looking for a exchange or something
Must be awful when you cant leave your washing on the line
me too i got put hear a year ago and hate it :-( even tho i my road is quite apart from her .
yeah im looking for a exchange back to stocksbridge / deepcar near fam and friends but no look yet
Report her to the council, and when making noise at night ring 101 you dont have to tell them who you are, all calls are in confidence
Did they put you there as you had "priority"?
i was in homeless accomodation for 6 months then was given this and before i get comments yes we do work :-)
just thort id add that we share a path to our house dont think its anything personal , and stupid cow always wakes the kids next time im going outside ;-)
welcomme to NuLabours Great Britain
Grandad.Malky 11-10-2009, 15:57 welcomme to NuLabours Great Britain
What and it wasn’t the same when the torries were in power?:huh:
welcomme to NuLabours Great Britain
Yes, as older FMs will recall, prior to May 1st 1997, Shiregreen residents all left their back doors open, knew each others first names, never had kids out of wedlock or claimed benefits and there was no crime.
It was like a picture postcard scene from a pre-war Cotswold village.
Now look at it. I blame the foreigners :rant:
i was in homeless accomodation for 6 months then was given this and before i get comments yes we do work :-)
Didn't mean anything like that.
Was just going to say, (and Ive been told this by a memeber of staff at Sheff Housing), that if you get priority, it's not always a good thing.
Most of the time you're given houses that, basically no-one else wants and if you refuse them, then "You cant be all that desperate".
I was just curious if this was what happened in your case.
Hope you get it sorted:)
biggo1984 11-10-2009, 16:11 where abouts in shiregreen are you? i live there too... top end used to be a little better than lower shiregreen but it's getting worse there by the day!!
hartley brook just down from school i thort it was ok but does seem to be getting worse . :)
dumplindeb 11-10-2009, 16:27 anti social behaviour,, most definite, if you report it to council tho they'll just tell you to keep a record of everything thats going on, which is no good and time consuming. then you have the aspect of confrontation if they find out its you..no win situation unless you get an exchange or ask to be rehoused.
Madstock 11-10-2009, 16:50 welcomme to NuLabours Great Britain
It was a Thatchers Britain that we can now thank for todays 'chav' culture and dingle families! They were born into high unemployment and have grown up knowing nothing but benefits and hand-outs!
It was a Thatchers Britain that we can now thank for todays 'chav' culture and dingle families! They were born into high unemployment and have grown up knowing nothing but benefits and hand-outs!
the tories have been out of power for over 12 years now you cant blame the for everything you know:)
Yes, as older FMs will recall, prior to May 1st 1997, Shiregreen residents all left their back doors open, knew each others first names, never had kids out of wedlock or claimed benefits and there was no crime.
It was like a picture postcard scene from a pre-war Cotswold village.
Now look at it. I blame the foreigners :rant:
as far as i know nobodys mentioned foreigners apart from you:rolleyes:
Mr Gobby 11-10-2009, 17:02 Yes, as older FMs will recall, prior to May 1st 1997, Shiregreen residents all left their back doors open, knew each others first names, never had kids out of wedlock or claimed benefits and there was no crime.
It was like a picture postcard scene from a pre-war Cotswold village.
Now look at it. I blame the foreigners :rant:
Why, for what reason: please explain
Grandad.Malky 11-10-2009, 17:04 the tories have been out of power for over 12 years now you cant blame the for everything you know:)
Why not they created a inconsiderate, selfish, thoughtless, uncaring generation which we are all now reaping the “benefits” of,a generation brought up on the idea that money buys happiness, wealth is everything and materialism is king.
bonamoureux 11-10-2009, 18:06 bought house in shiregreen 18 month ago. kinda wonder why at times but it not all that bad.
dumpling 11-10-2009, 18:11 If you are both working as you said, surely you can buy or rent a private house instead of a council house.
our income isnt high enough to buy at the mo with cred crunch etc and we are only young under 25 only just lol so still time thort about renting but id prefer to exchange just because i have a job does not mean i have to buy and just because im in council / sanctuary doesnt make me a scrubber and yes i will buy when the time is right remember 100% mortgages are still not back !
It was a Thatchers Britain that we can now thank for todays 'chav' culture and dingle families! They were born into high unemployment and have grown up knowing nothing but benefits and hand-outs!
dont make excuses for these people -being born into high unemployment is no excuse for their anti social behaviour.
thats the problem with this country ,their is always some Liberal leftie making excuses for criminals and people who cant behave themselves
every weekend my neighbour being a young girl of around 17 and her mum and loads of others oh and her 2 year old are mouthin out side my house but last night (1pm) i heard them messing around on my garden but was half asleep got back in bed then was messing round our car laughing . Some cars pulled up and sped off then went silent . So went back to sleep . This morning big scape down the side off the car ! OMG grr and to top it off washing from the line missing my childrens clothes ! I no i should have brought it in but forgot lol id go and confront her but i cant prove anything just GREAT ! just wanna pick my house up and move :-( sorry for long story just thort id share :-)
Sorry you have had these problems must be infuriating having this going on outside your own house.
Hope you get it sorted.
dont make excuses for these people -being born into high unemployment is no excuse for their anti social behaviour.
thats the problem with this country ,their is always some Liberal leftie making excuses for criminals and people who cant behave themselvesDon't sit there criticising Benny, get a leaflet through their door quick, they seem yobbish enough to be your typical BNP material:hihi:
lemongrass 11-10-2009, 19:14 I agree with Mr Benn to some degree. I don't think kids get enough discipline at all. My sister was a teacher who left the profession because the kids were taunting her saying 'you can't tell me off, I'll get the law on you'. I think a good kick up the a@se is what some little thugs need. And no, I'm not having a go at children.
lemongrass 11-10-2009, 20:14 My sister just could not be bothered with trying to teach brats who did not want to learn and had no respect for anyone. who is to blame? well, I don't think it's the Torys. I think there should be far more done about these antisocial people living in Shiregreen. they are getting away with too much. they should all be shipped off to a desert island! Lol!
BreadSauce1 11-10-2009, 20:16 We now have a nice dint in our car after some idiot kicked it last night... When my dad went out to find out what he was doing he threatened my dad with a knife
lemongrass 11-10-2009, 20:29 I agree entirely. I've seen a six year old child put his fist up and threaten an adult who told him off for kicking a car. His parents should have punished him but they could not be bothered. What hope has that child got of becoming a productive law abiding citizen?
lemongrass 11-10-2009, 20:30 Oh yes, my sister was threatened a few times by parents.
hard2miss 11-10-2009, 21:00 Some teachers are full of themselves and it wouldnt matter what job they were in they would wind people up the wrong way. If thats the case they should get out of the job they are in
Some teachers are full of themselves and it wouldnt matter what job they were in they would wind people up the wrong way. If thats the case they should get out of the job they are in
correct me if im wrong ,but kids aree at school to learn ,and do as they are told by the teacher .
hard2miss 11-10-2009, 21:31 What do you want correcting, I agree with you.
But then you get some pompus, up them selves teachers that will pick on kids and get off on it. Some teachers will let them selves (unprofessionally) get wound up by "kids" and rarther than address the kids that are un disciplined will take it out on the kids that they think they can get at.
Don't come on here and have everyone believe that all teachers are saints because from my own experiances with schools I just aint buying it.
djelibeybi 11-10-2009, 21:32 Didn't mean anything like that.
Was just going to say, (and Ive been told this by a memeber of staff at Sheff Housing), that if you get priority, it's not always a good thing.
Most of the time you're given houses that, basically no-one else wants and if you refuse them, then "You cant be all that desperate".
I was just curious if this was what happened in your case.
Hope you get it sorted:)
I certainly sympathise with the OP, and can identify with the priority housing status of Sheffield Homes.
I was awarded priority housing and the first flat I was shown (and had bid for due to the area it was in) hadn't been upgraded on the Decent Homes Scheme. Being disabled, I pointed out to the Housing Officer showing me round that there was no connection point for a washing machine, no connection point for a gas cooker, and no shower unit in the bathroom. I was told straight that if I declined the property on those grounds (the previous tenant declined the work being done), then I'd lose my priority status and would be back on a minimum 3 year waiting list.
Obviously grateful for a roof over my head in the area I'd chosen, I took on the property. I've been informed that my property's going to be upgraded on a backtrack (2011 at the earliest but I know that's being optimistic), and I've been denied the new door entry system as the other flats in the block are all privately owned.
So you see, I agree that sometimes the priority housing status isn't always the enviable position some may think.
I really hope the OP finds peace soon xxx
cod2gamer 11-10-2009, 21:32 has your neighboure got a white staffy>?
Madstock 11-10-2009, 21:33 dont make excuses for these people -being born into high unemployment is no excuse for their anti social behaviour.
thats the problem with this country ,their is always some Liberal leftie making excuses for criminals and people who cant behave themselves
Right, first thing...i'm certainly not making any excuses for any type of anti social behaviour.....i would love to see tougher sentencing and a lot less of the pc brigade spouting their drivel about 'human rights!'
And as for me being a 'liberal leftie', you must be joking mate, and i for one would welcome the return of capital punishment and the use of a gunship to track down and permanantly stop joyriders! :cool:
But, it is the products of Thatchers Britain that are now the scragends who claim for everything and don't work because "ya get more on't benefits'
crazy_chick 11-10-2009, 21:35 Lived on shiregreen a few years ago, it was awful we had the neighbours from hell, so glad we got away.
I really feel sorry for you, i hope u get away asap
hard2miss 11-10-2009, 21:40 Thatchers britain "where theres a blaime, there a claim"
It was all about the money and now people moan because its how it is today.
Now people are "where theres a claim, theres a blaime" I wish people would stop knocking the worste of just because the ecconamy has gone tits up. Its no as if the unemployed caused it or that the money that the benifits system gives out is anything like the money waisted else where. They gave bankers billions so lets get up in arms about single mothers and housing benifit !
has your neighboure got a white staffy>?
nope just a young lass and her son and the full yob 2 or 3 times a week :)
Madstock 11-10-2009, 21:55 Thatchers britain "where theres a blaime, there a claim"
It was all about the money and now people moan because its how it is today.
Now people are "where theres a claim, theres a blaime" I wish people would stop knocking the worste of just because the ecconamy has gone tits up. Its no as if the unemployed caused it or that the money that the benifits system gives out is anything like the money waisted else where. They gave bankers billions so lets get up in arms about single mothers and housing benifit !
......Eh???
hard2miss 11-10-2009, 22:08 Someone has a problem, " Blaime the people on benifits", Too easy.
Do you know the individuals that are causing the anti social bahaviour ?
Only people on benifits have ASBO's ?
give us a bit of evidence before taking the easy road and jumping on the "Benifits" bandwaggon.
Moonbird 11-10-2009, 22:13 Welcome to the 21st century, diverse, Utopia that is the UK :gag:
I sincerely hope you get out of the s***hole that is Shiregreen sooner rather than later - good luck.
I get a bit tired of saying this because it makes no difference as people enjoy slating particular areas...but there is nothing any different about Shiregreen to any other estate that side of town (and probably many of the estates the other side too from what I hear).
I and many others like it here, we have no problems and where I live is nice, quiet, and I often forget to bring in washing but it's still there in the morning, people are friendly and down to earth usually.
It's not all good no more than anywhere is but it's not all bad either and not by a long way.
I am very sorry for anyone who falls foul of neighbours and I have been there myself quite a few times, it is not nice at all, but that doesn't just happen in Shiregreen does it?
Madstock 11-10-2009, 22:14 Someone has a problem, " Blaime the people on benifits", Too easy.
Do you know the individuals that are causing the anti social bahaviour ?
Only people on benifits have ASBO's ?
give us a bit of evidence before taking the easy road and jumping on the "Benifits" bandwaggon.
Sorry, i wasn't questioning your views, everyone is entitled to their opinion, that is what a forum is for! I just couldn't understand half of what you'd written!!!
hard2miss 11-10-2009, 22:15 :D no problem, I have to read it thrice to understand it myself :P
gina2007 11-10-2009, 22:25 I get a bit tired of saying this because it makes no difference as people enjoy slating particular areas...but there is nothing any different about Shiregreen to any other estate that side of town (and probably many of the estates the other side too from what I hear).
I and many others like it here, we have no problems and where I live is nice, quiet, and I often forget to bring in washing but it's still there in the morning, people are friendly and down to earth usually.
It's not all good no more than anywhere is but it's not all bad either and not by a long way.
I am very sorry for anyone who falls foul of neighbours and I have been there myself quite a few times, it is not nice at all, but that doesn't just happen in Shiregreen does it?
AGREED!!!
Shiregreen, isnt, bad. The area, isnt bad. You just get the off set of neighbours who move there thinking 'Well its shiregreen im gonna live up to the stereotype' I couldve easily moved in, had late partys, and done everything the OP's neighbours are but I moved there and thought, I want to settle down and make this house a home and I did just that. Its not Shiregreen thats bad, its the odd family here and there (who are allover Sheffield may I add) that live up to peoples stereotypes. An old school friend of mine has just got a flat up totley somewhere and shes made the area well the road right bad for her late partys and overall stupidness. People are slagging her off left right and centre but I dont see people slagging the whole estate off.
My post might have spelling mistakes and probably not make any normalilty to anyone but im tired so goodnight forummers :)
I live on the estate on a road at the back of where the OP lives and it`s lovely and quite most of the time. There`s just one or two familys that let it down slightly but luckily for us they`re not right next door. I`ve lived on the shiregreen just about all my life (even born in a house here) And yes it`s gone downhill but I wouldn`t live anywhere else.
Obviously while us tax payers are getting some shut eye your neighbours are mucking about till all hours while we pay for it.
It was a Thatchers Britain that we can now thank for todays 'chav' culture and dingle families! They were born into high unemployment and have grown up knowing nothing but benefits and hand-outs!
Was this the same one myself and friends who are working hard now was born into? it was 90's britain that dragged the scum up.
Plain Talker 12-10-2009, 07:22 AGREED!!!
Shiregreen, isnt, bad. The area, isnt bad. You just get the off set of neighbours who move there thinking 'Well its shiregreen im gonna live up to the stereotype' I couldve easily moved in, had late partys, and done everything the OP's neighbours are but I moved there and thought, I want to settle down and make this house a home and I did just that. Its not Shiregreen thats bad, its the odd family here and there (who are allover Sheffield may I add) that live up to peoples stereotypes. An old school friend of mine has just got a flat up totley somewhere and shes made the area well the road right bad for her late partys and overall stupidness. People are slagging her off left right and centre but I dont see people slagging the whole estate off.
My post might have spelling mistakes and probably not make any normalilty to anyone but im tired so goodnight forummers :)
*winks at Gina* you won't get Totley slagged-off because there's no trouble, or scummers living in Totley... *winks*
Where I live, there's only one who I could describe as a really bad neighbour, and this person's behaviour is disruptive because they have Mental Health issues.
If it wasn't for them creating havoc, and making a racket, shouting at /arguing with the voices they hear, at "dark O'clock", it would be fantastic, here.
*winks at Gina* you won't get Totley slagged-off because there's no trouble, or scummers living in Totley... *winks*
Where I live, there's only one who I could describe as a really bad neighbour, and this person's behaviour is disruptive because they have Mental Health issues.
If it wasn't for them creating havoc, and making a racket, shouting at /arguing with the voices they hear, at "dark O'clock", it would be fantastic, here.
I hope it stays that way aswell. It is so lovely to go to an area with respectful people and a nice atmos.
Can u imagine how nice shiregreen would be if the people had more respect?
Plain Talker 12-10-2009, 08:20 I hope it stays that way aswell. It is so lovely to go to an area with respectful people and a nice atmos.
Can u imagine how nice shiregreen would be if the people had more respect?
it would be "like heaven with the gates shut!", as my mum would have said.
it was heaven with the gates shut, the other week when disruptive neighbour was away for a few days.
gina2007 12-10-2009, 08:34 :hihi: @ PT! Obviously, noone like that.. :D
mattyuk1, Shiregreen would be a really nice place again, somewhere where people want to live, if Sanctuary stopped putting people that are bound to cause trouble in their houses. For instance, I was a 17 single mum and they gave me a 2 bed house without a second thought, Yes I had a guarantor (sp?) who promised i'd pay my rent on time each week and she did but they never asked if I would be a responsible tennant or anything along those line. I really thought i'd be put in a 2bed flat surrounded by no hopers. I am a responsible tennant but why are they handing out their homes to young single mums or young couples with kids? *
*Please dont slam me down because of what I said about young people shouldnt be awarded homes, its my opinion and remember im only 18 myself! I was a single mum with a 2bed council house, talk about stereotype? Its all different now though. :thumbsup:
dumpling 12-10-2009, 09:29 nope just a young lass and her son and the full yob 2 or 3 times a week :)
it just shows they are very popular and have lots o friends wanting to be round then, is your name billy?
Moonbird 12-10-2009, 09:43 I hope it stays that way aswell. It is so lovely to go to an area with respectful people and a nice atmos.
Can u imagine how nice shiregreen would be if the people had more respect?
The thing is Mattyuk1 that most people in Shiregreen do have respect and lead very ordinary lives where they take care of their children, look after and appreciate their home and go to work for a living.
As Gina and others have said it is a minority of people that spoil it for some of the others.
I would be interested to know whether the people who actually live in Shiregreen and know what they are talking about (and not just jumping on the slating of another estate wagon) have actually gone through any sort of complaints procedure with Sanctuary? because if not then they should at least try it, there is no point in coming on here slating an whole estate and getting the tenants of that estate a bad name unless they are prepared to do something real about it.
The thing that does concern me quite a lot is that this sort of generalisation has the potential to ruin a place that is (in my experience) or could be a nice place to live, it is an estate with nice newly modernised houses, we have great local shops and amenities, all on the edge of countryside, all of this never gets brought out but is just as true.
Bad neighbours are awful and I wouldn't want to make any less of it than it is because I realise that this does go on and it is absolutely awful, it is far from being the rule here though....my fear is that the decent people that we need to come and live here will read such things without hearing anything different and look elsewhere, it will then really become what people say it is and that would be a great shame and a waste of a nice estate.
Well said.
It's exactly the same with the Manor.
I grew up there and still live in the vicinity. People who'd never even been near the place used to slate it, and judge me as a person, because of gossip and bad press.
Theres good and bad in every estate.
Moonbird 12-10-2009, 09:49 it just shows they are very popular and have lots o friends wanting to be round then, is your name billy?
No it doesn't it just shows that she is a selfish and irresponsible person that thinks nothing about spoiling where other people live and obviously takes delight in making their lives a misery....that is not a very nice or decent person to my mind I'm afraid.
Vague_Boy 12-10-2009, 09:56 What and it wasn’t the same when the torries were in power?:huh:
Perhaps it's more of a post-war phenomenon?
When I was growing up (70s) there was always at least one "bad" family in my area. Now there seem to be a sizable minority of them, and not much to keep them in check.
IMO, both the last 2 administrations are equally to blame.
Trouble makers should be put into an area and leave us decent people get on with life.
How not to be http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgTzfah7GNQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUsjvhW09ls
How to be http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6EY6ihHjqU&feature=fvw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le2Pzjl0Lk8&feature=related
ultracynic 12-10-2009, 10:05 why not put all the bad families together in a designated estate on the outskirts of the city so that decent people don't have to put up with them?
Moonbird 12-10-2009, 10:11 why not put all the bad families together in a designated estate on the outskirts of the city so that decent people don't have to put up with them?
And what sort of no go place of hell would that be? how would we keep the people in there? and if they reformed how would they ever get out? would their children be forced to live there and also become part of that way of living? thus breeding more and more people like this this until they took over the places close by as well....a very simplistic view of life I am afraid, if only it was so easy, in the real world we all have to work a lot harder to find utopia.
I would challenge your neighbough anyway. Call her bluff! Do they live in a council rented property? I would firmly state that if there is any more trouble I will report you to the council! You have rights!. And keep to your word, keep reporting them. If you continue to do and say nothing, people like your neighbours will keep on getting away with this kind of unacceptable behaviour. Stand up for yourself!!!
why not put all the bad families together in a designated estate on the outskirts of the city so that decent people don't have to put up with them?
that post made me smile :)
it is possibly the worst idea i have ever heard in my life!
as far as i know nobodys mentioned foreigners apart from you:rolleyes:
Why, for what reason: please explain
You two share a serious irony defiency :)
dumpling 12-10-2009, 14:02 No it doesn't it just shows that she is a selfish and irresponsible person that thinks nothing about spoiling where other people live and obviously takes delight in making their lives a misery....that is not a very nice or decent person to my mind I'm afraid.
So it is wrong for your kids to have friends round to play:huh:,
dumpling 12-10-2009, 14:03 I would challenge your neighbough anyway. Call her bluff! Do they live in a council rented property? I would firmly state that if there is any more trouble I will report you to the council! You have rights!. And keep to your word, keep reporting them. If you continue to do and say nothing, people like your neighbours will keep on getting away with this kind of unacceptable behaviour. Stand up for yourself!!!
Wow if you do that, life will be hell for you,
Wow if you do that, life will be hell for you,
are you a complete ass ? So just because i say she is having her mates round means im called billy i dont give a >blank< about her having friends round but when they are waking my children up bein loud and damaging my car then its not funny is it ! Yeah i admit i dont have many friends round hear but so what im with my children so who cares ! I do go out and have a good time but dont come home mouthing in the street i even get out off the taxi at the end of the road and take my high shoes off so i dont disturb any1 especially my toddler ! If you got nothing nice to say dont say it
that post made me smile :)
it is possibly the worst idea i have ever heard in my life!
I think its an excellent idea, why should scum spoil decent peoples everyday life?
goldenfleece 12-10-2009, 14:40 I thoight Shiregreen was what estate agents called an
"up and coming desirable area to live"..
.well at least thats what one such estate agent advert reads I have seen, plus it adds
"good local schools and amenities, and established community and residential status"...
WTF?
Isn't Shiregreen what EAs would call 'vibrant'?
goldenfleece 12-10-2009, 14:48 Isn't Shiregreen what EAs would call 'vibrant'?
another advert reads I just found in my collection of local estate agent publications..
'Delightful semi detached 3 bedroomed ex Council property located in central Shiregreen, close tio all amenities and good local schools. Garden to rear (enclosed) Attractive shopping area less than 150 metres away, and adjacent to bus stop for City. A popular area with excellant community atmosphere, plus restaurant/pub nearby. Recently refurbished with bathroom and new suite. Carpets included, curtains by arrangement. "
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another advert reads I just found in my collection of local estate agent publications..
'Delightful semi detached 3 bedroomed ex Council property located in central Shiregreen, close tio all amenities and good local schools. Garden to rear (enclosed) Attractive shopping area less than 150 metres away, and adjacent to bus stop for City. A popular area with excellant community atmosphere, plus restaurant/pub nearby. Recently refurbished with bathroom and new suite. Carpets included, curtains by arrangement. "
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Wonderful. EAs never cease to amaze me :hihi:
goldenfleece 12-10-2009, 16:05 Wonderful. EAs never cease to amaze me :hihi:
so its not an "up and coming " area? Not that I believe estate agent talk ever..."highly desirable property" can often mean a burnt out wheelie bin...lol
dumpling 12-10-2009, 16:24 are you a complete ass ? So just because i say she is having her mates round means im called billy i dont give a >blank< about her having friends round but when they are waking my children up bein loud and damaging my car then its not funny is it ! Yeah i admit i dont have many friends round hear but so what im with my children so who cares ! I do go out and have a good time but dont come home mouthing in the street i even get out off the taxi at the end of the road and take my high shoes off so i dont disturb any1 especially my toddler ! If you got nothing nice to say dont say it
keep your wig on, i am not in one in a low paid job and relay on state handouts.
keep your wig on, i am not in one in a low paid job and relay on state handouts.
what ??:huh:
baby2k, pm me if you want and I will give you some proper advice about what you can do, it's a situation I'm familiar with through work.
Moonbird 12-10-2009, 20:47 So it is wrong for your kids to have friends round to play:huh:,
In the early hours of the morning????
Also it is fear of doing something about things that let the bullies win and this sort of situation continue for them and then the next unfortunate tenant do you think that is reasonable?
Moonbird 12-10-2009, 20:53 another advert reads I just found in my collection of local estate agent publications..
'Delightful semi detached 3 bedroomed ex Council property located in central Shiregreen, close tio all amenities and good local schools. Garden to rear (enclosed) Attractive shopping area less than 150 metres away, and adjacent to bus stop for City. A popular area with excellant community atmosphere, plus restaurant/pub nearby. Recently refurbished with bathroom and new suite. Carpets included, curtains by arrangement. "
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I don't see anything untrue in that description at all to be honest, Shiregreen is like that, some people don't share the excellent community spirit mores the pity, but that is not the rule by any means.
Some roads/people on the estate let the others down which is a great pity because the estate is generally nice, but isn't this the case on most estates?
Where`s the restaurant that`s near? Are they talking about the new kebab shop? The nearest one is in ecclesfield as far as i know and the nearest pub has to be what used to be the penguin
djelibeybi 13-10-2009, 09:52 The fear felt by those in a position such as the OP, is that if they begin the complaints procedure through Sheffield Homes, Sanctuary etc, then they will become the target for more concentrated abuse and harassment. It's unacceptable to think that this is what occurs, but it can and sometimes does. I speak from personal experience.
The natural instinct, and rightly so, is to protect yourself, your family and your property by keeping schtumm, and it takes alot of courage to confront individuals such as the OP has described.
In my situation, the rest of the street were lovely people who cared about the estate and their homes. My neighbour took it upon herself to let her sons run riot, causing criminal damage, and then denying point blank their involvement when neighbours and subsequently the Police and Sheffield Homes spoke to her. Her sons picked up on this and escalated their behaviour to abuse and harassment. Each time neighbours spoke to her about it, she became abusive herself.
I spent 18 months providing Sheffield Homes with completed and detailed Incident Diaries and CCTV footage. The cameras were installed on the recommendation of the Police, otherwise it would've been my word against her's.
During that time, her sons and their associates caused increasing amounts of criminal damage to my family's property, and we were unable to exit either our front or back doors without being subjected to verbal abuse and death threats. Personally I was terrified, but stuck with it, refusing to let these bullies win.
Eventually the Police had sufficient evidence to bring court proceedings on another neighbour who was the most active associate of the family, and Sheffield Homes were in a position to evict.
I've since moved, but the action taken by myself with the authorities now means my family live in peace, as the antisocial neighbour and her sons are sufficiently concerned about their tenancy to kerb their behaviour.
We were fortunate, but I understand the OP's fears over following that route as the procedure can result in an escalation of intimidation. It's a decision she needs to make once she has all the information needed to make an informed choice.
I thoight Shiregreen was what estate agents called an
"up and coming desirable area to live"..
.well at least thats what one such estate agent advert reads I have seen, plus it adds
"good local schools and amenities, and established community and residential status"...
WTF?
Some of the residents say that as well:rolleyes:
Moonbird 13-10-2009, 11:34 Some of the residents say that as well:rolleyes:
So there must be some truth in it hey :D
So there must be some truth in it hey :D
No its just a ploy to lure unsuspecting victims into the area then terrorise them:lol:
goldenfleece 14-10-2009, 12:38 Where`s the restaurant that`s near? Are they talking about the new kebab shop? The nearest one is in ecclesfield as far as i know and the nearest pub has to be what used to be the penguin
.....I have heard of the pub before, but never ventured into this area at all as do not know anyone there. To be honest I do not believe ANYTHING on EA leaflets about areas and properties, they just tell outrageous lies and pass off crummy decrepid places as ' delightful property needing a loving touch'........yeah EA....demolition! But then again, never been to Shiregreen area ever so have no honest idea what its like or and what its demographics are....
Like others have said it`s no different to other council estates, it has its nice areas and its not so nice ones.
Like others have said it`s no different to other council estates, it has its nice areas and its not so nice ones.
Thats debatable
Moonbird 15-10-2009, 13:14 Thats debatable
I'm sure that I must have asked this before but how come you know so much more about the estate than the people who actually live there? I would have thought that they would have a whole lot more insight into the estate and its problems than someone who might drive through it every now and then...or perhaps you just like stirring up a good old argument, I have a sense of Deja vous.
Stereophonic 15-10-2009, 13:37 Originally Posted by Phylis
Thats debatable
Says the person who's location is Foxhill :)
And before you say anything, I am also from Foxhill. It hardly has the best reputation now does it?
Says the person who's location is Foxhill :)
And before you say anything, I am also from Foxhill. It hardly has the best reputation now does it?
No but it has a damn sight better reputation than Shiregreen.
I'm sure that I must have asked this before but how come you know so much more about the estate than the people who actually live there? I would have thought that they would have a whole lot more insight into the estate and its problems than someone who might drive through it every now and then...or perhaps you just like stirring up a good old argument, I have a sense of Deja vous.
So none of the residents have problems? Why so many posts on this topic?
We know a fair bit about Shiregreen due to family living nearby and being robbed bloody blind by the residents of Shiregreen (and yes we do know they are from Shiregreen as do the police).
Yes we drive through it through neccesity to get to the homes of family members.
But if you want to believe all is fine and dandy in Shiregreen thats your problem. Does beg the question how you got the job of being a mod though with your somewhat odd views.
Moonbird 15-10-2009, 17:23 So none of the residents have problems? Why so many posts on this topic?
We know a fair bit about Shiregreen due to family living nearby and being robbed bloody blind by the residents of Shiregreen (and yes we do know they are from Shiregreen as do the police).
Yes we drive through it through neccesity to get to the homes of family members.
But if you want to believe all is fine and dandy in Shiregreen thats your problem. Does beg the question how you got the job of being a mod though with your somewhat odd views.
I never said that no one ever had problems now did I? I said that the whole estate isn't bad, and that there are good and bad on every estate, so is every resident a thief in Shiregreen? as from your post residents robbed your relative blind.
What is odd about my views? should people from Shiregreen be banned from being a mod then? and if so why?
I never said that no one ever had problems now did I? I said that the whole estate isn't bad, and that there are good and bad on every estate, so is every resident a thief in Shiregreen? as from your post residents robbed your relative blind.
What is odd about my views? should people from Shiregreen be banned from being a mod then? and if so why?
Just strikes me as odd that they can allow a mod who clearly has intentions of starting arguments about non topics and also one that seems to have a habit of twisting words. Strange very strange.
It would also be pretty difficult to get any of our family to speak nicely of Shiregreen given the trouble thats seems to radiate around the estate. Why should hard working famalies who have worked hard to achieve what they have got have to put up with thieving scum on their doorsteps. Shiregreen is a sink estate and has been for many years. The sooner it is ripped down the better.
It seems to me that it`s you phylis that has started the argument not the mod. All i said was that there was good and bad on the estate as there is anywhere you go and you had to wade in slagging the whole estate off. I`ve grown up on the estate and have never been in trouble with law at all never mind being branded a thief
It seems to me that it`s you phylis that has started the argument not the mod. All i said was that there was good and bad on the estate as there is anywhere you go and you had to wade in slagging the whole estate off. I`ve grown up on the estate and have never been in trouble with law at all never mind being branded a thief
Well you are most certainly of the minority. Open your eyes, look out of your window and what do you see?
Well you are most certainly of the minority. Open your eyes, look out of your window and what do you see?
sorry to interupt hear but i started this thread , and i never mentioned i hated the whole of shiregreen ! actually im not from round hear and was given this house 20months ago and was really scared as of what every 1 says about shiregreen , and u no what i dnt think its bad at all my road is very very quite apart from the mentioned and thats only 1 or 2 nights at the weekend and the only reason i hate it hear is because my freinds and family are too far from me (stocksbridge) to be honest every1 would think stocksbridge is a lovely place to live but probably more crime up there than ive seen in shiregreen just goes to show , u make it sound like u cnt even drive / walk through without being robbed ! lol wat a joker get ur facts straight plz !:hihi:
Moonbird 16-10-2009, 09:46 Just strikes me as odd that they can allow a mod who clearly has intentions of starting arguments about non topics and also one that seems to have a habit of twisting words. Strange very strange.
It would also be pretty difficult to get any of our family to speak nicely of Shiregreen given the trouble thats seems to radiate around the estate. Why should hard working famalies who have worked hard to achieve what they have got have to put up with thieving scum on their doorsteps. Shiregreen is a sink estate and has been for many years. The sooner it is ripped down the better.
I have no intentions of starting arguments at all, but where I see injustice being done then it is my right as any other SF user to tell the truth as I see it.
I am sorry that you don't agree but that is really not my problem, the fact of being a mod does not come into it...I certainly have not used that fact to press my point, only that I have lived in the area for the past 20 years or so, it seems that you are the only one to have a problem with it as usual, if you think that I abuse my status in some way then I suggest that you contact admin about that and let them sort it out.
It would also appear that it is not the minority view that the estate is a nice place to live after all, people might be more inclined to listen to your point of view if you were less intent on tarring an whole estate of people with the same brush!
sorry to interupt hear but i started this thread , and i never mentioned i hated the whole of shiregreen ! actually im not from round hear and was given this house 20months ago and was really scared as of what every 1 says about shiregreen , and u no what i dnt think its bad at all my road is very very quite apart from the mentioned and thats only 1 or 2 nights at the weekend and the only reason i hate it hear is because my freinds and family are too far from me (stocksbridge) to be honest every1 would think stocksbridge is a lovely place to live but probably more crime up there than ive seen in shiregreen just goes to show , u make it sound like u cnt even drive / walk through without being robbed ! lol wat a joker get ur facts straight plz !:hihi:
If you love it so much, stop moaning and get on with it. And whilst you are at it i should rename the topic to "i love Shiregreen and want to stay here"
I have no intentions of starting arguments at all, but where I see injustice being done then it is my right as any other SF user to tell the truth as I see it.
I am sorry that you don't agree but that is really not my problem, the fact of being a mod does not come into it...I certainly have not used that fact to press my point, only that I have lived in the area for the past 20 years or so, it seems that you are the only one to have a problem with it as usual, if you think that I abuse my status in some way then I suggest that you contact admin about that and let them sort it out.
It would also appear that it is not the minority view that the estate is a nice place to live after all, people might be more inclined to listen to your point of view if you were less intent on tarring an whole estate of people with the same brush!
I would check the title of this thread:loopy:
Moonbird 16-10-2009, 11:04 I would check the title of this thread:loopy:
No need for the loopy symbol I am sure...I meant that you seem to be the only one to have a problem with me participating in such discussions because I am a mod actually, perhaps I wasn't clear I do apologise :rolleyes:
PHYLIS :- i never said i loved it did i , i think u have serious issues with your life ?? nothing better to do ???
can some1 please close this thread plz
too much dibate lol
MOD: I've just deleted a post which was verging on the abusive. Please can we air our views without descending into school room bickering? Thanks.
And another point added to the list. This thread has been very infomative indeed. Least not about the Shiregreen clan.
lozzie624 26-10-2009, 15:52 I have just moved to Shiregreen from Derbyshire and its not that bad, I think it depends who your neighbors are. We have older neighbors and they have been very friendly and helpful. We've bought a house and it was one of the better estate that we visited, we went to the Abourthorne and Parson Cross and they were far far worse.
I have just moved to Shiregreen from Derbyshire and its not that bad, I think it depends who your neighbors are. We have older neighbors and they have been very friendly and helpful. We've bought a house and it was one of the better estate that we visited, we went to the Abourthorne and Parson Cross and they were far far worse.
Arbourthorne i would agree with but i do think that the majority of Parson Cross is a better option than Shiregreen. As you have said though a lot depends on your neighbours.
foxydebs 26-10-2009, 18:06 Well you are most certainly of the minority. Open your eyes, look out of your window and what do you see?
It seems like you that is in the minority, I livedin shiregreen before I moved into firth park. Yes there were instances of grafitti and gangs hanging around near the shops, but I did something constriuctive and phoned 101 about it, instead of moaning on here how awful it was. All things considered I didnt find it that bad an area to live in.
It seems like you that is in the minority, I livedin shiregreen before I moved into firth park. Yes there were instances of grafitti and gangs hanging around near the shops, but I did something constriuctive and phoned 101 about it, instead of moaning on here how awful it was. All things considered I didnt find it that bad an area to live in.
I aint the one moaning about it love. Seems its the residents who one minute hate it and then the next its all rosy again.:rolleyes:
Now I'm no salesman, but having the below 2 statements in the same post ain't gonna help................:
HOUSE EXCHANGE WANTED FROM SHIREGREEN 2 BED TO 2/3 BED STOCKSBRIDGE DEEPCAR PLEASE PM
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I want to move, I hate living here ! Shiregreen
There must have been a mistake in the post title. Everyone now says Shiregreen is a nice place to be.
gina2007 27-10-2009, 12:11 There must have been a mistake in the post title. Everyone now says Shiregreen is a nice place to be.
Sorry to burst your bubble honey but your location is Foxhill, Life doesnt seem so rosy anymore does it sweetheart?
Shiregreen, is a nice place to live. You get the few that think otherwise, because of what some people have experienced, from thefew who are disruptive. Yes, you get kids around the shops, but theyre frightened of someone shouting Boo at them - they dont cause much trouble. Or do us Shiregreen folk live with rose tinted glasses on? I dont think we all do somehow!! Baby2k has had a bad experience, but even she admits - she doesnt hate the whole of Shiregreen - mainly just her neighbours. I dont particually like my neighbours but it doesnt mean I wouldnt move elsewhere on Shiregreen now does it?
[QUOTE=gina2007;5577515]Sorry to burst your bubble honey but your location is Foxhill, Life doesnt seem so rosy anymore does it sweetheart?
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I know it is. I have lived happily there for three years now. Yes life looks very rosy thanks, no complaints, no noise issues, no speed humps to slow down joyriders, clean streets, grass verges with grass:o, bus shelters with glass in them:o, Streets where people will happily leave their cars parked without having to hide them on their lawn. I can go on if you wish.
You cant start a topic on how sh*t an estate is and then mid way through change tune. It dont work. Even estate agents know its a no hope estate.
Painting a few houses with see through cream paint isnt refurbishing an estate it is attemtping to hide the true state of the housing. And yes there have been enough topics on here to say that the interior "refurbishments" live up to the same shoddy standards.
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