Alabama Passes Castration Bill


The House passed a bill Thursday that would require mandatory castration of persons convicted of violent sex crimes against children under 12.

(courtesy of the timesdaily.com)

Does that stop them re-offending then ?

I always thought it was something wrong with their brains, not their balls.

Originally posted by nick2
Does that stop them re-offending then ?

I always thought it was something wrong with their brains, not their balls.

exactly. you can still perform horrible sex crimes without the use of your mans bits.

That is a great idea! :thumbsup: about time someone had the balls to chop these nobsacks down to size.

i not sure this will help... castration dont really stop the urges, but maybe make them think twice about doing it in first place!!!!
to be honest in america they have death penalty so that should be passed as a punishment for this sort of crime!

apparently if you remove the spherical objects it removes the production of testosterone & other chemicals that give them the urge to carry out "sexual acts." basically turns them into eunuchs, some US states already use chemical castration for prisoners.

Originally posted by nick2
I always thought it was something wrong with their brains, not their balls. So cutting their heads off then ?

It's all they deserve ... They're freaks, dirty, get balls cut off. At they have the death penalty in some states :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

i'm not a dr. but i believe if you don't have the sphericals u can' be sexually active- 'cos it don't work.

Originally posted by willman
apparently if you remove the spherical objects it removes the production of testosterone & other chemicals that give them the urge to carry out "sexual acts." basically turns them into eunuchs, some US states already use chemical castration for prisoners.

my dogs are castrated and they still try humping things so i dont think it works...!!!

Originally posted by willman
i'm not a dr. but i believe if you don't have the sphericals u can' be sexually active- 'cos it don't work.

I thought the same thing! if you don't have the balls then you don't produce testosterone which fuels your desire in the first place. So they wont even think about it then.

Originally posted by savbaby
i not sure this will help... castration dont really stop the urges, but maybe make them think twice about doing it in first place!!!!
to be honest in america they have death penalty so that should be passed as a punishment for this sort of crime!

As your balls is where testosterone is produced which controls sexual desire in Men, this will have an almost immediate affect. No more testosterone, no more getting the horn.

You are right that this does not mechanically stop you from performing, but if you have no desire to do so, what’s the point.

Of course they only need to get hold of synthetic testosterone to be fully functional again, and even more violent.

Removing the brain would be more efficient.

Originally posted by nick2
Of course they only need to get hold of synthetic testosterone to be fully functional again, and even more violent.

Removing the brain would be more efficient.

agreed, there are loads of pills out there that could overcome this and they are easily available!! to be honest they should be locked up for LIFE(with no parol) or given death penalty. they destroy too many too many peoples lives and should not be given a chance to do it again.

I'm sure they could find and use chemical testosterone, but I doubt many of them do these things by choice... It's not about preventing the act, it's about removing the motivation and urges.

i was always under the impression that paedophilia was a mental illness so castration will not stop the thoughts or doing other acts on children ?

i think they should be burned alive. slowly.

But they will only be castrated after they have committed the act so it doesn't exactly stop the problem in the first place does it?

And plus there are many other reasons people abuse children...it's not just about the sex. They will still have the desire to control and manipulate and will just find other ways of doing it. They need to be placed in a psychiatric unit and left there, as the "recovery" rates for people like this are very low.

Erm, isn't it documented that the sexual abuse of children is generally perpetrated by individuals who feel an overwhelming desire to exercise power and control over children as opposed to feeling sexual attraction towards them (ditto rape), so I'm not sure how castration would be effective. How strange that the US have opted for a punishment option that seems to be barking, irrelevant, inneffective and appeals to the lowest common denominator

Originally posted by willman
Alabama Passes Castration Bill


The House passed a bill Thursday that would require mandatory castration of persons convicted of violent sex crimes against children under 12.

(courtesy of the timesdaily.com)

iof they al went through thorough tests including lie detector tests that would be great.

preferably with a rusty spoon

however, I see the right to appeal being used a bit. anyone got a lot of super glue?

The AP story is here. http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AL_XGR_SEX_OFFENDERS_ALOL-?SITE=ALMON&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT But I believe it's aimed mostly at those who commit violent crimes against children under 12 years old.

This is a true story. It happened in Jamestown, California (an old gold rush town, and not far from where I live) in 1994. Taken from The Modesto Bee archives.

NICE SHOOTIN', ELLIE"

By Frank Russell

Daniel Driver had a prior child molestation conviction dating back to 1983. When a Santa Clara County judge put him on probation after three months in jail, Driver moved to Tuolumne County, where he got a job as a dishwasher in a Christian camp. In 1989, a warrant was issued for his arrest on suspicion of molesting four boys at the camp-including Ellie Nesler's son Willie, then aged 5

During the four years between the molestations and Driver's arrest, Nesler said after the shooting, she and her son lived in mortal fear that Driver would come and kill them. He had apparently threatened to do so. The boy suffered from nightmares at home and learning and discipline problems at school since being raped by Driver, his aunts said. On the day of the preliminary hearing, he vomited when he woke up and again in the street when he met the accused molester outside the courtroom.

"The man looked at him, and he smirked," said Ardala Inks, who is Nesler's cousin and accompanied her to court. "He thought it was a big joke" .

The feeling among the parents of Driver's alleged victims was that the hearing had not gone well up to the noon break. A child can be a notoriously unreliable witness, especially when confronted by the person who victimized him, then threatened to kill him if he told anyone. One of the mothers, who later got a "Support Ellie Nesler" tattoo on her ankle, told Ellie at the break, "He's gonna walk." Nesler's son was supposed to testify against Driver after the recess. His mother saw to it that he would not have to. With court still in recess, Nesler strode back into the courtoom and shot Dan Driver five times in the head and neck with a semiautomatic pistol.

Within 24 hours of Nesler's arrest, flowers began arriving at the Tuolumne County Jail, and relatives and we at the local papers began fielding calls from people who wanted to know how they could contribute to her defense. In one of the more egregious instances of the media taking sides, a Bay Area radio station broadcast the defense fund's address. My Modesto Bee colleague Ron Delacy gauged immediate local reaction:

Overwhelmingly, the sentiment seemed to favor the shooter, not the shooting victim.

"The guy was guilty, justice was served," said Greg Popovich, a Sonora real estate broker. That woman probably saved the taxpayers of Tuolumne County hundreds of thousands of dollars."

Jamestown carpenter Wayne Chapel said, "If anybody ever molested one of my sons I'd shoot him in front of the cops and the judge, too. And I'd say, "do whatever you have to do with me. I had to do that."'

Jeri Barenchi, visiting from Groveland, said she can't imagine the woman being convicted.

"They're going to have a hard time finding a jury that won't empathize with her," Barenchi said.

Hundreds of people gathered outside Sonora Justice Court for Nester's arraignment on April 5. Supporters sold, wore, or brandished bumper stickers, T-shirts, and signs that said, "Free Ellie Nester," "Nice Shootin', Ellie," and "L.E. Law." Sacramento Bee reporters Nancy Vogel and Claire Cooper described the scene:

Ellie Nesler is being treated more like a hero than like a woman who put five bullets into the head of the man accused of sexually molesting her son.

"Justice drew me out," said Sonoran Bob Pierson, trying to elicit honks from heavy downtown traffic with a sign that read "No Second Time Sex Offenders..."

"I'm not sure some of us wouldn't have done the same thing," said Kim Podoll of Sonora as she joined the rally outside the county's main courthouse. "I don't think the laws are stiff enough in cases where they've done it before" Victims of child molestation and anyone else who felt it was high time the law stopped coddling criminals and started protecting the innocent, had found a champion.

Three elements made the Nesler story newsworthy. First, there was the sympathetic defendant-a mother avenging the most heinous of crimes. Second, there was the dramatic setting-a court of law. Third, there was the picturesque historical context-Tuolumne County is Gold Country. Jamestown's main street still has wooden sidewalks and hitching posts. A claim jumper mannequin hanging by the neck in front of a gold panning business told reporters and photographers everything they needed to know about justice, 49er-style. Even when the cappuccino emporiums moved into town, and the foothill ranches got carved into ranchettes, the code never died.

Justice mustn't dally or blanch, and if it does, the avenging gunslinger walks a path of righteousness....

I know this must seem beyond uncivilized to you Brits. I personally don't agree with what Ms. Nesler did, no one should take the law into their own hands, but then, neither of my children have ever had anything like this happen to them, so I don't know how I'd react if it did.

And yes, Ms. Nesler DID go to jail. Serving three years of a ten year sentence for manslaughter.

Sad footnote to this story. Her son, the young boy who was molested, was himself convicted of murder. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/07/29/national/main632717.shtml He eventually turned himself in to a Sacramento bounty hunter, a family friend. Obviously, this young man's fear and shame has turned into something else, and left him filled with anger.

Molesting a child sometimes has long and far reaching consequences.

:) Sierra