Seems the US have finally caught up with him after having a warrant out for his arrest for the last 31 years (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8277176.stm).

He was arrested after traveling to Zurich to collect a lifetime achievement award.

He'll get off for sure.

He'll get off for sure.

I wouldn't be so sure, the US authorities can be very forceful and they'll want to get it right now when the eyes of the world are watching

The pervert should be locked up.

Do the crime, you should do the time. Seems strange that it's taken so long though, it's not as if he's been in hiding for the last 30 odd years.

with any luck he'll serve the rest of his years behind bars where he belongs

...the US authorities can be very forceful and they'll want to get it right now when the eyes of the world are watching

I think you're right, even though the victim herself wants the charges dropped.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7825799.stm

The fact he hasn't reoffended in over 30 years does nail the myth that peados can't be cured. Why reopen old wounds when even the alleged victim wants the case dropped?

The fact he hasn't reoffended in over 30 years does nail the myth that peados can't be cured. Why reopen old wounds when even the alleged victim wants the case dropped?

Firstly, how do you know he hasn't reoffended? Secondly, so you think you should be able to get off with having sex with minors by fleeing to another country?

(Oh, and that's minors and not miners before anyone does the obvious joke).

The fact he hasn't reoffended in over 30 years does nail the myth that peados can't be cured. Why reopen old wounds when even the alleged victim wants the case dropped?

It doesn't matter if the victim wants the case dropped, he pleaded guilty that means he did it.

Do you defend all peadofiles?

It doesn't matter if the victim wants the case dropped, he pleaded guilty that means he did it.

Do you defend all peadofiles?

No, just those where a prosecution isn't in anyone's interests, bearing in mind the alleged victim's wishes and the amount of time that's passed. What would giving Polanski a jail sentence achieve?

No, just those where a prosecution isn't in anyone's interests, bearing in mind the alleged victim's wishes and the amount of time that's passed. What would giving Polanski a jail sentence achieve?

So because he did a runner and stayed away from any country where he could be extradited from for 30 years is ok is it???


Would you feel the same if a 13 year old relative of yours was the victim?

No, just those where a prosecution isn't in anyone's interests, bearing in mind the alleged victim's wishes and the amount of time that's passed. What would giving Polanski a jail sentence achieve?

Polanski has been prosecuted and has been found guilty, he needs to serve his sentence. I hope that clears things up for you.

The fact he hasn't reoffended in over 30 years does nail the myth that peados can't be cured. Why reopen old wounds when even the alleged victim wants the case dropped?

13 = fertile. He's no paedo. Perverted somewhat, but not a paedo.

13 = fertile. He's no paedo. Perverted somewhat, but not a paedo.

......I do not adam and believe it.... am I hearing you right? Are you condoning what I think you're condoning?.....

No, just those where a prosecution isn't in anyone's interests, bearing in mind the alleged victim's wishes and the amount of time that's passed. What would giving Polanski a jail sentence achieve?

I see where you are coming from in relation to 'who's interest is it in', however it will be setting a precedent and despite the length of time that has passed, he admitted to breaking the law.

I really do not see the logic in people, particularly other celebrities in jumping to his defence... they are in essence condoning his actions - and at the very least are saying what he did doesn't matter because it happened so long ago.

Not right, not right at all. He should answer these charges in court as would any one of us have to if we comitted a crime... doing a runner does not set an example...

Polanski has been prosecuted and has been found guilty, he needs to serve his sentence. I hope that clears things up for you.

Was he? I didn't think it'd got that far... if he'd have had the trial and been found guilty he'd ahve been taken into custody straight away.

I thought he'd just answered the charges in absentia and then ran away??

(Not being confontational, I actually don't know so please correct me if I'm wrong)

I've just copied this link that was posted on the age of consent thread. He did a lot more than have sex with a 13 yr old according to this.
http://www.vachss.com/mission/roman_polanski.html Filthy old nonce.

The French refused to extradite him back to USA as he was a French citizen. He's been skulking there for the last 30 years. Just when he thought it was safe to come out ... voila! he's arrested :D Like it!

......I do not adam and believe it.... am I hearing you right? Are you condoning what I think you're condoning?.....

No, you are misunderstanding the definition of paedophile = attracted to prepubescent children.

13 = fertile.How can you know that? :huh:

No, just those where a prosecution isn't in anyone's interests, bearing in mind the alleged victim's wishes and the amount of time that's passed. What would giving Polanski a jail sentence achieve?

he wont be prosecuted presumably, because he entered a plea bargain by pleading guilty. So all that needs to happen is the sentencing.

Was he? I didn't think it'd got that far... if he'd have had the trial and been found guilty he'd ahve been taken into custody straight away.

I thought he'd just answered the charges in absentia and then ran away??

(Not being confontational, I actually don't know so please correct me if I'm wrong)

Under a plea bargain he pleaded guilty to a lesser charge of engaging in unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor. He was then ordered by the court to report to a state prison for a 90-day psychiatric evaluation.

So I don't know how far along the legal process actually was, but there was never any doubt of his guilt.

Under a plea bargain he pleaded guilty to a lesser charge of engaging in unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor. He was then ordered by the court to report to a state prison for a 90-day psychiatric evaluation.

So I don't know how far along the legal process actually was, but there was never any doubt of his guilt.

which is why I cannot understand why France refuses to extradite him. Don't they care people know they are harbouring someone who did this crime?

The fact he hasn't reoffended in over 30 years does nail the myth that peados can't be cured. Why reopen old wounds when even the alleged victim wants the case dropped?
The man drugged and raped a 13 year old girl amongst other things forcibly sodomising her, ignoring her pleas that he stop.

There's nothing 'alleged' about this either he pled guilty.

Do you think all criminals who avoid justice for a few decades should be given a free pass or just those who drug and rape teenage girls?

which is why I cannot understand why France refuses to extradite him. Don't they care people know they are harbouring someone who did this crime?
An amazing number of people seem to think that he should get a free pass because he's a great artist.

How can you know that? :huh:

Exactly, whether they are fertile or sexually mature is entirely subjective, girls (and lads) develop and go through puberty at different ages.

No, you are misunderstanding the definition of paedophile = attracted to prepubescent children.

Secondly, I may have misunderstood the definition, but I don't think the definition is particularly revelant here. The legal age of consent is not defined by the age at which fertility is thought to have been reached is it?

I don't believe you are condoing....'that', but your point is ridiculous.

which is why I cannot understand why France refuses to extradite him. Don't they care people know they are harbouring someone who did this crime?

In france its probably considered normal.

An amazing number of people seem to think that he should get a free pass because he's a great artist.

Hes a nonce. I dont care what hes famous for. Now hell be famous for being a nonce.

The fact he hasn't reoffended in over 30 years does nail the myth that peados can't be cured.

Well he did shack up with a 15 year old Nastassja Kinski while on the run in Paris.

In his defence, Polanski claimed that Samantha Geimer looked and acted much older than she was. Although his plying her with Champagne and a Quaalude doesn't help his case much.

Hes a nonce. I dont care what hes famous for. Now hell be famous for being a nonce.
No I think he'll still principally be famous for directing China Town and Rosemary's Baby especially as he's been a convicted 'nonce' for several decades now and is still best known as a film director.

No I think he'll still principally be famous for directing China Town and Rosemary's Baby.Don't know about China Town but Rosemary's Baby was rubbish. I always wanted to watch it, and finally did, it a total letdown. Anyhoo, from what I gather he's always been famous for being a nonce :D

An amazing number of people seem to think that he should get a free pass because he's a great artist.

Having just familiarised myself with the details of what he did to that girl I have to say that I am amazed that people are willing to give him a free pass at all. Truly despicable, and for the record far worse than anything that Gary Glitter was charged with.

:rant:

No I think he'll still principally be famous for directing China Town and Rosemary's Baby especially as he's been a convicted 'nonce' for several decades now and is still best known as a film director.

Your probably right.
Unfortunatly.

Don't know about China Town but Rosemary's Baby was rubbish.
Wrong Rosemary's Baby is amazing it's your taste in films that's rubbish.

Wrong Rosemary's Baby is amazing it's your taste in films that's rubbish.Maybe it is, fella, but at least I can recognise a dirty old nonce when I see one, whether he makes amazing films or not :hihi:

Rosemary's Baby was supposed to be an old horror film, maybe scared people in those days, but it was slow and boring in my tasteless opinion :P

Having just familiarised myself with the details of what he did to that girl I have to say that I am amazed that people are willing to give him a free pass at all. Truly despicable, and for the record far worse than anything that Gary Glitter was charged with.

:rant:

In fact the more I think about it, the more I worry that I am complicit along with the rest of society in giving Polanski the benefit of the doubt.

Because he was an artist I shouldn't worry about his little indiscretion, indeed I shouldn't even bother to familiarise myself with the details because, well it was probably nothing anyway. He "dated" the 14 year old Nastassja Kinski as well, but she had already appeared naked in films, and hey who wouldn't? He's a genius film maker, and geniuses have their little character flaws don't they?

Then there was Michael Jackson. Half of us thought they should throw the book at him, and the other half, the half that thought he was still any good as an artist, thought he was innocent.

And then there was Gary Glitter. Well he was always rubbish, so we all agreed that he should rot in jail.

The real scandal here is the enthusiasm with which Polanski's friends in the film industry are rushing to condone his behaviour, and denounce his arrest. The real scandal is that myself and others have placed "genius" in the balance in this case and others.

His "genius" is entirely irrelevant. All should be equal before the law. If Polanski were not a "genius" film-director, but just another absconded sex-offender, no-one would consider it wrong to arrest him now.

It does seem as though his initial plea bargain would have got him off with a much lighter sentence then his crime deserved. "Unlawful sex with a minor" or "statutory rape" doesn't really fully describe the horrific nature of his crime.

No, you are misunderstanding the definition of paedophile = attracted to prepubescent children.

Actually, you misunderstand; the Oxford dictionary definition is "someone who is sexually attracted to children"...

He's been convicted and he's run away to escape sentencing. Why should he now not serve this sentence?

Ronnie Biggs' cell was waiting for him when he got back, and he didn't rape any kids.

Actually, you misunderstand; the Oxford dictionary definition is "someone who is sexually attracted to children"...

He's been convicted and he's run away to escape sentencing. Why should he now not serve this sentence?

Ronnie Biggs' cell was waiting for him when he got back, and he didn't rape any kids.

I think he should serve his sentence. I think the courts should come down hard on him. But 13 is more teenager than child. I wouldn't call it paedophilia, although I do think it wrong.

I think he should serve his sentence. I think the courts should come down hard on him. But 13 is more teenager than child. I wouldn't call it paedophilia, although I do think it wrong.Even these days, for a 13 yr old, being sodomised by an ugly old man, would be horrific. In fact it'd be horrific for most people, of either sex or age. I really am finding it hard to credit that some people in the entertainment world are rushing to offer him support. He should be and should have been ostracised for his behaviour like any other old perve would have been. I understand that the French Government didn't want to send one of their citizens to face justice in another country, but instead of allowing him his liberty all these years, he should have been prosecuted in France.

I wonder what is going to come out of the woodwork now he's been taken into custody? We shall see.

Having just familiarised myself with the details of what he did to that girl I have to say that I am amazed that people are willing to give him a free pass at all. Truly despicable,
I only became aware of what he did recently after coming across this Salon article (http://www.salon.com/ent/feature/2009/02/19/roman_polanski_documentary/) it's amazing how that's glossed over, particularly during the tedious Oscar build up for his holocaust film the fact that he's an unrepentant rapist never seemed to be mentioned in all the media coverage which so far as I recall (which isn't very well as I haven't the least interest in awards) simply made extremely ambiguous references as to why he wouldn't accept any awards personally.

and for the record far worse than anything that Gary Glitter was charged with.
I'm happily ignorant of the details of Glitter's crimes so I really couldn't say who's the worst.

Maybe it is, fella, but at least I can recognise a dirty old nonce when I see one, whether he makes amazing films or not :hihi:
I think you're nonce identifying ability is playing up as iirc he doesn't appear on camera in Rosemary's Baby.

Rosemary's Baby was supposed to be an old horror film, maybe scared people in those days, but it was slow and boring in my tasteless opinion :P
What would you suggest as a superior film in the same genre?

I think you're nonce identifying ability is playing up as iirc he doesn't appear on camera in Rosemary's Baby.:huh: who said anything about him being in his film?
What would you suggest as a superior film in the same genre?I don't watch films much but that film,imo, was nowhere near as good as the novel of the same name.

:huh: who said anything about him being in his film?
In response to my asserting the general wonderfulness of Rosemary's Bay you said:

"at least I can recognise a dirty old nonce when I see one, whether he makes amazing films or not"

Why would you say this unless you thought you saw "a dirty old nonce" you believed to be Polanski in the film?

I don't watch films much but that film,imo, was nowhere near as good as the novel of the same name.
I don't think "the Graduate" the film is as good as the film is as good "as the novel of the same name" still a really good film though.

You said the film was 'rubbish' not merely that it was disappointing, seeing as you've condemned the film for being "slow and boring" does this mean that the novel was fast and action packed?

In response to my asserting the general wonderfulness of Rosemary's Bay you said: "at least I can recognise a dirty old nonce when I see one, whether he makes amazing films or not"
Why would you say this unless you thought you saw "a dirty old nonce" you believed to be Polanski in the film?I was saying this in response to the people who seem to want to see Polanski let off because he produced a few films they liked. I'm not accusing you of having that attitude btw.

As for the rest of your post, it's way off topic, If you want to discuss films, start a thread.

In response to my asserting the general wonderfulness of Rosemary's Bay you said:

"at least I can recognise a dirty old nonce when I see one, whether he makes amazing films or not"

Why would you say this unless you thought you saw "a dirty old nonce" you believed to be Polanski in the film?





Dude... he's been on the telly before... he said nothing about seeing him in that particular film...

Under a plea bargain he pleaded guilty to a lesser charge of engaging in unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor. He was then ordered by the court to report to a state prison for a 90-day psychiatric evaluation.

So I don't know how far along the legal process actually was, but there was never any doubt of his guilt.

Actually, I'd say that there is. The plea bargain system is legalised blackmail, and I'm amazed that any supposedly-civilized country allows it. A legitimate court of law would immediately throw out the case precisely because he was threatened with a massively longer sentence unless he pleaded guilty.


I have read - somewhere, don't ask me where - that, having served 42 days of a sentence, he was led to believe that the plea bargain was going to be quashed and he was going to be made to serve the exact long sentence which he'd pleaded gulity to avoid - which is why he fled while on release. If this is in fact true, it's likely that even an American court will throw the case out.

......I do not adam and believe it.... am I hearing you right? Are you condoning what I think you're condoning?.....

He isn't condoning anything, and he hasn't said that the charge should be ignored; he's just trying to clear up a common misconception. Paedophilia refers to children, not to adolescents. The vast majority of 13-year-olds are not children, having already started - or even passed - puberty.

Do the crime, you should do the time. Seems strange that it's taken so long though, it's not as if he's been in hiding for the last 30 odd years.

In France, he did not have to. French law does not allow for the extradition of its own citizens under any circumstances whatsoever.

Its the age difference that matters - a 43 year old, who drugged a thirteen year old girl - he's a paedophile and deserves all he gets. :suspect:

I see, according to one of the papers today, that Whoopi Goldberg thinks he should be left alone because although she doesn't know what it was, it wasn't "rape-rape" :huh:

Stupid bloody woman, and it takes a lot for me to post that about another female, if she's really said that, what on earth would she consider rape-rape? :rant:

In France, he did not have to. French law does not allow for the extradition of its own citizens under any circumstances whatsoever.

European Arrest Warrants, while they do not apply to Polanski, are a form of extradition and allowed under French law.

European Arrest Warrants, while they do not apply to Polanski, are a form of extradition and allowed under French law.There seems to be a change in the political wind in France and elsewere?

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20090930/tpl-uk-polanski-france-43a8d4f.html

I see, according to one of the papers today, that Whoopi Goldberg thinks he should be left alone because although she doesn't know what it was, it wasn't "rape-rape" :huh:

Stupid bloody woman, and it takes a lot for me to post that about another female, if she's really said that, what on earth would she consider rape-rape? :rant:

Maybe she considers "rape-rape" to be some bloke in a mac dragging a woman down an alleyway as opposed to drugging and sodomizing a child.......mmmmm.

There seems to be an attitude that a) It was Hollywood b) She was part of the "scene" and c) She was somehow complicit.

I see, according to one of the papers today, that Whoopi Goldberg thinks he should be left alone because although she doesn't know what it was, it wasn't "rape-rape"

There are a number of people who I really wouldn't expect to defend him listed as signatories to this petition (http://www.sacd.fr/Le-cinema-soutient-Roman-Polanski-Petition-for-Roman-Polanski.1340.0.html) 'demanding' his immediate release.

The English translation of why he shouldn't be arrested at a film festival is fatuous; perhaps it makes more sense in French?

Seems the US have finally caught up with him after having a warrant out for his arrest for the last 31 years (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8277176.stm).

He was arrested after traveling to Zurich to collect a lifetime achievement award.

The odd thing is that he hasn't been difficult to catch up with until now, he's been in an out of Switzerland all his life and lives in Europe... The only place he's avoided has been the US.

which is why I cannot understand why France refuses to extradite him. Don't they care people know they are harbouring someone who did this crime?

As far as I've read there was never any request to extradite him.

Actually, you misunderstand; the Oxford dictionary definition is "someone who is sexually attracted to children"...

He's been convicted and he's run away to escape sentencing. Why should he now not serve this sentence?

Ronnie Biggs' cell was waiting for him when he got back, and he didn't rape any kids.

The legal definition is pre pubescent children. Indeed in developmental terms adolescents are no longer children, they're adolescents.
So the dictionary is correct, but you still misunderstood it, at 13 she was probably an adolescent and not a child. He had unlawful sex with a minor and possibly raped her, he isn't a paedophile.

...He had unlawful sex with a minor and possibly raped her...

I don't think there's much 'possibly' about it. Roman Polanski raped a child (http://www.salon.com/mwt/broadsheet/feature/2009/09/28/polanski_arrest/index.html).

I don't think there's much 'possibly' about it. Roman Polanski raped a child (http://www.salon.com/mwt/broadsheet/feature/2009/09/28/polanski_arrest/index.html).Cyclone's not really a person you know, he's a cyber bot. He has to cite the exact dictionary definition of everything, otherwise he can't compute :cool:

I don't think there's much 'possibly' about it. Roman Polanski raped a child (http://www.salon.com/mwt/broadsheet/feature/2009/09/28/polanski_arrest/index.html).This is a great article, maggi - it's just exactly what I feel about the whole thing, but so much better and more intricately explored. I might have to go and join Whoopi Goldberg's fansite and post it on there ...

Hes a nonce. I dont care what hes famous for. Now hell be famous for being a nonce.

I thought he was more famous for his wife being murdered by Charlie Mansons gang

He was guilty of the crime but the teenager and family involved wants the case dropped.

Perhaps the best thing would be to ban him from the US and leave it there?

I thought he was more famous for his wife being murdered by Charlie Mansons gang He was guilty of the crime but the teenager and family involved wants the case dropped. Perhaps the best thing would be to ban him from the US and leave it there?Recently there's been a few rapists brought to book in this country years after the event and in at least one case where the victim has since died. Do you think the police should just have let them off as well?

If he'd ever shown any remorse for what he did, maybe there might be a case. But he ran off to France and took up with a 14 year old girl almost straight away. Somehow there's a little taint in all this that the girl is somehow at fault ... it doesn't sit well with me that a middle aged man can drug, rape and sodomise a 13 yr old and everyone wants to excuse him because he made a few films? It's just bizarre.

I thought he was more famous for his wife being murdered by Charlie Mansons gang

He was guilty of the crime but the teenager and family involved wants the case dropped.
It's hardly surprising they'd like to put it behind them but seeing as he pled guilty I don't see why they really need to be brought into it, it's not as if they'll be needed as witnesses or anything.

Perhaps the best thing would be to ban him from the US and leave it there?
That would simply encourage more people to flee justice, it's entirely appropriate that states should keep on after fugitives convicted of crimes as serious as rape.

I don't think there's much 'possibly' about it. Roman Polanski raped a child (http://www.salon.com/mwt/broadsheet/feature/2009/09/28/polanski_arrest/index.html).

We're using salon.com as arbiter of the absolute truth now?

It gets it wrong right from the start, it's either minor or adolescent that he was accused of raping and whom now apparently doesn't want him prosecuting...

He did made a confession, although there seem to be some questions around the exact circumstances of that, which is probably the only interesting bit of this case. If it were the case that he'd made a confession and been on the run for 30 years (instead of being ignored by the US authorities for 30 years) then it would be a pretty open and shut case of him getting what he deserves.

If it were the case that he'd made a confession and been on the run for 30 years (instead of being ignored by the US authorities for 30 years) then it would be a pretty open and shut case of him getting what he deserves.He kept away from everywhere that he knew might throw him to the US, such as UK and obviously Switzerland, he must have thought he was teflon coated by now and let his guard down. The mills of god and all that ...

http://www.moviefill.com/Woody-Signs-Petition-To-Free-Polanski-18750/

Text of a petition with commentary from MovieFill.

He kept away from everywhere that he knew might throw him to the US, such as UK and obviously Switzerland, he must have thought he was teflon coated by now and let his guard down...

As I understand it, Polanski has a second home in Switzerland and has often visited the country - making it odd that he wasn't arrested before now.

As I understand it, Polanski has a second home in Switzerland and has often visited the country - making it odd that he wasn't arrested before now.
The "Obama effect" at work perhaps? Or maybe Polanski was seen lurking near the daughter of a Swiss minister or something?

Quite possibly - although I head a radio report in the week mentioning that the US authorities had tried extradition in the past but hadn't had enough notice to get the proper paperwork sorted before Polanski had left Switzerland and was safely back in France.

I see Woody Allen has signed, interesting. Him having an affair with his and Mia Farrow's adopted daughter. :suspect:

I see Woody Allen has signed, interesting. Him having an affair with his and Mia Farrow's adopted daughter. :suspect:

This made me laugh:

WOODY ALLEN: Leave him alone! All he did was have sex with a 13-year-old!
ROMAN POLANSKI: Yeah! I mean, it’s not like she was my stepdaughter or anything!
WOODY ALLEN: Aw, dude. Cold, bro. Cold.

He kept away from everywhere that he knew might throw him to the US, such as UK and obviously Switzerland, he must have thought he was teflon coated by now and let his guard down. The mills of god and all that ...

You probably ought to read the papers before making assumptions...

The "Obama effect" at work perhaps? Or maybe Polanski was seen lurking near the daughter of a Swiss minister or something?

His lawyers recently told the US administration that if they weren't serious about the charge they should formally drop it.
I guess they really should have just kept quiet.

You probably ought to read the papers before making assumptions...Why are you behaving as though you'e his lawyer? :huh:

We're using salon.com as arbiter of the absolute truth now?

Of course not. That article is a splendid polemic though. And it links (via The Smoking Gun (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/polanskicover1.html)) to Samantha Geimer's testimony before The Grand Jury of the County of Los Angeles, State of California in the case of The People vs. Roman Raymond Polanski.

It gets it wrong right from the start, it's either minor or adolescent that he was accused of raping...

It was Samantha Geimer he was accused and convicted of raping - because he raped her. If you have better sources for the absolute truth, please post them.

Of course not. That article is a splendid polemic though. And it links (via The Smoking Gun (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/polanskicover1.html)) to Samantha Geimer's testimony before The Grand Jury of the County of Los Angeles, State of California in the case of The People vs. Roman Raymond Polanski.



It was Samantha Geimer he was accused and convicted of raping - because he raped her. If you have better sources for the absolute truth, please post them.

He doesn't need it, he's an admirer of his work and we all know that if you have the backing of enough of those it can paste over any indiscretion...

It was Samantha Geimer he was accused and convicted of raping - because he raped her. If you have better sources for the absolute truth, please post them.
He wasn't convicted of rape at all though was he.

He wasn't convicted of rape at all though was he.

Unlawful intercourse with a minor wasn't it? Which is a very woolly way of saying rape.

And lets not forget he plea bargained for that, which was the lesser of 6 charges.

He doesn't need it, he's an admirer of his work...
I'm an admirer of Polanski's work too.

Latest news is that he has been refused bail.

Latest news is that he has been refused bail.

Good!

Arrogant pervert. :rant:

(not you; him! :hihi:)

At least Chris Rock can be relied on to give a sensible viewpoint on the matter:-

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xaoci5_chris-rock-on-jay-leno_webcam

About 2 mins 40 in.

Latest news is that the Swiss have turned down the US extradition application and he is no longer under house arrest.

Good for the Swiss :thumbsup:

http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment_and_arts/10601930.stm

Good!

Arrogant pervert. :rant:

(not you; him! :hihi:)

:hihi: :hihi:

13 = fertile.

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