So Laws was going on about 3 big games coming up and 9 points up for grabs.

owls 1 Boro 3
Blades 3 owls 2 (but owls deserved a draw) :hihi::hihi:

still 3 points up for grabs Brian :hihi::hihi:

Hopefully we will beat Cardiff, we beat them only 4 or 5 months ago at Hillsborough , and all they have really done is buy Michael Chopra, ooo damn we'll be lucky then lol.

Hopefully we will beat Cardiff, we beat them only 4 or 5 months ago at Hillsborough , and all they have really done is buy Michael Chopra, ooo damn we'll be lucky then lol.

and offloaded their weak link in defence on you :)

and offloaded their weak link in defence on you :)

Who hopefully will not be an automatic choice, I will say it as I see it, and so far I have seen very little from his direction. As I see it we have options, and options have to be realised. :confused:

and offloaded their weak link in defence on you :)

Exactley your not wrong, although they have lost other players aswell Cardiff, like Glenn Loovens to Rangers, Paul Parry to Preston, Roger Johnson to Birmingham, not forgetting they had Aaron Ramsey on loan last season aswell.
Although they bought Chopra it seem's they have been weakend more than stregthened, Ross McCormack been out for week's hasn't helped them either.
Him getting injured has coincided with Cardiff's sudden bad performances.

Both Sheffield clubs are indistutably stuck in the second tier of English football. Neither have any chance of being anything but a one trick pony in the Premiership.

OK SUFC's Chairman has £180milion (source, Sunday Times Rich List), Man City's owner has £245billion (source, the media), we have bog all (source genaral knowledge), what the hell can either of our clubs do to compete?

We both have the potential to be a Wigan, Bolton, WBA or Stoke, but is this enough? I had my early 1960's and 1990's, but seriously doubt our ability to replicate these times. We have had 15 years in the top tier in the past 30 years, Utd have had 5 (not a dig), please tell me where either club is going. :confused:

Both Sheffield clubs are indistutably stuck in the second tier of English football. Neither have any chance of being anything but a one trick pony in the Premiership.

OK SUFC's Chairman has £180milion (source, Sunday Times Rich List), Man City's owner has £245billion (source, the media), we have bog all (source genaral knowledge), what the hell can either of our clubs do to compete?

We both have the potential to be a Wigan, Bolton, WBA or Stoke, but is this enough? I had my early 1960's and 1990's, but seriously doubt our ability to replicate these times. We have had 15 years in the top tier in the past 30 years, Utd have had 5 (not a dig), please tell me where either club is going. :confused:

Thats put a dampner on our plans then. :(

Should both clubs give up now and aim for mid table then?

Both Sheffield clubs are indistutably stuck in the second tier of English football. Neither have any chance of being anything but a one trick pony in the Premiership.

OK SUFC's Chairman has £180milion (source, Sunday Times Rich List), Man City's owner has £245billion (source, the media), we have bog all (source genaral knowledge), what the hell can either of our clubs do to compete?

We both have the potential to be a Wigan, Bolton, WBA or Stoke, but is this enough? I had my early 1960's and 1990's, but seriously doubt our ability to replicate these times. We have had 15 years in the top tier in the past 30 years, Utd have had 5 (not a dig), please tell me where either club is going. :confused:
Ive been saying that for ages Crooksey, unless some multi millionaire come's and take's us over we won't win nowt to write home about, either of us.

Thats put a dampner on our plans then. :(

Should both clubs give up now and aim for mid table then?

He's right though, Sheffield for all it's fan's love for there club's are just not doing it simple as. I go to Chelsea games a few times a season and it's different gravy down at the Bridge, i ill be dead before i buy a Champions League programme at either Sheffied ground.
The touts down there are like in the 50s and have probablymade a living out of doing it, it must be 10 years since i saw a tout at Hillsborough, probably more.

Thats put a dampner on our plans then. :(

Should both clubs give up now and aim for mid table then?

You tell me mate, I haven't got a clue. :confused:

Both Sheffield clubs are indistutably stuck in the second tier of English football. Neither have any chance of being anything but a one trick pony in the Premiership.

OK SUFC's Chairman has £180milion (source, Sunday Times Rich List), Man City's owner has £245billion (source, the media), we have bog all (source genaral knowledge), what the hell can either of our clubs do to compete?

We both have the potential to be a Wigan, Bolton, WBA or Stoke, but is this enough? I had my early 1960's and 1990's, but seriously doubt our ability to replicate these times. We have had 15 years in the top tier in the past 30 years, Utd have had 5 (not a dig), please tell me where either club is going. :confused:

I honestly think both Wednesday and United are "bigger" clubs than the above teams you mentioned, I also think both Sheffield teams have the potential to be successful in the top tier. I think it can be done without investment, all though to sustain and possibly progress an Arab billionaire would help :)

I honestly think both Wednesday and United are "bigger" clubs than the above teams you mentioned, I also think both Sheffield teams have the potential to be successful in the top tier. I think it can be done without investment, all though to sustain and possibly progress an Arab billionaire would help :)

I know it sound's crazy this but if you think how much McCabe has got tucked away in his bank account, you would have thought he would have splashed the cash more than he has.
I suppose we havent got a chairman like your's so i suppose you shoul be the one who's asking the question at your chairman, Brian the Blade told him straight :hihi:
That's the only option we have a takeover, you have the man already in place, but it has to be said that he's bloody tight with his cash.

I know it sound's crazy this but if you think how much McCabe has got tucked away in his bank account, you would have thought he would have splashed the cash more than he has.
I suppose we havent got a chairman like your's so i suppose you shoul be the one who's asking the question at your chairman, Brian the Blade told him straight :hihi:
That's the only option we have a takeover, you have the man already in place, but it has to be said that he's bloody tight with his cash.

For all his reported wealth, I don't think anyone could/would really expect that much or all of it would be pushed into helping a football team by paying highly inflated fees and wages. I expect the people on the boards of the other parts of Kev's empire sit there thinking "he'd better not drain all the cash out of us for some second tier football team"... He is a businessman after all, and I doubt he could just move huge swathes of cash from one to the other without a lot of grief at the companies involved, never mind any regulatory authorities in those industries!

I don't think i'd be too happy to think that to be able to sign a new striker, Kev had to sell off one of the companies, and risk many employees losing their jobs! It is only football after all...

And anyway, there's many people on here rightly unhappy at having to pay £20-30 to watch a game - imagine being expected to fork out millions of pounds to fund a new signing or the wage bill, only to find you're getting abused on message boards or radio phone-ins! :)

Ive been saying that for ages Crooksey, unless some multi millionaire come's and take's us over we won't win nowt to write home about, either of us.

Why not pompey won the FA cup a few years ago without a multi-millionare bankrolling them- they were just a well run club.

Why not pompey won the FA cup a few years ago without a multi-millionare bankrolling them- they were just a well run club.

And look at them now, destined for the Championship and will only get out because of their new owner.

And look at them now, destined for the Championship and will only get out because of their new owner.

Correct, I can't see the Blades playing them next season.

Cos we are going up.

I honestly think both Wednesday and United are "bigger" clubs than the above teams you mentioned, I also think both Sheffield teams have the potential to be successful in the top tier. I think it can be done without investment, all though to sustain and possibly progress an Arab billionaire would help :)

Historically, I'm sure that's correct, however with the exception of West Brom, they are all established Premier League teams something both Sheffield teams can only aspir to at the moment. Wednesday will be a long, long time befor they are promoted to the Premier and United (who I believe will be promoted this season) will always yo-yo between the top two divisions.

Unfortunately for both teams, when L**ds are promoted next season, it will be they and neither of the Sheffield teams who will in all probability progress on to becoming Yorkshire's dominant team again.

And you dont know how hard that is for me to acknowledge :(

And look at them now, destined for the Championship and will only get out because of their new owner.

Thats proves my point- as long as you have a solid foundation and good communication the you will do well in the premiership- something united has an abundance of. Once you loose that then you go downhill rapidly.

The way things are going, clubs will need multi-millionaire sugar daddies just to keep their heads above water in the Premiership.

Look at how many clubs are, or have been, competing in the top division purely because of massive investment from individual investors or consortiums. Blackburn, Fulham, Wigan, Portsmouth, Birmingham, Reading, Sunderland, Middlesborough to name a few. Not to mention Chelsea and Man City who wouldn't be in the position they are without billionaires choosing those clubs as their playthings.

Ive been saying that for ages Crooksey, unless some multi millionaire come's and take's us over we won't win nowt to write home about, either of us.

Sadly Corker, a multi millionaire isn't enough these days.
United have a multimillionaire chairman and he's skint in football terms, some people will realise this one day.
You have to own and have the wealth of a country behind you to do anything worthwhile with a football club these days.
QPR haven't taken off like a rocket, and how much are they worth?
I can still see a European Super league on the horizon, and if that happens, lesser clubs may have a sniff of something in a reduced 'Premier League'.
Other than that, it's second tier football for both Sheffield clubs I reckon.
Neither club is anywhere near the level needed.

Historically, I'm sure that's correct, however with the exception of West Brom, they are all established Premier League teams something both Sheffield teams can only aspir to at the moment. Wednesday will be a long, long time befor they are promoted to the Premier and United (who I believe will be promoted this season) will always yo-yo between the top two divisions.

Unfortunately for both teams, when L**ds are promoted next season, it will be they and neither of the Sheffield teams who will in all probability progress on to becoming Yorkshire's dominant team again.

And you dont know how hard that is for me to acknowledge :(


Leeds have not done anything yet, they keep bottling it and even if they do go up this year if they take as long to get out of the champioship I would hope at least one of the sheffield clubs [Blades] had progressed to the top flight.

Sadly Corker, a multi millionaire isn't enough these days.
United have a multimillionaire chairman and he's skint in football terms, some people will realise this one day.
You have to own and have the wealth of a country behind you to do anything worthwhile with a football club these days.
QPR haven't taken off like a rocket, and how much are they worth?
I can still see a European Super league on the horizon, and if that happens, lesser clubs may have a sniff of something in a reduced 'Premier League'.
Other than that, it's second tier football for both Sheffield clubs I reckon.
Neither club is anywhere near the level needed.

Very true - best either can hope for is a season where it all clicks into place (like we had in 2006), and then get a foothold in the top flight, and make it to a second season (which we didn't). While there's a reasonable chance we could get back up in the next few seasons, even clubs like Wigan, Bolton, Stoke and Hull could be looking down at us as established Premier clubs, with stronger finances from having multiple years up there.

What's happened at QPR is odd - with the finances supposedly involved there, you'd have expected more of a challenge from them, yet they can only attract managers of the calibre of Jim Magilton!