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slickwitch
21-09-2009, 09:29
Forgive me but where the bloody hell have they been snuck in from????

They are huge, they are ugly, they are meant to have been an "entertainment hub" for the Endcliffe Village as far as I remember.

Thousands of students putting empty bottles in windows alongside damp t-shirts in an effort to scream "rebellion is my middle name - well it would be if it wasn't Geoff". Not so much with the entertainment methinks :huh:

H.P
21-09-2009, 10:12
They have been building them for a few months now, the rooms seemed to come ready made on the back of a lorry! Probably explaining why it went up so quick. The lorrys made loads of mess on the road, dragging mud from the site allover.
Bet theres loads of rooms in that site, so the 40 will be full of freshers once again.

slickwitch
21-09-2009, 10:20
Well, that is my point actually. No one seemed to be aware or consulted about the impact of such a huge development on an already chaotic route at rush hour.

We all knew about the Endcliffe Village but this one seems to have sneaked in on the back of it.

H.P
21-09-2009, 10:31
Yes, the last I heard they were trying to build residential housing.. then all of a sudden theres about a million portacabins getting cladded up to look like real buildings. think I will start walking down to broomhill with the pram, allready had one daft fresher allmost dump his rucksack on my newborn :rant: The next one to do anyting simalar will be on the reciving end of my erratic hormone levels..
Prehaps they did not need any planning to just replace the halls that were there before they bulldozed them, or they greased some corrupt palms

Ousetunes
21-09-2009, 12:16
Prehaps they did not need any planning to just replace the halls that were there before they bulldozed them, or they greased some corrupt palms

Well, it's a nice, affluent area, isn't it?

What other reason would this council need to place a turd on a top hat?

slickwitch
21-09-2009, 13:56
Well, it's a nice, affluent area, isn't it?

What other reason would this council need to place a turd on a top hat?

Indeed!

:loopy:

GordonBennet
21-09-2009, 13:58
Why get all NIMBY about it? Ranmoor's had student flats and halls of residence for years, probably long before anyone on this thread lived there. Surely it was just as full of students when Ballard Hall, Ranmoor Hall, Tapton Hall etc were open?

Ousetunes
21-09-2009, 14:23
Why get all NIMBY about it? Ranmoor's had student flats and halls of residence for years, probably long before anyone on this thread lived there. Surely it was just as full of students when Ballard Hall, Ranmoor Hall, Tapton Hall etc were open?

The older buildings were/are in keeping with the area which has a conservation order on it. Admittedly, Ballard Hall always looked a real dump but at least it was hidden away behind Fulwood Road. And it still stands there (sic) in all its vandalised, unkempt and derelict glory.

While I believe that the old Ranmoor Hall Of Residence blended in with its surroundings (colour- and style-wise) these new boxes don't.

'Boxes' is quite a fitting description, because like the Egg Box (Town Hall) in town, I bet these boxes don't last 20 years either before being pulled to the ground.

goldenfleece
21-09-2009, 15:19
Explored these new flats the other week just before they were handed back to the University. They had zero security and anyone could have a wander to see what all the fuss was about. The bar was very bland, and it was all very airport lounge. The rooms are TINY, and very expensive too. Very concrete jungle and all far too close together.....a nightmare to live in I imagine if u want a bit of privacy....but then again, I guess privact never comes into play in Halls of residence....or rather, 'student village' to be PC now.

Alien
21-09-2009, 15:35
Forgive me but where the bloody hell have they been snuck in from????

They are huge, they are ugly, they are meant to have been an "entertainment hub" for the Endcliffe Village as far as I remember.

Thousands of students putting empty bottles in windows alongside damp t-shirts in an effort to scream "rebellion is my middle name - well it would be if it wasn't Geoff". Not so much with the entertainment methinks :huh:

They have been building them for a few months now, the rooms seemed to come ready made on the back of a lorry! Probably explaining why it went up so quick. The lorrys made loads of mess on the road, dragging mud from the site allover.
Bet theres loads of rooms in that site, so the 40 will be full of freshers once again.

Well, that is my point actually. No one seemed to be aware or consulted about the impact of such a huge development on an already chaotic route at rush hour.

We all knew about the Endcliffe Village but this one seems to have sneaked in on the back of it.


All of which implies..it can't have had that much of an impact...considering you've only just noticed.

HP. The roads they mess get cleaned every day by a specialised machine. Yes it gets muddy, it's a building site:roll:..and they've been building it for more than a year now.

I'm sure the rush hour madness could be alleviated a little if the mothers in their 4x4's walked their cherished little uns to school.

jengo
21-09-2009, 15:44
Wow, if Tapton and Sorby were "inkeeping with the local area" I'd hate to see something that stuck out!

mike142sl
21-09-2009, 20:46
The demolition of Ranmoor Hall of residence started in March 2008 and there has been a steady flow of traffic ever since, however not that you would have noticed - in fact you didn't seem to.
Someone was kind enough to film the demolition http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksd2xxJ-5E4
The previous buildings were far from in keeping with the area, these look a bit better and to be fair are not that noticable from the road.

Dizzyblonde
22-09-2009, 06:43
You cant winge if you didn't vote in the council elections. Most of you probably could not be bothered.

H.P
22-09-2009, 08:21
All of which implies..it can't have had that much of an impact...considering you've only just noticed.

HP. The roads they mess get cleaned every day by a specialised machine. Yes it gets muddy, it's a building site:roll:..and they've been building it for more than a year now.

I'm sure the rush hour madness could be alleviated a little if the mothers in their 4x4's walked their cherished little uns to school.

Well not being a 4x4 driving mother I can't comment on the rush hour. I don't drive at all.. thats why I use the bus!!!!
I have nothing against students, I just wish they would pay some consideration to others around them and not swing great rucksacks round without looking.
And just to clear up, I had noticed the daily road sweep, just like I noticed the boxes of rooms being deliverd.. And just to add.. I stil think they are butt ugly,poorly constucted prefabs cleverly disguised as a real building.. I'll look forward to the constant lorry loads of new ones in 10 years when this lot have worn out/blown down/burnt to the ground

slickwitch
22-09-2009, 08:41
Never fail to be amazed at the bile and bitter judgement doled out on this forum.

I have of course noticed them and believed them to be, as was proposed, part of the development as an entertainment hub. I began to be more aware that this was not the case as the boxes arrived. Clearly this is not what we had been led to believe was happening to the site and it is the local deceit I am objecting to as much as anything else.

As a driver I pay a road fund license. Strange things. They cost a lot of money but they do give me permission to drive my car.

KATIEB_23
22-09-2009, 09:02
Has anyone got any recent pics?
I've just had a look on Google streetview but its pretty out-of-date.

JIbbo
22-09-2009, 09:04
Forgive me but where the bloody hell have they been snuck in from????

They are huge, they are ugly, they are meant to have been an "entertainment hub" for the Endcliffe Village as far as I remember.

Thousands of students putting empty bottles in windows alongside damp t-shirts in an effort to scream "rebellion is my middle name - well it would be if it wasn't Geoff". Not so much with the entertainment methinks :huh:

The flats are just replacing what was already there.

Though the development does seem a lot bigger than people were expecting.

The constructions been on going for MANY months !

mike142sl
22-09-2009, 09:10
The constructions been on going for MANY months !Since MARCH 2008

woodyg
22-09-2009, 09:42
The Ranmoor Village was always part of the Planning Application that was originally submitted by UOS in 2005. Plans for the village have been available to the public since this time. Construction began in mid 2008. It is a testament to the construction company involved that some people have only just noticed them!!!!

scottf
22-09-2009, 10:37
I have been running past that site virtually every morning for the past year and they arn;t pre-fabs for sure, I think its good- students are the lifeblood of sheffield and will provide a welcome boost to the economy of broomhill, ranmoor etc etc.

goldenfleece
22-09-2009, 10:52
I have been running past that site virtually every morning for the past year and they arn;t pre-fabs for sure, I think its good- students are the lifeblood of sheffield and will provide a welcome boost to the economy of broomhill, ranmoor etc etc.

They are pre-fabs, each unit was a pre-made box and winched into place....they wont last 20 years. This sort of thing is lego set disposable housing on a shoestring budget, they would, IMO, have been better refurbishing the original buildings, which were very very solid indeed judging by the demolition time they took.

scottf
22-09-2009, 12:17
They are pre-fabs, each unit was a pre-made box and winched into place....they wont last 20 years. This sort of thing is lego set disposable housing on a shoestring budget, they would, IMO, have been better refurbishing the original buildings, which were very very solid indeed judging by the demolition time they took.

I stand corrected then, i never saw the boxes going in (then again i was running past at 6.45am there wasn't many workmen about suprisingley)

Did you ever go into the old buildings? It was the same design as a prison in sweden- shocking building with massive corridors and tiny rooms and shared bathroom- whats in there now HAS to be better than what was there before.

plus in 20 years- who knows what type of accomodation students will need? as long as the public don't pay for it then let them build.

slickwitch
22-09-2009, 12:26
The Ranmoor Village was always part of the Planning Application that was originally submitted by UOS in 2005. Plans for the village have been available to the public since this time. Construction began in mid 2008. It is a testament to the construction company involved that some people have only just noticed them!!!!

For the love of God read!!!!!

Yes I noticed the construction. It is only in the last few weeks that has been completely obvious that this is about housing and not an entertainment venue.

I'm sure planning has been available to see.....but why have all media releases referred to the plot as a hub for the supposedly bigger housing site at the Endcliffe Site. It has seemed as though this site would be merely an appendage.

KATIEB_23
22-09-2009, 12:32
Can anyone provide a link to any photos or 3D visuals or information? I've had a bit of a Google but no luck.

I am just being nosey as I used to live in Earnshaw Hall many years ago before it was demolished...

H.P
22-09-2009, 12:48
The Ranmoor Village was always part of the Planning Application that was originally submitted by UOS in 2005. Plans for the village have been available to the public since this time. Construction began in mid 2008. It is a testament to the construction company involved that some people have only just noticed them!!!!

I think the jist of it is we all noticed them being built, it was just a shock to find out that they were mainly halls.
It would have been hard not to notice the constant flow of H.G.V and plant flowing in and out of the site, equally hard not to notice the little road sweeping lorry that constantly held up the traffic on Fulwood Rd.
The students dont cause to many issues personally for me, But then again I am not sandwiched between the two large villages.

mike142sl
22-09-2009, 12:52
They may technically be Pre Fab, but don't confuse that with the pre fab technology of the 1940s. These are very different.

woodyg
22-09-2009, 13:19
Prefabricated steel, constructed off site to cause as minimal impact on local community as possible. All ensuite. There is a small hub building in the middle of the site which has a bar, conference and dining facilities, this, too was always part of the planning application. No workmen at 0645 because site wasn't allowed to operate before 0730 as per planning. Road sweeper was a requirement by planning and had to operate when site was operating.

JIbbo
22-09-2009, 13:24
For the love of God read!!!!!

Yes I noticed the construction. It is only in the last few weeks that has been completely obvious that this is about housing and not an entertainment venue.

I'm sure planning has been available to see.....but why have all media releases referred to the plot as a hub for the supposedly bigger housing site at the Endcliffe Site. It has seemed as though this site would be merely an appendage.

The pre fabs have been going up for MONTHS ! not weeks !

Its been a student hall site for 30 years, and it will continue to be !

to be honest i personally think its going to be the last of the new halls the university will build !

goldenfleece
22-09-2009, 13:35
Did you ever go into the old buildings? It was the same design as a prison in sweden- shocking building with massive corridors and tiny rooms and shared bathroom- whats in there now HAS to be better than what was there before.ld.

Yes been in them many times in the past and the old rooms were iBIGGER than the replacement 'boxes' they installed. Prices reflect the new build and its not going to leave anyone with any cash for entertainment at all.......the new 'boxes' , not sure of the dimensions, but when the Uni actually bother to put some pix up in their accomodation section you can bet they will be 'stretched' to make them not look like rabbit hutches. My bathroom is bigger than one of those student 'boxes'.

So its newer, but that's all I can say about it. All the landscape and greenery has been felled, so its actually MORE of a concrete jungle (except no concrete here with these pre-fab boxes) than its predecessor.

The boxes are what they are, simply boxes put together off site and assembled like a lego set on-site. They make houses like this in Sweden at the moment, they are cheap, factory assembled mas produced but not durable. All the plumbing and electrics are pre-build into the box, so everything is totally standard. They are simply PLUG N PLAY units that can be built up into any height or shape of 'village' design. At least the older building was concrete and had some sound insulation.......they look slightly prettier than a concrete block admittedly, but then that also depends on your taste in archtecture..Think about it...the time taken for demolition of the original site was far MORE than the time it took to build the replacement. ..in 10 years time or less these will look like battered Council flats and be riddled with maintenance problems...if one of these box units develops a terminal fault, you cant take the whole site apart to replace it! This is the problem with this type of housing, its quick to assemble, but as each unit is a pre build 'solid state' cube, if there is a fault then you get stuck with it.....

saw it once on that Grand Design TV series, a build of lego set rooms and one bottom 'cube' was faulty, but nothing could be done without total demolition and starting again....

http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/31/e2/e8/grotty-very-basic-room.jpg

Grim Reeper
22-09-2009, 13:54
Ive gone past this development for years and what an improvement it has made to the old run down buildings previously on there. Technology moves on and we are in the 21st century which some of the comments made on here seem to forget.

Im sure everybody who has commented upon this forum has had the oppurtunity to object to the planning permission and building control ??

goldenfleece
22-09-2009, 16:16
Ive gone past this development for years and what an improvement it has made to the old run down buildings previously on there. Technology moves on and we are in the 21st century which some of the comments made on here seem to forget.

Im sure everybody who has commented upon this forum has had the oppurtunity to object to the planning permission and building control ??

They look OK and better than before, as I said....I am commenting on the incredibly small size of each unit and the durability of the scheme, plus the fact rental prices for students have risen sharply since the last year, when they had MORE space, and it cost LESS.....now they are sandwiched together like battery hens and are paying more for less space...

irenewilde
23-09-2009, 09:04
Did you ever go into the old buildings? It was the same design as a prison in sweden- shocking building with massive corridors and tiny rooms and shared bathroom- whats in there now HAS to be better than what was there before.


Do you know I and thousands of other students lived perfectly well for 2 years in a hall with huge corridors, smallish rooms and shared bathrooms (and shared laundry facilities) and we had a brilliant time. Didn't mind a bit. Now the poor little darlings need en-suite facilities to keep them happy.

And just to comment on this thread in general - yes, they are shipped-in pre-fab boxes because I've seen them bringing them in, yes, it's a much bigger development than I'd anticipated and yes, it's extraordinarily ugly and sticks out like a sore thumb from miles away. I think it was when we were walking out towards the moors past Lady Cannings plantation a couple of weeks that we looked across towards Ranmoor and realised what an absolute eyesore the development is.

And they were pretty hit and miss about cleaning Fulwood Road. It was slippery with mud on more than one occasion.