I have seen Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory on television many times but something caught my eye what i haven't seen before.

When they go into the tunnel on the Wonka Boat on the river of chocolate (mmmmm chocolate) and the boat gets faster and faster you can see a chicken having its head chopped of with a knife has anyone else see this?

I do kinda recall something like that....and now i'm a little freaked out....don't think i'll be able to sleep

Originally posted by Jon
I have seen Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory on television many times but something caught my eye what i haven't seen before.

When they go into the tunnel on the Wonka Boat on the river of chocolate (mmmmm chocolate) and the boat gets faster and faster you can see a chicken having its head chopped of with a knife has anyone else see this?

yes!!! I have to cover my children's eye's when it comes on.

Yep, I've seen that bit as well..

The new wonka film does not have anything like that when they go through the tunnel in the boat.

Yes. To be honest, and to risk showing myself up now..... I love this film! We used to watch it as kids over and over again until we broke the tape and knew it word for word. Lol.

So, yes I am familiar with the chicken that meets it's maker... and everything else to do with this chocaholics televisual delight.

:blush:

I sat and watched it on Sunday, it's great film. My favourite line, when Augustus Gloop is stuck int he pipe and Wonka says :

"The suspense is unbearable.....I hope it lasts"

Brilliant.

Yeah, that's a fabulous line. I love it all though really. I even called my little boy Charlie. Ok, so now I'm just being weird.... I'll go now.....

:suspect:

Loved the first film. someone said that the Umpa Lumpas were a bit odd looking in the second film???? Has anyone seen it and doe they think they're better or worse?

I haven't seen it and although I love Johnny Depp, I'm not sure I can bring myself to see this film. I would be interested also to hear from people who have though. I don't believe there could be a better Veruca Salt!

I can't believe you are discussing this film and nobody has mentioned the oompa loompas yet!

I didn't sleep for about 3 years - my mom had to sit on my "dusty bin" bin holding my hand. They were the SCARIEST thing i EVER encountered in my childhood.

Them and the wheelers in Return to Oz.

Return to Oz - thats a whole other thread.


Dorothy Gaaaaaale. Nah forget the Ooopma Loompas. MOMBI was the scariest thing I encountered in my childhood.

321, Dusty Bin and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory....

Wow,all things 70's - taking me back now!

You'll be talking about wrestling followed by Worzel Gummidge next!

I actually rather liked this movie. Although Johnny Depp as Willy Wonka struck me as somewhat creepy. I much preferred Gene Wilder in the original. I heard somewhere that there is only ONE Oompah Loompah. They just made him look like a hundred. And the kids (with the exception of Charlie, of course) are horribly bratty.

Some trailers. http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&id=1808403419&cf=trailer

:) Sierra

Originally posted by BoroughGal
321, Dusty Bin and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory....

Wow,all things 70's - taking me back now!

You'll be talking about wrestling followed by Worzel Gummidge next!


Ah, them were t' days. Do you remember Celebrity Squares with Arthur Mullard who always sat in the bottom right hand box? 321 was Big TV back then. And Saturday afternoon wrestling...gosh.

As for Charlie and the Choco Factory. Just like all the so-called remakes, I'll never go and see the likes of a remake of a classic that simply can't be bettered. And that includes The Italian Job.

You just know as soon as the Yanks get their mits on these films they're just going to destroy them.

What next? Another remake of Wuthering Heights, set in Dakota, Catherine Earnshaw played by Britney Spears.

Gulp, indeed.:o

i remember the chickens head being chopped off very well. the whole bit in the boat on the chocolate river is very weird. there are pictures of an atomic bomb going off and war scenes if i remember correctly. i hated it when i was little and used to fast forward that bit (oh don't you just love video's)

willy wonka and grease where my favourite two films when i was little, i know both of them off by heart - the songs and the script and i'm not ashamed to admit because they are fab !!!

not sure i want to see the new willy wonka, i'm sure its fabulous but it might ruin my childhood :(

the umpa lumpa's are my absolute favourite!!

'doopa de do, i've got another puzzle for you........' :clap:

Originally posted by BoroughGal
You'll be talking about wrestling followed by Worzel Gummidge next!

I remember you had to sit through that bloody teletyper thing giving you the footie scores before Dr Who came on, then they replaced it with a digital one that didn't go any quicker (?)

I cannot watch the film because of the dwarves. Are they known as 'Oompah Lumpahs' or something equally ludicrous? At any rate, I cannot abide dwarves. Don't Look Now and Snow White are off limits too, for obvious reasons. Who really likes dwarves? Nobody. That's who, nobody. To hell with dwarves. Who needs them?

This has got to be my fave film as a kid as well as now :blush:

I even got my kid into this film when it was on the other day has she wants to see the new one.

Thing is why did they copy the orig film.I would have love to see how charlie got on since he got the factory when he won it.But even so im goin to see the new one with johnny depp in just to see if it as good as the orig one.

i'm led to believe its not a copy of the orginal film, thats its not a msical and is close to the book. Its supposed to be quite different and from the clips i've seen i think even some of the kids are of a differnet sex than they were in the orginal.

I'm hoping the new film is nothing like the old one - that 1971 version has got to be one of the most over-rated films out there, and Gene Wilder gets Willy Wonka all wrong.

I accept that I always seem to be in a minority of one on this subject, but I'm looking forward to Tim Burton's film hopefully having something of the 'feel' of the book - that old version just doesn't have it at all, and how can you enjoy watching that horrifically blonde and cheesy American kid who plays Charlie???

(Runs for cover...!)

Originally posted by spinny
I would have love to see how charlie got on since he got the factory when he won it.

Do you know the book 'Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator'? That covers the period immediately after the original story, though having read it to my little boy very recently, it's not half as good as the first book. It's a bit too obviously angled at the sizeable American audience that had clearly emerged after the first book came out.

Originally posted by Damon
I'm hoping the new film is nothing like the old one - that 1971 version has got to be one of the most over-rated films out there, and Gene Wilder gets Willy Wonka all wrong.

I accept that I always seem to be in a minority of one on this subject, but I'm looking forward to Tim Burton's film hopefully having something of the 'feel' of the book - that old version just doesn't have it at all, and how can you enjoy watching that horrifically blonde and cheesy American kid who plays Charlie???

(Runs for cover...!) I don't have a problem with his accent just like i don't have a problem with Hugh Laurie's in the brilliant tv series HOUSE

The kid is preferable to the dwarves. Anything is preferable to the dwarves. The film is full of dwarves.

Originally posted by Jon
I don't have a problem with his accent just like i don't have a problem with Hugh Laurie's in the brilliant tv series HOUSE

It isn't his accent that irks me so much as his actual face.

Harsh but fair, I feel.

Originally posted by timo
The kid is preferable to the dwarves. Anything is preferable to the dwarves. The film is full of dwarves.

There's nothing wrong with Dwarves.. They can't exactly HELP being vertically challenged you know :loopy:

Originally posted by Jon
I have seen Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory on television many times but something caught my eye what i haven't seen before.

When they go into the tunnel on the Wonka Boat on the river of chocolate (mmmmm chocolate) and the boat gets faster and faster you can see a chicken having its head chopped of with a knife has anyone else see this?

Yeah I saw that! Well bad. Im sure they were all on drugs or something filming it. The whole film is just bonkers!

Originally posted by absynthfairy
I can't believe you are discussing this film and nobody has mentioned the oompa loompas yet!

I didn't sleep for about 3 years - my mom had to sit on my "dusty bin" bin holding my hand. They were the SCARIEST thing i EVER encountered in my childhood.

Them and the wheelers in Return to Oz.

Return to Oz - thats a whole other thread.


Dorothy Gaaaaaale. Nah forget the Ooopma Loompas. MOMBI was the scariest thing I encountered in my childhood.

the 'Child Catcher' in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang was pretty scary!

Originally posted by Bedhead
the 'Child Catcher' in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang was pretty scary!

Davros was the scariest thing on TV.

Not as bad as dwarves...

Imagine if they'd invented 'Dwarvros' then. How terrifying would he have been?

Originally posted by timo
I cannot watch the film because of the dwarves. Are they known as 'Oompah Lumpahs' or something equally ludicrous? At any rate, I cannot abide dwarves. Don't Look Now and Snow White are off limits too, for obvious reasons. Who really likes dwarves? Nobody. That's who, nobody. To hell with dwarves. Who needs them?

Wanna hear a dwarf story, timo? :heyhey: Ok. When my son was about 5 yrs. old., he had just started school. Things were fine for a few weeks, then he started coming home and telling his father and I that he didn't like school and didn't want to go anymore.

We were mystified, and figured maybe a bigger child was picking on him. We ask him about it, and he says no, the bigger kids aren't bothering him. This continues, so I go to school, and have a talk with his teacher, and she looks surprised, and says she doesn't know what the problem could be, he gets along well with the other kids at school, and anyway, the youngest students are kept separate from the older ones.

Now were really stumped, but don't know what to do about it. The mystery is solved when the poor kid actually starts having nightmares. He tells me that there is a "little man" who comes to work with the kids in his classroom. Huh? "Little man?" What on earth could he mean?!

It seems that here in politically correct California, a dwarf applied for a job working with the kids in his school. Since he was qualified, the school was obliged to hire him. Now, someone else pointed out that dwarves can't help it if they are short, and that's certainly true.

But, could this guy have picked a worse line of work?! A place of employment where it was virtually GUARANTEED that people would freak out over his physical appearance?!! I had another talk with his teacher and told her that you know, no offense, BUT,the classroom aide was scaring the sh*t out of my kid, to the point where he had bad dreams, and could we put my son in someone else's group? She agreed, and the nightmares stopped

In all fairness, I did get to know the man in question, and he turned out to be a lovely person. His wife and entire family were dwarves!

:) Sierra

Roald Dahl couldn't stand the original film.

Was not the original score by, in part, Anthony Newley. Did it not spawn the tune, 'The Candy Man' that became a number one US Hit for Sammy Davis Jnr.

And we all know what the candy man supplied........................

Originally posted by Sidla
Roald Dahl couldn't stand the original film.

Okay, I'm in a minority of two then. Me and Roald against the lot of you!

Sierra,
Thanks, that was a great story which made me giggle. His entire family were dwarves?! Ho Ho, or should I say Hi Ho?
I have nothing against dwarves really, and I saw one with a club foot the other day that I rather warmed to. Were it not for the turn of the genetic dice, I might too have been a club-footed dwarf.

Originally posted by Sidla
Roald Dahl couldn't stand the original film.

its because its nothing like the book i expect. the book is really quite dark i think and the new film should reflect this a bit more.

i like the original because its weird and wonderful. its colourful and happy and the songs are fun to sing too !!! (yes i am still a child at heart)

The new film is really darker than the first one... the oompa loompas are not as good as the first film I didnt think.

They have got one of the original oompa loompa's and cgi'd him a hell of a lot to create a clone army of him.

Ooh yep.. Johnny Depp's wonka is a lot more evil and sarcastic than Gene Wilders version of wonka as well.. ie: When gloopy boy goes into the river... just watch Johnny Depp.

Its well good.

Originally posted by Damon
Okay, I'm in a minority of two then. Me and Roald against the lot of you!

Make that three of us. Much as I love Gene Wilder, I agree that he got it really wrong this time. I loved the book, but don't rate the film that highly, although my kids have enjoyed it.

great film hated oompa lumpas.looking forward to seeing the new version johnny depp is great loved him in edward scissor hands.he does look a little creepy in it but im sure everybody will grow to love him

As people are saying, this film is definately darker than the Gene Wilder version, it appears that the Johnny Depp wonka seems to dislike children as he seems really repulsed when the children introduce themselves to him.....

The original also had a different plot line regarding the way Charlie wins the factory, if you can recall, Mr Slugworth asked the various children to steal a neverending gobstopper, Charlie opted to hand the gobstopper back even after being told he lost the lifetimes supply of chocolate because of the Fizzy Lifting Drinks incident (which was one of the inventions left out of this film, but, I cannot recall it in the book anyways).

In addition, they have focused on the relationship that Willy Wonka had with his father (nicely played by Christopher Lee)....

I am really hoping that they do make the sequel "Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator" I am looking forward to seeing Vermicious Knids and how they manage to pull off the Granparents de-evolving into children, lol.

Originally posted by Rich
There's nothing wrong with Dwarves.. They can't exactly HELP being vertically challenged you know :loopy:

:lol: