Why do you think that certain people on here persist in starting and also turning threads into racist arguments?

Should any threads that start or turn into argument on race be deleted immediately?

What do you think?

I don't think threads should be deleted.

I think people should be allowed to give themselves enough rope.

The forum is regulated enough...in my opinion to much.

Leave it as it is I say.

Why do you think that certain people on here persist in starting and also turning threads into racist arguments?

Should any threads that start or turn into argument on race be deleted immediately?

What do you think?

Certain people on here cheapen the words 'rasict' and 'fascist' by using them a bit too liberaly.

Certain people on here cheapen the words 'rasict' and 'fascist' by using them a bit too liberaly.

Certain people on here cheapen the phrase 'loony left PC brigade' by using it a bit too liberally, too

Certain people on here cheapen the phrase 'loony left PC brigade' by using it a bit too liberally, too

Is 'Loony left PC brigade' a serious phrase?! :)

I am shocked by the number of overt rascists on here. But then the masses are being spoon fed racism by the likes of the Express and the Mail. Looking at their grammar and spelling confirms that the majority of racist posters are indeed as thick as a brick.

I don't know. In the minds of some it's anyone who doesn't agree with their (usually middle ages) agenda. So i'd say it's fairly significant at least

I am shocked by the number of overt rascists on here. But then the masses are being spoon fed racism by the likes of the Express and the Mail. Looking at their grammar and spelling confirms that the majority of racist posters are indeed as thick as a brick.

I hate racism, but the trouble is, its definition is far too broad; i get called a racist because im less than enthusiastic about large scale immigration!

I reckon if they werent deleted and the pc brigade didnt jump on them all so quick then they probably woudnt bother. I also reckon that half the trolls are regular posters having a mess around

I am shocked by the number of overt rascists on here. But then the masses are being spoon fed racism by the likes of the Express and the Mail. Looking at their grammar and spelling confirms that the majority of racist posters are indeed as thick as a brick.

There are less now than there used to be.

I hate racism, but the trouble is, its definition is far too broad; i get called a racist because im less than enthusiastic about large scale immigration!

I wouldn't call you racist for that reason alone, not at all. Who has?

What happened to the good old fashioned phrases like brother, friend, chum, mate, cocker, love and so forth.
Some people get offended these days if you call them any of the above, not that I can understand someone getting insulted at being called love.
Have they really been replaced by words like racist, fascist, loony left pc brigade, and that is just the polite stuff, you folk sound like a bunch of fun.

Certain people on here cheapen the words 'rasict' and 'fascist' by using them a bit too liberaly.

Some people here use those words to punctuate their threads it would seem some days.

I for one do not think there are openly racist people here.

There is no such animal as racism. It is a complete myth started by minority groups who wish to use it as a lever to secure more power for their own.

There is no such animal as racism. It is a complete myth started by minority groups who wish to use it as a lever to secure more power for their own.

BLUFF - do I win?

There is no such animal as racism. It is a complete myth started by minority groups who wish to use it as a lever to secure more power for their own.

Uh, really?

Presumably, you don't really think this, but have ventured forth from under your dark bridge to voice this view?

I know there's far too much censorship on here.

Uh, really?

Presumably, you don't really think this, but have ventured forth from under your dark bridge to voice this view?

The only bridge that I have is on my nose and I certainly do not live up my nostril. But it is possible that at some stage you will get up my nose.

I for one do not think there are openly racist people here.

cos they DO NOT stand up for what they believe in, they are ashamed

The only bridge that I have is on my nose and I certainly do not live up my nostril. But it is possible that at some stage you will get up my nose.

Haha. So you really don't understand that 'racism' means 'the prejudice that members of one race are intrinsically superior to members of other races'?

It's no more a 'myth' than any other 'ism' eg sexism, creationism, unilateralism or nihilism.

It's just a description of a doctrine, or a belief that some hold to be true.

To say it's a myth is just plain wrong. :huh:

There is no such animal as racism. It is a complete myth started by minority groups who wish to use it as a lever to secure more power for their own.

How do you describe someone that drives a girl to the point of attempting suicide by calling her names like "wog", "coon", "******", "gorilla" and "golliwog", then?

I am quite happy to use the word racist in this context, it seems like the right word. Why would you disagree?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/6061384/Schoolgirl-victim-of-racist-bullying-says-tormentors-sentence-is-pants.html

Haha. So you really don't understand that 'racism' means 'the prejudice that members of one race are intrinsically superior to members of other races'?

It's no more a 'myth' than any other 'ism' eg sexism, creationism, unilateralism or nihilism.

It's just a description of a doctrine, or a belief that some hold to be true.

To say it's a myth is just plain wrong. :huh:

OK....so you can paste stuff from google.....doesnt impress me at all.

OK....so you can paste stuff from google.....doesnt impress me at all.

It wasn't intended to impress; rather, to educate you.

How do you describe someone that drives a girl to the point of attempting suicide by calling her names like "wog", "coon", "******", "gorilla" and "golliwog", then?

I am quite happy to use the word racist in this context, it seems like the right word. Why would you disagree?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/6061384/Schoolgirl-victim-of-racist-bullying-says-tormentors-sentence-is-pants.html
You want racist?
These charlies are the most racist people anyones ever likely to come across.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td9Ur41d_q8&feature=channel_page

It wasn't intended to impress; rather, to educate you.

Wasting your time pal, you can't educate *%$t

I think any subject whether it be race, religion or whatever should be discussed but without rancour or personal insults becoming part of it

Why do you think that certain people on here persist in starting and also turning threads into racist arguments?

Should any threads that start or turn into argument on race be deleted immediately?

What do you think?

I think people who seek to have comments deleted or censored because it doesn't suit their personal agenda should be banned :rolleyes:

Certain people on here cheapen the phrase 'loony left PC brigade' by using it a bit too liberally, too

Hmmm ... no-one has called me a member of the loony left PC (also add bearded, sandal wearing, lentil eating, tree hugging, Guardian reading) brigade for ages now. :roll:

I'm all in favour of discussions on immigration, capital punishment, torturing child murderers, the existence of god, or whatever, but when folk start spouting racial abuse, I've no qualms whatsover in condemning out-dated stereotyping in the strongest of terms. And, as an apparently bearded, sandal wearing, lentil eating, tree hugging, Guardian reading former member of the loony left PC brigade, I'm quite content to call any such racist exactly that!

You want racist?
These charlies are the most racist people anyones ever likely to come across.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td9Ur41d_q8&feature=channel_page

Uh, sorry to be pedantic, but you're posting about the followers of a religion, not a race. There are followers of all races who believe in Islam, not to mention Christianity and doubtless all religions.

It's a completely separate argument!

Uh, sorry to be pedantic, but you're posting about the followers of a religion, not a race. There are followers of all races who believe in Islam, not to mention Christianity and doubtless all religions.

It's a completely separate argument!

Fair point but i was saying that this religion (islam) discriminates against everyone else so they are the racist ones.

It wasn't intended to impress; rather, to educate you.

I hardly think that you would ever be qualified enough to do that.

My parents were racist. There were two asian children and two mixed race siblings at my school back in the 70s. I'm not quite sure how I became so anti-racist given my upbringing. I may choose to dislike people for all sorts of reasons but I hope it's not because of any petty assumptions about the colour of their skin or their 'culture'.

Fair point but i was saying that this religion (islam) discriminates against everyone else so they are the racist ones.

sigh

NO THEY DONT

the EXTREMISTS DO, but your everyday joe in the street is EXACTLY like everybody else.........living their life, looking after their family, following their religion

Fair point but i was saying that this religion (islam) discriminates against everyone else so they are the racist ones.

Even in a hypothetical situation that all Muslims are racist (:loopy:) what does that have to do with other people being racist on here?

Do you think it condones it in some way?

sigh

NO THEY DONT

the EXTREMISTS DO, but your everyday joe in the street is EXACTLY like everybody else.........living their life, looking after their family, following their religion

Thats your opinion.

I'll happily discriminate against religion.

Even in a hypothetical situation that all Muslims are racist (:loopy:) what does that have to do with other people being racist on here?

Do you think it condones it in some way?

its the old.blame somebody else trick, blame anybody but me

its the old.blame somebody else trick, blame anybody but me

Muslims are to blame for 9/11, 7/7, beheadings, rapes of unvieled westernes, the list goes on and on and on.
But you wont hear any of them take responsibility. They just go on about being oppresed and all the usual boring crap they spout.

Fair point but i was saying that this religion (islam) discriminates against everyone else so they are the racist ones.

Well you've discovered that racism isnt the exclusive domain of white people! There are racists of every shade, gender, political persuasion and religious belief..but that still dont make any of it right!

Thats your opinion.

awwwwwww and a personal attack in your quote.how sweet :)

so, an islamophobe........possibly a racist AND a nasty ****

nice person

personally i prefer decent "muslim" human beings to the likes of you :D

awwwwwww and a personal attack in your quote.how sweet :)

so, an islamophobe........possibly a racist AND a nasty ****

nice person

personally i prefer decent "muslim" human beings to the likes of you :D

The usual lines from the usual bunch. Turn it in, ive heard it all before.
I hate anyone who wants me dead for no reason other than chosing not to believe in fairies.
And it wasnt meant to be an insult, it was meant to be funny.

Thats your opinion.

Racism comes from generalising from individual examples.

You have demonstrated quite nicely the parallels between Islamaphobia and racism.

Muslims are to blame for 9/11, 7/7, beheadings, rapes of unvieled westernes, the list goes on and on and on.
But you wont hear any of them take responsibility. They just go on about being oppresed and all the usual boring crap they spout.

NO
there you go again with your ill thought out, lazy, lieing stereotypes and generalisations

SOME muslims are responsible

like SOME white, black, asian etc people are racist

NOT ALL, SOME

Muslims are to blame for 9/11, 7/7, beheadings, rapes of unvieled westernes, the list goes on and on and on.
But you wont hear any of them take responsibility. They just go on about being oppresed and all the usual boring crap they spout.

Ooo and you want to hear about oppressed? Go and read some of bangingman's contributions..poor bugger's completely under the Islamic cosh!

The usual lines from the usual bunch. Turn it in, ive heard it all before.
I hate anyone who wants me dead for no reason other than chosing not to believe in fairies.

And that is fair enough, except that you are also displaying hatred towards people that don't want you dead.

NO
there you go again with your ill thought out, lazy, lieing stereotypes and generalisations

SOME muslims are responsible

like SOME white, black, asian etc people are racist

NOT ALL, SOME

I never sdaid all. I said most.
At least get it right before you go all high and mighty.

The usual lines from the usual bunch. Turn it in, ive heard it all before.
I hate anyone who wants me dead for no reason other than chosing not to believe in fairies.
And it wasnt meant to be an insult, it was meant to be funny.

just face your NOT a nice person..................i like, get on with and respect decent people

believe it or not, i actually got on with roy james lol

And that is fair enough, except that you are also displaying hatred towards people that don't want you dead.

Maybe so and that im a little unhappy about. But when no one in this religion does anything really possitive to stop these extremeists then i cant be blamed for bunching them all up.

I never sdaid all. I said most.
At least get it right before you go all high and mighty.

backtracking?

as you said "muslims are"

which to me sounds like "i think muslims are"

which could be construed as ALL muslims are

just face your NOT a nice person..................i like, get on with and respect decent people

believe it or not, i actually got on with roy james lol

Ahhhhh the bnp nutter.
Hes an idiot and so are the bnp. This has nothing to do with skin colour just that cult.
And you dont know me. I happen to be a decent person. Ask the young lady who was wanting help with the headstone ;)

how did i know id find the same old lefties on this thread attacking anyone who dos`nt buy into their Guardian reading agenda :roll:

Maybe so and that im a little unhappy about. But when no one in this religion does anything really possitive to stop these extremeists then i cant be blamed for bunching them all up.

Yes you can..............unless you're just looking for an excuse?

backtracking?

as you said "muslims are"

which to me sounds like "i think muslims are"

which could be construed as ALL muslims are

Sounds to you, not me.

Yes you can..............unless you're just looking for an excuse?

No im not.

Maybe so and that im a little unhappy about. But when no one in this religion does anything really possitive to stop these extremeists then i cant be blamed for bunching them all up.

why should they?

do you stop ALL white people from being racist?
should chavs stop ALL chavs from drinking cider...before they can become decent chavs?

how did i know id find the same old lefties on this thread attacking anyone who dos`nt buy into their Guardian reading agenda :roll:

Perhaps you read it somewhere?

Maybe so and that im a little unhappy about. But when no one in this religion does anything really possitive to stop these extremeists then i cant be blamed for bunching them all up.

You mean people like this aren't doing anything?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7jAT0FAGBc

Incidentally what do you do about racism that gives you the right to criticise? Are you active in campaigning against racism in some form or other?

how did i know id find the same old lefties on this thread attacking anyone who dos`nt buy into their Guardian reading agenda :roll:

could say the same about you :)

looks like we have the same interests (threads)

why should they?



Because they should. They are looking like they approve.

Anyone who believes that some guy in the sky is their ticket to eternal life is a bit suspect to me. Anyone who defines themselves by their belief is also open to challenge. However there are indeed radicals in every faith, including christianity.

Because they should. They are looking like they approve.

like i said why should they?
just to please YOU?

are you special?

You mean people like this aren't doing anything?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7jAT0FAGBc

Incidentally what do you do about racism that gives you the right to criticise? Are you active in campaigning against racism in some form or other?

Yes i am. Im constantly educating my children about how racism is wrong, even though they suffer it every day at school.
This isnt about race, its about religion.

Anyone who believes that some guy in the sky is their ticket to eternal life is a bit suspect to me. Anyone who defines themselves by their belief is also open to challenge. However there are indeed radicals in every faith, including christianity.

indeed..............i HATE all religions, i am anti religious

BUT

i hate racists..............and it seems islamophobes (against people who have done nothing wrong at all)

I hardly think that you would ever be qualified enough to do that.

Oh hey, I hold no 'qualification' at all in pointing out the obvious!

However, anyone who stands by the following statement:

There is no such animal as racism. It is a complete myth started by minority groups who wish to use it as a lever to secure more power for their own.

and says (by implication) that they're not trolling but seriously believes it is easy prey to anyone who understands semantics!

like i said why should they?
just to please YOU?

are you special?

Yes i am special. Im very special to my kids and im sure they dont want me to be killed in a suicide attack on my way to work.
All done in the name of a man in the sky.

Yes i am special. Im very special to my kids and im sure they dont want me to be killed in a suicide attack on my way to work.
All done in the name of a man in the sky.

You're more likely to be killed by a man falling out of the sky.

this thread feels like ive stumbled across a Do Gooders meeting down at the uni .
its a Lefties love in ,all patting each other on the back ,saying how much better than everyone else you are because you are diverse and inclusive .

You're more likely to be killed by a man falling out of the sky.

Are the terrorists using landmines now?

You're more likely to be killed by a man falling out of the sky.

It's hard to change peoples' beliefs. If they are wrong on one thing then what else might they be wrong on? It's a tad scary. Whole assumptive worlds can fall apart. I have seen it happen. Better to hang on to the irrational belief at all costs rather than move on and grow.

Yes i am. Im constantly educating my children about how racism is wrong, even though they suffer it every day at school.
This isnt about race, its about religion.

The thread is called racist threads.... I took that to mean this discussion was about racism.

When you teach your children about racism do you teach them about the dangers of stereotyping?

this thread feels like ive stumbled across a Do Gooders meeting down at the uni .
its a Lefties love in ,all patting each other on the back ,saying how much better than everyone else you are because you are diverse and inclusive .

So anyone diverse and inclusive is a 'Do Gooder'?

What's the opposite? Anyone non-diverse (whatever the heck that is) and non-inclusive is a Do Badder?

In that case, my feet are firmly in the Do Gooder camp! What's the altnerative? Do tell!

The thread is called racist threads.... I took that to mean this discussion was about racism.

When you teach your children about racism do you teach them about the dangers of stereotyping?

Yes i do. I tell them how muslims stereotype westerners as being lower forms of life than even a pig. I tell them not to blame them, its not thier fault. Its their religion.

Yes i do. I tell them how muslims stereotype westerners as being lower forms of life than even a pig. I tell them not to blame them, its not thier fault. Its their religion.

That's such an awful thing to teach your children. Do they actually KNOW any Muslim kids?

Are the terrorists using landmines now?

I think they are still using bombs in the UK.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1198003/Far-Right-extremists-plotting-spectacular-terrorist-attack-UK-police-warn.html

this thread feels like ive stumbled across a Do Gooders meeting down at the uni .
its a Lefties love in ,all patting each other on the back ,saying how much better than everyone else you are because you are diverse and inclusive .

Aww you feel excluded Mr B? Why didnt you say so? This is a wide and diverse 'club', yr welcome to join, but leave the bitterness at the door, it'll be a huge weight lifted from your shoulders and help with all the backpatting

Yes i do. I tell them how muslims stereotype westerners as being lower forms of life than even a pig. I tell them not to blame them, its not thier fault. Its their religion.

What on earth gave you the idea that is what muslims believe?

I think they are still using bombs in the UK.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1198003/Far-Right-extremists-plotting-spectacular-terrorist-attack-UK-police-warn.html

Commander Shaun Sawyer, from the Met's specialist operations wing told a meeting of British Muslims last night: 'I fear that they will have a spectacular
Hmmmmmmmmmm

What on earth gave you the idea that is what muslims believe?

They are told it at school every day.

A close family member is out in Afganistan. And he and his mates have to deal with the Taliban using 9 year old kids (and animals) approaching them with explosives strapped around them.

The British soldiers ('our brave lads') are told to shoot once the 'invader' reaches a certain point, as the alternative is to be blown up themselves.

Don't talk to me about religion and race. It's all about extremists. And all religions have them.

They are told it at school every day.

I thought you said it was you telling them?

fan girl you wasting your time just mention the muslim word on here and you will be shot down in flames as i gathered you allready know that :hihi: from now on you will be classed as racists just because you wanted to speak out but hey who cares jus dont let the b****** grind you down :thumbsup:

Hmmmmmmmmmm

Deliberately misquoting is not particularly impressive.

They are told it at school every day.

Which school?

I thought you said it was you telling them?

I try to make sense of the horrible things they are told for them. I explain why these people do this and try to help them understand so it hurts them less.
Is that ok with you?

Which school?

Im not saying.

Im not saying.

I get it, it's a secrete? Only know by you perhaps?

I get it, it's a secrete? Only know by you perhaps?

If you want to call me a liar then do it:rolleyes:
Im not saying as its highly possible some of the 'parents' post on here. I dont want to run the risk of them working out who i am and making my kids lives even more painful.

Im not saying.

No, somehow I thought you wouldn't.

Because a) you're telling the truth, in which case there is a very interesting conversation to be had with the Head of the school (which I will gladly have, tomorrow) or

b) you're not telling the truth.

PS, if you'd like to PM me with the school's name, I absolutely PROMISE that I will never disclose that the information came from you.

I try to make sense of the horrible things they are told for them. I explain why these people do this and try to help them understand so it hurts them less.
Is that ok with you?

I am not ok about racism in schools. It should be challenged where ever it is found. Pretending it isn't there and hiding from it won't make it go away.

Perhaps you should teach your children about all the good that is in Islam so they can counter the accusations? I am sure if you approach a mosque they will be able to help you.

There are mosques in Afghanistan where children are indoctrinated from a very young age to hate the west. I have seen evidence of this. When children are taken and subjected to such misinformation at an early age it is very difficult to remove the hate. Same happens in Iraq and Iran.
Hitler (another dictator) did a similar thing with Hitler youth.

No, somehow I thought you wouldn't.

Because a) you're telling the truth, in which case there is a very interesting conversation to be had with the Head of the school (which I will gladly have, tomorrow) or

b) you're not telling the truth.

PS, if you'd like to PM me with the school's name, I absolutely PROMISE that I will never disclose that the information came from you.

Thanks for the kind offer but i really dont want to rock the boat. The head wont or cant deal with the sheer number of people involved. Im trying to move them to another school so i wouldnt want to be known as a trouble causer with my reputation preceding me.

If you want to call me a liar then do it:rolleyes:
Im not saying as its highly possible some of the 'parents' post on here. I dont want to run the risk of them working out who i am and making my kids lives even more painful.

A very convenient excuse to spread unsubstantiated rumours.

I am not ok about racism in schools. It should be challenged where ever it is found. Pretending it isn't there and hiding from it won't make it go away.

Perhaps you should teach your children about all the good that is in Islam so they can counter the accusations? I am sure if you approach a mosque they will be able to help you.

I dont want to approach a mosque. Look, muslims are conditioned from birth to think the way they do. They think they are superior to all others, they cant help it because its so ingrained into the. My kids and i have been conditioned over the years to feel the way WE do, its thier actions that have made us feel this way.

There are mosques in Afghanistan where children are indoctrinated from a very young age to hate the west. I have seen evidence of this. When children are taken and subjected to such misinformation at an early age it is very difficult to remove the hate. Same happens in Iraq and Iran.
Hitler (another dictator) did a similar thing with Hitler youth.

Rather like the more local attempt with Billy Britt?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q31H_6dhvYk

A very convenient excuse to spread unsubstantiated rumours.

Somehow i knew you were going to say that.
Its your opinion, your entitled to it.

Im not saying.

Why? You have made an allegation, and a very serious one at that. In fact, it's one which breaks the law. Are you going to report this to the authorities?

Somehow i knew you were going to say that.
Its your opinion, your entitled to it.

Just like you comment was only your opinion, unless you can substantiate it.

This all stems from a video thread that fangirl made available. It was a good video thread with truthful images on it.

Thanks for the kind offer but i really dont want to rock the boat. The head wont or cant deal with the sheer number of people involved. Im trying to move them to another school so i wouldnt want to be known as a trouble causer with my reputation preceding me.

Ok, I understand that you have genuine reasons for not trusting me. However, you can make an anonymous phone call to loads of places. Your MP, the Education Department of Sheffield City Council, your local Councillor.

Even, the school! And, by 'anonymous' - all you'd have to say is that you're a parent of a child at the school and that you're unhappy with x, y and z.

There's a famous quote from someone to the effect that, to be silent is to condone.

As individuals, we have a responsibility to take care of what's happening!

Why? You have made an allegation, and a very serious one at that. In fact, it's one which breaks the law. Are you going to report this to the authorities?

No im not. You can all call me what you like (liar, racist, whatever) but ill deal with it the way i thinks best. Comebacks are the LAST thing my kids and i need.

I dont want to approach a mosque. Look, muslims are conditioned from birth to think the way they do. They think they are superior to all others, they cant help it because its so ingrained into the. My kids and i have been conditioned over the years to feel the way WE do, its thier actions that have made us feel this way.

That is totally untrue in my experience.

I went to school with muslims, I work with muslims. Some have been idiots but the vast majority like any group in society have been decent people.

Just like you comment was only your opinion, unless you can substantiate it.

I can substantiate it very well thanks.
I just dont need to sunstantiate it to you.

That is totally untrue in my experience.

I went to school with muslims, I work with muslims. Some have been idiots but the vast majority like any group in society have been decent people.

If i was religious id swear on a stack of bibles every word is true. But im not so i cant but the fact remains every word is true.

No im not. You can all call me what you like (liar, racist, whatever) but ill deal with it the way i thinks best. Comebacks are the LAST thing my kids and i need.

Burrying your head in the sand, and not explaining to your children that the muslim bullies at their school are not typical, won't help either.

Do as SHSheff suggests and raise it with your MP or Councillor.

I dont want to approach a mosque. Look, muslims are conditioned from birth to think the way they do. They think they are superior to all others, they cant help it because its so ingrained into the. My kids and i have been conditioned over the years to feel the way WE do, its thier actions that have made us feel this way.

Do you live in a predominately Muslim area, by any chance?

I'm guessing that you do, because if you happened to live in a predominately Christian area, you'd find that just the same thing happens!

It's called religion....a Muslim family living in a 'Christian' area probably feels just the same as you do. :)

If i was religious id swear on a stack of bibles every word is true. But im not so i cant but the fact remains every word is true.

You can swear on whatever you like but you can only be speaking the truth about your experiences not the generalisations you have made based on those experiences.

I can substantiate it very well thanks.
I just dont need to sunstantiate it to you.

If I knew something like you alleged was happening I would be straight on to the authorities demanding action, not to do so would be condoning the alleged idiotic nutters, as SHseff said.

Many English born parents whose children are born in the wrong area feel that their children are being held back because of the multilinguistic and multiculturality in their local schools.....they believe this to be true, because it is true.

Burrying your head in the sand, and not explaining to your children that the muslim bullies at their school are not typical, won't help either.

Do as SHSheff suggests and raise it with your MP or Councillor.

Im not burrying my head in the sand. Im accepting defeat and moving schools and leaving my home, family, everything.

If I knew something like you alleged was happening I would be straight on to the authorities demanding action, not to do so would be condoning the alleged idiotic nutters, as SHseff said.

Well now you know somthing like this is happening, its happening to us.

No im not. You can all call me what you like (liar, racist, whatever) but ill deal with it the way i thinks best. Comebacks are the LAST thing my kids and i need.

So you won't report a school which you have stated in a public area has been teaching misinformation?

You do know that what you report has been taught is against the law, don't you? Do you want your children to be taught by people who deliberately break the law? I'm assuming what you report is true, by the way. I'm just very curious as to why you won't report it, especially as there wouldn't be any 'comebacks'.

I'll do it if you like, and I can assure you that so long as you can show me evidence of what you report, your name would never be brought into it. Let's face it, I don't know who you are from Adam or Eve as it is.

So you won't report a school which you have stated in a public area has been teaching misinformation?


This is a private forum.

Im not burrying my head in the sand. Im accepting defeat and moving schools and leaving my home, family, everything.

Why? If you know it's wrong, then do something.

Interesting comments....did you know that under English law only white British can be charged under the race relations act.

So you won't report a school which you have stated in a public area has been teaching misinformation?

You do know that what you report has been taught is against the law, don't you? Do you want your children to be taught by people who deliberately break the law? I'm assuming what you report is true, by the way. I'm just very curious as to why you won't report it, especially as there wouldn't be any 'comebacks'.



Ive had it made clear in the clearest terms posasible what the comebacks will be. I didnt like the sound of them.

This is a private forum.

Which is viewable by the public at large. You do not have to be a member to read what is posted.

Islam is a backward religion that represses women and children.

Burrying your head in the sand, and not explaining to your children that the muslim bullies at their school are not typical, won't help either.



sweeping statement that is . Do you have any evidence to support that ?

Which is viewable by the public at large. You do not have to be a member to read what is posted.

I forgot that, my appologies.
The other fora i frequent are all privatre where you cant see the content before you register. And before anyone says owt its not bnp, porno or anything else dubious.

Well now you know somthing like this is happening, its happening to us.

I am going to need more evidence than the word of someone who contracts themselves in a couple of posts, and someone who post rubbish racist propaganda videos from youtube. Your allegations do seem to match your own political agenda I'm afraid.

Watch out Fangirl the natives are revolting.

I am going to need more evidence than the word of someone who contracts themselves in a couple of posts, and someone who post rubbish racist propaganda videos from youtube. Your allegations do seem to match your own political agenda I'm afraid.

Then youve read only what you want to read and ignored the facts.

Then youve read only what you want to read and ignored the facts.

Where are the facts?

I am going to need more evidence than the word of someone who contracts themselves in a couple of posts, and someone who post rubbish racist propaganda videos from youtube. Your allegations do seem to match your own political agenda I'm afraid.

The u tube images were real. Learn to accept reality.

Where are the facts?

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

This is a private forum.

That's semantics; this is a public forum in so far as it's searchable via public search engines eg Google, and is also accessible to the public.

You don't know me, but I can assure you that anything that you say to me via PM would be totally in confidence.

You can also contact your local Councillor in confidence, or your MP, also many members of the local Council.

Have you tried talking to the Head of your school? I speak from personal experience, and I have found that the senior staff at school to be nothing but supportive.

I appreciate that you have experienced religious bias at the school that your children attend. This is something that should be flagged up. Do you think that the Head condons it? Or just one (or more) member of staff?

Is a Muslim husband in Afghanistan allowed to starve his wife to death if she refuses to have sex with him?

The u tube images were real. Learn to accept reality.

The images do not reflect upon the nearly 1 billion Muslims on this planet. There is no "evidence" to confirm this warped point of view.

Yes i do. I tell them how muslims stereotype westerners as being lower forms of life than even a pig. I tell them not to blame them, its not thier fault. Its their religion.


So much for wisdom. You are dangerous, as much so as the hatred you preach against.

Very mall sections of Western and Muslim society preach such hatred..there's no dividing line between you both.

God help your kids.

Is a Muslim husband in Afghanistan allowed to starve his wife to death if she refuses to have sex with him?

Well of course he is, but it is racist to say so!

So much for wisdom. You are dangerous, as much so as the hatred you preach against.

Very mall sections of Western and Muslim society preach such hatred..there's no dividing line between you both.

God help your kids.

Nice rant.
A load of crap mind but nice rant all the same.

the images do not reflect upon the nearly 1 billion muslims on this planet. There is no "evidence" to confirm this warped point of view.

do you accept that the images are real?

Is a Muslim husband in Afghanistan allowed to starve his wife to death if she refuses to have sex with him?

And this is relevant to Fangirl's allegations reference to the school her kids attend because....................??????

Interesting comments....did you know that under English law only white British can be charged under the race relations act.

Completely untrue.

Well of course he is, but it is racist to say so!

It's not 'racist', you twerp, because followers of Islam aren't determined by race!!

Please, do learn the difference between people who follow a particular religion, and people determined by race.

And this is relevant to Fangirl's allegations reference to the school her kids attend because....................??????

It plainly isn't - unlesss you're delibrately misrepresenting the truth.

do you accept that the images are real?

Where have I said otherwise? I just think that it is vile and disgraceful that some people would try to use the pain and suffering on that youtube link to promote their own agenda.

It's not 'racist', you twerp, because followers of Islam aren't determined by race!!

Please, do learn the difference between people who follow a particular religion, and people determined by race.

Please learn the difference between right and wrong and learn to apply that difference irrespective of race or religion cretin. Do not expect special favours for playing the racist card. That will not be accepted in the new England.

I forgot that, my appologies.
The other fora i frequent are all privatre where you cant see the content before you register. And before anyone says owt its not bnp, porno or anything else dubious.

No worries. Some are like you say; this one isn't! No need to apologise.

Please learn the difference between right and wrong and learn to apply that difference irrespective of race. Do not expect special favours for playing the racist card. That will not be accepted in the new England.

Ooh, so many points to address! Firstly, what the heck is the 'new England?' Is that in any way related to the 'new order'?!

Secondly, what IS the difference 'between right and wrong' and in what way should I 'learn to apply that difference irrespective of race'?

Thirdly, (do you have your socks off yet?) what do you mean by, 'Do not expect special favours for playing the racist card'?

I have some WD40 under my kitchen sink if you need a little lubrication to your robotic responses, by the way :)

Nice rant.
A load of crap mind but nice rant all the same.

Not really..I just like children. Pity that some (on either side of the camp) are taught such hatred as you preach at such an early age...no wonder certain sections of society can't move forward. As I said..your dangerous, but more dangerous than that is, you don't realize it.

Where have I said otherwise? I just think that it is vile and disgraceful that some people would try to use the pain and suffering on that youtube link to promote their own agenda.

It is merely a factual depiction. How can it be wrong to show what you now accept to be the truth?

Ooh, so many points to address! Firstly, what the heck is the 'new England?' Is that in any way related to the 'new order'?!

Secondly, what IS the difference 'between right and wrong' and in what way should I 'learn to apply that difference irrespective of race'?

Thirdly, (do you have your socks off yet?) what do you mean by, 'Do not expect special favours for playing the racist card'?

I have some WD40 under my kitchen sink if you need a little lubrication to your robotic responses, by the way :)

Hey....I gotta hand it to you. You are an idiot.

sweeping statement that is . Do you have any evidence to support that ?

How about the findings of the largest global survey of what muslims want?

The result is Who Speaks for Islam? What a Billion Muslims Really Think, based on six years of research and more than 50,000 interviews representing 1.3 billion Muslims who reside in more than 35 nations that are predominantly Muslim or have sizable Muslim populations. Representing more than 90% of the world's Muslim community, it makes this poll the largest, most comprehensive study of its kind.

What the data reveal and the authors illuminate may surprise you:

* Muslims and Americans are equally likely to reject attacks on civilians as morally unjustifiable.
* Large majorities of Muslims would guarantee free speech if it were up to them to write a new constitution AND they say religious leaders should have no direct role in drafting that constitution.
* Muslims around the world say that what they LEAST admire about the West is its perceived moral decay and breakdown of traditional values -- the same answers that Americans themselves give when asked this question.
* When asked about their dreams for the future, Muslims say they want better jobs and security, not conflict and violence.
* Muslims say the most important thing Westerners can do to improve relations with their societies is to change their negative views toward Muslims and respect Islam.

The research suggests that conflict between Muslims and the West is NOT inevitable and, in fact, is more about policy than principles. "However," caution Esposito and Mogahed, "until and unless decision makers listen directly to the people and gain an accurate understanding of this conflict, extremists on all sides will continue to gain ground."

http://www.gallup.com/press/104206/WHO-SPEAKS-ISLAM.aspx

It is merely a factual depiction. How can it be wrong to show what you now accept to be the truth?

The factual depiction is that there are some very sick deeds carried out on the video. Any attempt at wider conclusions is pure conjecture.

It is merely a factual depiction. How can it be wrong to show what you now accept to be the truth?

The video? Elements are reportage. It includes muslim extremists protesting and includes clearly inflammatory racist cartoons.

The video is an indictment of extremism and intolerance, both in Islam and in its critics.

For years the government has done everything in its power to keep the lid on the problems it faces with race relations.
They knew years ago with Enoch Powell's Rivers of Blood speech that one day the British silent majority would turn the whole situation on its head.
In short the powers that be had to suppress and censor the real truth about what was happening on the streets of Britain.
In time we saw the Bradford riots and still the government did nothing ...... every item of news was played down.
Of late, reports that members of Parliament who are by definition Muslim and wish to turn the UK into a Muslim state again are brushed off with disdain.
Now the revolt has started with masses of voters turning to the BNP.
This is the only organisation that terrifies the three main parties and they will try every underhand trick to stop this party gaining seats.
The problem of course is the fact that the BNP have risen in prominence due to the very actions of successive governments.
They have pampered to the whims and will of Islam...they have allowed it to nurture at the expense of the British people.
This government is far too afraid to tackle Islam and it displays this at every conflict.
This country and its people have nothing to fear from the Jewish people, the Greeks. the Irish, the Chinese...... the Indian races .... all these races live in harmony under English law and statute....but not Islam....no Islam wants its own laws separate to UK law.....why should it be allowed to do this.
This and any future government ignores the genuine will of the British people at its peril and if it continues to do and not bare its teeth in coming down hard on Islam then it will be allowing the likes of the BNP to sweep into power....and dont believe it will not or cannot happen. Europe thought this about Germany in 1933.
The silent majority in this country will deal the three main parties such a body blow it will not only change this country radically ...it will take years for us to recover.
The BNP must never ever be given that golden opportunity to hold the balance of power but unless the British Government stamps its foot of authority upon the mischief makers within Islam in this country then I think that a BNP or something very similar will gain control.

This forum is indicitave of the whole of England. There is an undeniable undercurrent of hostility, a cauldron that is ready to boil over, a balloon that is about to burst, a volcanoe that is about to errupt. I feel it strongly. Lets roll!

Well of course he is, but it is racist to say so!

Why are you accusing yourself of racism?