anyone see his facebook profile yesterday, saying that the fans didn't get behind the team when they needed it in the last 20 mins on Saturday

what's everyone think about this? anyone agree??

I think its a little bit harsh as the support was pretty good on Saturday, my question would be should it not be the ones on the pitch who your paying who should have stood up and been countedb rather than rolling over!?!

In one sense I think its good that the chairman is contactable and that he will answer what ever questions he can, but on the other foot I think it could come back and bite him on the bum!!!

anyone see his facebook profile yesterday, saying that the fans didn't get behind the team when they needed it in the last 20 mins on Saturday

what's everyone think about this? anyone agree??

I think its a little bit harsh as the support was pretty good on Saturday, my question would be should it not be the ones on the pitch who your paying who should have stood up and been countedb rather than rolling over!?!

In one sense I think its good that the chairman is contactable and that he will answer what ever questions he can, but on the other foot I think it could come back and bite him on the bum!!!

Send him a message from me mate, ask him if he remembers away at Qpr a few week's ago.
He got some stick when he was sat with all us lot.

He has a point, it went quiet where I was but I think this was disbelief at what had happened!

anyone see his facebook profile yesterday, saying that the fans didn't get behind the team when they needed it in the last 20 mins on Saturday

what's everyone think about this? anyone agree??

I think its a little bit harsh as the support was pretty good on Saturday, my question would be should it not be the ones on the pitch who your paying who should have stood up and been countedb rather than rolling over!?!

In one sense I think its good that the chairman is contactable and that he will answer what ever questions he can, but on the other foot I think it could come back and bite him on the bum!!!

couldnt agree more -he should be asking the players questions ,not the fans .

But him being contactable is a breath of fresah air after what we`ve suffered in the past .Losing a two goal lead was soul destroying ,but at least there was the bonus of chesterfield getting stuffed at Torquay . Every cloud and all that .................:D

couldnt agree more -he should be asking the players questions ,not the fans .

But him being contactable is a breath of fresah air after what we`ve suffered in the past .Losing a two goal lead was soul destroying ,but at least there was the bonus of chesterfield getting stuffed at Torquay . Every cloud and all that .................:D

i'm a bit 50/50 with the chesterfield thing as I think i'd like to Sherry do well more than allen fail

And how do you know that it is 100% him?

because he was on sky sports on friday saying he takes part in forums/facebook etc

because he was on sky sports on friday saying he takes part in forums/facebook etc

and he has family pics on his page

I read that also.

The support was good in spells on saturday, but it wasn't great when they equalised.

When is the result for the band vote going to be announced?

I read that also.

The support was good in spells on saturday, but it wasn't great when they equalised.

When is the result for the band vote going to be announced?

The kop hardley sung a song, its like a graveyard on there and has been for some time now.
If you didnt have us lot at the top right of the North, Hillsborough would be silent just about, and that is no exagerating either.
We sung our hearts out the other day and ive still got a sore throat from it.
Work it out the North just about sell's out every game where as the kop is half empty usually.

Fans react to the passion and performance on the pitch.

If it appears that the players can't be bothered, why should we get behind them? It's up to the manager to get them going again. Once we see someone who gives a toss (like a JJ run) then we'll get behind them.

I don't usually say a bad worst against Strafford, but first the moaning about season ticket sales, then the promise of beer on the kop that didn't happen and now this moan he seems to be letting people down.

Fans react to the passion and performance on the pitch.

If it appears that the players can't be bothered, why should we get behind them? It's up to the manager to get them going again. Once we see someone who gives a toss (like a JJ run) then we'll get behind them.

I don't usually say a bad worst against Strafford, but first the moaning about season ticket sales, then the promise of beer on the kop that didn't happen and now this moan he seems to be letting people down.

Yep im not too convinced with him either to be honest, there's a lot of false hopes being fed to the fan's

Yep im not too convinced with him either to be honest, there's a lot of false hopes being fed to the fan's

A chairman defending his players after a performance like the second half is a very bad move in my opinion. OK he may have been a little annoyed, especially if potential investors could hear negative vibes in the crowd but don't make your feelings public. It will only work against him.

because he was on sky sports on friday saying he takes part in forums/facebook etc

i thought he come across very well in that interview

i thought he come across very well in that interview

To be honest i think he's full of hot air, and silly ideas so far.
Nothings changed at Hillsborough apart from loads and loads of money making schemes which are almost desperate and embaressing.

i'm still unsure, some things have been a big improvement, others like you say just seem to be hot air

To be honest i think he's full of hot air, and silly ideas so far.
Nothings changed at Hillsborough apart from loads and loads of money making schemes which are almost desperate and embaressing.

I have to say you are the most pessimistic football fan I have ever encountered. As a Blade I'll admit he has made improvements to the club, there is a feel good factor at S6 for once, it's this kind of feeling which can drive a club forward. I'm all for realism, but it's fans like you who will hinder Wednesday's progress, more than help it.

The kop hardley sung a song, its like a graveyard on there and has been for some time now.
If you didnt have us lot at the top right of the North, Hillsborough would be silent just about, and that is no exagerating either.
We sung our hearts out the other day and ive still got a sore throat from it.
Work it out the North just about sell's out every game where as the kop is half empty usually.

Think this highlights the disjointedness of the singing fans. I couldn't hear the North due to the noise on the Kop. Strafford mentioned on facebook that the North and Kop weren't singing in unison but against each other.

Yep im not too convinced with him either to be honest, there's a lot of false hopes being fed to the fan's

Because of no beer? :hihi: :hihi:

There's been ridiculous moaning this week from a lot of fans. Ok there was a lack of beer and pies. The club have said they'll be looking into this and make sure it doesn't happen again. It was only 1 match, if it happens again, I'll understand fans points. That game a year ago, you wouldn't have had any queues or problems to get a pint because the ground would have been empty!

To be honest i think he's full of hot air, and silly ideas so far.
Nothings changed at Hillsborough apart from loads and loads of money making schemes which are almost desperate and embaressing.

You really can't see the good that has happened at Hillsborough this past few months??

no singing on the kop? Were you at a different match?

Strafford mentioned on facebook that the North and Kop weren't singing in unison but against each other.

Maybe he should get his tuxedo on and stand on a little plinth on the half way line conducting then...? :hihi:

i'm a bit 50/50 with the chesterfield thing as I think i'd like to Sherry do well more than allen fail

chesterfield will be ok,they played well and were unlucky,they are a club who are moving forward attracting investment etc,I think they will be in the shake up at the end of the season.

As for strafford,he won't be the first wednesday chairman to blame the fans.

Just shows what an idiot the man is- going on facebook and slagging off the fans- the man needs to pull back a little and get some respecability- i bet this will blow up in his face one day!

Just shows what an idiot the man is- going on facebook and slagging off the fans- the man needs to pull back a little and get some respecability- i bet this will blow up in his face one day!

What people have been saying for a while

Funny how some of the Wednesday fans are starting to turn on his OT and Facebook rants

What people have been saying for a while

Funny how some of the Wednesday fans are starting to turn on his OT and Facebook rants

Because most fans are daft and fickle. If we'd won on saturday, there would have been no moaning whatsoever - about pies, beer, strafford etc.
I don't think Strafford should have put that on facebook, but he was right.

Because most fans are daft and fickle. If we'd won on saturday, there would have been no moaning whatsoever - about pies, beer, strafford etc.
I don't think Strafford should have put that on facebook, but he was right.

So your saying strafford was right to blame the fans for the teams second half colapse.
Is there nothing wrong this man can do in your eyes alty?

So your saying strafford was right to blame the fans for the teams second half colapse.
Is there nothing wrong this man can do in your eyes alty?

I don't think he did. Just said we didn't get behind the team as much as we could have. Which we didn't. Having said that, no I don't think he should have said it. But I'm not going to jump on his back over a small thing like that. He's dramatically changed this club in a short space of time.

before people start moaning about Strafford -just remember what we had before him -enough said

I don't think he did. Just said we didn't get behind the team as much as we could have. Which we didn't. Having said that, no I don't think he should have said it. But I'm not going to jump on his back over a small thing like that. He's dramatically changed this club in a short space of time.

If your talking about the feel good factor from the fans,I wold say thats debatable,a lot of the owls I know think he's full of spin.
Any other dramatic changes I just can't see where.

If your talking about the feel good factor from the fans,I wold say thats debatable,a lot of the owls I know think he's full of spin.
Any other dramatic changes I just can't see where.

The list is endless pal, I ain't listing it, as I have done many a time on here. I don't expect you to know everything that's changed with you being a blade, but any sensible Wednesdayite will be able to see and know what's changed at Wednesday.

too right Alty, its like chalk and cheese

The list is endless pal, I ain't listing it, as I have done many a time on here. I don't expect you to know everything that's changed with you being a blade, but any sensible Wednesdayite will be able to see and know what's changed at Wednesday.

Ok mate fair enough,we don't want to be going on and on about it.
My personal gut feeling is the man just has not got the capability to raise wednesday from the ashes and the more I see teams like notts county,chesterfield etc getting investment and wednesday not getting it,the more I think the man isn't up to the task.Maybe he will prove me wrong or maybe wednesday are not marketable chose who tries to do it.

Ok mate fair enough,we don't want to be going on and on about it.
My personal gut feeling is the man just has not got the capability to raise wednesday from the ashes and the more I see teams like notts county,chesterfield etc getting investment and wednesday not getting it,the more I think the man isn't up to the task.Maybe he will prove me wrong or maybe wednesday are not marketable chose who tries to do it.

It's tough to find investment for Wednesday due to the spread of shares. The major point in showing Wednesday is a good investment and now has a sound business structure is that Inner Circle have taken us on. They don't take any old club on. People might point out that the Liverpool deal isn't good, but, correct me if I'm wrong, Inner Circle point us in the direction and market us so we can then discuss a deal with any potential buyer. So we can find the correct ivnestor for us, rather than blindly finding investment who'll put us into more debt.

before people start moaning about Strafford -just remember what we had before him -enough said

Nobody can ever forget who you had before, you never shut up going on about him long enough to forget him

To me he never did, never has, or never will exist

Because most fans are daft and fickle. If we'd won on saturday, there would have been no moaning whatsoever - about pies, beer, strafford etc.
I don't think Strafford should have put that on facebook, but he was right.

But there again as your Straffords number one fan, proven over many a thread, your comments are expected.
Some of the more realistic balanced owls like Corkerswfc, can see through the chairmans status as a all talking, dancing wanabe.

There is very little substance to the man, his claims, his plans and his achievements at Hillsbrough. His aim and sole purpose was to sort out a takeover for the club with out spending his own cash.. He has failed where other clubs and chairman have not only found buyers, but new managers and players and moved on !!

If that latest investment announced by the stadia manager does not materalise will you change your views too? Its all gone quiet since the announcement 2 weeks ago.

But there again as your Straffords number one fan, proven over many a thread, your comments are expected.
Some of the more realistic balanced owls like Corkerswfc, can see through the chairmans status as a all talking, dancing wanabe.

There is very little substance to the man, his claims, his plans and his achievements at Hillsbrough. His aim and sole purpose was to sort out a takeover for the club with out spending his own cash.. He has failed where other clubs and chairman have not only found buyers, but new managers and players and moved on !!

If that latest investment announced by the stadia manager does not materalise will you change your views too? Its all gone quiet since the announcement 2 weeks ago.

I do have a balanced view. I've got no loyalties to Strafford. But he's done a damn fine job. If he starts doing thing badly, I'll be the first to say.

One could say your view on Wednesday as a whole isn't balanced, as every point you make is quite negative.

You keep mentioning that it is spin, but don't say why it is. From day one, who said he doesn't have the cash, but is and has turned all departments in the club around. Investment isn't easy, but we are now in a position to attract it. How is this all spin?
If he wasn't here, players like Beevers and Tudgay would have been long gone. We wouldn't have got a 30k crowd on saturday, we wouldn't be even considering the World Cup bid or improvements to Hillsborough. We wouldn't be creating links with local institutions and business' such as the Children's Hospital, Army, etc etc

Now I understand Blades poo pooing everything that Wednesday do, but I don't understnad Wednesdayites spouting unfounded rubbish. Do we really want to go back to how we were a year ago? There were a hell of a lot of foolish fans who were fed the BS from certain people, that the fan group Wednesdayite were disrupting our club, which was utterly daft! Please don't be stupid again.

. He's dramatically changed this club in a short space of time.

You are very easy pleased Alty, A free pie and your anyones:)

He seems to have done very little in most peoples eyes, and even less on major issues, The wednesdayite shares, the takeover, new investment in players and stadia. Donny may have out spent you this close season !

He is now turning on the fans for a second time on forums as he his under the cosh, and time is running out.

You bring back the word spin! i droped that months ago .
So you have kept players yet not spent on new players !

The crowd on saturday was for a derby, first match of the season yes you would have got a good gate anyway.

Considering a world cup bid and ground improvements ! yes talk is cheap!

The link with the hospital , yes very noble yet cost nothing its tax deductable as a charity donation !

The army yes cheap tickets for servicemen WOW !! FOR HOW MANY AND AT WHAT COST ?

you bring up these issues as if they are ground breaking major investments , they are not they are cheap gimmicks yet you seem to think they have dramatically changed the club. NO Alty they have not ...ONLY INVESTMENT WILL DO THAT.

You are very easy please Alty, A free pie and your anyones:)

:hihi: I got there too late for the free pie.

:hihi: I got there too late for the free pie.

Titanic said they ran out early,tango must have been first in.

Titanic said they ran out early,tango must have been first in.

Tango's in pretty decent shape for someone on the Kop:hihi:

I don't know why the Blades on here are so opinionated on Lee Strafford, the bloke has without doubt made a difference at Wedneday since he came in at the start of the year and has made himself accesible to question, debate and of course criticism whereas Mr McCabe from S2 sits in his ivory tower, counting out his money, so get over it fellas your starting to show a little bit of envy :thumbsup:

I don't know why the Blades on here are so opinionated on Lee Strafford, the bloke has without doubt made a difference at Wedneday since he came in at the start of the year and has made himself accesible to question, debate and of course criticism whereas Mr McCabe from S2 sits in his ivory tower, counting out his money, so get over it fellas your starting to show a little bit of envy :thumbsup:

Mr McCabe is counting his money from being a very good businessman and ensuring Sheffield United will still be playing football 10-20-30 years from now.
Strafford on the other hand plays on facebook and on the internet like the rest us and cant sit in an ivory tower coz hes got no money to count.
Sorry Michael but Corky has got it right on this one, hes not doing much of anything for you.
He is putting positive spins on things but, really nothing is happening mate.
Some people like Corky who follows the owls all over can see Strafford for what he is and thats a spin doctor.
Seriously tell us what he has done to make WEDNESDAY a better run club than when Benns best mate was chairman ?
Got the dulux 5 in to paint over the rust ?
Given a free pie to those showing up before 2pm ?
Made a mess of season ticket delivery even though you are down over 3-4,000 sales on last season

Mr McCabe is counting his money from being a very good businessman and ensuring Sheffield United will still be playing football 10-20-30 years from now.
Strafford on the other hand plays on facebook and on the internet like the rest us and cant sit in an ivory tower coz hes got no money to count.
Sorry Michael but Corky has got it right on this one, hes not doing much of anything for you.
He is putting positive spins on things but, really nothing is happening mate.
Some people like Corky who follows the owls all over can see Strafford for what he is and thats a spin doctor.
Seriously tell us what he has done to make WEDNESDAY a better run club than when Benns best mate was chairman ?
Got the dulux 5 in to paint over the rust ?
Given a free pie to those showing up before 2pm ?
Made a mess of season ticket delivery even though you are down over 3-4,000 sales on last season

You actually want someone to tell you?

Mr McCabe is counting his money from being a very good businessman and ensuring Sheffield United will still be playing football 10-20-30 years from now.
Strafford on the other hand plays on facebook and on the internet like the rest us and cant sit in an ivory tower coz hes got no money to count.
Sorry Michael but Corky has got it right on this one, hes not doing much of anything for you.
He is putting positive spins on things but, really nothing is happening mate.
Some people like Corky who follows the owls all over can see Strafford for what he is and thats a spin doctor.
Seriously tell us what he has done to make WEDNESDAY a better run club than when Benns best mate was chairman ?
Got the dulux 5 in to paint over the rust ?
Given a free pie to those showing up before 2pm ?
Made a mess of season ticket delivery even though you are down over 3-4,000 sales on last season

Be fair CB, the club is 3-4000 down on the chairmans forcast and budget, not last years sales.

Hmm the chairman got his figures wrong there too!

Mr McCabe is counting his money from being a very good businessman and ensuring Sheffield United will still be playing football 10-20-30 years from now.
Strafford on the other hand plays on facebook and on the internet like the rest us and cant sit in an ivory tower coz hes got no money to count.
Sorry Michael but Corky has got it right on this one, hes not doing much of anything for you.
He is putting positive spins on things but, really nothing is happening mate.
Some people like Corky who follows the owls all over can see Strafford for what he is and thats a spin doctor.
Seriously tell us what he has done to make WEDNESDAY a better run club than when Benns best mate was chairman ?
Got the dulux 5 in to paint over the rust ?
Given a free pie to those showing up before 2pm ?
Made a mess of season ticket delivery even though you are down over 3-4,000 sales on last season

On top of the little things he is being criticised for, the attendances have improved, the 'feelgood' factor has returned to the club and also he has made sure we kept hold of players in close season who were possible targets for other clubs :thumbsup:
As for Mr McCabe, he has made good financial decisions as a businessman, but he is exactly that a businessman, with his fingers in a lot of pies, so maybe the tevez money is propping up some of his other interests !

I don't know why the Blades on here are so opinionated on Lee Strafford, the bloke has without doubt made a difference at Wedneday since he came in at the start of the year and has made himself accesible to question, debate and of course criticism whereas Mr McCabe from S2 sits in his ivory tower, counting out his money, so get over it fellas your starting to show a little bit of envy :thumbsup:

They're getting twitchy now that the sleeping giant has started to stir.

They managed to overtake us after the giant was put into a coma by previous regimes, now they sense that their little spell of success (success for them being finishing higher than Wednesday) may be under threat before too long.

whereas Mr McCabe from S2 sits in his ivory tower, counting out his money, so get over it fellas your starting to show a little bit of envy :thumbsup:

So the 3 hour- face to face meeting he just held at the lane is him sitting in his ivory tower is it??

Id prefer to have a chairman who came and spoke to the fans face to face rather than have a kayboard warrior like strafford.

I don't know why the Blades on here are so opinionated on Lee Strafford, the bloke has without doubt made a difference at Wedneday since he came in at the start of the year and has made himself accesible to question, debate and of course criticism whereas Mr McCabe from S2 sits in his ivory tower, counting out his money, so get over it fellas your starting to show a little bit of envy :thumbsup:

Michael you will find that most of the Blades on here are not criticizing Strafford just the way he keeps shooting himself in the foot week after week on OT and now Facebook

It looks now like some of your fans are agreeing with what we've been saying a while Talk to the fans through the papers not on some sort of Forum

They're getting twitchy now that the sleeping giant has started to stir.

:hihi::hihi::hihi: mate- you have just snorted and rolled over again- thats not stirring!! ;)

They're getting twitchy now that the sleeping giant has started to stir.

They managed to overtake us after the giant was put into a coma by previous regimes, now they sense that their little spell of success (success for them being finishing higher than Wednesday) may be under threat before too long.

ha ha ha:) Another classic! SLEEPING GIANT? DORMANT MOUSE MORE LIKE:)

Michael you will find that most of the Blades on here are not criticizing Strafford just the way he keeps shooting himself in the foot week after week on OT and now Facebook

It looks now like some of your fans are agreeing with what we've been saying a while Talk to the fans through the papers not on some sort of Forum

ive said many times Strafford V the cretin before him -no contest

Strafford every time

So the 3 hour- face to face meeting he just held at the lane is him sitting in his ivory tower is it??

Id prefer to have a chairman who came and spoke to the fans face to face rather than have a kayboard warrior like strafford.

Strafford's had a number of official face to face meetings, Q&A sessions etc with the fans since he became chairman, as well as chatting with them at games, in the superstore etc.

He perhaps gets a bit too involved on Facebook and Owlstalk, but it's better than the stoney silence (except for abusing and lying to the company's paying customers) that we had with the previous regime.

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, but it's better than the stoney silence (except for abusing and lying to the company's paying customers) that we had with the previous regime.[/QUOTE]

how true that is

Fellas please, criticism is part of the job for a chairman and I know plenty of Blades who question and criticise Mr McCabe, and would do so even more if he turned up on facebook etc, but he won't do that will he, because he has bigger fish to fry in his empire that includes SUFC !

Just to clear a point up.
Who was the chairman before strafford?

but he won't do that will he, because he has bigger fish to fry in his empire that includes SUFC !

Some . . . . well- most people will say thats because mccabe is a more professional and proper chairman than strafford but if a facebook posting, messageboard writing chairman is what the wednesday fans want then thats fine.
I just think it will have a sad ending all of this.

Some . . . . well- most people will say thats because mccabe is a more professional and proper chairman than strafford but if a facebook posting, messageboard writing chairman is what the wednesday fans want then thats fine.
I just think it will have a sad ending all of this.

Agree 100 %
There will be tears on the blue side of the city
http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs5/i/2005/131/f/a/Crying____by_Hahnsel.jpg

Some . . . . well- most people will say thats because mccabe is a more professional and proper chairman than strafford but if a facebook posting, messageboard writing chairman is what the wednesday fans want then thats fine.
I just think it will have a sad ending all of this.

That's your opinion scott, but does being a more 'professional' chairman make 'your club' a more successful one ?
As for the sad ending, are you Nostradamus in disguise :huh:

I'm confident Wednesday will be structurally, and financially, equal, or better than United in 3 to 5 years.
United are £5 to £6m in debt (McCabe's own words) AND that's taking in to account, a £10m cash injection from McCabe.
Wednesday at the moment are making an operating profit, United are currently running at an operating loss.
If it carries on like it is doing, United are not far away from being in similar debt to Wednesday, with the gap closing all the time.
McCabe is worth a reported £160m .... and Strafford about £3m.
The two chairmen are a lot further apart than the two clubs.
Remember, United have got nowt ..... and Wednesday have got nowt.
Simples!

Just to clear a point up.
Who was the chairman before strafford?

Is this a trick question?
It was Dave Allen, but I think we may have had a temporary one in.

I'm confident Wednesday will be structurally, and financially, equal, or better than United in 3 to 5 years.
United are £5 to £6m in debt (McCabe's own words) AND that's taking in to account, a £10m cash injection from McCabe.
Wednesday at the moment are making an operating profit, United are currently running at an operating loss.
If it carries on like it is doing, United are not far away from being in similar debt as Wednesday, with the gap closing all the time.
McCabe is worth a reported £160m .... and Strafford about £3m.
The two chairmen are a lot further apart than the two clubs.
Remember, United have got nowt ..... and Wednesday have got nowt.
Simples!


What you waffling on about earwiggo ?
Even those with blue and white tinted specs on will read the above as absolute rubbish.

What's not quite right about my post CB?
All facts supplied by Kevin McCabe in a forum at Bumhole Lane, and broadcast on Radio Sheffield.

To make it easier for some Blades to digest ....

Chelsea are allegedly over £100m in debt.
Their owner Abramovich was worth £11 billion in 2007.
He's lost a few quid in recent years 'cos of the crunch.
I don't know his personal fortune as we speak, I did hear it was now 'only' £7billion.
Chelsea are STILL over £100m in debt, regardless of what Abramovich is worth.
Sheffield United are £5 to £6m in the red, and are currently losing a fair wad each season.
McCabe is worth £160m (allegedly).
United are STILL £5 to £6m in debt.
Someone will find the operating loss for 2007/08 and 2008/09, I can't be bothered.... but I think it's approaching £2m a year (but don't quote me).
If Wednesday make say, £1m a year, and United continue to lose £2m a year, the gap, obviously, gets smaller.
It really is very easy to calculate.

To make it easier for some Blades to digest ....
If Wednesday make say, £1m a year, and United continue to lose £2m a year, the gap, obviously, gets smaller.
It really is very easy to calculate.

Not sure how your original post of I'm confident Wednesday will be structurally, and financially, equal, or better than United in 3 to 5 years.works out then because in 5 years time you are still give or take a few quid £20 Million in debt.
If the Blades lose £2 Million a season we still have a chairman worth £150 Million in 5 seasons.
Also we have far more saleable assets than Wednesday.
You have no one close to the £4 Million being bandied about for Kilgallon.
Think you have been drinking the same stuff as Strafford mate :D

The club CB ..... NOT the chairman.
Strafford won't be financially equal to McCabe in 20 years. Please read things more carefully.
A lot can happen in 3 to 5 years, and I think they will.
Wednesday might even have a cash injection from somewhere!
Thousands of shareholders could release their shares to an American multi, multi, multi billionaire.
A Russian/Arab/Aussie/Indian may put billions in.
I reckon the club will be a heck of a lot better off in 3 to 5 years.

A lot can happen in 3 to 5 years, and I think they will.
Wednesday might even have a cash injection from somewhere!
Thousands of shareholders could release their shares to an American multi, multi, multi billionaire.
A Russian/Arab/Aussie/Indian may put billions in.

yes once the other 91 clubs have had their cash injection I am sure some sucker will have a look at poor old wednesday :hihi::hihi::hihi:

Maybe thousands of Wednesday shareholders will make their tiny stakes available for one person to invest in, rather than having shares spread from here to Timbuctoo.
It's akin to you going to a supermarket to buy a box of 'hundreds and thousands' (If you've heard of them).
The first 200 are in the box, but to get the next 10, you have to go to a supermarket in Baghdad. When you've got them, you have to go to Winconsin for the next 10. The next 25 are in a supermarket in France and then .........
You'd soon get fed up of chasing around..
Buying in to Wednesday is not that easy. If it was, investment would have been here years ago.
Simples!

Buying in to Wednesday is not that easy. If it was, investment would have been here years ago.
Simples!

Give over, If teams like Portsmouth, Southampton, Notts County etc can be taken over then I am sure a sleeping giant :hihi: like wednesday can be taken over with too little fuss.
I mean it was going to be easy for Sheard and his boatload of money :o
The debt isn't going to get paid off any quicker when blokes like you and Benn stay at home and post online while their beloved club is playing either ;)

Give over, If teams like Portsmouth, Southampton, Notts County etc can be taken over then I am sure a sleeping giant :hihi: like wednesday can be taken over with too little fuss.
I mean it was going to be easy for Sheard and his boatload of money :o
The debt isn't going to get paid off any quicker when blokes like you and Benn stay at home and post online while their beloved club is playing either ;)

so the £50 i spent in the online shop this week is not supporting them then .

there`s not only ticket sales that bring in income

so the £50 i spent in the online shop this week is not supporting them then .

there`s not only ticket sales that bring in income

When i spend more than that online and then come over at a cost of a couple of grand I am not a supporter to some on here.
If i was living in Sheffield I would be at BDTBL tonight no matter what the weather or the circumstances

Strafford has just sent a friends request to Bennett on facebook after that performance.

To make it easier for some Blades to digest ....

Chelsea are allegedly over £100m in debt.
Their owner Abramovich was worth £11 billion in 2007.
He's lost a few quid in recent years 'cos of the crunch.
I don't know his personal fortune as we speak, I did hear it was now 'only' £7billion.
Chelsea are STILL over £100m in debt, regardless of what Abramovich is worth.
Sheffield United are £5 to £6m in the red, and are currently losing a fair wad each season.
McCabe is worth £160m (allegedly).
United are STILL £5 to £6m in debt.
Someone will find the operating loss for 2007/08 and 2008/09, I can't be bothered.... but I think it's approaching £2m a year (but don't quote me).
If Wednesday make say, £1m a year, and United continue to lose £2m a year, the gap, obviously, gets smaller.
It really is very easy to calculate.

Yep, about 5 mil in debt, and as McCabe has said, some of the Kyles money would be going towards that, and we would have to cut our wage bill considerably (which we have) to help towards it.. 5 mil is nothing nowadays in football.. We have probably one of the lowest debts in the Championship. Our loss last season was due to the high wage bill ( i think we had THE highest in the Championship) it has been lowered considerably so as ive said, it shouldn't be a problem. Lets add McCabe has invested loads off the pitch (Hotel, various football clubs, redevelopment etc) which will leave us brilliantly prepared for the future.

UTB!

Yep, about 5 mil in debt, and as McCabe has said, some of the Kyles money would be going towards that, and we would have to cut our wage bill considerably (which we have) to help towards it.. 5 mil is nothing nowadays in football.. We have probably one of the lowest debts in the Championship. Our loss last season was due to the high wage bill ( i think we had THE highest in the Championship) it has been lowered considerably so as ive said, it shouldn't be a problem. Lets add McCabe has invested loads off the pitch (Hotel, various football clubs, redevelopment etc) which will leave us brilliantly prepared for the future.

UTB!

5 mill is peanuts in football! if wednesday somehow got into the promised land, do a burnley as such we would get alot of money which would reduce the debt significantly, we would probs go down but wed come down in a better financial state because of that one year in the prem. all we have to do is get there now :hihi:

5 mill is peanuts in football! if wednesday somehow got into the promised land, do a burnley as such we would get alot of money which would reduce the debt significantly, we would probs go down but wed come down in a better financial state because of that one year in the prem. all we have to do is get there now :hihi:

Good luck..................................... Your really going to need it. ;) :D

Good luck..................................... Your really going to need it. ;) :D

i dont think we are far off, we just beat rochdale 3-0, we deserve it :hihi:

That's your opinion scott, but does being a more 'professional' chairman make 'your club' a more successful one ?
As for the sad ending, are you Nostradamus in disguise :huh:

Yes it does make united a FAR more sucessful club that wednesday- take a look at each set of accounts and you will see the truth.

Yes it does make united a FAR more sucessful club that wednesday- take a look at each set of accounts and you will see the truth.

Manchester United yes, Sheffield United no, while I can admit Sheffield United are currently in better shape than Wednesday financially, that sort of exaggeration scott suggests your a bit delusional :thumbsup:

Give over, If teams like Portsmouth, Southampton, Notts County etc can be taken over then I am sure a sleeping giant :hihi: like wednesday can be taken over with too little fuss.
I mean it was going to be easy for Sheard and his boatload of money :o
The debt isn't going to get paid off any quicker when blokes like you and Benn stay at home and post online while their beloved club is playing either ;)

I think this highlights the share structure issue. Wednesday are by far a better option than those clubs in terms of fanbase, potential income, ground etc etc. It's the spread of shares which is the big problem. An investor will want a large proportion, unfortunately the single biggest shareholder at Wednesday has 10%.

Give over, If teams like Portsmouth, Southampton, Notts County etc can be taken over then I am sure a sleeping giant :hihi: like wednesday can be taken over with too little fuss.
I mean it was going to be easy for Sheard and his boatload of money :o
The debt isn't going to get paid off any quicker when blokes like you and Benn stay at home and post online while their beloved club is playing either ;)

Strewth!
You didn't read anything I'd said about 20,000 shareholders all over the world then?
No? ..... thought not, you were too busy composing your next put downs and nonsense.
The above clubs have one owner, Wednesday have thousands.
The last thing you could ever say about a Wednesday takeover is that it could be done without too much fuss.
As usual, you are 100% wrong. We must be the worlds hardest club to take control of.
I'll move on, I'm tired of brick walls and all that.

I think this highlights the share structure issue. Wednesday are by far a better option than those clubs in terms of fanbase, potential income, ground etc etc. It's the spread of shares which is the big problem. An investor will want a large proportion, unfortunately the single biggest shareholder at Wednesday has 10%.

So because of what you say wednesday are not a better option.
Who is your biggest shareholder?

Yep, about 5 mil in debt, and as McCabe has said, some of the Kyles money would be going towards that, and we would have to cut our wage bill considerably (which we have) to help towards it.. 5 mil is nothing nowadays in football.. We have probably one of the lowest debts in the Championship. Our loss last season was due to the high wage bill ( i think we had THE highest in the Championship) it has been lowered considerably so as ive said, it shouldn't be a problem. Lets add McCabe has invested loads off the pitch (Hotel, various football clubs, redevelopment etc) which will leave us brilliantly prepared for the future.

UTB!

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Completely different, even Mongoose can see it.

United's wealth ...... McCabe's wealth

Completely different, a Mongoose could see it, ..... but a Blade?

I'll move on, I'm tired of brick walls and all that.

thats what every investor interested in the piggys must be saying.


All these shareholders all over the world weren't too easy to get together when big bucks Sheard came into the picture.
Lets face it, with your debt and crumbling stadium you are not a very good proposition for anyone wanting to takeover.
Rich blokes didn't get rich by throwing their money away.

So because of what you say wednesday are not a better option.
Who is your biggest shareholder?

Yep, that's my point, we would be a far far better option, bar our spread of shares
I think the largest shareholder is actually Wednesdayite now. Then Hulley has roughly 10%, Allen has now just under 9%, there's another shareholder with roughly 10% but his name escapes me. The rest are spread far and wide.

thats what every investor interested in the piggys must be saying.


All these shareholders all over the world weren't too easy to get together when big bucks Sheard came into the picture.
Lets face it, with your debt and crumbling stadium you are not a very good proposition for anyone wanting to takeover.
Rich blokes didn't get rich by throwing their money away.

Not true. He was banking on getting 30% from three directors (including Allen's) and then Wednesdayites 10%. So he'd have 40%, which can effectively run Wednesday, as 60% are spread widely and most of which the shareholder may have passed away. I believe at AGM's etc, a large number never attend/vote on anything. Only problem is, I can't see many investors banking on owning 40% and just hoping the other 60% don't become 'active'.

Yep, that's my point, we would be a far far better option, bar our spread of shares
I think the largest shareholder is actually Wednesdayite now. Then Hulley has roughly 10%, Allen has now just under 9%, there's another shareholder with roughly 10% but his name escapes me. The rest are spread far and wide.

Addy, isn't it?

The remaining 60%ish of shares are the major problem. I've got some myself! Anyone interested in taking over would want a majority shareholding, if not complete control. As it stands, this is impossible which is why we're seeking investment rather than a takeover - but then there's the catch 22 situation of someone not wanting to put millions in unless they can control the club.

Surely some kind of new share issue initiative is required, which should reduce the spread of shareholders.

Addy, isn't it?

The remaining 60%ish of shares are the major problem. I've got some myself! Anyone interested in taking over would want a majority shareholding, if not complete control. As it stands, this is impossible which is why we're seeking investment rather than a takeover - but then there's the catch 22 situation of someone not wanting to put millions in unless they can control the club.

Surely some kind of new share issue initiative is required, which should reduce the spread of shareholders.

Thats the one.

I believe Strafford has mentioned undertaking a rights issue, therefore diluting the older shares and bringing new investment directly into the club. the only issue with that, is all shareholders having the right to purchase these new shares, though the 4 big shareholders won't want to and considering 60% aren't 'active' or are fans like yourself Al, I don't think they'd buy them up, when we want new investment.