Surely this has to be a joke?!

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I used to know somebody who had one, I don't think it was above board though if ya get what I mean.

Is it legal?

I removed the link for several reasons, I am not sure of the legalities of selling monkeys in this country, I am not convinced that it isn't a con, and lastly it's horrible and I am sure that the OP does not inadvertently want to help the seller to sell the poor babies :sad:

I removed the link for several reasons, I am not sure of the legalities of selling monkeys in this country, I am not convinced that it isn't a con, and lastly it's horrible and I am sure that the OP does not inadvertently want to help the seller to sell the poor babies :sad:

I dare say it would be more natural to have a monkey as a pet than a cat. Will links to cats for sale be removed aswell?

I dare say it would be more natural to have a monkey as a pet than a cat. Will links to cats for sale be removed aswell?

We know that pet cats are legal though- we DON'T know that about monkeys at the moment.

It is not illegal, you just need a license.

All above board with a license, similar to a shotgun.

Can you quote which law that is from please, so I can go and read it for myself?

Can you also quote the legislation which applies to captive bred monkeys rather than wild caught ones?

Dangerous Wild Animal Act of 1976

I don't think and doubt very much that there is any specific law wrt captive bred monkey as opposed to wild caught ones. I would however expect that bringing one which had been caught in the wild would require an import liicense from defra, much like foreign food products, for the purpose of import it could be classed as such.

I dare say it would be more natural to have a monkey as a pet than a cat. Will links to cats for sale be removed aswell?

And why would that be?
And I would remove links for cats as well, what is the point of helping these people to advertise them exactly?

Re: removing links for selling cats and monkeys.

I studied the philosophy of animal rights as part of my first degree so we studied in depth. My conclusion was, where do you draw the line? Taking babies from any species by force must be morally wrong - at the age of 13 I felt terrible taking my poodle from his birth mother. Consequently, my cat is a rescue and I would always go that root in future. I do not disagree with having pets - if a monkey was a rescue case and you have its best interests at heart with all the equipment and knowledge required, then fine. If not, I would ask anyone to seriously reconsider their plans.

Sorry I didn't think of it like that when I posted the link. I had assumed it was illegal which is why I posted on here. Is there anything we can do? Should I notify the RSPCA? Would they be likely to do anything? I'm still shocked. I saw someone selling a racoon on there a few days ago

For those who didn't see the link, they were being sold as "free to good home" so I doubt they'll be checking for licenses.

Maybe we should try to get the RSPCA involved and have them confiscated from a person whom presumably looks after them well enough for them to be content to breed. Then maybe we could rehome them free to a good home......

And why would that be?
And I would remove links for cats as well, what is the point of helping these people to advertise them exactly?

A monkey is much more similar to a human than a cat, with a diet, immune system etc. that is more like ours.

Primates naturally live in groups with other primates.

Whereas felines, well... you get the picture.

I just checked back on gumtree n it looks like the advert's been removed....

It appears that your only interest in the pets group is to knock those who have animals chem1st.

I take it that you are aware that the group is for pet owners to share information, not a general discussion area about animals? Your opinion is likely to be removed by the group leaders and it's also likely that the your account will be suspended if you make a habit out of stirring in the group. The groups are not intended for use in this way.

Sorry I didn't think of it like that when I posted the link. I had assumed it was illegal which is why I posted on here. Is there anything we can do? Should I notify the RSPCA? Would they be likely to do anything? I'm still shocked. I saw someone selling a racoon on there a few days ago

For those who didn't see the link, they were being sold as "free to good home" so I doubt they'll be checking for licenses.

It's ok Berkana no one is upset with you or anything, I just tend to remove links like that because in a way it is counter productive to what your trying to do.
Terminator is looking into the legalities and I think that Medusa also is, I don't believe for one moment that they are going to be free, I reckon it's all a con, in fact I might just email them and see what they say! :suspect:

I just checked back on gumtree n it looks like the advert's been removed....

Oh well that's that then, wish I had emailed yesterday, those little monkeys sell for a lot of money no way are they free, and I doubt that they even exist.

I was going to do the same Moonbird, and also speak to the RSPCA but they've removed the ad from Gumtree...

It appears that your only interest in the pets group is to knock those who have animals chem1st.

I take it that you are aware that the group is for pet owners to share information, not a general discussion area about animals? Your opinion is likely to be removed by the group leaders and it's also likely that the your account will be suspended if you make a habit out of stirring in the group. The groups are not intended for use in this way.

For the record I have a cat and have had many other pets, and I've took in strays and took them to the pound on a few occasions.

I'm not trying to 'stir' I have responded to questions asked of me.

You yourself asked me to clarify the law on monkeys, I did.

So I am a pet owner, and I have shared information about animals, namely the law regarding owning monkeys.

Just because you do not agree with my opinion, I do not think it is fair to be threatening to remove my posts and ban me. Especially when I am a pet owner sharing information about animals.

I really hope they don't exist. I hope it was just a joke. I will keep checking back on Gumtree to see if the ad reappears

I really hope they don't exist. I hope it was just a joke. I will keep checking back on Gumtree to see if the ad reappears

Oh I doubt it's a joke Berkana, more like a con I'm sorry to say, just the same as the pretty pedigree puppies that are free but you have to pay £200 to get them shipped over from...where ever, of course they just don't exist people part with the money and never see a puppy at all, in this case I reckon that they are just being a bit more inventive.

For the record I have a cat and have had many other pets, and I've took in strays and took them to the pound on a few occasions.

I'm not trying to 'stir' I have responded to questions asked of me.

You yourself asked me to clarify the law on monkeys, I did.

So I am a pet owner, and I have shared information about animals, namely the law regarding owning monkeys.

Just because you do not agree with my opinion, I do not think it is fair to be threatening to remove my posts and ban me. Especially when I am a pet owner sharing information about animals.

How about you're a bit less confrontational, critical and negative then?

The groups are not run by the mods and are not intended for 'robust debate'. We have a rule for the groups which reads 'play nicely or don't play at all'.

How about you're a bit less confrontational, critical and negative then?

The groups are not run by the mods and are not intended for 'robust debate'. We have a rule for the groups which reads 'play nicely or don't play at all'.

And just to clarify if you don't mind Medusa in case there is confusion.

Although I am a mod I am also one of the group leaders for this group and always have been.

can i just say that the advert is a scam they have a hell of a lot of them on, even have one on for a racoon at minute there is no animal, they say there free then say you need to send money for shipping fee but then u will never see the animal

sorry moonbird i see you have already put this egnore me haha

UK primate pet

As one of only a few monkey sanctuaries in the UK, the Monkey Sanctuary Trust is increasingly called upon to re-home unwanted and neglected ex-pet monkeys from the UK primate pet trade. In recent years, this has meant providing sanctuary for ten capuchin monkeys. Since 2001, we have been working hard to end the trade in primates for pets and raise awareness of the cruelty often associated with it.

This has all taken place during a period when the UK Government has been reviewing three important pieces of legislation and we have been a major contributor to this consultation process.

The new Animal Welfare Act updates and amalgamates many outdated Acts making the law clear and appropriate for today. The new Animal Welfare Act has the potential to substantially restrict the keeping of primates in the UK to ‘specialist keepers’ which, although nowhere near a complete ban, will prevent monkeys being kept as pets in back gardens across Britain. We have been pleased to find a great deal of support from a number of members of the House of Lords; in particular, Baroness Miller, Lib Dem spokesperson on Environment Food and Rural Affairs, who was very helpful presenting our amendments and speaking on our behalf.

The Act came into effect in April 2007 following an announcement in the Queen’s speech in December 2006. The Monkey Sanctuary Trust sits on the working group with the task of developing codes of practice for keeping primates. Through these codes of practice, the Trust is pushing for very strict standards.

In addition to the Animal Welfare Act, the Government has been reviewing the Dangerous Wild Animals Act (DWAA) which currently requires owners of most monkeys to hold a licence in order to keep them. However, some types of monkeys are not considered ‘dangerous enough’ to require a licence and sadly these monkeys are given little or no protection. We consider all monkeys dangerous; as wild animals, they are unpredictable and cannot be domesticated. Primates can also carry viruses which are harmful to humans and likewise viruses common to humans can be harmful and even fatal to monkeys. Proposed changes to the DWAA could sadly mean that fewer species of monkey will require a license to be kept and therefore it will be more difficult to ascertain the exact number of monkeys living in the UK. Again, the Trust is opposed to these changes and has been presenting strong arguments to make licensing compulsory for all primates. However, the Government looks unlikely to change its position and therefore the Animal Welfare Act is even more vital in the battle against the primate pet trade.

International trade and movement of primates has been difficult to identify; following a recent review of the Convention of International Trade in Endangered Species (CITES), Article 8.2, it became apparent that very little is recorded and known about it. Our links with primate sanctuaries overseas enabled us to gather evidence to show that the UK primate pet trade did have an impact on the wild population in the native countries. We thought CITES Article 8.2 might represent another potential way to end the trade in primates as pets in the UK but, again, the Government has pointed us back to the Animal Welfare Act as the vehicle to protect primates.
And behave you two :hihi:

can i just say that the advert is a scam they have a hell of a lot of them on, even have one on for a racoon at minute there is no animal, they say there free then say you need to send money for shipping fee but then u will never see the animal

the raccoon may have been genuine...they are kept as exotic pets i have a friend who had one...the 750 they wanted for it was steep they normally go for lower.
about 99% of the monkey ones are scams...there are monkeys that can be kept without a license i think its marmosets im not 100% though

there are keepers of exotics that keep these animals in large enclosures though theres more that keep them alone in tiny cages. the stupid doctumentaries about americans keeping them as babys wont help it will just make the scammers job easier

I dont know if this was a scam or not but to clear things up i asked if the link could be removed as i was already aware of the situation as a friend had notified the Authorities and didnt want ppl linking up and scaring them off they have all the details but not heard nothing else.But believe me they are available free or cheap i was offered one few year ago for £10 i refused it mainly because of what it actualy did more than anything lol.

I put a thread on here a few years ago might even have been last year regarding a monkey on gumtree. I contacted the Monkey Sanctuary and also Monkey World who told me that most of them are scams and there is not a lot that they can do as they get so many calls and false alarms.

If you do see any then please email Monkey Sanctuary and they will look into it, also complain to gumtree who will remove it.

Actually you do not need a licence what you need is a cites certificate to prove that the animal has either been imported legally or bred in the uk.

Monkeys that are usually for sale are ones not covered by DWA.

I know a guy who has 2

Monkeys when cared for propperly make excellent pets.

Can you quote which law that is from please, so I can go and read it for myself?

Can you also quote the legislation which applies to captive bred monkeys rather than wild caught ones?
If you want to pm me your email address ill send you the report back from monkey world if you wish.

THESE KIND OF MONKEYS????????

http://www.ehow.com/how_2140055_legally-own-pet-marmoset.html

THESE KIND OF MONKEYS????????

http://www.ehow.com/how_2140055_legally-own-pet-marmoset.html

Yes I think that it was a Marmoset monkey, a very young one, or at least that was the picture...not necessarily what anyone would have ended up with though.
I'm not sure if the link was about the legalities of owning one? if so it wouldn't apply here as it is an American site.

Yes I think that it was a Marmoset monkey, a very young one, or at least that was the picture...not necessarily what anyone would have ended up with though.
I'm not sure if the link was about the legalities of owning one? if so it wouldn't apply here as it is an American site.I thought it was capuchin monkey :huh:

I thought it was capuchin monkey :huh:

Oh err it might have been I just had a look they all look similar like baby monkey's to me :hihi: no way of knowing now so we will just have to guess at it :D