confused 23yr old

always worked in admin but i get bored quickly bored now not sure what to do studying that ECDL at college

ive worked in shops pubs call centres offices

just out of interest wondered what u guys do????

I am employed to do all the jobs that no-one else in the company wants to do, basically a general dogsbody.

Originally posted by hachandhach
confused 23yr old

always worked in admin but i get bored quickly bored now not sure what to do studying that ECDL at college

ive worked in shops pubs call centres offices

just out of interest wondered what u guys do????

I did the ECDL at secondary school and in all fairness, it has never come in handy even once. (Mind you, I am not going into an IT or office skills career)

I've just finished my A levels and am waiting for the results at the moment :) I shall be starting my law degree in September and my long term career goal is to become a Solicitor :D At the moment, I work part time in a cafe to pay t'bills etc, yes its boring at times, but it makes me grateful that I'm working my way up the career ladder to something better!

If I were you, I'd do a HND at uni (I think you can do them at college also) and hopefully the experience you will have, will make a career choice seem natural. Perhaps an IT related HND would come in handy for office based work?

Good luck :thumbsup:

IT Contractor, author, occasional film producer, screenwriter, wannabe philanthropist....

Cook, bottle-washer... :)

If you're genuinely short of inspiration, have a look at 'What should I do with my life' by Po Bronson. It's a series of essays about people and their careers. Really interesting.

BTW - as an IT professional I don't think I've ever bothered a toss about whether someone has the ECDL. Might be useful to have for making you stand out from the pack in office work and such, but in IT 'hard skills; with respect to specific technologies and packages are needed.

Joe

thanks guys some ideas there i agree with this ecdl but ive only got 2 moduals left seemd a waste to not finish it!!!

Been office based since i was 19, desperate to get out at the age of 26..

Im searching and searching, no quals no job... pfft!

comin up to 10 years in same office....have quit....gonna be a plumber...

no money, struggle with mortgage, lots of headaches, lots of bills, lots of loans (if i can get any!!). but gotta make a change or be stuck in limbo for everrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.. (thats where the voice echo's out all sinster like)

Very brave and admirable MTheo. :clap:

I was a blackjack and roulette dealer for a while. Interesting job at times, career progression is there if you want it, and you eat breakfast before going to bed alot (and get sick of the sight of cash).

They'll train you up from a lumpy and you could easily be pit boss within a few years.

How are your 17 and 35 times tables?

time tables crap!!

deejay same here fancy starting a business

Originally posted by hachandhach
deejay same here fancy starting a business

Got owt in mind ;)

*sigh* Shoot me when Monday gets here

problem with sheffield there is loads of shops that do the same thing ie. loads of sandwich shops, pc shops, beauty parlours, motor spares.

so what do u do to make money????

ive tried ebay they rob u! dont mind paying to put stuff on but when u have sold it they charge u again.

carboots - no money made 23 quid today shocking

open to ideas

I wonna own the supercar market! muhahahahahaha :twisted:
pfff wonna?! Gonna is the word here ;)

I'm an optical assistant at the moment. I was a medical secretary for 20 years but got canned so office work is now closed to me - no references. I would not want to go back to being a medical secretary though - good pay but very very hard work, loads of responsibility and a guillotine hanging over your neck if you put a foot wrong - or if you don't. If I had a choice I would go back but as an audio typist only.

I teach parchment craft on my days off (and evenings off). I would kill to be able to teach it through a college but to get the relevant teaching qualification (according to Clowne College), you have to have a level 3 qualification in the subject you teach. There is no such thing, therefore no teaching qualification! I am a registered tutor though but so far that doesn't enable me to do the qualification (7307 stage 2). Very frustrating especially as I had done the 7307 stage 1 before the class was told what we needed to teach in adult education. Four of us were stuck in the same boat.

"problem with sheffield there is loads of shops that do the same thing ie. loads of sandwich shops, pc shops, beauty parlours, motor spares.

so what do u do to make money????"

I agree. If someone opens a shop and it takes off, then next thing you know 3 other shops are open doing the same thing. I know competition is healthy and in the end great for us the customer, but when I go to buy my sandwhich at lunch do I really need to have to choose from 6 shops?? These shops are all the same as well, all clones of one another.

I sell a few things on Ebay and some stuff has done really well, others haven't. You will never make a fortune on it like some people state, unless you have a large capital and a warehouse spare.

Hi there -

My advice, for what it's worth, would be to use all the options open to you to find out about all of the careers in areas that interest you. Use your local library, the internet, the local careers service... try to get to talk to people who do jobs that you think sound cool. Check out what you need to do to get there.

My second piece of advice would be: do NOT, whatever you do, give up on any career just because you don't think you're qualified. You'd be surprised how many routes there are into some professions, if you have guts and determination! Don't spend your life regretting the fact that you were 23 and said "Oh what I really wanted to do with my life was to work in TV, but I didn't have the guts to try with all my might to get there".

Just to pick one example (and I've deliberately chosen an "elite" profession just to show that it can be done): say you want to become a lawyer, but you are thinking "Yeah right - where am I going to get the time/money/qualifications to do that?". Well, there are LOADS of ways. You could do an access course (which is geared towards people returning to education after a break) and then go to college (most places have special schemes to encourage "mature" students, i.e. those over 25 to apply). Or you could study with the OU in your own time. Or you even could do a multi-stage non-degree course (there is a scheme!) and train while you work in admin! Or you could get a job with the Crown Prosecution Service and get sponsorship and day release. There are all sorts of ways of making that dream possible! All you need is enough grit and determination not to give up.

So, to wrap it all up: get thinking and then GO FOR IT fearlessly!!!!
take care
D.

I have many jobs because i also get bored very easy

Office work with various companies large and small
Veterinary assistant
Prison Officer
Police Officer
Recruitment Training Manager (current)

always willing to try new things and gain experience

Originally posted by hachandhach
confused 23yr old

always worked in admin but i get bored quickly bored now not sure what to do studying that ECDL at college

ive worked in shops pubs call centres offices

just out of interest wondered what u guys do????

i've got a few more years under my belt & i still get bored. on average i change jobs every 2year 7 months. same job but with different companies.
90% of the job is great it's the 10% that requires some motivation that i lack to be really happy,but i'm good at it so i stick with it.

do a job you enjoy & build your life around it, money etc. don't do it the other way or u will always be looking for that pot of gold that doesn't exist.

I'm 22 and have always had this problem, was at college but got bored with my course so went to live abroard which was great, since leaving school I have been intersted in so many different careers my mum just laughs now when I say 'I want to work....'
I was a restaurant manager up until Christmas which was great, I loved it, the socialising, the organisation, the management factor until it became routine and no longer challenged me then I was like what the hell do I do now?
I ended up working in an office for the first time as a market research executive (sounds posher than it is!) which has been great because it gives you the chance to nosey into different sectors of business and find out more about what interests you and what doesn't.
I now know exactly what I want to do with the next few years of my life and have started applying. I have also managed to gain a qualification while at work and learn computer skills.
So while Market research may not be for everyone, it has definetly helped me decide what I want to do for a job.

I ended up teaching - the one thing i swore i would never do.

Worked at the disney store all the uni and adored it - best job i ever had and i made some true lifelong friends. Managed a carphone warehouse for a couple of years, had a brief and dreadful spell in recruitment then decided all a degree in philosophy and theology was good for was teaching!

So I walked out of the shop on the saturday and into the classroom on the monday to train on the job (if anybody is thinking about doing the graduate teacher training programme please PM me). Learnt very quickly that kids "weren't how they were in my day" and wondered what the hell i'd done!

3 years on - head of department and know i don't want to do it forever. In the situation I don't know what to do instead that will be right for me and more imporatantly pay the right money.

If only I could have my time again I'd do musical theatre at uni and be singing my little heart out in the west end by now!

hello hach please clear your pm box as trying to contact you on previous posting thanks dave

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I was born to do office work, and luckily I really enjoy it... I lack motivation for anything physical, I need 9-5 stability and I'd be too scared of getting it wrong with hairdressing,beauty etc. I prefer to be known as a person rather than a number so that rules out call centres. I'm useless at sales, too body concious for stripping etc and even though i hold a drivers licence I can't drive to save my life.

It's a real bummer, you stay at school and get A levels and a uni degree just to become over qualified and unnemployable like millions of others Then there's the guy who left at fifteen who learned a trade and now earns the sort of money you could only dream about.
Years ago in the days of black and white only the few were able to aspire to higher learning and positions were found for these elite, Supply and demand is an axiom and world economy is based on it. Try and get a plumber to fix a leak or an electrician to sort out a wiring problem and you're going to need two jobs to pay for it.

I just came back from Thailand and Egypt where I worked as a SCUBA diving instructor. Great job! You meet people from all over the world, dive almost every day, in the sun all day, by the beach and all that. But!: you don't earn what you should be earning. Always thought that money wasn't important but it is. When you have 6 students swimming behind you and you are the one responsible for their life, and you end up at the end of the day with 20 dollars then you start thinking.
When you find out that the taxi driver, that drives you to the site, and workes half as hard as you do, but makes double of what you make, than you start thinking again! No offence to taxi drivers, I don't mean it like that at all. Respect for anyone of course.

Right now I'm in England, cold, but I like it. Came here because my girl is British and for me it is all new. Learning a lot here, how it all works and it's actually not so different from Holland (where I'm from).

I worked as a personnel manager in the event industry in Holland before, great job! Would be great to find something like that here! You see of the gib events backstage, maybe meet some nice people, and you can walk around with a backstage pass hehe.

Would really like to be a police man, the problem with that right now is that it takes a long time before you know if you get in or not. So you need a job anyway! Anyone working as a policeman? Please PM me, I would like to ask you some questions.

hmm, what else can you be except a diving instructor. Don't really know myself, trying to figure it our. All I know is that you should be careful with all the home business stuff, maybe nice for some pocket money, but not more.

Good luck with your search! Anyone got an interesting job available? Or a flat in Sheffield? Let me know!

i'm 23! and a surveyor! lol

you have to enjoy what u do as a job!

I didn't have any qualifications and well, messed up at school not because I wasn't smart, but I wanted to do more than have a job. I just didn't want a job. I couldn't see myself working for someone else and find at age 50 I got some pension and I am rocking on chair thinking what I could've done if I wasn't damn scared of having a go. I just thought, "these guys who are loaded ain't no different than me, going to find out what they know and get out there and apply it."

I did find out, I learnt, I associated with successful people, I read the books they read, and well, now, I am a business owner, who has business globally, in Paris, USA, opening in South Africa, and will be expanding rapidly in other countries this year- about 8 countries. I set my own targets, it's not an office kind of work, its meeting loads of people from different background, keeps buzzing, always something new happening, never know where my business takens off, and sometimes i am in Sheffield and sometimes in London, so I am darting off everywhere and its exciting. I dont have to travel all time but I like it cause I can get out of the city and just meet people. Cause its internet business, and its what many buy for their home, its always in demand.

I got loads of friends who help me and though sometimes it's not easy, I feel, nothing is if its worth while and rewarding. Hey, if someone wants me to show them how I do it, I ain't fussed. Loved to meet and share what I do. More competition the better and helps everyone anyway.

I don't mind. More business in world to go round for everyone. Anyway, great thread.

Know just how you feel. Have a degree in drama a post grad for teaching in further and higher. Have done bits of Theatre in Education, some teaching on a supply basis and some singing as part of a local duo. Worked in Jersey and did Camp America. I've spent most of my time though working in offices which I hate. Now in my forties (late) it's getting rather late to address the problem but from what I can gather from talking to others there are many of us who just don't know what we want to do for a living and probably never will.

Hope you find your ideal.

Good luck

Know just how you feel. Have a degree in drama a post grad for teaching in further and higher. Have done bits of Theatre in Education, some teaching on a supply basis and some singing as part of a local duo. Worked in Jersey and did Camp America. I've spent most of my time though working in offices which I hate. Now in my forties (late) it's getting rather late to address the problem but from what I can gather from talking to others there are many of us who just don't know what we want to do for a living and probably never will.

Hope you find your ideal.

Good luck

I don't think it's ever late for change. For example, I learnt, that I had to do a lot of change and it scared the heck out of me. What scared me most, is there is a fashion where sometimes, you speak of big dreams, aspirations, and you know how to get there, and people look at you and start attacking you and saying, "Ooh, too good to be true."

It's too good to be true for a lot of people studying from 3-20 and no income there and then go and add another five years to end up debt of £20,00, average is £19,000. Then go to work to pay debt off to end up with zero. And what got me upset most, is seeing all my four sisters this way, in management work now, but still struggling.

I remember me and my sisters and brothers, sat down, for first time in 10 years to just have a meal together. We talked how our parents brought us in UK and we love sheffield and UK and opportunities it has given us. And they realised that the vehicle they have used is and will always be the wrong one.

So we decided as a family from then on, to not listen to friend's who have no dreams or feel big dreams are too good to happen. We decided to use our jobs, use our boss to fund whatever entreprise we can find. We learnt there are many opportunities and those who fail make the opportunity look bad by saying, "it didn't work for me. It's rubbish, it's a scam."

But when we addressed these very people what they do, we found, they did their way not the way opportunity or the success principles taught them to do. They got some no's and gave up. They had families and friends nudge them and listened to their views while their very family, friends, didn't know what success is or know where they are going anyway. Yet, they have a lot of opinions but can't solve their own.

We had to change and I changed, started at age of 37 years old, others in my family freom 40 years old. Now, our businesses are global but it wasn't easy Bernie.

I swear, I failed so many times. Man, I had so many obstacles even other families of mine were not willing to even help. There was just me and my wife. Not one friend, not one family helped. They just watched us struggle.

I sometimes didn't have a penny to my name. I would walk with my sharp suit from firthpark to lowedges to find the appointment I made wasn't even there. There were times I travelled london and back, for an appointment to find the person didn't turn up in his own door step or city. My business went up and down, to sometimes zero turnover.

But I knew, it wasn't the business, it wasn't the people. It wasn't anything but me. Character was never built on top of mountains. People assume we become success because of luck. Character is built in the vallies and all my life, since I was a kid I wanted to come to UK, just to have that one chance. Just one chance.

I knew I'd fail, I knew I might lose so much in trying and would maybe start again and again but I also knew, that experience is not wasted. I also knew one day, I'll learn how, I'll find that successful pattern, I'll find the good people, I'd find families, friends I never known before, white, black, religious, not religious but we'd have that same goal, same fire in our bellies to step out of the crowd and just go for it.

I remember, I had letters of possessions of my house. I remember the days at court about to lose everything. I remember I couldn't pay even a bus fare or for a cuppa tea. All I had was belief, and my wife believing in me.

Even if I lost everything then Bernie, I still be smiling because I never had it so good in UK. Never did I sign on dole. I'd rather die than take someone else's money who worked hard to pay for my living. It was a code in our family to never do this. I remember, doing newspaper rounds as a grown man just so I don't sign on dotted line. I remember, going to a business training with no money for food, staying in hotel and when training finished, I slept outside, in bushes with my suite, wondering how long will it take, with doubts sometimes in my head to shake those doubts and remember, I come a long way to succeed. And this is what my children will one day read, or hear about and their hero wont be 2PAC or some football player. It be me and their mum.

You can live for 40-50 years but if you had 1 year from these years of fighting for your dreams, then that is the one which shapes your character, and one to be remembered by.

People pm me, emailing me, talking to me about, "too good to be true." They want it all in a plate, they want to know by email. Idoits. I didn't get it that easy, so if one needs something they'd gonna need to meet half way for life to give them their jewels.

They don't know half of it. Success will slice you open first, to find the real you. And you will have to face who you are. You can't hide from yourself. And some fail miserably not because of business, not because of competition but because they can't handle rejections, they can't handle the crowds negativity and comments, they're not willing to change, not willing to submit to fact that all their lives they used a vehicle that hasn't got them there and now its time to change.

Never too late. If I had just one day of my life, I'd still go for my dreams and rip this city apart to find what I'm looking for. And die happy than die thinking, "well, that's life."

Richard Branson failed 3 times. His business went down again and again but he got up. He evern wore a wedding dress to promote his business. How far would anyone go, what price one is willing to pay for their way out.

People don't know how good they got it in UK. Many do and they're not even from this country and they're taken every opportunity to reap the rewards, get business going, any kind of business and just go for it. While the majority watch TV, scream about football and lates gossip of who married who on coronation street. Anfd be content with the 40 year plan of a job.

Man, I seen things I dislike; where people send their own parents who cared for them to nursing homes. Why? Cause their too busy working, no money, not enough time due to jobs to give back to their own parents. I couldn't believe when I heard people sending their parents to nursing homes or letting them live on their own. But that's what people do nowadays.