Just seen a couple of properties on Wulfric Road in S2 (just off City Road), but don't know anything about the area.

I have lived in Sheffield all my life but never really had too much to do with that particular area other than driving through on the main roads.

Going to have a drive down tomorrow to see what it looks like, but just wondered if anyone could give me an idea what the Wulfric Road area is like.

Would be really interested in the opinions of people who live around there (if there are any on here) as I know people who don't live there are often too quick to tar anything in S2 with the same brush and I don't want to do that as I know this is often not the case.

Just to clalrify - it's the Prince of Wales Road end of Wulfric Road I am interested in (where all the new houses are), not the City Road end.

We had a drive round today and it looks really nice and quiet, but would still be interested from anyone who knows the area.

Thanks

I have mates who live up there - Its OK, they like it and seems to be a growing community feel to the place now the newbuilds are being bought up. I reckon the place is on the up and should stay pretty good.

It is still Manor however, so there are still issues of crime and antisocial behaviour at times...

Matt

Originally posted by cornerstone
I have mates who live up there - Its OK, they like it and seems to be a growing community feel to the place now the newbuilds are being bought up. I reckon the place is on the up and should stay pretty good.

It is still Manor however, so there are still issues of crime and antisocial behaviour at times...

Matt

Thanks for your reply.

I wonder if the crime and antisocial behaviour have worked their way towards the new estates around there that we are looking at. We drove through at about 10am and it was very quiet and pleasant - certainly nothing like people tell you the area is like - there were no signs of litter, graffiti (sp?) or anything like that.

We will try and have a drive through late one evening to see if the time of day makes a big difference.

Still really interested in anyones opinion of the new estate in the Wulfric Road area (the very far end almost before the road runs out) as we are definately still very interested in the area from what we have seen so far.

*Waits for t020 to come into thread and bleat about the crime stats of the area* :D

I highly DOUBT that there is NO crime in his oh so precious Eccleshall.. :roll:

Originally posted by Rich
*Waits for t020 to come into thread and bleat about the crime stats of the area* :D


Rich, you master baiter!

I work near the "new" end of Wulfric Road, and it seems nice enough... haven't seen any trouble. Haven't been there at night though, so that might be different.

Originally posted by Rich
I highly DOUBT that there is NO crime in his oh so precious Eccleshall.. :roll:

You really do have issues Rich..

Book a session with a Psychiatrist for all our sake!

Just been for a drive through again as it's later in the evening now and more likely to see any youths hanging around if there are any.

I am please to report that it was quiet as a mouse. There were a couple of youths walking through the 'old' part but not causing trouble or anything - just walking to the shops by the looks of it.

Drove from City Road through the 'old' part and then the 'new' part and it was peace and quiet in both areas.

Very impressed - just goes to show you shouldn't listen to everything you hear. Certainly looks like that area is on th eup now.

We are trying to get a viewing at the properties we like now.

Are they planning on replacing the 'old' houses too and replacing them with new council or private houses? There's still a lot of building work going on up there it seems.

Hi,

I live on the new development very close to Wulfric Road, at the end close to the Fairleigh social club.

Having been here for three and a half years, the pace with which the area improves gathers speed.

My neighbours are good people, and the residents have pride in their homes and the area.

Touch wood, neither I nor my neighbours have had trouble with crime.

There is sometimes a problem with noise from the social club at the weekends, if you live very close to that it may bother you a little.

Also... the green area and playground attract kids from surrounding areas, many of them like to belt up and down on those noisy mini motor bike things (!) which is irritating, but not a serious bother. The police have been reasonably effective by confiscating the bikes.

Genuinely, I'd say that this is a good place to live. The negative points mentioned are not that big a deal. On the whole, the place is quiet and tidy.

Hope you find the house you are looking for!
Dave

Hi Keith- I got your PM, so here's my two-pence worth!

The reason I didn't add to this thread earlier is because from your post it sounds as though you want to move to Wulfric Road and not the new-build area (be it Balmoral Grange or Parklands).

As I don't live near to Wulfric Road and as I rarely walk through it (I usually go to the tram stop at Manor Top via Prince of Wales Rd, not the one at Spring Lane via Wulfric Rd), I didn't feel that I was able to provide advice about the road.

From what I've seen, it seems to be OK and fairly quiet. Someone on this Forum once described it as 'scruffy', but having now been there myself, I've found this description to be really unfair. Most of the houses on the road (particularly the newer homes) are nice and seem to be well looked after.

I've lived at Parklands for nearly two months now and despite certain members of this posts over-inflating everything- I certainly do not walk to and from my home in fear for my life! I have lived in more reputable areas such as Crookes and feel just as safe walking around my dev. Generally, the particular area that I live in (the dev is quite big) is really quiet (... well except for the builders clanking about!).

The neighbours tend to look out for one another as we know that the surrounding council area has a bad rep- this gives the place a good community feel and people are very friendly to one another.

Hope that this helps- sorry I couldn't be more informative.

Lib1

Hi Lib1, thanks for your comment.

I'm not actually sure yet what development the places we are looking at on Wulfric Road come under. There is nothing in front of them except land (suspect more houses eventually), but behind is a massive area of new houses, flats etc.

It's the far end of Wulfric Road (the new end) and you can't even see an old house (council or otherwise) from the properties. You can see the social club from it that DaveJames mentioned but it's far enough away to not be a problem I think.

As far as the questions I was asking re quality of area etc. I guess it will be the same for all the new properties up there as even if they are different developments that border each other they will be the same if you know what I mean.

Lots of good comments from people on here though so it looks good.

Still trying to sort out a viewing inside the properties, but outside and the area (to me) looks good so far.

Dude I forgot to mention the areas biggest selling point... only five mins drive to the HOOOOJ 24 hour Asda at Handworth !!! Marvellous for the late night munchies.

Good luck !

And! Only a 5-10min walk to Somerfield, Netto and Spar at Manor Top. Also home to multinational takeaways- Fish and Chips, Chinese and Pizza... what more could you want?

Originally posted by DaveJames
Dude I forgot to mention the areas biggest selling point... only five mins drive to the HOOOOJ 24 hour Asda at Handworth !!! Marvellous for the late night munchies.

Good luck !

:-D Thanks.

Now if the estate agent would just get back to me about viewings... I will give them until tomorrow and then chase them I think.

Originally posted by Lib1
And! Only a 5-10min walk to Somerfield, Netto and Spar at Manor Top. Also home to multinational takeaways- Fish and Chips, Chinese and Pizza... what more could you want?

On no, not take-a-ways. I can't resist a good take-a-way and good ones so close would not help my ever increasing waist LOL

BTW- Which estate agent are u using and what street is the property on (if you don't mind me asking!)

Lib1

Did anyone mention our close proximity to Beirut?

Originally posted by Lib1
BTW- Which estate agent are u using and what street is the property on (if you don't mind me asking!)

Lib1

The property is on Wulfric Road. We're keeping other details close to our chests at the moment as we think we've found a great property, so until we've viewed it we're keeping hush hush :)

Would anyone up this area say there are a lot of students?

I wouldn't have thought so but just found out the property we are viewing tomorrow is on sale by a parent who purchased it for his children while they were at uni.

This got us thinking that it is probably well suited to students with the transport links and maybe more would be coming in September.

We obviously won't be seeing any student as it's not term time now, so won't get a proper feel for what it's like if there are student properties up there.

What's everyone think - normally a lot of students or not?

Hi-

I wouldn't really call it a student area- although I know of some students that live on the dev (they tend to be mature students studying part-time whilst working or are students that live with a friend or partner that is working). As you will have seen from your visits to the area it is hardly 'rowdy' !.

Most of the people in my apartment block are recent graduates and/or young professionals (there are two retired couples). The surrounding houses are occupied by families.

As I work in the town centre, your point about the accessibility and transport links in the area is spot on. However, just that little bit too far out of town for most regular students (ie 18-21 year old party animals) to want to inhabit... although saying that, the development is just off City Road where many Shef Hallam student houses are.

Hope that helps!

Lib1

Thanks Lib1, much was I thought.

Hopefully it will be what we hope tomorrow.

One thing though, we have been told by the estate agent that it's been on the market for about 6 weeks. Would you say this is a short or long time in that area?

Hi-

6 weeks is not overly long. The older new-build homes (Balmoral Grange) tend to sell extremely quickly- usually within two months of a 'For Sale' sign going up, a 'Sold' sign springs up in its place.

The sales of the newer new-build homes (Parklands) which are generally more expensive than Balmoral Grange don't seem to sell as fast. Some of the lower priced apartments have sold within two months, but the more expensive apartments and houses have been lingering on estate agents websites for quite a bit now (although people are still regularly signing up for the future off-plan Parklands homes).

Besides the differences in price, a factor of the slower sales on the newer part of the development may be due to the fact that a lot of it is still under construction (you need to travel through a building site to get to our place). In addition, if I remember correctly, the build completion date for the whole of Parklands (we're on phase two which is still in development- they haven't even really started on phase three and four yet!) will be in late 2006 to early 2007 (judging by the speed at which my place was finished- make that 2008!).

Balmoral Grange is completely finished and has proved to be popular over the last few years- this, plus the price, probably makes these homes more desirable to buyers.

Good luck with your visit to the property that you are interested in. I hope that it lives up to your expectations.

Lib1

Thank you. I'll post back tomorrow with what we find after we have viewed.

They agent tells us someone else is viewing after us (not sure how true) so we have to try not to let this rush us if we do like the place.

Dude... i've had 2 houses on Balmoral now... 1st one was a new build - but when I put it up for sale it sole for more than the asking price in less than a week.

The house I then bought (just round the corner also on Balmoral) was only on sale for 2 weeks when i got it.

Naz n Alison sold their house next door to me in March, and it had only been on the market for 2 days !

When you look at what else is available in Sheffield for similar prices, it's no surprise that these go fast.

Really - i'd say that if you like it, go for it as quickly as you can.

Plus... it's got the added tourist benefit of being so close to a detailed re-construction of the New York bronx.

Good luck

Went to view today. It was really nice inside.

We are going to call to arrange a 2nd viewing on Monday if we can, and then probably put an offer in if we are as happy after that viewing.

Drove through late yesterday evening, and again, no sign of yobs or any trouble, so very happy on that front. This afternoon was busy when we went, but no trouble, just people going about their business.

Just read the thread on here about unscrupulous management companies on leasehold properties. Hope it's not run by one of those! We will need to ask I guess who owns the freehold on our 2nd viewing, and what the charges cover etc.

The leasehold is Manor and Castle Development Trust. I think we pay 50quid a year which pays for maintenace of the paths, trees, grass areas - and the removal of vandalism in the playground :@)

It's not extortionate and they do a nice job of keeping the place tidy.

They said the Ground Rent was £50/year and the Service Charge was £150/year (I think). Never asked who owned it though.

So Manor and Castle Development Trust are responsible for the whole area (in terms of ground rent and services)?

I believe it is the Manor & Castle devt. trust who look after the whole area yeah, though I don't pay any service charge on my property, just the 50 quid ground rent.

Cheers

2nd viewing this afternoon. Couldn't think if anything wrong with it when we slept on it over the weekend, still very happy with what we saw, so unless we spot something we blatently missed 1st time round we will be putting an offer in today after the viewing.

:)

Hi Keithmdw,

I'm glad that you liked the house and the area. Completely different to its popular description of 'Beirut' isn't it?

I hope that your second viewing goes well and (I'm probably 'jumping the gun' here, but anyway...) welcome to the neighbourhood!

Lib1

Lib... you're out of tune hun!

Fairleigh area isn't known as Beirut.... is the estate on the OTHER side of Prince, with the burned out houses with no roofing etc...

If you've never been... take a camera (cheap disposable one!) cos your mates will never believe you when you tell em bout it !

I know- others don't.

For e.g: Quote by BertieBasset on the Parklands dev: "Maybe you should think about giving your new flat a name....Beirut springs to mind..... "


Lib1

Hi Lib1, Thanks.

We have put an offer in and we are now waiting to hear if it is accepted or not.

As these things go we may have to revise our offer if the seller is not happy with it (we made a slightly below asking price offer, but then that's expected really).

Hopefully we can get accepted though, and get the wheels in motion.

I agree though, what we have seen certainly does not live up to it's reputation. Had I not seen it for myself I would never have considered the area based on it's reputation. Just goes to show you should never listen to rumour. We cartainly wouldn't be prepared to spend tens of thousands of pounds if we didn't think it was a good area now.

Just a thought. Has anyone up there got Broadband?

Not being able to get Broadband would be a massive problem for us.

I ran the postcode through BT's site (www.btbroadband.co.uk) and it said it should be able to get it but would need a phone number to check.

If anyone up there close to Wulfric Road could run their phone number through the BT checker and let me know what it says (or if you already have broadband), then I'd really appreciate it.

EDIT: I used some cunning and using directory enquiries found the phone number of the next house number up (which is even so probably over the road and has a different post code), and that came up fine when I ran it through the broadband checker.

Good luck with the sale- I hope you manage to get the house at a reasonable price!

Lib1

Yeh man, I run broadband on Fretson Green. Shouldn't be a trouble for you.

Thanks Lib1 - I've a feeling we're going to end up having to put in an asking price offer, but we have budgeted for that and this is not a problem. Would be nice to get it cheaper so we can save some cash and use the money on making the place a home and cover the solicitors fees etc., but we always figured on asking price so we would not be dissapointed if we had to pay it.

DaveJames - Thanks. I did a 192.com search for people in the property and then used directory enquiries to get their phone number and run it through a broadband checker. A little detective work. No numbers for people in that block but found a number for someone next door and it came back fine so I am happier now.

We've increased our offer and it has now been accepted.

:) :)

Looking forward to getting all the formalities out of the way in due course and moving in.

to be held in such high regard that people quote me now.... :hihi:

Originally posted by Lib1
I know- others don't.

For e.g: Quote by BertieBasset on the Parklands dev: "Maybe you should think about giving your new flat a name....Beirut springs to mind..... "


Lib1

not sure whether Lib1 mentioned about the letterbomb, but don't let that put you off as I'm sure it was an isolated incident. :suspect:

Originally posted by keithmdw
We've increased our offer and it has now been accepted.

:) :)

Looking forward to getting all the formalities out of the way in due course and moving in.

I saw the letterbomb mentioned on a post somewhere. It didn't put us off. It seemed to be at a house still being built and it's the kind of thing that happens even in the nicest areas these days. Kids see a building site and think it's a playground and something to trash.

Only time will tell if we made a good decision. We hope so. Certainly haven't seen anything to put us off on our visits there or posts on here. We wouldn't be buying if we had :)

keithmdw, congrats on the accepted offer!!!

I hope that the rest of the sale goes as smoothly.

Lib1

that's fair enough, if you've taken representative samples of the area at different times of the day then it sounds like you've been very thorough. Even in areas like Fulwood and Ecclesall there are problems with youths. The best chance any area has is hoping that the infill of new people with their habits, behavious and expectations lifts up the general standards of the area that already exists, sounds like you'll do this so your new neighbours should be grateful.

Originally posted by BertieBasset
not sure whether Lib1 mentioned about the letterbomb, but don't let that put you off as I'm sure it was an isolated incident. :suspect:


The part of the dev that keithmdw is interested in (Balmoral Grange) has been fully built for about two years now.

Any probs affecting the homes on the Parklands dev that are unnoccupied and still under construction are of no concern to him, his family or his (new!) neighbours.

Lib1

speak for yourself!

I think it would be of interest to anyone thinking of moving into an area to know what the recent patterns of crime are in the surrounding area....generally people like to know what they're buying into!!

Originally posted by Lib1
The part of the dev that keithmdw is interested in (Balmoral Grange) has been fully built for about two years now.

Any probs affecting the homes on the Parklands dev that are unnoccupied and still under construction are of no concern to him, his family or his (new!) neighbours.

Lib1

WORRY YE NOT - The Lord of the Manor speaketh:-

One has sent the footsoldiers into the hills to catch the vagabonds who pillaged the land and ransacked a new build property with a letter bomb.

Once reprimanded they shalt be sent unto the tower for immediate be-heading. Their heads will then be displayed on spikes as a warning to those who would bring the Manor Lands into dis-repute.

Please fully understand how seriously I, the Lord of the Manor, take the safety of the peasants living within the grounds of the Manor House.

Salutations.
LotM

**
Career vacancy at the Manor House - we currently have an opening for a house keeper. Experience not neccessary; though a French accent, and a willingness to answer to "Mimi" will be an assett for all apllicants. Living quarters and uniform provided, generous rates of pay.

Balmoral Grange is separate to Parklands (especially Wulfric Rd- where Keith is buying). Balmoral Grange has been in existence for about three years and has earned the reputation of a safe and friendly neighbourhood. Homes sell quickly and are very popular.

I don't see you warning people off the Norfolk Park dev because of it's close proximity to those weird, square pre-fab 'houses' which surround the top part of the Norfolk Park dev and the rough-looking people that inhabit them. Have you been to the local pub on that estate before... bet you haven't! You also don't remind those that are interested in the Norfolk Park dev that the glass in the nearest tram and bus stops is often smashed by vandalisers.

Bertie we could argue forever, but it is really boring and there is no point. To you and any others that are disbelievers-

Go visit the Balmoral Grange dev. Go visit the Parklands dev.

You will see for yourselves that the areas are very quiet and (dare I say it...) peaceful. I'm not friightened when walking through the area- the several visitors that I've had to stay at my place would have known nothing of the 'dodgy' reputation of the area if I hadn't told them about it.

We have repeatedly told you that we find the area to be a safe place to live. You obviously don't believe us, so go see for yourself!

If we are lying and are all living in fear of our lives in burnt out homes- then I'm sure that you'd be more than happy to report this back to the Forum.

The acts of vandalism have been mostly minor, cheap and cowardly attacks on empty and half-finished buildings. It's mostly cracked window panes- the letterbomb was a very extreme and rare incident (and may I just add, only a small no. of the unfinished buildings have been affected)- the problem is common across both residential and commercial building sites across the UK.

In the particular situation of Parklands, I actually attribute part of the blame the the builders/building company. After the builders leave the site at hometime, the homes under construction are not adequately fenced off with barriers and the like- anyone can walk in and out of the building site as they please.

However, if the vandalisers (otherwise known as '******* little kids!!!') had intended to trash and burn down the whole neighbourhood- surely they would have done it by now? They have plently of opportunities if this is their aim.

Lib1


Question for the moderators: Why did you remove the post from the resident on the Parklands dev that mentioned the letterbomb incident? I've been involved in many a controversial discussion in the forum, but to my knowledge, none of my posts have ever been removed.

but it's the same area...:loopy:

Originally posted by Lib1
Balmoral Grange is separate to Parklands (especially Wulfric Rd- where Keith is buying). Balmoral Grange has been in existence for about three years and has earned the reputation of a safe and friendly neighbourhood. Homes sell quickly and are very popular.

I don't see you warning people off the Norfolk Park dev because of it's close proximity to those weird, square pre-fab 'houses' which surround the top part of the Norfolk Park dev and the rough-looking people that inhabit them. Have you been to the local pub on that estate before... bet you haven't! You also don't remind those that are interested in the Norfolk Park dev that the glass in the nearest tram and bus stops is often smashed by vandalisers.

Bertie we could argue forever, but it is really boring and there is no point. To you and any others that are disbelievers-

Go visit the Balmoral Grange dev. Go visit the Parklands dev.

You will see for yourselves that the areas are very quiet and (dare I say it...) peaceful. I'm not friightened when walking through the area- the several visitors that I've had to stay at my place would have known nothing of the 'dodgy' reputation of the area if I hadn't told them about it.

We have repeatedly told you that we find the area to be a safe place to live. You obviously don't believe us, so go see for yourself!

If we are lying and are all living in fear of our lives in burnt out homes- then I'm sure that you'd be more than happy to report this back to the Forum.

The acts of vandalism have been mostly minor, cheap and cowardly attacks on empty and half-finished buildings. It's mostly cracked window panes- the letterbomb was a very extreme and rare incident (and may I just add, only a small no. of the unfinished buildings have been affected)- the problem is common across both residential and commercial building sites across the UK.

In the particular situation of Parklands, I actually attribute part of the blame the the builders/building company. After the builders leave the site at hometime, the homes under construction are not adequately fenced off with barriers and the like- anyone can walk in and out of the building site as they please.

However, if the vandalisers (otherwise known as '******* little kids!!!') had intended to trash and burn down the whole neighbourhood- surely they would have done it by now? They have plently of opportunities if this is their aim.

Lib1


Question for the moderators: Why did you remove the post from the resident on the Parklands dev that mentioned the letterbomb incident? I've been involved in many a controversial discussion in the forum, but to my knowledge, none of my posts have ever been removed.

OK-

Then the square shaped, run-down rough pre-fab council estate houses are in the same area as the Norfolk Park dev.

Please make sure that you inform all those interested in moving to the Norfolk Park dev of this from now on.

Lib1

look who's getting touchy and defensive....oooooooooh!!!

Originally posted by Lib1
OK-

Then the square shaped, run-down rough pre-fab council estate houses are in the same area as the Norfolk Park dev.

Please make sure that you inform all those interested in moving to the Norfolk Park dev of this from now on.

Lib1

Children, please. This isn't a "my estate is better than your estate ner ner na na" thread.

Can we please get back to topic?

Merci bucket.

I agree DaveJames.

Sorry Keith- however, I'm sure that you would much rather live in the same area of the Parklands dev rather than the horror next to the Norfolk Park dev.

what's this got anything to do with Norfolk Park, aren't we discussing the desirability of the Manor? Letterbombs et al....:hihi:

No worries :)

When we saw the new builds going up at Norfolk Park we though, "as if you would", but I haven't spent time in the area so can't comment.

Same would have gone for the Manor. When we saw the property advertised, we both said "oh no". But gave it a chance, and well, here we are buying.

Maybe there's a lesson to us all that we shouldn't dismiss areas we don't know just because of their reputation. We almost did and would have lost out on a great property in what seems to us like a nice area. Don't listen to rumour, go see for yourself.

We have driven round the Manor area around these developments at all times of the day and night and in all honesty only ever saw people minding their own business. There were youths, but they were all just going about their business and certainly didn't look like they were out for trouble.

Every area has trouble - look at the state of Dore/Totley these days - they are having loads of trouble with youths, but it was only recently it was the nicest area in Sheffield.

Just how quiet/noisy is the playpark & Social Club on Fretson Green?

And what is the school like just across the Road? (St Theresas School).

And has the price of apartments levelled on Wulfric Rd?

So many questions

Lucky Jim

Um.... well.... living next to the social club myself; it's noiser than if I didn't live next to it !

Honestly its not bad. You have to expect noise to a certain extent, and the social club gets a bit roudy at the weekends late evenings (just make sure you're out in town getting drunk so it won't bother you!!!).

The green and play area attract some noise as well from kids playing football, but nothing un-bearable. I'm sure it could be a lot worse than it is, so shouldn't complain !

Keith,

well done for getting the house! I was same as you wondering whether to take the risk or not knowing the reputation on the area.. but I moved in the parkland dev about a year ago and is now very happy!
The new houses across from us are shooting up!! Can get abit dusty at times... but most of them are nearly finish now.

Hope the rest of the sales go smoothly..
let us know how you get on.

Krystal

Wulfric. Fantastic pagan name, wonder where it originates?

it's a decent enough area near to the tram frequent buses and close to town and manor top.

We are on holiday at the moment so have left it all in the hands of our solicitors. Hopefully everything is moving smoothly while we are away.

Not had any frantic calls from anyone yet any way LOL

I'll keep you all updated.

Looking forward to moving in.