View Full Version : Are mice really harmless to bunnies?
soulmatez 09-07-2009, 12:40 i have a lionhead bunny and we have in the past seen a few little mice running out of this cage. I dont see them anymore but i think they are still visiting because the other morning i went out to feed him and there was little mice dropping in his cage and in his food bowl!!!!
can they hurt him ????????????????????
I doubt it. I suppose there is a small risk they could spread infection / viruses, but its probbaly nothing that your rabbits immune system cannot cope with.
I personally wouldn't worry, but I suppose its possible the mice will breed and the colony get bigger. I would keep an eye on the situation to make sure you don't get overun with the little beggars.
terminator 09-07-2009, 13:04 If you have vermin in your hutches then you no longer have Good hygiene and it needs to be sorted your rabbits immune system can not cover every possible virus ect these little sods can bring.
lottie_s 09-07-2009, 13:32 I dont think its fair saying that soulmatez no longer has good hygiene. The hutch may be immacualte for all you know and the environment may be clean and tidy. All the mouse/mice want is the food/warmth. They are found everywhere. not just in places of bad hygeine.
I dont think its bad for the rabbit either as Iv read about loads of hutches being invaded (if you will) by mice. The rabbit may hurt them if he wants to. If you did want to stop them coming into contact with your rabbit though, you would have to consider bringing your rabbit indoors as it will be pretty much impossible to catch them all in humane traps. Also they are great climbers and can squeeze into a hole as small as the end of your biro pen. So in order to mouse proof your hutch, your rabbit would have to suffocate.
Also make sure your rabbit is up to date with vaccinations.
claire1976 09-07-2009, 13:33 Not sure about rabbits but over the many years that I have kept Guinea Pigs I've always had visiting mice, once found a dead one inside the hutch- not sure if the GP killed it!
Anyhow, never had any health probs so far with visiting/sharing mice, of course they are not particularly hygenic and I do disinfect the hutch and bowls etc when cleaning.
hels1977 09-07-2009, 14:01 My concern would be wild mice who have injested poison put down by humans and then being bitten/eaten by the gpig/rabbit.
mice carry fleas that can carry myximatosis etc , you need to remove all food saouces for the mice so they go away , it may mean moving your bunny away into a different area, but I wouldn't be happy to find my bunnies with mice around etc!
bunnykins 09-07-2009, 16:43 i agree i myself have 2 bunnies and mice defo are not welcome,anywhere near buns,
get rid of the mice asap.
how do you know they arnt scaring your buns,or worse still nipping ur buns?????
get rid of the mice----how are they getting into the hutch in the first place??
terminator 09-07-2009, 19:14 I dont think its fair saying that soulmatez no longer has good hygiene. The hutch may be immacualte for all you know and the environment may be clean and tidy. All the mouse/mice want is the food/warmth. They are found everywhere. not just in places of bad hygeine.
I dont think its bad for the rabbit either as Iv read about loads of hutches being invaded (if you will) by mice. The rabbit may hurt them if he wants to. If you did want to stop them coming into contact with your rabbit though, you would have to consider bringing your rabbit indoors as it will be pretty much impossible to catch them all in humane traps. Also they are great climbers and can squeeze into a hole as small as the end of your biro pen. So in order to mouse proof your hutch, your rabbit would have to suffocate.
Also make sure your rabbit is up to date with vaccinations.I was pointing out that even if everything is emaculate once vermin enter the hutch then the hygiene may be lost not that soulmatez dosnt make sure the hutch is hygeine.Hay food water can become contaminated by them.I know most hutchers will get little visitors but they need to be stoped.
its not down to hutch hygene as such its down to the fact the mice want the food that the bunny has , mice can squeeze through the smallest gap and thats how they enter, I went to see a lady once whose cages were imacculate but mice came in as the outhouse was warm and the food was tempting them , as soon as the bunny was moved for a few weeks the problem went away and they never re-appeared!
lottie_s 09-07-2009, 20:32 I was pointing out that even if everything is emaculate once vermin enter the hutch then the hygiene may be lost not that soulmatez dosnt make sure the hutch is hygeine.Hay food water can become contaminated by them.I know most hutchers will get little visitors but they need to be stoped.
Sorry I have misunderstood your message :)
terminator 09-07-2009, 21:07 Sorry I have misunderstood your message :)No probs Lottie_s should have explained it a little better was in a rush when i posted it.
I've got a vision here of you going to the hutch one morning and seeing them all curlef up asleep together ...
foxyflugel 10-07-2009, 10:47 I had my 7 rabbits in my garage for years and mice always lived in there. Found a few squashed ones in my French lops cage - no doubt she had killed them with her size - bless - but had no problems with my buns. Yes they are not ideal to have as the constantly urinate when moving - but never harmed my buns. Even found a few that had got trapped in the mesh squares as they had tried to climb through and used wire cutters to get them out - I know they are vermin but can't see them harmed. I only have one bun left now and he is out in the garden when weather is ok but is mainly a house bun. Still have mice coming into my garage and there are no rabbits there - so the no rabbits no mice theory doesn't really stick - as there is no food source there anymore. I wouldn't get too anxious about it as the mice are coming for your buns food - not to hurt him by biting etc.
my friend used to open her cages and they would drop out of the beding compartments but even so , I wouldn't want to hurt them as such but you can get humane traps for them. I do think they need to be got rid of though in all honesty they do carry pasterella which is a killer for rabbits etc and again fleas that mice can carry can spread Mixymotosis!
foxyflugel 10-07-2009, 21:31 Teeny - not doubting what u say - but my vet told me that all rabbits carry pasturella anyway (in their throats I think she said - bit like coldsore virus in people) and it either kicks off or it doesn't so I don't think that mice can damage in that way.
Steve and Nigel from Peak vets told me that this can trigger off pasteralla and other illnesses they are vermin, not that I personally would want to kill them but I do believe in removing the problem or keeping on top of it. for the well being of your pets.
You can also treat rabbits for pasterella with Baytril if they have symtioms but getting rid if the mice problem to eliminate this the best way to keeping your rabbits healthy, we have had rabbits here while owners have got rid of mice and rats to keep their pets healthy and safe. We had 2 french lops last January as the couple had rats in their garage, we keep all animals who have been exposed like this in quarantine so as not endanger other boarders , hence why we have 3 quarantine areas away from main boarders. Also we do this upon advice from Peak Vets who give us cover for our pets staying here, so we do as we are told as its in the best interest of the pets.
Moonbird 11-07-2009, 09:37 Mice themselves wouldn't harm a rabbit but they do wee and poo in their food.
I wouldn't want my rabbits eating contaminated food and hay that can't be right :gag: surely its a matter of common sense to keep them out of hutches the same way that we try to keep flies and slugs out.
Mice themselves wouldn't harm a rabbit but they do wee and poo in their food.
I wouldn't want my rabbits eating contaminated food and hay that can't be right :gag: surely its a matter of common sense to keep them out of hutches the same way that we try to keep flies and slugs out.
exactly its what they carry in the wee and if they are carrying fleas too!
foxyflugel 11-07-2009, 18:21 If anyone has the answer to totally eradicate a mouse problem in a bunny garage then please do share. Not that I really need it now as my bun is a house rabbit and enjoys human company - that is why I made him a house bun to act in his best interest.
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