heard on news this morning that angelina jolie has adopted a child just wanted to know what peoples thoughts and views are about the subject.

I think that you will find that she has adopted two children and that it is probably none of our business.

Originally posted by cgksheff
I think that you will find that she has adopted two children and that it is probably none of our business.
But this is a forum, so people will talk about it anyway, whether you like it or not...

...lighten up dude.

:nono:

Apparently this child has a grandmother who loves her and wanted to look after her but was too poor to do so
And it broke her heart to have to give her up.
She raised this baby for four months herself before accepting she was too poor to look after her.

Along comes filthy rich Angelina Jolie, slaps 5,000 down and gets the child.

These people make me sick and just see children as things to be bought, to boost their already inflated egos.
I think its immoral.
And the ironic thing is, that these filthy rich stars , dont look after the children themselves , they hire nannies to do it.
makes my blood boil.
especially in this case where the child has a living relative who loves her.
why didnt Angelina Jolie, donate money to the child's grandmother instead so she could bring her up herself.
This buying babies and paying extra money to rush the paper work up should be made illegal.

You hear on the news today.
this is old news this as it was in all the mags last week that she adopted a ethiopian girl names zahara who is 5m old who parents dies of aids.and angelina is very close her heart this cause.
i think it nice that some poeple in the celeb world adopted other kids.they no less human then the working class people that adopt.and i know both her kids (maddok a cambiduan born son) that she adopted are not from her native country and think this nice to give a child that as hardly nothing in the world to be able to live a normal safe life.

Look in todays papers and you will see the full story behind it.
That childs mother died in child birth, not of aids. and the father was unknown.
The grandmother gives a full report in a harrowing interview in a magazine.
Jolie has come under fire from childrens charities for this act.
And the Grandmother is begging her to send her photos of her grandchild.

like you say its none of our business but this is a forum so people will talk about it anyway i think its great what shes doing for those 2 children but like tara said most celebs hire nannies and dont look after the children themselves but they have work do do to raise cash to support thmselves and the children.

im not making sense am i??? or am i???

Originally posted by tara
Look in todays papers and you will see the full story behind it.
That childs mother died in child birth, not of aids. and the father was unknown.
The grandmother gives a full report in a harrowing interview in a magazine.
Jolie has come under fire from childrens charities for this act.
And the Grandmother is begging her to send her photos of her grandchild.


Well im just goin on the story i read in the heat mag.i not seen no papers as do not read them.but what ever the story is she adopted this child and that is it.yes ok jolie could have gave money to help this grandmother out,but there got to be more about this grandmother then being poor for them to let her adopt this child in the first place.they is many people in the world that is poor and bringing up childern so i think they more to this story that the papers have not said.and just to make jolie out to to be the bad rich girl that adoped a child to give a life.

Originally posted by spinny
Well im just goin on the story i read in the heat mag.i not seen no papers as do not read them...

...so i think they more to this story that the papers have not said.and just to make jolie out to to be the bad rich girl that adoped a child to give a life.
Glad to see you're basing your opinions on the words of that bastion of independent investigative journalism that is "Heat"...

...at least you won't find pointless tittle-tattle about celeb's in there.

:rolleyes:

Originally posted by tara
Along comes filthy rich Angelina Jolie, slaps 5,000 down and gets the child.

These people make me sick and just see children as things to be bought, to boost their already inflated egos.
I think its immoral.


Who is immoral, the person who "bought" the child or the person who "sold" it ?

I'm sure we would have all liked to see the child live in poverty and probably die prematurely but unfortunately now she will get healthcare and an aducation.

That evil Ms Jolie, she should be shot.

Originally posted by foo_fighter
Glad to see you're basing your opinions on the words of that bastion of independent investigative journalism that is "Heat"...

...at least you won't find pointless tittle-tattle about celeb's in there.

:rolleyes:


Im not saying that i found it pointless at all.this was in the mag well befor it was stated on the news today.i did say that i dont read the papers.and i did place my post and then notice as tara posted hers at same time as me. that why i did not know about the papers.

but i agree with what nic2 is saying.it is not ok for her to adopt she must be bad takein this child out of the poor world,but poor on the grandmother that got her sold.that why i say somethng eles got to be going off as they is so many kids like this one liveing in such a poor state.or does she know jolie got money and tryin to cash in.

The article in the Daily Mail states that the 5,000 was payed to the adoption agency. not directly to the Grandmother.
Who was probably only given a fraction of this amount if any.

quote from Grandmother "No one wants to give away her own flesh and blood, but the adoption office said they could give her a better life."

well they would wouldnt they. knowing that they could sell the child on and get thousands.

oh and nick2 lets go the whole hog shall we, lets not help these poor families in Africa , financially to help equip themselves to be able to afford to bring their own blood relatives up.
Lets adopt all the babies instead. Or more to the point lets send all the rich celebs to do it. people with good morals and family values, :rolleyes: twice divorced and living with someone elses husband.

I fully agree with the league for African Development who stated that miss Jolie could have helped the grandmother in the same way that people sponser children abroad.

miss jolie chose not to do this.

Originally posted by tara
oh and nick2 lets go the whole hog shall we, lets not help these poor families in Africa , financially to help equip themselves to be able to afford to bring their own blood relatives up.
Lets adopt all the babies instead. Or more to the point lets send all the rich celebs to do it. people with good morals and family values, :rolleyes: twice divorced and living with someone elses husband.


don't get your pinny in a twist dear.

Tara, personally i think your being very unfair on the action's of Angelina, She has every right to adopt a child just like everyone else, i'll admit, celebs usualy get things donea hell of a lot quicker, but she still has the right. Even if this young child has a grandmoter, who i'm sure does love her, at the end of the day, she decided she couldn't give her what she needed and made the decision to put her in an orphanage, so out of anyone, she shouldbe te one your blaming.

Angelina is very big on things like this, and i'm sure if the grandmother has asked for photos or whatever than Angelina will happily give them, she's nota heartless bitch, She's out there trying to help, doing what she can, and in return she's been given the chance to give this girl a good life.

I tend to agree with you, tara. While it's admirable for someone to adopt a child from an impoverished part of the world in order to give that child a better life. I have to wonder about the adoption agencies, and "baby brokers" and others making money from, and taking advantage of poor families/women in a bad situation.

Here's a short biography of Angelina Jolie, including a little blurb about how the "adoption facilitator" she used to adopt her son, has been sentenced to jail time for visa fraud and money laundering. You have to wonder what other illegal activities she was involved in, and got away with. These are probably the only charges that stuck.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelina_Jolie

In the fall of 2004, it was reported that Jolie has started proceedings to adopt another child, this time from Russia. However, no adoption ever took place.

Around the same time, Lauryn Galindo, the Hawaii-based adoption facilitator whose services Jolie had used to adopt Maddox, was sentenced to 18 months in prison after pleading guilty to visa fraud and money laundering charges. She had been falsifying records of children to be adopted in visa applications to the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, and several of the children she placed had not been abandoned at all but were enticed away or bought from their birth families. It does not appear that Maddox was among them, although the investigation is continuing.

As a mother myself, I cannot imagine either giving away my baby, or the horrible position the child's grandmother found herself in. Poor. Her daughter dead. If her grandaughter stays with her, she'll starve to death.

I don't believe she wanted for her grandbaby to be adopted, either. This is the problem I have with foreign adoptions. I'm not saying all of them are rotten, but I do believe that in some countries, like Korea and China, it's a business.

I know people don't like to think of adopting as "buying" a child, but that's exactly what it is. Especially in poor countries where everything isn't above board, and the power distribution isn't even because one party has all the money.

If Angelina Jolie isn't careful, she'll end up like Mia Farrow.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mia_Farrow

:) Sierra