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paranoid 06-07-2009, 11:32 has anyone seen this yet?!...
MJ's Ghost Video (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2518485/Fans-claim-that-Michael-Jacksons-ghost-has-been-spotted-at-Neverland.html)
Classic Rock 06-07-2009, 12:05 Please can you offer your thoughts or make a comment. Posting just a link is not permitted. This thread is in danger of being removed unless you add your thoughts.
syrenna96 06-07-2009, 13:57 wow, Thats spooky
they always said he will be back well there u go he is
sheffield_uk 06-07-2009, 13:59 load of rubbish...its just a shadow....fake.
syrenna96 06-07-2009, 14:01 Well Thats You Opinion But My Opinion Is Its Real
But Everyone Has Different Views
sheffield_uk 06-07-2009, 14:02 I suppose u do get those sort of believers.... :roll:
wonder why he went back there after he died as he didnt live there before he died
did he?
The world is gonna end soon too...
syrenna96 06-07-2009, 14:03 Yeah Well It Looks Real And I Think It Is So Yeah You Do Get Those ''Sorts'' Of Belivers
& them sorts of ''not belivers''...........
Ousetunes 06-07-2009, 14:03 It's in 'The Sun'.
Next....,
syrenna96 06-07-2009, 14:04 Yeah It Is In The Sun True True..
sheffield_uk 06-07-2009, 14:05 Yeah It Is In The Sun True True..
I stand corrected...its in the SUN
Its true i tell you,its true :loopy:
syrenna96 06-07-2009, 14:06 Okayy Then
But all i sed was i think its true which i still do it looks it so ....
sheffield_uk 06-07-2009, 14:09 ''not belivers''
sed
try spelling lessons instead of reading the sun...
paranoid 06-07-2009, 14:10 to be fair, it doesn't matter if it's in The Sun or The Financial Times! They've only posted the link to a video - it's not their story
however, i think it's the shadow from someone walking past the object which appears to be a lamp shade at the end of the hallway
AndyLonsdale 06-07-2009, 14:10 Quick, let's get Derek Acorah over there, i could do with a good laugh.
Imagine the camp scouser "possessed" by the spirit of Jacko......
syrenna96 06-07-2009, 14:11 Ohh Get A Life Would You Instead Of Picking Up on every little mistake this isnt school on here you know.If you was my teacher at school then yes but not on here and i didnt even read the sun i just looked on the link
sheffield_uk 06-07-2009, 14:12 Only winding you up :)
Its probably the next jackson money making scheme.....
scary visits to haunted neverland..
syrenna96 06-07-2009, 14:13 Quick, let's get Derek Acorah over there, i could do with a good laugh.
Imagine the camp scouser "possessed" by the spirit of Jacko......
Lol Spirit of jacko in his home
could be a good tourist attraction .
syrenna96 06-07-2009, 14:13 Only winding you up :)
Okayy Then.
syrenna96 06-07-2009, 14:16 Only winding you up :)
Its probably the next jackson money making scheme.....
scary visits to haunted neverland..
Could be a good attraction though,
probably would try and go myself lol
sheffield_uk 06-07-2009, 14:18 They could reopen the fairground too....
pattricia 06-07-2009, 14:18 load of rubbish...its just a shadow....fake.
I agree, also the playing of the eerie music is ridiculous.:rolleyes:
syrenna96 06-07-2009, 14:18 Well Would Make Alot Of Money
The Next Alton Towers lol
syrenna96 06-07-2009, 14:21 http://3dnews.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/michael_jackson_home.jpg
I mean Look At it Could Make A Few Bob On That
has anyone seen this yet?!...
MJ's Ghost Video (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2518485/Fans-claim-that-Michael-Jacksons-ghost-has-been-spotted-at-Neverland.html)
Yes I have seen it. It scared me.
donuticus 06-07-2009, 16:49 It is a slightly altered version of a magic trick developed by Andrew Mayne. It can be purchased from his website for about $20. It is the same trick that was in The Sun's last ghost video.
syrenna96 06-07-2009, 18:40 It is a slightly altered version of a magic trick developed by Andrew Mayne. It can be purchased from his website for about $20. It is the same trick that was in The Sun's last ghost video.
Well It COuld Be A Money Making Scheme But It Looked Pretty Real
Dont know what to belive now lol
Not as active as in his 'live' performances.
syrenna96 06-07-2009, 18:58 okayy then.
Kingmaker2 06-07-2009, 19:09 I agree, also the playing of the eerie music is ridiculous.:rolleyes:
Yep can't believe anyone is taking this seriously:!:
The dumb music gives it away!:rolleyes:
It's just like all those other "ghost" or "Alien" videos shown on youtube with "The X files" soundtrack playing in the background.
If someone thinks they really have observed a ghost, either captured on their own camera, or that of a TV camera the last thing the that he/she is going to do is add some silly sound track!:rolleyes:
If anything it's just a marketing ploy, just imagine how many fans will flock and pay good money to go try and catch a glimpse of "Jackson's" ghost!
it looked good but there are so many things one can do now with computer technology it makes you wonder if it is trickery.
I would love to think it wasnt, but i think it proberbly is just trickery :(
It could go on the 'Most scary Haunted House film' thread :D
Kingmaker2 06-07-2009, 19:16 Well Thats You Opinion But My Opinion Is Its Real
But Everyone Has Different Views
syrenna, let's say you observed a similar "ghost" figure on a live tv broadcast that you were recording.
Now what would you do?
show the original video and perhaps add your own commentory on when and where the ghost appears.......or do you add a silly sound track:confused:
Kingmaker2 06-07-2009, 19:17 it looked good but there are so many things one can do now with computer technology it makes you wonder if it is trickery.
I would love to think it wasnt, but i think it proberbly is just trickery :(
It could go on the 'Most scary Haunted House film' thread :D
If it's a genuine sighting then there wouldn't be the added soundtrack music.
discovery 06-07-2009, 19:27 I can't see anything in the video really to be able to comment however I had the most whacky dream about him the other night.
I dreamt I was speaking to him and he gave me 3 tickets, top class seats to one of his concerts. They were green in colour. Next thing I was in a car park and some kids snatched the tickets from my hand and put them into a pasta machine. :o The 3 tickets then came out at the other end as green pasta quills which left me screeching my head off at the kids! :loopy:
paranoid 06-07-2009, 21:02 If it's a genuine sighting then there wouldn't be the added soundtrack music.
i don't get all the fuss about the soundtrack! don't you understand that someone has just added the cheesey soundtrack afterwards for the effect? i'm sure there'll be other footage online without the soundtrack
imo, there's no trickery involved. i just reckon it's a shadow from someone else walking down the corridor at the end of the room
Kingmaker2 06-07-2009, 21:58 i don't get all the fuss about the soundtrack! don't you understand that someone has just added the cheesey soundtrack afterwards for the effect? i'm sure there'll be other footage online without the soundtrack
imo, there's no trickery involved. i just reckon it's a shadow from someone else walking down the corridor at the end of the room
Errr..... the added soundtrack is pretty key, .......don't you get it:confused:
If there is genuine footage of what someone believes to be a ghost you don't need to add any cheesy soundtrack for effect:rolleyes:
Now dig up that footage without the sound track then.......... if you are sure it exists!
Kingmaker2 06-07-2009, 22:20 Now dig up that footage without the sound track then.......... if you are sure it exists!
Actually I'll do it for you.
This is the actual original CNN footage without the stupid sound effects:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0jNWsSU7iU
It's much clearer:
Watch at 4:41 and you can clearly see in the door slit that people are moving about in the hall way , and then you see the lighting or camera set up in the far end of the hall, and then you see clearly the shadow of someone that is there perhaps working on the lighting or the camera.
The first clip of the blurry shadow you posted is silly, the original CNN video doesn't look like anything "ghostly" or "out of the ordinary"
Actually I'll do it for you.
This is the actual original CNN footage without the stupid sound effects:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0jNWsSU7iU
It's much clearer:
Watch at 4:41 and you can clearly see in the door slit that people are moving about in the hall way , and then you see the lighting or camera set up in the far end of the hall, and then you see clearly the shadow of someone that is there perhaps working on the lighting or the camera.
The first clip of the blurry shadow you posted is silly, the one original CNN video doesn't look like anything "ghostly or out of the ordinary"
Absolutely agree with you. This is quite clearly a shadow.
WhiteHawk 06-07-2009, 22:31 Actually I'll do it for you.
This is the actual original CNN footage without the stupid sound effects:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0jNWsSU7iU
It's much clearer:
Watch at 4:41 and you can clearly see in the door slit that people are moving about in the hall way , and then you see the lighting or camera set up in the far end of the hall, and then you see clearly the shadow of someone that is there perhaps working on the lighting or the camera.
The first clip of the blurry shadow you posted is silly, the one original CNN video doesn't look like anything "ghostly or out of the ordinary"
Couldn't be any clearer, quite obviously a shadow.
paranoid 06-07-2009, 22:58 Actually I'll do it for you.
This is the actual original CNN footage without the stupid sound effects:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0jNWsSU7iU
It's much clearer:
Watch at 4:41 and you can clearly see in the door slit that people are moving about in the hall way , and then you see the lighting or camera set up in the far end of the hall, and then you see clearly the shadow of someone that is there perhaps working on the lighting or the camera.
The first clip of the blurry shadow you posted is silly, the original CNN video doesn't look like anything "ghostly" or "out of the ordinary"
i don't want to argue, but all you've done is basically agree with what i said in my previous posts i.e. it looks like a shadow & the original footage doesn't have the cheesey soundtrack
Kingmaker2 06-07-2009, 23:10 i don't want to argue, but all you've done is basically agree with what i said in my previous posts i.e. it looks like a shadow & the original footage doesn't have the cheesey soundtrack
Nope not really.
The Sun clip is blurry and whoever added the cheesy soundtrack clearly didn't watch the CNN footage properly or else wanted it appear to be much more "ghostly" than the original footage shows.
If you read my comments I didn't say the footage was tampered with, but just that the Sun footage with soundtrack makes it unlikely to be a genuine ghost, now as the CNN footage shows it's genuine alright.......a genuine normal shadow:rolleyes:
upinwath 06-07-2009, 23:20 Well Thats You Opinion But My Opinion Is Its Real
But Everyone Has Different Views
It's very much real. Well the video is anyway.
On line sales are starting to drop off now the false outpouring of grief is fading so a daft ghost video should help remind a few people to buy a few more bits of MJ stuff.
Next there will be a 'Ryanair' false story that his nose is on ebay. :rolleyes:
I can't see anything in the video really to be able to comment however I had the most whacky dream about him the other night.
I dreamt I was speaking to him and he gave me 3 tickets, top class seats to one of his concerts. They were green in colour. Next thing I was in a car park and some kids snatched the tickets from my hand and put them into a pasta machine. :o The 3 tickets then came out at the other end as green pasta quills which left me screeching my head off at the kids! :loopy:
Doesn't green represent heaven?
Kingmaker2 06-07-2009, 23:36 It's very much real. Well the video is anyway.
On line sales are starting to drop off now the false outpouring of grief is fading so a daft ghost video should help remind a few people to buy a few more bits of MJ stuff.
Next there will be a 'Ryanair' false story that his nose is on ebay. :rolleyes:
What about the wild prediction reported on SkyNews and elsewhere that Jackson was about to become the only artist in history to take all top ten slots in the UK singles charts!
After the first UK singles chart after his death Jackson filled exactly zero of the top ten single slots.
And yesterdays new chart still only saw Jackson fill 2 places in the top ten (Man in the Mirror No.2 and Billie Jean No.10)
So much for the hype!
Not to mention SkyNews reporting that 500 million applications had been made for the free memorial tickets.
It tuns out that only a half to 1.6 million applications had been recieved (And that figure included multiple applications!)
paranoid 06-07-2009, 23:47 Nope not really.
The Sun clip is blurry and whoever added the cheesy soundtrack clearly didn't watch the CNN footage properly or else wanted it appear to be much more "ghostly" than the original footage shows.
If you read my comments I didn't say the footage was tampered with, but just that the Sun footage with soundtrack makes it unlikely to be a genuine ghost, now as the CNN footage shows it's genuine alright.......a genuine normal shadow:rolleyes:
man you're uptight, i only posted it for a chat but you always get one don't you? :hihi:
one of your original comments was...
"The dumb music gives it away!"
in response, all i said was the soundtrack was added afterwards for effect, or in other words, why does a cheesey soundtrack added afterwards (by the sun or whoever) mean that the ghost's not real?
you went on to say...
"Now dig up that footage without the sound track then.......... if you are sure it exists!"
after a quick google, you obviously found that the footage did actually exist and quickly posted a reply to your own message where you started to change the subject! i never said that you said the footage had been tampered with! it's quite funny actually
and finally, i said from the start that the 'ghost' appears to be a shadow imo
anyway, i'm not going to waste my time arguing with you as you appear to be one of those guys who'll go on all night about it
Kingmaker2 06-07-2009, 23:53 man you're uptight, i only posted it for a chat but you always get one don't you? :hihi:
Who's uptight!
I said it was a naff video (The Sun clip) and the music gave it away.
Now what exactly are you arguing about?:confused:
all i said was the soundtrack was added afterwards for effect, or in other words, why does a cheesey soundtrack added afterwards (by the sun or whoever) mean that the ghost's not real?
I think I already answered that one!
If you believe you have seen a genuine ghost on video then it's highly unlikely that you add a cheesy soundtrack, instead you might just add your own commentary explaining to the viewer just when and where the "ghost" appears.
discovery 07-07-2009, 08:19 Doesn't green represent heaven?
I don't know.
I just put it down to the fact that I'd been watching him on TV all week but I thought the dream was absolutely ridiculous... but then, I have a lot of really bizarre dreams of late.
They could reopen the fairground too....
oh no, what a freaky place 'Neverland' sounds...sounds more like the scene for a Steven King novel...:gag:
What about the wild prediction reported on SkyNews and elsewhere that Jackson was about to become the only artist in history to take all top ten slots in the UK singles charts!
And yesterdays new chart still only saw Jackson fill 2 places in the top ten (Man in the Mirror No.2 and Billie Jean No.10)
So much for the hype!
'ONLY' . . . I'd say having two previously released hits in the top 10 is a fantastic achievement!
On the U.S Billboard charts MJ has the top 8 of the top 10 sales!
As for the ghost... it even looks like it's wearing the old trademark fedora too :D
That's not Michael Jackson's ghost. His earth-bound spirit has obviously manifested itself here (http://cbs13.com/local/michael.jackson.tree.2.1072797.html).
Gogetter 07-07-2009, 12:40 it's not a ghost - it's just a man in the mirror....... :hihi:
even after death it sounds like Jackson is still putting the willies up young boys. :hihi:
even after death it sounds like Jackson is still putting the willies up young boys. :hihi:
Wondered how long it'd take before that joke was posted . . . . :gag::loopy::loopy: sigh.. never let you down do they.
al_partridge 07-07-2009, 13:14 If that's Jacko's ghost it's a rubbish moonwalk.
I think I'd be far less scared about spending the night in an allegedly haunted Neverland than I would be about letting my child spend the night there when he was alive...
AndyLonsdale 07-07-2009, 14:05 I wonder if they can get his ghost to fulfill his 50 show commitment?
Kingmaker2 07-07-2009, 14:41 'ONLY' . . . I'd say having two previously released hits in the top 10 is a fantastic achievement!
On the U.S Billboard charts MJ has the top 8 of the top 10 sales!
Yes but in the context of post the word "ONLY" is pretty apt.
We were told that Jackson was about to make history by filling ALL top ten singles slots in the UK and that was supposed to be the Sunday after his death.
To have zero in the first week and a "ONLY" 2 in the second week is pretty much a damp suib given that "music experts" were expecting it so history making huge.
Yes but in the context of post the word "ONLY" is pretty apt.
We were told that Jackson was about to make history by filling ALL top ten singles slots in the UK and that was supposed to be the Sunday after his death.
To have zero in the first week and a "ONLY" 2 in the second week is pretty much a damp suib given that "music experts" were expecting it so history making huge.
Not only that but they were his first singles to get into the top ten for over ten years, which to say he claimed to be the "King Of Pop" is a bit pathetic.
As MJ had clearly long ago run out of ideas, maybe dying was "a great career move", as the old cliche goes.
AndyLonsdale 07-07-2009, 14:51 who bought these songs anyway? and why? surely all his fans have his stuff anyway, and don't need to buy them again
upinwath 08-07-2009, 04:13 'ONLY' . . . I'd say having two previously released hits in the top 10 is a fantastic achievement!
On the U.S Billboard charts MJ has the top 8 of the top 10 sales!
Fantastic achievement, I agree. The promoters and agents have done a fine job of hyping him to the point where a load of people who already own the records have bought them again. :loopy:
It's not often these people get a chance to exploit the gullible public so much so they have hammered it to death while they were in for a quid or million.
LibertyBell 08-07-2009, 05:22 Yep can't believe anyone is taking this seriously:!:
The dumb music gives it away!:rolleyes:
Yeah, the dumb music is the real give away....:hihi: :rolleyes:
simplymel 08-07-2009, 05:51 id like to think its real but i think its fake, doesnt seem quite right.
paranoid 08-07-2009, 07:39 as of this morning he's got 13 singles in the top 40. 2 in the top 10 and i wouldn't be surprised if they sell more after last nights memorial service
there are 8 of his (or the jackson's) albums in the top 40, 5 of which are in the top 10
predictions are only opinions. no matter how you look at it, that's impressive
Whatif wewin 08-07-2009, 08:16 Please can you offer your thoughts or make a comment. Posting just a link is not permitted. This thread is in danger of being removed unless you add your thoughts.
That is one of the most crass statements yet!
The poster is asking for comments, asking for debate this is a forum right?
The poster needs to show the incident (link) to allow others to talk about it.
Why do you say the poster's thought have to be added under threat of removing the thread?
Power seems to have gone to your head.
Has deceased pop icon Michael Jackson returned from the dead to haunt his fans? Yes, if video shots taken at the singer's 2800-acre Neverland ranch is to be believed.:rolleyes
http://woodenspears.com
Kingmaker2 09-07-2009, 21:10 For all those still convinced it was Micheal Jackson's ghost this should finally put it to bed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y3jlzS_BZc
CNN explain that it was just someone from either their own crew or from another network walking in front of a lighting fixture.
Kingmaker2 13-07-2009, 10:51 as of this morning he's got 13 singles in the top 40. 2 in the top 10 and i wouldn't be surprised if they sell more after last nights memorial service
Looks like you were wrong, as of yesterday charts (12 July 2008 ) Jackson has now actually fewer singles in the top 40.
Jackson has now singles 10 in the top 40, and only one in the top ,10 Man in the Mirror, down one place to No.3.
The previous top ten single Billie Jean drops from 10 to 21.
paranoid 13-07-2009, 12:42 my post was 5 days ago. what's your point? to be honest, you're clearly one of those people who always has to have the last say. congratulations, you've won because you've bored me to death. argue with yourself mate
Kingmaker2 13-07-2009, 18:32 my post was 5 days ago. what's your point? to be honest, you're clearly one of those people who always has to have the last say. congratulations, you've won because you've bored me to death. argue with yourself mate
My point is that you aren't half as smart or "in touch" with things as you like to make out.
That's borne out in many of your recents posts, now that's truely boring.:mad:
flowergirl 09-08-2009, 19:24 For all those people on here who do not like MJ yet are fixated on spending their time commenting on someone that they do not like, I suggest you see a therapist. Allow those who do like him to speak freely, it should not matter to you. Its very unhealthy to be that obsessed with someone or something you dislike? It usually arises out of gelousy or a dislike of self.
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