View Full Version : Suncream (or lack of it) in schools


bladesbird
24-06-2009, 15:46
How is everyone else managing with their children at school and applying suncream ???

My daughter is only 4 and every morning I put suncream on her. I take her sun hat and suncream to school...thats as far as it goes.
Now I know teachers can't apply suncream but surley they can tell the child to apply it.:suspect:

My daugter came home yesterday with burnt arms legs and blisted ears. Today she's come home with sunstroke...after yet again spending all day in the sun.:rant:

I'm at a loss as what to do. Any advice would be much appreciated:D

Gannon
24-06-2009, 15:51
Tell her to stay indoors?

Berberis
24-06-2009, 15:51
Did you wear all theses sun creams when you where young?

Your daughter is 4 and spending all day outside in the sun? But you say she is at school not working on a farm. How is she outside the whole time she is at school?

Also, sunstroke is not prevented by sun cream, it is casued by high temperatures.

Oatez
24-06-2009, 15:52
Teachers mop up a grazed knee and soothe a wasp sting, so why not protect a child from getting sunburned?

Jason Bourne
24-06-2009, 15:57
Teachers mop up a grazed knee and soothe a wasp sting, so why not protect a child from getting sunburned?

And risk the wrath of the anti-peado rentamob :roll:

x

scargill
24-06-2009, 15:59
Teachers mop up a grazed knee and soothe a wasp sting, so why not protect a child from getting sunburned?

Not every child falls down and gets injured, how long would it take to apply suncream to a class of 25 children?
Buy a decent all day long suncream with a factor of 40 and this will cover breaks and lunchtime with no burning. Ensure there clothing is light but covering the key parts and ensure your child knows to wear a hat. Otherwise call into school at lunchtime and apply more cream.

Take some responsibility for your children.

bladesbird
24-06-2009, 16:00
Did you wear all theses sun creams when you where young?

Your daughter is 4 and spending all day outside in the sun? But you say she is at school not working on a farm. How is she outside the whole time she is at school?

Also, sunstroke is not prevented by sun cream, it is casued by high temperatures.

She's in f2 (as she's only 4) and they spend as many hours outside as possible.

Plus the last 2 days have been get stuck in days - which is why she's been outside all day.

Thanks for the advice - NOT:rant:

bladesbird
24-06-2009, 16:03
Not every child falls down and gets injured, how long would it take to apply suncream to a class of 25 children?
Buy a decent all day long suncream with a factor of 40 and this will cover breaks and lunchtime with no burning. Ensure there clothing is light but covering the key parts and ensure your child knows to wear a hat. Otherwise call into school at lunchtime and apply more cream.

Take some responsibility for your children.

I asked this and was told they discourage this as it disrupts the childrens day.

I do take responsibilty for my daughter, hence asking for advice - good god what a mistake that was.

Gingerchick
24-06-2009, 16:05
Both my kids are fair haired so I apply factor 50 really thickly. It usually works. I tell both of them that they must wear there hat outside aswell. Does ur daughter take a water bottle to school to help prevent her from dehydrating.

Oatez
24-06-2009, 16:05
Not every child falls down and gets injured, how long would it take to apply suncream to a class of 25 children?
Buy a decent all day long suncream with a factor of 40 and this will cover breaks and lunchtime with no burning. Ensure there clothing is light but covering the key parts and ensure your child knows to wear a hat. Otherwise call into school at lunchtime and apply more cream.

Take some responsibility for your children.

I really don’t think its time that is the issue, but rather, like so many other things in modern life, the fear of being sued/accused/blamed, if a child has a allergic reaction to a sun-cream.. Or even if a child accuses an adult of hurting them when applying the cream!..

I would say those are the main issues!

Oatez
24-06-2009, 16:07
I asked this and was told they discourage this as it disrupts the childrens day.

I do take responsibilty for my daughter, hence asking for advice - good god what a mistake that was.

I really would not listen to the individual telling you to take responsibility, as its obvious you already do!

bladesbird
24-06-2009, 16:07
Teachers mop up a grazed knee and soothe a wasp sting, so why not protect a child from getting sunburned?

So true...if she was reminded by her teacher she would apply it herself, as I've taught her how, but they won't even do that.

bladesbird
24-06-2009, 16:08
Both my kids are fair haired so I apply factor 50 really thickly. It usually works. I tell both of them that they must wear there hat outside aswell. Does ur daughter take a water bottle to school to help prevent her from dehydrating.

Yes she always as her water bottle and its usually all gone.

shanes teeth
24-06-2009, 16:13
I asked this and was told they discourage this as it disrupts the childrens day.

I do take responsibilty for my daughter, hence asking for advice - good god what a mistake that was.

People have given you advice.What advice did you expect,other than go in at lunchtime to apply suncream,wear a hat,cover up with clothing,stay inside.

Oatez
24-06-2009, 16:20
Just to make you all aware; Dr Juliette Loncaster, skin cancer consultant at Christie Hospital in Manchester, said "Applying sunscreen before school will unfortunately not provide adequate protection all day".

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-189126/Sun-cream-ban-school.html

Karis
24-06-2009, 16:22
And risk the wrath of the anti-peado rentamob :roll:

x

Not aimed at your comment but this is insanity. I mean: the world has just gone overly sensitive if a teacher can't apply sun cream to a child's arms for fear of abuse charges being thrown at them.

Oatez
24-06-2009, 16:23
I would advise all parents who are concerned to approach their child/rens school and ask weather they would be willing to apply sun-cream, in accordance with administration of medicine policy and guidelines!

The Chavs
24-06-2009, 16:26
I use an all day sun cream with my kids and have never had a problem. Mine like P20 but Im sure there are loads on the market now and with different factors.

With schools, they also know the risks. Even if children are out all day they know the importance of sun protection and will work in a shaded area or at least moved to the shade for breaks from the sun etc. They should also encourage children to take water bottles outside and this does happen at my kids school.

PS/ My kids hate having sun cream on and I hate the process of putting it on them. If I was a teacher I would not want to ensure all children in the class had sun cream on before each session outside etc. My youngest is at nursery and they do it so only an issue at school.

PSS/ I agree with schools not putting it on but the op mentioned her little one was visibly sun burnt and had blisters. I would personally have a word with the school. A teacher/assistant should have seen this and prevented it in my opinion. If children arent protected they should have facilities for those children to be out of the sun or for parents to be contacted.

funfamily
24-06-2009, 16:34
Ridiculous - our F2 class keep their bottles in school and the TA puts in on for them if they're going to be outside for a long period.

ormester101
24-06-2009, 16:42
howmany people where sun tan cream in the uk ? at school of course the youngsters should wear it australian kids do and they have floppy hats on . yes australia is hotter but at this time of year the sun is so hot .

Brunette
24-06-2009, 16:45
I use the Once stuff from Boots on my daughter before she goes to school - and it does last all day.

blondebint
24-06-2009, 16:49
Can i ask how you know the teacher isn't reminding children to apply sun cream/ put sun hats on- maybe its your daughter just not bothering- although at 4 i can understand it being quite a hefty responsibility. I am a teacher and i always tell children to apply their cream or wear their hat- unfortunately most children don't have either. So yes i do feel the school need to take some responsibility although asking them to apply suncream is definately not the answer- totally impossible. However at our school the children are kept out for half an hour then moved back in to the classes as the shade is inadequate. Yes it seems a shame to keep them in but we would rather be safe than sorry. If your F2 teacher is keeping them out all that time knowing they havent got the protection then they are being irresponsible in my view, the outdoor provision should be monitored accordingly.

big_g
24-06-2009, 16:51
I can see why teachers won't apply sunscreen. You have to take appropriate action yourself then.

Whack on a decent sunscreen first thing. Send your child to school with a decent hat that covers ears and neck. Also ensure that your child has a long sleeved, loose, light top - don't want to overheat her.

As others have said, bottle of water.

Most important, have a word with the teacher and if she/he won't proactively protect your child by telling her to apply their own sunscreen and stick on their hat and top, write to the head. A teacher should protect children in their care - I'd be very worried about the fact that they allowed a child out in hot sun for so long. The sun is about as high as it can get just now.

G

duckweed
24-06-2009, 16:51
I think you should use a high factor waterproof and teach your child to stay in the shade at noon in the shadows. You can buy a sunblock on a stick which you can teach your child to reapply to sensitive areas. I did this with my fair skinned daughter and she never had sunburn. And of course buy her a hat that has a long piece at the back to shade her neck. or add a piece to a baseball cap.

Minimo
24-06-2009, 17:06
This puzzles me.
When we were kids we were off to the parks all day every day during the long summer holidays.
Sunscreen was unheard of, nor was there a fuss about covering up and wearing hats, except perhaps for babies.
We didn't get burned and I have not heard that there is a high incidence of skin cancer among this age group.

Why is it such an issue now?

The Chavs
24-06-2009, 17:13
We didn't get burned and I have not heard that there is a high incidence of skin cancer among this age group.


I can certainly remember getting burnt!!!! So bad one time I screamed if so much as a cotton sheet touched my back!

mrseggy
24-06-2009, 17:24
This puzzles me.
When we were kids we were off to the parks all day every day during the long summer holidays.
Sunscreen was unheard of, nor was there a fuss about covering up and wearing hats, except perhaps for babies.
We didn't get burned and I have not heard that there is a high incidence of skin cancer among this age group.

Why is it such an issue now?


Sadly i do remember getting burnt most summers while playing out!

I use the boots soltan factor 40 once, so far we have had no problems, they also have floppy hats and i tie their hair half up to protect they backs of their necks.:thumbsup:

Hope your daughter is OK, sun burn sucks :(

Gannon
24-06-2009, 17:42
Just leave them too it, you get burned now and again but you learn your lessons.

kizzyadd
24-06-2009, 18:30
Think its a health n safety thing why they cant put cream on them as they dont know if the child/person could be alergic to it thats also why now a day you cant have plasters in the first aid box as the person may be alergic too it.

stressconsul
24-06-2009, 18:32
This puzzles me.
When we were kids we were off to the parks all day every day during the long summer holidays.
Sunscreen was unheard of, nor was there a fuss about covering up and wearing hats, except perhaps for babies.
We didn't get burned and I have not heard that there is a high incidence of skin cancer among this age group.

Why is it such an issue now?

Big old hole in the ozone layer mabe makes the sun more dangerous.

bladesbird
24-06-2009, 18:39
Thanks for all the advice :D

I actually wasn't aware of all day suncream, so after paying a visit to my local chemist and investing in some, problem sorted :thumbsup:

mrseggy
24-06-2009, 18:43
Thanks for all the advice :D

I actually wasn't aware of all day suncream, so after paying a visit to my local chemist and investing in some, problem sorted :thumbsup:


Great stuff :thumbsup:

Brix 13
24-06-2009, 18:57
Thanks for all the advice :D

I actually wasn't aware of all day suncream, so after paying a visit to my local chemist and investing in some, problem sorted :thumbsup:

Hiya bladesbird, unfortunately you do get the odd poster wanting a quarrel :loopy: Just ignore and read the positives. Unfortunately teachers and assistants aren't allowed to apply suncream. I would advise as the other person said, to buy a little protector stick for her to keep at school. I think it shouldn't be a problem for teachers to remind children to reapply their cream but the majority of the class possibly won't have any to use. Don't see why parents cant sign a form allowing their child to wear suncream applied (by a fine spray) by a member of staff. I think your best bet would be to buy either p20, or another all day cream. Most good makes now do a once a day sun protector. To the other poster: No there hasn't been a rise in cases of skin cancer in this age range, unfortunately only time will tell in their later life. Good luck and remember posters, this child is 4 years old and hardly able to remember to keep applying cream during the day. :roll:
p.s. she should also be able to refill her water bottle throughout the day - our school can. We also have a drinking water tap in both school yards

The Chavs
24-06-2009, 20:41
Thanks for all the advice :D

I actually wasn't aware of all day suncream, so after paying a visit to my local chemist and investing in some, problem sorted :thumbsup:

Well done. If you take out some posts you can actually learn something on here and get real advice.

Just a warning, make sure you read the label on the all day ones. I know for
p20 which mine use you shouldnt top up with other types so dont send with a roll on stick or anything. Also need to apply a set time before going out in the sun. Im sure they will all be different.

sixer
24-06-2009, 22:33
Glad you have got this sorted

duckweed
25-06-2009, 07:19
I am quite astonished when I see people with babies who are sunburnt. Sunburn is a burn. Every year people have to go to hospital because they are ill from sunburn. I have 2 children who have very dark brown eyes and do not burn easily but my daughter is like me light coloured eyes blonde and light skin. I have always been especially careful with her. Would you throw scalding water at a child so she would learn about hot water. I did get badly burned when a child and remember the agony. There weren't the sunblocks then and my grandparents weren't careful enough and me and my brother got burned. I still remember the agony. I would not wish that on any child.

Corbyn
25-06-2009, 08:32
Glad to hear that a solution to the problem has been found. On the subject of suncream has anybody had any experience of being allergic to it? I have always found it irritating to my skin as I have quite bad eczema at times. However I don't really burn whilst walking about only if I sit out in the sun which isn't something I really enjoy doing anyway. I can also just avoid putting the cream on certain areas like the inside of my elbows and I get on ok.

My son is 2 and has quite nasty eczema on his arms and legs. He is so irritated by the suncream that the eczema he has flares up and then the rest of his arms and legs develop an itchy bumpy rash which can take days to clear up.

I've tried different makes and they are ones which are supposed to be for sensitive skin like Boots Sensitive and Simple. The Boots one causes less issues than others but he is still allergic to it. Has anybody else had this problem and found a cream that didn't irritate their/their childs skin?

Thanks.

cosywolf
25-06-2009, 12:36
The only way I've found is mainly keep my youngest out of the sun, Corbyn. So far he hasn't had a very bad reaction to the suncream, but it does seem to make his excema worse, so I'd prefer to avoid it. He either wears loose long-sleeved/long-legged clothes or wears shorts but is kept constantly in the shade. He's outrageously fair - where on earth did that come from? The rest of us are quick to go brown. (I always wanted to be a milky-white fairy princess as a child, lol, and hated my olive skin.) He also has a big hat with a strap to keep it in place. At 2 it's a lot harder, I do remember, and it seems unfair to keep them in...hence the light but covering clothes.
Thankfully my older one is more like me, and no excema, so sun cream and a hat and he's fine for a couple of hours. Much easier.

My mother used to kick me out the door and tell me to go get some colour - my, how things have changed...:P