hey there i am not a big fan of orbs in genral but this orb realy interested me more!

take a look and tell me what you think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD7hxNExxtw

some people class orbs as ghosts.. i dont.. it is also known its the first sign of a manifestation, however i do not
believe this and i know the common cause for orbs,

which is dust, water, rain, flys / insects, and ect..

However i dont know what to think of this orb...


*btw if someone could tell me if its possible to add youtube vids on the post. instead of posting links thanks. *

Its a dust particle that happens to be within 4 inches of the lens...

Load of old bo..cks!!!

...However i dont know what to think of this orb...
Don't think of it as an orb. Think of it as a sign.

It's a sign that you need to put on your rational head and investigate the interaction of atmospheric particles with camera lenses, and other such photography artefacts.
...*btw if someone could tell me if its possible to add youtube vids on the post. instead of posting links thanks. *
You can't embed images and videos in the main forum. Links only.

hmmm, so much scepticism!! may well be no scientific explnrtion, prticles etc. maybe rotherhm pranormal should have a look to give there view on it too, even if you dont take it seriously its worth it just to see their oppinion.

It’s a dust particle floating close to the lens and badly out of focus. It doesn’t pulse it just moves away from the lens and so gets a little more in focus and reduces is size. The reason is looks to change so quickly is due to the frame rate the camera is capturing the image.

its funny how ghosts and orbs are always captured on the crappest equipment. Just like those twisters, these orbs are just a consequence of the limits of camera technology.

hmmm, so much scepticism!! may well be no scientific explnrtion, prticles etc. maybe rotherhm pranormal should have a look to give there view on it too, even if you dont take it seriously its worth it just to see their oppinion.
I'd sooner get a photography expert to have a look at it rather than a group of people from a paranormal group who will come to it with the preconceived notion that ghostly phenomena exist.

The blob in that video is no different in origin from the swirling clouds of dust that make Yvette whatsit go 'ooooooh' when they're using the night vision cameras.

yes i do agree with you on that, but like i said its worth it just to see their oppinion as that is what the op was asking oppinions, thoughts etc. sometimes not everything is logical and scientific. like i said scepticism.

oh and i think its funny when yvette goes ooooh and arghhhhhhh! even funnier when derek acorah does that "thankyou sam" line. lol

Dust, anyone, a bit of dust?! (think Little Britain!)

It’s a dust particle floating close to the lens and badly out of focus. It doesn’t pulse it just moves away from the lens and so gets a little more in focus and reduces is size. The reason is looks to change so quickly is due to the frame rate the camera is capturing the image.

its funny how ghosts and orbs are always captured on the crappest equipment. Just like those twisters, these orbs are just a consequence of the limits of camera technology.


haha if only you saw our equipment it is not crappy i can tell you that, that is one of many camera's what was roling on the night, the more camera's u have the less frame you have.

anyway thanks for your input all :D keep them comming :D

haha if only you saw our equipment it is not crappy i can tell you that, that is one of many camera's what was roling on the night, the more camera's u have the less frame you have.

anyway thanks for your input all :D keep them comming :D

I wasn't commenting on your equipment, more a general comment on the hundreds of pieces of footage I have seen over the years.

Tell me why are you recording in 4:3 and not in HD?

yes i do agree with you on that, but like i said its worth it just to see their oppinion as that is what the op was asking oppinions, thoughts etc. sometimes not everything is logical and scientific. like i said scepticism.

oh and i think its funny when yvette goes ooooh and arghhhhhhh! even funnier when derek acorah does that "thankyou sam" line. lol

What about the Mary loves Dick escapade :hihi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZCChwZL17A

Your equipment IS crap if the IR unit for the night vision mode is too close to the lens... Dust orbs are far more of a common occurance when this is the case...

What about the Mary loves Dick escapade :hihi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZCChwZL17A

Thankyou sam! sorry i meant serapis!

i love that, still makes me giggle all this time after lol.
i was involved in the security when they filmed the live show in blackpool, was an eye opener to say the least.

its funny how ghosts and orbs are always captured on the crappest equipment. Just like those twisters, these orbs are just a consequence of the limits of camera technology.

I am not too sold on the idea of orbs and think orbs are the least convincing "evidence" of ghosts....rather like lights in the night sky are the least convincing of alien spacecraft.

That said though the person who does shoot some genuine footage of perhaps a chair shooting across on it's own accord,
(I've seen a particularly good one shown on TV) is in a no win situation.
Skeptics will immeadiately point to a hoax.
If the footage quality is poor then it will be argued by the skeptic that it's not clear enough to be worthy of investigation, If one the other hand the image is crystal clear then it must be a hoax or camera manipulation.:(

Sigh. Another blow to humanity's claim to sentience.

...That said though the person who does shoot some genuine footage of perhaps a chair shooting across on it's own accord,
(I've seen a particularly good one shown on TV) is in a no win situation.
Skeptics will immeadiately point to a hoax.
If the footage quality is poor then it will be argued by the skeptic that it's not clear enough to be worthy of investigation, If one the other hand the image is crystal clear then it must be a hoax or camera manipulation.:(
Indeed. What's the simplest possible explanation of a 'paranormal' phenomenon viewed on a video? That's it's smoke and mirrors.

If you want to convince a quite reasonably sceptical world that such paranormal phenomena exist, then you are going to have to come up with something other than ambiguous video footage and photography.

Why is this phenomena never reproducible? If it takes place at a supposedly haunted location, then I presume you wouldn't argue for a one-off event; it should be reasonably reproducible. Similarly, if the chair moving video is presented as evidence for telekinesis, then surely that should be reproducible under controlled conditions.

People are sceptics because convincing evidence is non-existent.

People are sceptics because convincing evidence is non-existent.

Be fair though, Hecate.

Such studies keep the "paranormalists" off the weekend streets during and after the pubs/clubs close. ;)

Orbs Schmorbs

'nuff said.

always has to be a scientific explanation then

always has to be a scientific explanation then

My personal view is that there is a scientific explaination for everything. That is not to say that we know everyting, or can explain everything currently. There may be (probably are) some things that or science cannot yet explain. This does not mean that they are "supernatural", no more than lightning was "supernatural" before scientific advances expplained it.

i agree, its just some on here have views that its there way or no way, i am a sceptic, but an open sceptic.

My personal view is that there is a scientific explaination for everything. That is not to say that we know everyting, or can explain everything currently. There may be (probably are) some things that or science cannot yet explain. This does not mean that they are "supernatural", no more than lightning was "supernatural" before scientific advances expplained it.

If we forget about orbs and more on the subject of ghosts, I happen to think that ghosts are a perfectly natural phenomena as opposed to "Super"natural, that is to say that they do exist, but it is all part of nature which as we already know is very complex and mysterious.

I don't think it totally inconcievable, that one day, science will understand exactly what ghosts are, but that day is probably a fair few centuries away.

I wasn't commenting on your equipment, more a general comment on the hundreds of pieces of footage I have seen over the years.

Tell me why are you recording in 4:3 and not in HD?


ok let me clear up. i made a few easy mistakes here. this was captures on a cctv recorder, i had multiple camera on, sadly the cctv system isnt HD. High def, although it is Hard drive.

the footage i had to capture the scence was in Mys file format is u heard of it.

i recently got a computer harddrive software for cctv camera's which may inprove quality, and inprove frame rates.

and to let everyone know i never said this was a ghost or anything i just asked for your thoughts and views. thanks for your comments

haha if only you saw our equipment it is not crappy
Really, then why can I see compression artifacts? Oh and don't blame youtube seeing how is supports HD.

i can tell you that, that is one of many camera's what was roling on the night, the more camera's u have the less frame you have.
...congratulations within this one sentence alone you have demonstrated a lack of knowledge about cinematography.

ford i just sayed on my last post it isnt HD. things dont need to be hd to be good or crap...

and the quote about multiplu camera's i mean..... multiple cctv camera.. and it does slow down the frame rate on my cctv system with more cctv camera's u use the less frame rate you will have. and that isnt lack of knowledge... its what it says on my instruction sheet on the system... so u cant tell me i am wrong lol.

if anyone doesnt want to comment on the video then dont comment at all please... i am only asking for your thoughts on what i have got... and i am feeling like i have to defend my self for what????

lol

ford i just sayed on my last post it isnt HD. things dont need to be hd to be good or crap...
Right and? There are compression artifacts, no things don't need to be HD, but if you recorded it on a high quality camera then there is no reason the video should not be better quality, as it stands its pretty dismal.

and the quote about multiplu camera's i mean..... multiple cctv camera.. and it does slow down the frame rate on my cctv system with more cctv camera's u use the less frame rate you will have.
You make this admission yet earlier you say "haha if only you saw our equipment it is not crappy". Two things come to mind, a dropping of frames tend to prelude to something crappy, CCTV cameras tend to usually have a bad resolution and colour depth.

and that isnt lack of knowledge...
Evidently it is, if you claim not to have crappy equipment and you are coming our with a video of that quality

its what it says on my instruction sheet on the system... so u cant tell me i am wrong lol.Evidently, I can.

Lee, what is your opinion of the television programme 'Most Haunted?' Mine is very low.

Lol.

nigel, i dont like it haha. i can watch it... tho.

Lee, what is your opinion of the television programme 'Most Haunted?' Mine is very low.

What get's me is if Yvette & Carl experience ghosts in some form espcially those "one knock for yes, 2 knocks for know" variety in every single location they visit, then how come the likes of Yvette is so so jumpy and screams like a banshee. After 10 years it it? of constant contact with ghosts, you'd think Yvette would be so use to them by now, that no ghost phenomena would make her scream like she does.

I would really love to see The Most Haunted team go into a "Live" show and after the full 3 days with there with NO activity whatsoever and for the Most Haunted team to say, sorry guys, but this time we couldn't find any ghosts.
But that's NEVER going to happen.:(

When "Ivvy" does that Native Indian chant before setting off that sound charger type thing.......all credibility is lost . It's entertainment at its lowest level....and I watch Big Brother lol .

I’m sorry but after reading lee's response to the question about the quality it seems the title of this thread should read:

Alleged pulsating flashing orb caught on low quality CCTV camera.

The above would be more factual but then I suppose there would be less sensationalism wouldn’t there.

As someone with an open mind I find these kinds of blatant attempts to try and portray something as fact, which is easily shown as at best speculative or at worst complete rubbish, rather sad.

Could the OP be wishing for more in an after life because apparently he doesn't have much of a present life?

I've met a few spirit types and they do seem to be wishing for something more than their own dull existence. It's not an orb, it's wishful thinking.

I have a few orb pics they are from my night in shall add links there on me fb

i took 61 pics this night and these 3 are only ones with them on found it odd.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2512505&id=584741346

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2512505&id=584741346#/photo.php?pid=2512507&id=584741346

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2512505&id=584741346#/photo.php?pid=2512508&id=584741346

I have a few orb pics they are from my night in shall add links there on me fb

i took 61 pics this night and these 3 are only ones with them on found it odd.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2512505&id=584741346

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2512505&id=584741346#/photo.php?pid=2512507&id=584741346

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2512505&id=584741346#/photo.php?pid=2512508&id=584741346

Dust, dust and err dust :)

lol i have a very good life thank you. haha well if it isnt a flashing orb... what is it... Orb doesnt actually mean ghost.. or anything i am saying what i am seeing,... which is a orb.. i am not saying the cause tho. i am leaving that upto you.

Orbs are something of a mystery, usually captured on cameras, depending on the quality of their CCD chip.

Lee, I'm presuming you're from a paranormal investigation team?

Reg Reader, you come across as slightly hostile in your reply, but i'm afraid it is an Orb. Before you begin patronising folk, please look up the meaning of an Orb:

"They are defined as a luminous phenomenon usually in the shape of balls or irregular patches of light".

When taken in the short context of this video, the said item, whether dust, or microscopic flying insects, does show an irregular patch of light, in the shape of a ball.

To those who belittle the equipment Lee has used, I do not know Lee, so do not know of his background, or financial situation, but I presume he is in a self funded paranormal investigation team.

Therefore, suggestions of 'getting HD' and 'dropping of frames makes something crappy', if money does not allow, then you have to buy the best equipment you can afford.

Orbs are commonly:

Dust
Microscopic insects
Water

Thousands of experiments have been undertaken to try and establish the exact science of Orbs, but it still largely remains a mystery. I've taken hundreds of pictures at the same time on different cameras and have caught an Orb in one picture and not the other.

I happen to work with one of the most respected paranormal investigation teams in the country (i'm a sceptic before you say anything) and I have seen some things that would scare the crap out of you - including the movement of seemingly 'intelligent' Orbs

thanks for that ! :D