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Tony1
12-07-2005, 19:29
Just a quick note to all the people that have got tinted windows, I have just finished taking my drivers and passengers side tints out as I was pulled by south yorkshire police this morning as you have to have 75% VLT (visual light transmission) coming through the window and my tint was only letting in 23% hence the removal. The police say that they are clamping down on the front 2 windows being tinted and you can recieve a 30 quid on the spot fine.

Does anyone know how to get the adhesive off the window as the tint has left a residue. I have tried nail polish remover, white spirits and some B&Q adhesive remover wipes.

spyro2000
12-07-2005, 19:56
Do the polive let you drive away with the tints still on, or do they tell you to collect the car once the tints have been taken off?

spyro2000
12-07-2005, 20:05
Originally posted by nitelife40
they show you it can be taken off and they advise how ....then they give ya a ticket...well they did my son!

Yeah but do you need to take it off there and then, or do they let you carry on driving with the illegal tints?

Cols
12-07-2005, 20:20
Only £30 fine. Should be £300
As a motorcyclist I think they are the most dangerous thing on the road. You need eye contact when riding/driving, something the black window brigade prevent. That's why I never let a car out at a junction that has black windows :rant: :rant: :rant:

Tony1
12-07-2005, 20:23
They let me drive away givin me a pink note which i had to sign stating a time that i had to have the tints off by which was 10pm tonight.

With the baby oil does it have to be watered down? and do i use hot or cold water??

Cyclone
12-07-2005, 20:26
why not just put legal tints in the first place, it's not like you didn't all know that heavily tinting the front side windows was illegal.

ps - no tints in current car, but will have the semi silvered halfway up ones put in when I get an s2k.

Tony1
12-07-2005, 20:29
As legal tints are just clear film. didnt know you could just have tints half way up?? you can have the back 3 done but not the front 2

Tony1
12-07-2005, 20:37
What about if i have taken the tint off allready and am left with the the adhesive on the window, will it still work

ADC_28
12-07-2005, 20:39
Originally posted by Cols
Only £30 fine. Should be £300
As a motorcyclist I think they are the most dangerous thing on the road. You need eye contact when riding/driving, something the black window brigade prevent. That's why I never let a car out at a junction that has black windows :rant: :rant: :rant:

This is true. However, black visors on motorcycle helmets, whilst technically not entirely legal, have had a blind eye turned to them for a long time, so long as you're not riding at night.

OK, it's easier to ascertain if a motorcyclist has seen you because his/her body-language is more readable but they have the same intimidatory effect on other road users.

I often notice people getting out of my way and driving a lot more meekly when I've my black visor on.

Twiglet
12-07-2005, 20:45
Originally posted by Tony1
What about if i have taken the tint off allready and am left with the the adhesive on the window, will it still work

Yup, and if you don't have any baby oil I would imagine furniture polish would also work a treat, as it does on any sticky label residue left on stuff e.g. from price labels.

spyro2000
12-07-2005, 20:47
Well I shall be getting my car fully tinted with the front windonws both FULLY blacked out. Its my choice. If I get pulled I get pulled, I shall take the risk. I dont see why its illegal anyway. Some people wear dark shades which is a lot worse. I can see out of tinted windows fine enough without any problems, plus it helps protect against theft.

Tony1
12-07-2005, 20:48
just tried baby oil from the bottle and the stuff aint movin it :(

Drut
12-07-2005, 21:12
Any sort of solvent will do and a very sharp blade.

I have all the rear tinted on mine keeps the sun out of the dogs eyes;)

joyphil
12-07-2005, 21:12
Try alchohol, of the surgical variety. And a beer for you for your efforts.

bostonaire
12-07-2005, 21:20
cheap brands of baby oil dont work! not suggesting youre using cheapo brand .....try buying some elbow grease and mix it with the baby oil !:D
the person who insisting hes having tints regardless.. to be truthful mate. ive had a coupla near misses in the car my son had with tints..esp at dusk!!!!. youd be surprised how much of a hinderance it is..

claycraft
12-07-2005, 21:38
Originally posted by spyro2000
Well I shall be getting my car fully tinted with the front windonws both FULLY blacked out. Its my choice. If I get pulled I get pulled, I shall take the risk. I dont see why its illegal anyway. Some people wear dark shades which is a lot worse. I can see out of tinted windows fine enough without any problems, plus it helps protect against theft.

After reading some of your recent posts spyro I'd have thought you would have been trying your upmost to avoid more Police attention:huh:

Yes some people wear dark shades but these can be removed when light conditions deteriorate. Tint film cannot.

Don't get me wrong, as a bike rider I wear a tinted visor which is not BSI approved. However if I choose I can take my clear visor with me and change them when the light dims.
I have worn a standard approved/legal visor and ended up totaly dazzled by low sunlight.
Not fun. :shocked:
I wear the tinted (irridium) visor for my own safety and that of other road users.:wink:
Should I get my collar felt so be it, I'd continue to wear it for the above reasons.
The annoying part of the law is that I could no doubt wear a BSI approved clear visor with a pair of welders goggles beneath:loopy:but I like living, hence I dont.
See and be seen:thumbsup:

spyro2000
12-07-2005, 21:42
Originally posted by claycraft

Yes some people wear dark shades but these can be removed when light conditions deteriorate. Tint film cannot.



ahhh yes, but I can put the windows down just like people can remove their shades. As long as I can see out the car what is the problem really. :)

As for me not wanting police attention, well I suppose you are right, but im getting rid of my car now anyway as that seems to be the cause of all the problems.

Anyway, I think this is a bit off topic so ill leave it for people to help our lad with his trouble getting the adhesive off (which I know nothing about) :heyhey:

saxon51
12-07-2005, 21:53
Originally posted by spyro2000
Well I shall be getting my car fully tinted with the front windonws both FULLY blacked out. Its my choice. If I get pulled I get pulled, I shall take the risk. I dont see why its illegal anyway. Some people wear dark shades which is a lot worse. I can see out of tinted windows fine enough without any problems, plus it helps protect against theft.

Ages ago I heard that other reasons for the 'full tint' ban were so that the driver could be identified, whether a mobile was being used, and that seat belts were being worn - when only front ones were compulsary.

claycraft
12-07-2005, 21:54
Originally posted by spyro2000
ahhh yes, but I can put the windows down just like people can remove their shades. As long as I can see out the car what is the problem really. :)


True, but I would say it all concerns split second observations, not winding down the window whilst sat a junction etc:wink:

spyro2000
12-07-2005, 21:58
Originally posted by saxon51
Ages ago I heard that other reasons for the 'full tint' ban were so that the driver could be identified, whether a mobile was being used, and that seat belts were being worn - when only front ones were compulsary.

Now that makes sense.

Cheers :thumbsup:

melthebell
12-07-2005, 22:04
i dont even own a pair of sunglasses mate :P

Nathen
12-07-2005, 22:15
try wet newspaper.
They use white spirits to keep the ink on the page.

Greybeard
12-07-2005, 22:34
Windows 98SE here, - what you might call 'tainted' windows :D

And I'm as deeply suspicious of cars with tinted windows as I am of teenagers with their hoods up and tough looking young men in sunglasses on dull November days :suspect:

Cyclone
13-07-2005, 06:10
forum eat my post last night.

I had written something like.

Tony1 - you said yourself that VLT needs to be 75%, thus you can put 25% tints on your front windows.
Halfords sell 2 different levels of tinting film just for that purpose, one is really dark, and the other just darkish and legal.
I'm sure the commercial companies that do tints can do different grades.

The silver stuff I was trying to describe (badly) is a tint that goes to the top of the window, but the silver effect fades out from the bottom to the middle, after the middle the window is just dark, not silvered. Hope that's a bit clearer than my first attempt to describe it.

Tony1
13-07-2005, 17:47
Used lots of Mr Sheen and plenty of elbow grease (thanks nitelife) and a window scraper and the stuff came off a treat.

I get ya now on te silver effect, dont think it would go on a red corsa though, although i will check halfords out this week for the legal tint!

Thanks for all the help and advice











Always a pleasure, never a chore

Cyclone
14-07-2005, 09:45
yeah, might not look right against red.
I'm after a silver Honda S2000, so the silver tint on the windows would be a closer match.
Have to check its transmission though....

Cyclone
14-07-2005, 10:03
just found some info on the silvered tint. Unfortunately the highest vlt they do is 40%, which is too low to be legal on the front windows.

http://www.moonrakerfilm.com/fader.htm

for more info and examples.

Nathen
14-07-2005, 11:17
TBH, I'm after some tints on my car, and i'm going for a light smoke all round, because my car is bright yellow, i'm hoping its going to look darker than it is.

Though, I do consider it to be an invasion of privacy. I've seen loads of tints that are dark on the outside, but perfectly clear from the inside.

Cyclone
14-07-2005, 11:39
Originally posted by Nathen
TBH, I'm after some tints on my car, and i'm going for a light smoke all round, because my car is bright yellow, i'm hoping its going to look darker than it is.

Though, I do consider it to be an invasion of privacy. I've seen loads of tints that are dark on the outside, but perfectly clear from the inside.

that must be some sort of magic then as i can't see how it's possible within the laws of this universe.

what exactly is the invasion of privacy?

spyro2000
14-07-2005, 11:45
Originally posted by Cyclone
that must be some sort of magic then as i can't see how it's possible within the laws of this universe.

what exactly is the invasion of privacy?

It is possible son. Ive seen it myself. I dont know how its done, but it can be done.

As for the Invasion of Privacy, Im also confused :confused:

Cyclone
14-07-2005, 11:54
i suppose it is possible actually, it's not that the laws of the universe just changed, i just thought it through a bit more thoroughly.

If the tint was effectively a one way only pass for light, light would go into the car, but no light would come out of the car.
This would give you normal vision out, but no vision in.

However i'm not sure that we can actually make glass or plastic film with those properties.

Nathen
14-07-2005, 12:10
Its an invasion of privacy, what if you don't want to be looked at, or see what your doing.

Cyclone
14-07-2005, 12:15
Originally posted by Nathen
Its an invasion of privacy, what if you don't want to be looked at, or see what your doing.

you mean when you're in your car?
It's your choice to be in public, that's like saying it's an invasion of privacy if someone looks at you when you're walking down the street.

spyro2000
14-07-2005, 13:05
Originally posted by Cyclone

However i'm not sure that we can actually make glass or plastic film with those properties.

I assure you it can be done, ill see if I can find a link for you. It was on Top Gear years ago when it 1st came out and I think its pretty reasonably priced now as its been out for a while. They 1st had it on some thunderbirds car if I remember rightly and it was filmed going round the streets on top gear.

Cyclone
14-07-2005, 13:16
google seems to suggest that creating a one way effect is only possible using a silvered film.
If the interior of the car is then kept dimmer than the outside, it will be impossible to see inside.
However from the inside there is still a tinting effect, quite a strong one in fact, down to 10% vlt, so no where near legal.

Here's a whole forum dedicated to window tinting (how sad are these guys).

http://www.tintdude.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/f152.html

spyro2000
14-07-2005, 13:20
lol, very sad indeed. God knows how you can have a whole forum dedicated to tinting

jpow112
14-07-2005, 16:13
I agree with previous poster re cars with front windows tinted. if I'm coming up to a side road with someone wanting to be let out, if I've got eye contact with them I might well wave or flash, and they'll smartly come out. if I can't see that they're looking at me, it's not worth my while flashing and slowing just in case they might be looking my way.

It must occur to the owners of tinted cars that they never get let out of side roads- must be really annoying until they realise what the problem is. it's not malicious, it's just practical. as someone said, you can detect a motorcyclists body language, so not such a problem.

John

spyro2000
14-07-2005, 18:02
Originally posted by jpow112
I agree with previous poster re cars with front windows tinted. if I'm coming up to a side road with someone wanting to be let out, if I've got eye contact with them I might well wave or flash, and they'll smartly come out. if I can't see that they're looking at me, it's not worth my while flashing and slowing just in case they might be looking my way.

It must occur to the owners of tinted cars that they never get let out of side roads- must be really annoying until they realise what the problem is. it's not malicious, it's just practical. as someone said, you can detect a motorcyclists body language, so not such a problem.

John

Yes, but im sure you know as well as I do that you shouldnt rely on people flashing you, you would fail if this was a driving test. The only person you should trust is yourself, so to say that tints should be illegal because of the lack of body language is IMO nonsense. I was once flashed by a driver at a junction, then for some reason he decided to go anyway, nearly causing a major crash.