Don't ge me wrong, I'm not saying that they shouldn't but I can't understand the logic of it at all.

Are they any worse off than your average old aged pensioner? I don't think so.

Does payment involve an extra strain on their mobility? I don't think so.

So why do they not have to pay like the rest of the population?

Must be somethin to do with the fact that getting about is much more difficult for a disabled person ie getting on and off buses. It is a bit frustrating that we have to pay an arm and a leg but I think that disabled people are definitely entitled to free and convinient parking

I am blue badge holder.and i can not anwer this question ither.

but i get asked this a lot since i got mine last year.and it always the people that got to pay for parking that got this problem.when at end of the day it not the blue badge holders falt for getting free parking,but it dont half make me laff that the people that got to pay offers me a lift into town so they dont have to pay.but i do not use my badge like this.i use it when i need to go out and about.


befor i got my badge it never botherd me why disabled people never payed for parking or tax on cars.it just the way it is.

maybe someone got the answer to this,but i wish people stop haveing a go at people with blue badges as end of the day it not the person falt they got free parking.

i think the tax & parking could be for different reasons.
free tax i think was originally implemented because permenant disability often results in a reduced income,good idea even though i know it does get abused by a few.
free parking i think is really to facilitate closer access where those not quite as active don't have to try rushing back with loads of shopping in the allotted 20 minutes.
never given it athought b4 this post, but u should make the most of it 'cos everybody else would.

Originally posted by spinny
I am blue badge holder.and i can not anwer this question ither.

but i get asked this a lot since i got mine last year.and it always the people that got to pay for parking that got this problem.when at end of the day it not the blue badge holders falt for getting free parking,but it dont half make me laff that the people that got to pay offers me a lift into town so they dont have to pay.but i do not use my badge like this.i use it when i need to go out and about.


befor i got my badge it never botherd me why disabled people never payed for parking or tax on cars.it just the way it is.

maybe someone got the answer to this,but i wish people stop haveing a go at people with blue badges as end of the day it not the person falt they got free parking.

I agree, but I am a blue badge holder, never had a problem with other blue badge holders before I got mine. I do have a problem with people looking at me as if to say 'you're not disabled' though. What do they know - just cos i'm not in a wheelchair

Disabled people do get a good deal at the end of the day. I'm 17 got a brand new micra for free - though it's not really free. I can't work outside of college because of my disability so I got DLA but I don't get that anymore and get the car instead. I passed my test aged 16 because I was disabled and don't pay tax or insurance.

However, I would much rather be fit and healthy and able to use the bus.

I think the reason we get free parking - though not in all areas - is because I would take the bus but can't. Others can take the bus if they want to avoid charges.

I too wish people would leave disabled people alone - I've never received any discrimination apart from this. When people found out I was taking my test at 16 and then when I got my car it was 'oh you're so lucky' oh yeah? You have the disability I'll take the bus!

Sorry for ranting, but it bugs me I'm afraid!

I think the reasoning is a combination of two things. Firstly being disabled can significantly reduce your income - either through being unable to work, or being discriminated against by employers. But secondly it can be argued that for many disabled people there is no real alternative to getting around other than by car. The rest of us can usually choose to use public transport as an alternative yes, it may be inconvenient, but usually you can do at least part of your journey by public transport), hence you get charged to park a car in busy areas/peak times, whereas some disabled people may find public transport difficult or even impossible to use. Therefore they don't get charged for parking, because they have no choice in whether or not they use a car.

Thanks banesmabes,

That's what I meant and I'm glad you see it that way. I'm not having a go at Mo. Just othr people.

I have an 'invisible disability' where I find it difficult to walk but am not always in a wheelchair.

When I park in disabled squares people look at me like I'm ripping off the good people who provide us with blue badges!

I hate it, but I want to confirm, I'm not having a go at anyone on this thread.

Originally posted by banesmabes
I think the reasoning is a combination of two things. Firstly being disabled can significantly reduce your income - either through being unable to work, or being discriminated against by employers. But secondly it can be argued that for many disabled people there is no real alternative to getting around other than by car. The rest of us can usually choose to use public transport as an alternative yes, it may be inconvenient, but usually you can do at least part of your journey by public transport), hence you get charged to park a car in busy areas/peak times, whereas some disabled people may find public transport difficult or even impossible to use. Therefore they don't get charged for parking, because they have no choice in whether or not they use a car.

Thanks for that. What you say seems a very sensible and logical explanation.

Why some of you are throwing a wobbly I can't imagine.

I asked an innocent question without any malice intended so why any was taken I don't know.

Originally posted by Mo
Thanks for that. What you say seems a very sensible and logical explanation.

Why some of you are throwing a wobbly I can't imagine.

I asked an innocent question without any malice intended so why any was taken I don't know.

I'm not throwing a 'wobbly' at you Mo.
I stated that very clearly.

I'm 'throwing a wobbly' at others and explained I was having a rant because people look at me as if I have no right to be disabled or something daft.

So sorry if I offended you with 'throwing a wobbly' I'll try to control my tantrums from now on!

edit to add - after re-reading your post. There were some sarcastic sounding questions in there however, I didn't take any offence from it first time round! I do object to being told I'm throwing a wobbly though. I told you I was having a rant at other people and not you!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Lotti
[B] I do have a problem with people looking at me as if to say 'you're not disabled' though. What do they know - just cos i'm not in a wheelchair




I too get this look to lotti.im not in a wheelchair like one of my freinds are.i can walk but im to on dla.and i was put on it to get better for an accident i had.and it is as i tell all people that it is hard to get onto dla,but i get looks like to say "you can walk why do you need a badge". but i too get fed up of these looks.

disabled does not mean to be in a wheelchair.it can also be a mental problem.

I used to wonder why too, but thinking about it, it does make perfect sense due to the likelihood of reduced income, and also that the blue badge holder has no option but to use a car to get about. I've never had a downer on badge holders though - my father used to get umpty about it but now he has one himself he's changed the way he thinks. Some days he can walk miles, but on others he struggles, so he needs the pass nowadays.

Having used a wheelchair briefly myself for a while, you do need to use a car to get about unless you've got strong arms for hauling yourself onto buses, and even then it's restrictive as not all routes have the new vehicles. The great thing I found was that even though I was only temporarily a wheelchair user, places like Meadowhell and supermarkets were happy to let whoever was driving me park in the disabled spaces, as they have their own 'blue badges' which you can use.

blue badge holders & oap's deserve all the help they get.
mother with young children however don't need special access "close "to shops.

sorry we've had that post b4,loosing my mind(lol)

Mathom,

Just like your dad, I can walk quite well some days and other days I can't at all.

I didn't know that about Meadowhall tho! that's great!

Originally posted by Lotti
I'm not throwing a 'wobbly' at you Mo.
I'm 'throwing a wobbly' at others and explained I was having a rant because people look at me as if I have no right to be disabled or something daft.

I can understand how upsetting that is Lottie. My mum was entitled to a badge (can't remember now if it was blue or orange back in 2001) & sometimes people would give us very accusatory looks on the rare occasion I drove her into town. She was 65 & didn't look ill if you didn't know her.

I'm not prone to losing my temper but there were times when I wanted to ask people if they'd feel a lot better about her entitlement to the disabled parking space if they knew she was terminally ill.

That said, before mum was ill I had no idea that terminally ill people are entitled to this 'concession' so it wouldn't have occured to me as a possibility either.

Originally posted by Mo


Are they any worse off than your average old aged pensioner?

If and old age pensioner is classed as disabled, they are also entitled to a disabled badge, if they are able to get about they are not, so in that respect it is fair.

My dad has a disabled badge, initially because he has slow heart failure and can't walk far without getting very out of breath and turning interesting shades of grey.
He's recently needed it more because his hips disintegrated (he's still only 58!!!!) and he had a double replacement. The advantage that free parking offers him is that he can still get out of the house and go to the library/supermarket/wherever but instead of usuing public transport which he always used to, he now needs a car, the cost of this is offset by the free parking. The ability to park (though it is often only for a limited time and in certain places) on double yellow lines etc means he can get closer to the places he needs to be at without haing to fight through crowds or exhauset himself before he gets there.

He fought long and hard to get a disabled badge as even the disability people didn't see heart failure as needing special concessions!!! So its not as easy as it would seem to get one of these badges and it annoys me when people obviously misuse them!!!

anyway i'll stop ranting now :D

Em

disabled ppl get dla
they are on a lot of money and its not fair that the people who are worse off have to pay when the people who have plenty dont have to pay the ritcher get ritcher and the poorer get poorerl

Originally posted by Mo
Thanks for that. What you say seems a very sensible and logical explanation.

Why some of you are throwing a wobbly I can't imagine.

I asked an innocent question without any malice intended so why any was taken I don't know.

But you didn't ask "an innocent question". You asked three questions, and answered two of them yourself! Care to read your original post again, and you might just notice why some posters were throwing a wobbly.......
Originally posted by Mo

Don't ge me wrong, I'm not saying that they shouldn't but I can't understand the logic of it at all.

Are they any worse off than your average old aged pensioner? I don't think so.

Does payment involve an extra strain on their mobility? I don't think so.

So why do they not have to pay like the rest of the population?


Your first two questions appear quite derisory, and the repetition of "I don't think so" comes over as brusque. Maybe that's why some posters got 'wobbly' with you?

from what i understand there is strict critereia to obtain a blue badge - i don't think we should begrudge disabled persons being able to park close to where they need to be free of charge - the cost of this is probably taken into account when assessing benefits - as a country we all contribute to pay for this - i don't begrudge this - after all those who are now moaning may be glad of it themselves one day (though hopefully not). the people who hold such a badge will have genjuine health difficulties, hence why i do not begrudge them - it is the malingerers who can't get their arse out to work that i begrudge - AND the mother and child spaces - a mother and child are not incapacitated - why encourage kids to be even more lazy

Originally posted by sunshiner
disabled ppl get dla
they are on a lot of money and its not fair that the people who are worse off have to pay when the people who have plenty dont have to pay the ritcher get ritcher and the poorer get poorerl

Disabled people MAY be on dla, but that money gets eaten up very, very quickly, when you have finished paying it out on care, and transport. (it's usually completely, or almost completely taken, if the person decides to have a vehicle using their allowance. Also, the care component gets taken up by paying out for home help/care, etc so one can't even rob peter to pay paul, so to speak.)

From where I live, it's £4.00, each way to the nearest bit of town, in a taxi. (I can't drive, nor do I have someone who can drive me) So, before my local bus service went "wheelchair friendly"... if I wanted to go into town, it was a minimum of £8 a day, return.

If I'm doing that, five days each week, that's costing more than I get in my allowance....

Also, I may, currently have the option of travelling into town and back on access buses, but what about the times when I have to travel somewhere which isn't served by access buses? not every route is accessible, so I *still* have to rely on taxis...

PT

Just adding this to point out to mo that persons on disability benefits who are under pension age, do not, currently, get a free tv license, nor do we get the winter fuel payments that pensioners get. (if you are blind, you get a small reduction on your tv license)

so, yes, we are, often, worse off than pensioners!

PT

Originally posted by Plain Talker
Just adding this to point out to mo that persons on disability benefits who are under pension age, do not, currently, get a free tv license, nor do we get the winter fuel payments that pensioners get. (if you are blind, you get a small reduction on your tv license)

so, yes, we are, often, worse off than pensioners!

PT

Point taken PT, but I must remind you that not all pensioners qualify for free tv licence. My mum is 74 as she still has to pay for hers. After she has paid all her dues and demands she has approx £15 a week to live on for food, clothes, entertainment (aint a lot is it?)

And Red for the record, I don't begrudge the elderly and the disabled any 'benefits' or perks. I believe in a society which should look after such people and allow them to live a dignified life.

I just (in my ignorance perhaps, because I don't have any experience of people with disabilities) wondered why the free parking.

I now know.

My mother is a blue badge holder,but she doesnt own a car.So what she does is carry it in her bag,so if either me or my brother take her anywhere,we can get her close to wherever she wants to go.
Last Saturday,me and Mrs Heed took her to Asda.No disabled bays were free,so I put my car into a "parent and child" space.When we were loading the car up after shopping,this bloke walked past carrying a small child.As he walked past,he muttered something about me not having any kids,and should be clamped for parking in 'his'space.
If he had hung around,I would have pointed out that I was with a disabled person.He and his family are more thanm capable of walking.

And as a joke,I would have also pointed out I ws with my mother!!

Also bear in mind that people who get a blue badge due to mental impairment ( maybe autism) often are entitled to one because of the risk they pose to others- ie unpredictable behaviour in traffic, car parks etc. The closer you can park to where you need to get to makes all the difference.

Originally posted by Mo
Point taken PT, but I must remind you that not all pensioners qualify for free tv licence. My mum is 74 as she still has to pay for hers.


She will get one next year - they are only free to over 75s.

I too have a blue badge.

I would much rather not have the blue badge.

I would like to be fit and not have to rely on

I would rather not have needed it in fact I would give anything not to have needed it.

I didn't realise it gave parking free--- only parking in free areas anyway.

hazel

Originally posted by sunshiner
disabled ppl get dla
they are on a lot of money and its not fair that the people who are worse off have to pay when the people who have plenty dont have to pay the ritcher get ritcher and the poorer get poorerl Well if was a choice between the money or the disability i know that they would prefer to be healthy.Think your self lucky your not disabled:rant:

to those people out there about the child spaces
ok
imagine
this u have just had a child u have bin cut here there and everywhere trust me u try it its hard u try having to do it because u cant get any1 else to do it for u they dont get any extra money and they are as i shud imagine and as i have been myself at a state which would i am sure to many mothers of newborn children in a state that most people would class as in a way dissabled for a short while of time if u have a mental dissability like autism as i have several members of family that are autistic they have care often family members which there is a carers allowence for a friend of mine is autistic and is on more money that me my partner and my child are on between us for a week every week
my partner is suffering from savior depression and myself have a new child that his incapable of looking after himself yet i am still being forced into work which is impossible so dont call us lazy because half the time the circamstances are beyong controll but others think we are lazy because they arnt going through the same thing on 88 a week for myself and partner it covers me for rent tv licence electric food and travel once a week if we are lucky and may i just say u try getting on a pram when there are stupid people with toddlers nothing on there prams and seats at the side of them which the children are more than capable of being sat on the seet and the pram foulded down
i dont have any luxuries my partner doesnt eather everything that my daughter has i have had to buy second hand so dont tell me lies
pt in your circamstances and others in the same situation this doesnt comply as what u have to deal with i can understand is very difficult please people get back to me and tell me what u think of my views

sorry getting on a buss not a pram sorry but some things that have bin said got me so angry

by the way dee i have twisted muscles in my arms and my legs somtimes i have to use a wheel chair i am very lucky to be alive whilst in childbirth i was told i had a 50 50 chance of making it
but yet i am still refused dla as i dont have this problem 365 days a year now tell me do u think thats fair

Originally posted by sunshiner
by the way dee i have twisted muscles in my arms and my legs somtimes i have to use a wheel chair i am very lucky to be alive whilst in childbirth i was told i had a 50 50 chance of making it
but yet i am still refused dla as i dont have this problem 365 days a year now tell me do u think thats fair

Let's get this clear, because you don't get DLA you begrudge others getting it. How sad.

My only advice to you would be to appeal the decision not to grant you DLA. Then try not to be so bitter that other people do receive it when you obviously don't qualify for it.

Originally posted by sunshiner
by the way dee i have twisted muscles in my arms and my legs somtimes i have to use a wheel chair i am very lucky to be alive whilst in childbirth i was told i had a 50 50 chance of making it
but yet i am still refused dla as i dont have this problem 365 days a year now tell me do u think thats fair No i dont think its fair but i dont make the rules.Im sorry you cannot get dla but i dont think you should begrudge people who do get it.Not everyone on DLA are as rich as you think.

Originally posted by dee40
No i dont think its fair but i dont make the rules.Im sorry you cannot get dla but i dont think you should begrudge people who do get it.Not everyone on DLA are as rich as you think.


That is so true.as im on dla.and it depends on what rate you get i-e. mobilty or care that is low mid high rate.
i get high rate care and low mobilty as that what im in need off.and we not rich as i agree with pt.you have to pay for care and that not cheap at most times,unless you can get a family member to help you and they get payed out of your money.i know a friend who on high rate on both care and mobilty and married and got a car (not out of the dla) and still struggle with paying things out.

im sorry but it sound like sunshine you must not have a good doctor to back you up in first place to get you on it,as i know my sisster did not get dla for many years as her doctor did not state her illness right in the first place.but soon as she change doctors and got the support she was put on dla.

i suppose if there dissabled they need to be able to park close, but are some of these safe on the road?

The disabled one isn't always the driver.

hazel

ok, just sometimes they are when ive seen them

Originally posted by sbrrakp
i suppose if there dissabled they need to be able to park close, but are some of these safe on the road?

I know pleanty of disabled driver that are not able to walk and are very good drivers.i not seen no car crash with disabled people at all.maybe someone has but i have been in more knocks in a car with a able body driver and not one with a disabled driver..and you ask are some of these safe on the roads,.do you know disbled people take test to drive or something.i think more able bodied people need to re do the test were SOME not all drive.

im not saying every1 who gets it doesnt deserve it but when u see poeple who are clearly not in need of it it saviorly gets on my nerves expessially when u see them using the money they recieve for the most stupid of things that i myself couldnt affored even if i saved for numerouse monthes

Originally posted by sunshiner
im not saying every1 who gets it doesnt deserve it but when u see poeple who are clearly not in need of it it saviorly gets on my nerves expessially when u see them using the money they recieve for the most stupid of things that i myself couldnt affored even if i saved for numerouse monthes


And may i ask you who you class as does not deserve it.
do you know that you can be abled bodied and still get dla and also work on dla..im not in a chair nor is my other friend but we in the catogory to have dla.if i was not i wont be on it.
some people who have mental health problems are on dla as that class as disablity..also very bad dipression is i know i been on with it.but just becuase some people dont look like they should not be on it not your place to say..they got granted that dla as they fit into the needs to get it...and what ever they want to spend they money on is up to them.you can say same thing about people on dole.they spend it on what ever they want to.and how do you know that some of that money not goin for help of that person.

Originally posted by sunshiner
im not saying every1 who gets it doesnt deserve it but when u see poeple who are clearly not in need of it it saviorly gets on my nerves expessially when u see them using the money they recieve for the most stupid of things that i myself couldnt affored even if i saved for numerouse monthes

So please tell us more about how you can see if people deserve to get DLA, go on tell us it will be interesting to see your reasoning.

i know a few people who are claiming benifits basicly screwing the system and working on fiddle if u understand what i meen i dont believe this is right some of these people of which i know of are on dla as well and this i believe is wrong

do u understand what i meen im not saying every 1 but a select few i myself would love to go back to work but at this moment in time am unable but the job centre is forcing me by saying they will stop my money unless i do its a long unjust and corrupt system

what i would call a just system is for them to recognise different peoples situations myself and my partner have gone through hell and back with finances due to things beyond our controll and resulting in this he is suffering with savior depression suicidal tendancies and self harms if the system was a little more fairer then a lot of peoples problems not all would be easily rectified if we hadnt had these problems i believe my partner wouldnt be having these problems that he is suffering with at this moment in time which is causing savior strain on our life
i just wish that

I COULD LIVE A LIFE NOT JUST EXIST

Sunshiner, I can understand your frustration but you can't judge others because you don't get it.

It does depend a lot on your doctor and what the doctor says to try and get you DLA.

Your first post was very ignorant. I'm 17 and disabled. I have a severe condition called Klippel Trenaunay Syndrome. Sometimes I can walk far and put up with the pain, other days I can hardly walk at all, some days I'm in a wheelchair.

I can't work because the only jobs I can get outside of college are the 'typical teenage jobs' such as MacDonalds, bar jobs etc. where I would be stood up all the time. The disease I have also causes me chronic fatigue and there's no way I could work as well as college.
So I can't work, and need that money. I now don't get any money. I have had to go back to my parents for them to pay me petrol money as I swapped my DLA for a car so that I could get around. So no, I'm not rich and getting richer.

As for the mother and child spaces. I don't have a problem with them to be honest, however, I think what people were upset about was mothers with a 'child' that isn't a new child.
Perhaps, if it causes this much controversy the mother and child ought to stipulate that they are only for mothers with a baby of a certain age.

I can understand though, that when you go shopping with your kids and you've got all these carrier bags, you don't want to be walking very far with kids when you can't hold their hands and you're around cars. So, maybe they're not such a bad idea!

As far as my disease is concerned, some days I can walk pretty well, in which case I may use a disabled space but not one that's very very close so that people with a blue badge but worse off than me that day can park there.
I try not to park on double yellows even though I can. I believe that they are there for a reason and it's quite mad that you can't use your blue badge to park on residents only roads, but you can use it to park on double yellow lines! The double yellows are a safety feature!

If I am ok, I will not use it or I will leave spaces closer to the destination so that people who are having more trouble can get parked closer.

I am not abusing it though and I don't know where I'd be right now without this initiative.
Sunshiner, Please, don't react like that as it just makes people look at you badly or think you are ignorant.

Try and make your argument clearer and calm down before you write it. Believe me, I've reacted badly to posts too and I've really regretted my quick temper!

well im left fuming by some of the wording from sunshiner. MY 4 year old daughter is disabled with cerebral palsy has only 25 per cent vision in one eye and has a rare type of type 1 diabetes and in your wording begrudge her a disabled badge she wears splints as she walks on her ankles is lucky if she can walk 10 metres . the money in which she get high rate for both go into a bank account for her solely and because i work im not entitle to carers allowance which i wouldnt want anyway as it is a pleasure to be looking after such a gorgeous child and with all her problems she still manages to smile every day i work a 16 hour week and my days off constist of hospital appointment as she is under the childrens,hallamshire,northern general and ryegate which we go to every week and im am lucky if i get 4 hours sleep a night but hold on im not the one with a disability my daughter is so i think you arnt to keep your mouth shut and think before you speak as you have offended my daughter and i and properly alot more

Originally posted by owdlad
Let's get this clear, because you don't get DLA you begrudge others getting it. How sad.

My only advice to you would be to appeal the decision not to grant you DLA. Then try not to be so bitter that other people do receive it when you obviously don't qualify for it.

To be fair to the poster you quoted though, I know from personal experience that getting ANYTHING you're entitled to out of the DSS is like getting blood out of a stone.. If you don't answer the questions on the form in a certain way, they'll turn round and say you're not entitled to a penny without a second thought..

I was lucky though, we had one of the Managers from the company who support me to help with the wording of what we put down on the form, I have asperger's syndrome you see, which is a mild form of autism.. I'm also chronically deaf and have mobility problems.

But would I have gotten a penny without the help of good old Phil Sadler?! Probably not cos the system sucks, I came off the Dole just prior to getting DLA cos the Dole system is unfair to disabled clients, and that's putting my thoughts politely.. :rant:

i agree rich, the paperwork is dreadful but sunshiner shouldnt be pulling disabled people to bits as many of the disabled people wish they wasnt disabled and would give anything for a normal life as i would if i could for my daughter

Originally posted by Rich
To be fair to the poster you quoted though, I know from personal experience that getting ANYTHING you're entitled to out of the DSS is like getting blood out of a stone.. If you don't answer the questions on the form in a certain way, they'll turn round and say you're not entitled to a penny without a second thought..

I was lucky though, we had one of the Managers from the company who support me to help with the wording of what we put down on the form, I have asperger's syndrome you see, which is a mild form of autism.. I'm also chronically deaf and have mobility problems.

But would I have gotten a penny without the help of good old Phil Sadler?! Probably not cos the system sucks, I came off the Dole just prior to getting DLA cos the Dole system is unfair to disabled clients, and that's putting my thoughts politely.. :rant:

That's exactly why I told her to appeal Rich, I know from past experience that almost every decision goes against you the first time you apply.

I know the system stinks and there are some who abuse it, and just as many worthy cases get knocked back simply because the system is geared to making it difficult to get DLA, however it doesn't make it right for sunshiner to go off on one at others who have got DLA just because she was rejected.

I have a blue badge, but I still always pay for parking, I only use the badge to park on double yellows, so i dont have to walk asfar
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like i said in my earlier rant i work so if my daughter isnt with me i dont use it unlike some people who i see in a morning, many times i have been stop at crystal peaks trying to park in disabled bays but because my daughter is only a child i get told off until i showed them the badge and my daughter picture on the back and then point her out in the back seat i love seeing their faces afterwards as their lost for words and cant stop agoligising not all disabilitys are visible but i wish some people should keep their views to them self and keep their mouths SHUT!!!!!

I have a blue badge because I had cancer a few years ago and all my lungs are buggered up.

Once I was in Tesco car park parked in a disabled spot and a woman came out of the store to her car with an old man asleep in the back, I think she was using his badge. Anyway she opened her car door and it smashed straight into mine, as I spun round, startled at just how careless she was she shouted
"Disabled are you?!"
I was almost lost for words but managed to reply
"Yes actually I have cancer"
and then lied saying I had weeks to live just to make her think about what she had said. Still no apology though, she drove off in a huff.

Many other times I have been asked if I am disabled by people and in Asda a loud automatic voice always goes off asking if I really need the space, then everyone around just stares at you which isn't nice.

I once went to meadowhall with my stepdad in an old Land Rover. We waited for someone to pull out of a disabled parking space and when they did my stepdad put the Land Rover in reverse and just before he gt it going, some little git drove straight in and pinched it.

So my stepdad got out and told the guy to move his car and the guy just walked off. My stepdad then looked if the guy had a blue badge and he didnt so my stepdad got back in the Land Rover and actually pushed the car out of the way :o (only possible because it was the parking space next to where the taxis park)
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Mainframe - I would be so embarassed! How shameful!

Louise, I agree with you - this was what I was trying to say when Mo thought I was having a go!

Adlind, I know, I get the same looks because I can walk fine for short distances. I also have severe internal involvement, breathing trouble and if I walk much, my blood pools in the bottom of my leg/foot because I don't have valves in my veins to push the blood back up.
Of course, nobody can see this and they get arsy with me when I park in disabled squares.

The very fact that she had parked in a disabled space with her father or whatever he was, but left him in the car proves she shouldn't have been using disabled space if the badge was for him so she had no right to have a go at you! Only if he was walking in with her should she have parked there! Foolish cow!

I understand this is a contentious issue, but it does seem there are quite a few people out there who either park in disabled spaces who don’t have a badge or those who do who look absolutely fine.

This maybe due to signs such as a wheel chair for disabled access. It makes us all think someone who is disabled should fit in to those criteria.

In my personal experience, there is a guy in the flats where I live who has a disabled sticker in his window so he can park in the disabled space. He actually has a designated space not 50 yards away, but insists on parking in the disabled spaces. He has no visible disability and I regularly see him taking his dog for long walks so distance isn't a problem for him. If you ask me he is just plain lazy!

Yes there are people like that Serapis.

However, people should reserve judgement until they know disabilities are complicated things.

I'm not in a wheelchair but used to use the disabled toilets at college because I have a colostomy and it is easier to change the bag if I have more space. It's very difficult and embarassing changing the bag in the girls toilets, embarassing because it makes a smell, it takes a long time, and people can hear the disposal bags rustling. It is difficult because there's just not enough space. It's also easier because I need to lean back and disabled toilets have the padded backs

However, they have seen me going into the disabled toilets and put a lock on it so I can't use it :o now whilst I can understand they need to keep them free for wheelchair users and they don't realise. But they do know I have a colostomy and there are at least 4 disabled toilets at college and nobody in a wheelchair. I am not very happy about having to go back to them and explain what I do when I go to the toilet but I do have to.

Back to parking spaces, it's very difficult being disabled as it is and sometimes you do actually feel that you get things other people don't and question if it's fair (at least I do) but it's even harder when people give you dirty looks and judge you. Nobody should have to go through that.

When I was getting DLA a friend of mine actually turned round to me and because I hadn't used all of my DLA for that month and was saving it up so that I could have a treat, she said 'well, don't you think you ought to give it back for someone who needs it. Well, if I had done this, they would have taken me off higher allowance and put me on lower and I needed it the next time. She said it in a way that made me feel low and like a criminal abusing the system.

At the end of the day I'd give up my car and pay back all my DLA to be healthy and not have to visit the hospital all the time, have operations all the time, and be able to go out and have fun like other 17 year olds, have a job like other 17 year olds do, wear the same clothes as other 17 year olds do. But I can't so personally, I feel I deserve that car!

By the way, that whole thing wasn't aimed at Serapis.

As for the dog walking. This will be extremely difficult for you to understand and comprehend and I can understand that because you don't have any knowledge of this man's disability.
However, please don't call him lazy as you don't have all the facts.

He can't take his dog for mega long walks anyway because dogs get too tired but I can walk for distances, some days I can't, but a lot of the time I can walk a certain distance. However, I can hardly walk at all if I have any extra weight to carry due to my general strength as well as breathing and my colostomy (I can't carry stuff because I keep getting hernias!)

Perhaps it helps him to park closer to his place of residence if he has to carry stuff from the car to the house.

I don't know because I don't know this man but I try my best not to judge on anything and especially not before I know the facts.

Originally posted by Lotti
By the way, that whole thing wasn't aimed at Serapis.

Phew! :D

Regarding this guy, I understand some disabilities are not visible and so people can make the wrong judgement. This guy doesn't just use the space to drop stuff off, he uses it as his own personal space, even though he has one less that 50 yards away! I see him carrying big bags of shopping in through the doors, walking his dog and generally doing everything an able bodied person does. If he can do all these things, then he should use his other space. The reason he uses the disabled space is because its slap bang in front of the doors!

Also sometimes the disabled badge isn't even in the car, and I know he only has one car, so where is it?

Originally posted by Mo
Don't ge me wrong, I'm not saying that they shouldn't but I can't understand the logic of it at all.

Are they any worse off than your average old aged pensioner? I don't think so.

Does payment involve an extra strain on their mobility? I don't think so.

So why do they not have to pay like the rest of the population?
It all depends on which area (local authority) you live, some allow "free" parking for badge holders, some don't.

Doncaster for example have marked bays closer to the exits of car parks, but still charge full rate to use them (at least, they did last time I was there).

Ask your local councillor why Sheffield chose the "free" route.

I think its great disabled people can park free etc.

It is one less hassle enabling them to get out and about more, without worrying if they can reach the paying machine (its not low!)

The more that is done to get them out and about the better, for them, for the able bodied, and for the economy :)

to every1 out there who seems to have got me completely wrong i dont have anything againt dissabled people its as owl dad said it gets held back by stupid people and makes life hard for the people who really need it thats what makes my mad
and luise has upsett me a great deal by not reading my view propperly and asuming things that arnt true

I read a stat the other day which said that something like 90% of people with disabilities are not in full time work. That shocked me. In many cases it only takes a small adjustment to allow people to take up a full time job - getting parking is just one factor that can really help.

It's hard when people cannot 'see' the disability. I've probably huffed and puffed at people myself before now, not realising they do a disability I cannot see. And I know how it feels, whivh is the strange thing, as people have said directly to my face "there's nothing wrong with you, you're lying" when I tell them about my own problem. This kind of reaction to me just makes me despise people, I'm sorry. So I perfectly understand when people get angry when others have a go because of an invisible disability.

When I was using a wheelchair I knew I'd be out of it soon, so I didn't bother going through the process of having a pass for the few months I'd need it, but I do think you can get these things temporarily. I would imagine that physical damage after childbirth would be painful, and I'd recommend asking the doctor about being recommended for a parking permit temporarily.

Sunshiner - sorry you seem to have been misunderstood. That's what I meant by my other message. Try calming down before replying. I know that you were worked up when you first replied and that is why it came across the way it did.

But I have replied in the heat of the moment and have also been misunderstood!

Mathom - often yes, you can generally get a job. But it has been impossible for me!
I am ill a lot of the time as well as having mobility trouble so am not very reliable, I'm at college during the day and nobody wants me!
I can't stand for a long time, or walk far, which does seriously limit you.

But yes, that statistic is amazing! I do agree with others, that some people milk it, if I could get a job I would but there are people who are quite happy to live off their DLA.
Unfortunately.

thank u lotti
im just waiting for an appoligy off the other girl who was very rude to me and obviously just skims the posts and if she is reading this unless u have all the facts right keep your own mouth shut (that was aimed at the girl who was rude to me not lotti)

is anyone else apalled at the advert

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that's appearring, here which says "get a blue badge, even if you are not disabled!"
As a genuine blue badge holder, I am mightily annoyed and offended by it!
Is there any way that ad can be vetoed, please?


PT

:o

It's gone now PT - did it really say that??

yes, lotti, it was there as i read your reply.

PT

Hi PT,

Unfortunately that blasted ad comes courtsey of Google and the ad presented depends upon teh subject matter on the thread.

It's back now - I'll mention it to Geoff the next time I see him but I don't THINK there's a way we can filter the ads...

Joe

PT, I see the ad you mean, shocking:rant:

Sunshiner, you first came across as very against disabled people receiving DLA, but now you have clarified things- poeple claiming DLA when they don't really need it- is an entirely different matter.

It can be very daunting and difficult to get DLA and the Blue Badge- I suppose this is to put people off claiming fraudulently, but unfortunately this type of person knows how to 'play' the system to their advantage- while a person genuninely struggling with care and mobility needs (i.e. life in general!) will probably not feel strong enough to appeal against the almost inevitable initial rejection, or to even put the case forward in a way that's likely to succeed in the first place. I can only suggest that people use the services of advice centres (CAB etc), advocacy workers. If you have a disability, get on the net- there's bound to be a site with support groups/ forums where they can help you.

Originally posted by Plain Talker
is anyone else apalled at the advert

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PT,

You might want to have a go at Dan Strauss, MD, the author of the website. (http://www.uk-driving-secrets.com/beat/menu.aspx?int=GGL)

Originally posted by Mathom
I read a stat the other day which said that something like 90% of people with disabilities are not in full time work. That shocked me. In many cases it only takes a small adjustment to allow people to take up a full time job - getting parking is just one factor that can really help.

It's hard when people cannot 'see' the disability. I've probably huffed and puffed at people myself before now, not realising they do a disability I cannot see. And I know how it feels, whivh is the strange thing, as people have said directly to my face "there's nothing wrong with you, you're lying" when I tell them about my own problem. This kind of reaction to me just makes me despise people, I'm sorry. So I perfectly understand when people get angry when others have a go because of an invisible disability.

When I was using a wheelchair I knew I'd be out of it soon, so I didn't bother going through the process of having a pass for the few months I'd need it, but I do think you can get these things temporarily. I would imagine that physical damage after childbirth would be painful, and I'd recommend asking the doctor about being recommended for a parking permit temporarily.

The reason we aren't working is that for all the Government's bleating about equal opportunities and all that crap, what employer is going to give a disabled person a job when it's cheaper for them to employ an able bodied person as they wouldn't have to make any changes to their premises to service a wheelchair user for example.. :loopy:

And don't even get me started on how much I think the job centre system is designed to be against disabled clients.. :rant:

I'm sorry for ranting, it just disgusts me that employers and the "Powers that be" bang on about "equal" opportunities for all, yet we disabled folk are still getting told where to go when we apply for jobs.. It wouldn't be QUITE so bad if it wasn't for the fact that getting benefits off the DSS is like pulling teeth what with all the needlessly complicated forms and retarded red tape we have to contend with.

Originally posted by Rich
The reason we aren't working is that for all the Government's bleating about equal opportunities and all that crap, what employer is going to give a disabled person a job when it's cheaper for them to employ an able bodied person as they wouldn't have to make any changes to their premises to service a wheelchair user for example.. :loopy:

And don't even get me started on how much I think the job centre system is designed to be against disabled clients.. :rant:


Rich, Have a day off mate... In my opinion what you have posted above is utter crap (if you pardon the expression)

Employers don't have the luxury of saying able bodies is all we can employ so scrap that image you have for a start, I think their reasons for non employment would have to be a little more reasonable than that!

In the all the jobs I've had I have never come across a place that doesn't have a disabled worker in their employment.

Job centres are designed to help everyone, regardless of whether you have all your limbs or not :roll:

If you feel your being harshly dealt with Rich then go to the appropriate people, don't moan about it.. DO SOMETHING!

<<<< That advert does point towards people using badges who are not entitled to them though!

Originally posted by Deejay
Rich, Have a day off mate... In my opinion what you have posted above is utter crap (if you pardon the expression)

Employers don't have the luxury of saying able bodies is all we can employ so scrap that image you have for a start, I think their reasons for non employment would have to be a little more reasonable than that!

In the all the jobs I've had I have never come across a place that doesn't have a disabled worker in their employment.

Job centres are designed to help everyone, regardless of whether you have all your limbs or not :roll:

If you feel your being harshly dealt with Rich then go to the appropriate people, don't moan about it.. DO SOMETHING!

Correct, Large companies must have a certain percent of disabled people. Also a company can recieve a grant to make there building wheelchair accessable if they can prove they cant afford it


It wouldn't be QUITE so bad if it wasn't for the fact that getting benefits off the DSS is like pulling teeth what with all the needlessly complicated forms and retarded red tape we have to contend with.

I undertand what your on about here, about 2years ago they lowered my DLA from the higher rate to the lower rate. This was stupid because nothing has changed apart from my joint getting a little worse. So we appealed and when it got to court the judge came you to me and said "We have no idea why they have done this, we can all see its wrong so we have already decided to make them change it back"

The DSS are stupid and make us fill in forms which are the same as orms we have already filled in. What a waste of time and money
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I know this isn't really the right place for this post but feel the need to pointout that yes, mother and baby spaces are just as necessary as disabled spaces if used correctly. Imagine you have a 4 week old baby who has to travel in a special car seat. Now try getting this car seat in and out of the car in most of the usual-sized spaces - its impossible!!

I've been in situations such as in Meadowhall where I've parked with yeloow hatching next to me (i.e. in a normal end-space) and come back to find some idiot parked right up against my car leaving enough space to get myself in but not the baby seat. What am I supposed to do in this situation. I can hardly leave the baby on its own while I reverse the car out.

personally I think we should all be more considerate of each other and think whether we need these spaces before using them. I am not disabled therefore I would never consider using a disabled space but can see why a disabled person would need one, and can also see why they get free parking. Howeverf I also see the need for M+B spaces too. However a child over toddler-age really doesn't need to be using them.

Originally posted by karen2388
I know this isn't really the right place for this post but feel the need to pointout that yes, mother and baby spaces are just as necessary as disabled spaces if used correctly. Imagine you have a 4 week old baby who has to travel in a special car seat. Now try getting this car seat in and out of the car in most of the usual-sized spaces - its impossible!!

I've been in situations such as in Meadowhall where I've parked with yeloow hatching next to me (i.e. in a normal end-space) and come back to find some idiot parked right up against my car leaving enough space to get myself in but not the baby seat. What am I supposed to do in this situation. I can hardly leave the baby on its own while I reverse the car out.

personally I think we should all be more considerate of each other and think whether we need these spaces before using them. I am not disabled therefore I would never consider using a disabled space but can see why a disabled person would need one, and can also see why they get free parking. Howeverf I also see the need for M+B spaces too. However a child over toddler-age really doesn't need to be using them.

Isn't the root problem here, regarding Mother and Baby spaces that if the space sizes hadn't been squashed to the bare minimum over the years there would be no need for special spaces?

Hi serapis

Yes, size does seem to be the major issue. In fact most of the other mums I know agree that being close to the shop isn't that important although it is convenient when you have a newborn and its freezing outside (they can't control their temperature very well for those who don't know so need to avoid extreme temperatures). I would happily park miles away from a shop if I knew I would be able to get into my car easily when i got back to it. Unfortuantely everfy time I've done this people choose to park right next to me - completely empty area with my car and 2 others parked up right next to it!!

I thinnk if we had bigger car spaces people probably wouldn't abuse the disabled and M+B sapces either. From what I can see lots of people use them to stop their cars getting clonked by people who have no respect for other cars.

Firstly, the quota system (which I believe used to be 2%) no longer exists for employers to employ people with disabilities.

Since the DDA came into force the focus is on making it illegal for any employer to discriminate against a person with a disability if the discrimination is related to the disability.

Employers have a duty to make 'reasonable adjustments' and it is up to employment tribunals to decide what is 'reasonable' if an individual feels the employer is not doing this and no amount of advising has helped.

One of the things that could be classed as a 'reasonable adjustment' is granting a person with a disability a permanent parking space (if the employer has its own parking).

As for why blue badge holders get free parking, I don't really see why this should be the case, other than the fact that they are much less likely to be in paid employment - but then to be fair, should we make all parking fees means tested? I think not.

Using public transport is much more difficult for people whith disabilities and that is partly why we have the blue badge system - so that people can get out and about. In order to obtain a blue badge a person must prove they need it because of mobility/access difficulties - hence why the allocated spaces are closest to shops/facilities etc.

Many people with disabilities do not qualify for a blue badge, only a very small minority. There may be abuse of the system - there is abuse of every system - but from what I observe, they are isolated cases. You are much more likely to see able bodied people without blue badges parking in disabled spaces than someone using a blue badge who does not need it. Remember appearances can be very deceptive. Just because someone 'appears' ok to you, does not mean they don't suffer extreme pain and other difficulties, all of which are not visible to the passer by. A little more tolerance in today's society would not go amiss.

Rich - the Government is as poor at equal opportunities and employing/retaining people with disabilities as most employers. Many of them cannot see beyond the end of their own noses and think they know what individuals can and cannot do just by looking at them. It is total ignorance that means many people with disabilities get overlooked for jobs which they could do.

If the Civil Service Departments responsible for helping people with Disabilities into work are unable to practice what they preach, the I really wouldn't hold your breath for other employers to follow. Though it tends to be a matter of 'do as I say not do as I do' as far as the Civil Service is concerned.

I wrote to the company who were advertised for getting Blue badges even if you're not disabled and got this message:


Dear Charlotte,

Thanks for your message!

I'm sorry you feel this way. I assure you we are an honest company. Our
guide simply tries to inform people that are entitled to get the blue
badges on how to get them easier.

Take care and thanks for writing,

Alan, myHelpHub.com

So now I am slightly confused as it did say on the advert, get a blue badge even if you're not disabled, so just thought I'd let you know!

Lottie

When I left school in the early 70s ,I went for a dozen or so jobs & as soon as I told them I was disabled,the job had gone,whatever happens employers are going to employ a AB before a disabled person,no matter what the law say's.Been there done it.

Not sure if this is slightly off topic, but my mother in law who is 82 fell and broke her leg, resulting in a partial hip replacement. She was on sticks for 6 months, and my wife and I drove her everywhere, but she couldn't get a badge because the disability wasn't permanent. This meant that say we took her to the supermarket, if there was only one of us with her, we had to drop her at the entrance then find a space and come back to meet her. Meantime she was left standing on her sticks. It would have been really helpful if she could have got a badge valid for a few months.

Algy, I'm not sure if this is still the case, I think if it is, it ought to be changed.

And as this happened yesterday I thought it was the perfect time to comment.

I went to tesco the other day and out of all the disabled spaces there are (are there 12?), there were 2 free and 2 cars with badges.

I went to Meadowhall today and had to park at the far end of the car park and walk all the way across the car park to the centre past all the cars without badges in the disabled spaces!

Why are they not checked? Surely they ought to get a fine if they don't have a badge? At least that way, if their badge is on it's way in the post or they haven't got it with them, they can appeal the fine.

It bugs me!

I'm sure in the supermarket I shop in there is a notice which says any cars parked in the disabled slots without showiing a badge will be fined, as I remember quite a lot of money.
As for who does the checks I'm not sure.

hazel

I've seen a 'car park attendant' at Asda going round checking the cars there, about time too.

As for Blue Badges for temporary disability (if that's the right term) I think they should bring them in.

My dad broke his leg quite a while back now. He parked in a disabled space (for some reason he was able to drive but he still had a pot on)? Anyway, when he came back to the car he'd got a ticket (was in a council car park). He wrote to the council explaining that he considered himself 'disabled' for that short period of time, and they cancelled the ticket.

1 spell my name right SUNSHINER and 2 you was sla**ing disable people and i have a right to rant if you are and 3 you wont be getting no apology off me,it you who should be apolgise to all the people you offended including me. I DONT CARE IF I HAVE UPSET YOU IN THE LEAST and for skimming the posts you got me wrong my daughter has been in hospital as she fell into a diabetic coma so i have had more important things on my mind then worrying about what sum little moron has been saying about ME. get a life

I must say i would have to agree with louise on this one. I'm sorry to hear of your very difficult situation louise with your daughter, I am living with my father who suffers with a terminal illness, and after reading the posts on here about a ridiculous comment on disabled badge holders it made me feel sick.

Do you people have any idea what it is like seeing your dad suffer and be closer to death every day? I'm afraid the last thing on our minds is my dads car parking badge. Trying to think i wont see my dad on my next birthday is more important.

You dont have a clue. Very pathetic topic to pick.

thanks ever so much claire for your support. At least there is sum decent people out there unlike sum people (not mentioning any names) who could understand the situation that disabled people have to put up with off unconsiderate human beings. EVERYDAY IS A BLESSING WITH MY DAUGHTER....... the apology is not accepted

i wasnt appoligizing i was asking u for 1 as u was very rude to me when all i did was put an oppinion over abount people who are doing jobs that arnt lagit that there dissabilty is supposed to stop them from doing aka frauds which is unfair to the people who really need it as it holds up other claims

and for another check the post and see who it was whop started on you just because you ,may have a dissabled person in your family doesnt meen that u have the right to go slagging every1 else off for there oppinions non of ,my oppinions were aimed at u in favct completely the oppisate it was aimed at the people who are trying it on holding the system up and making life hard for the people who shud be entitled to it and i dont just meen myself

Sunshiner.Your comments when you first came to post did read like you were digging at people for getting dla.Maybe we misunderstood you and you didnt mean it like that.You went on to say how you couldnt get dla when you were ill yourself.I know this upset you but there are others in the same situation..Louise170419 was upset but you have to realise that when you have a disabled child you are fiercely protected of them.I know as i have one myself. My son has a range of problems in mobility and his learning.You were right that the post was started by mo but mo just asked a straight forward question yours was a comment that was replied to by quite a few people.

thank you dee, and i havent slagged any1 off , at the moment im having a really bad time with my daughter and i nearly losted her at the weekend, its not nice waking up to find your daughter in a coma,and i dont agree with people pulling disabled people down mayb i didnt understand you at first sunshiner but you did have to carry it on with private messages pulling me to bits . you wanna put yourself in my shoes and do my job as a full time mum / carer and work believe me its not fun as you do lose aload of mates in the process, as sum mates dont wanna be mates with some1 who child has got a disability as they cant cope with the pain and the suffering the carer is going through and all the doctors want to do is put you on anti depressants. but at the end of the day ive got a daughter who depends on me and everyday with her is a blessing and you will be waiting along time for an apology you are never going to receive of me it should be the other way round louise sorry any1 if i have offended you in anyway:thumbsup:

i didnt pull you to bits i was just trying to let u know that it wasnt aimed at you or any 1 that is entitled to the money they recieve i really wouldnt like to be in the position that you are in and i know the doctors all they do it try puttting people on antidepressants they seem to think that the answer to everything is in a pill and its not my fella has bin put on them and they are awfull expessially whist you are waiting for them to kick in as they make you worse than u are for the first 3 weeks thats what the doc told him and those 3 weeks were unbarable for me and its the same every time the dosage gets stronger those 3 weeks again
i hope your daughter pulls through ok
i know what its like to lose mates as im a young mum and half my mates are too bizzy doing what teenagers do when they dont have any responsabiltys and i cant as i have to there for my child as well as having to keep an eye on my partner who has suicidal tendancies due to savior depression so i cant leave my baby with him as he wouldnt cope and could end up doing summet daft to himself if you ever need sum1 to talk to u could pm me i want the argument to end with no hard feelings i may not be going through the same thing but i know its nice to talk to sum 1 whose life isnt allways sweet rather than the people telling you to allways look on the brightside of the matter yours the sunshiner

Louise, hi, hope you are ok?

You are obviously going through a really difficult time right now, I hope you know that the majority of the people on this forum are here to support you whenever you need it.

I can't imagine being in your position, but if you need to talk, then PM me :thumbsup:

It is too easy for some people to pass comment on what/what does not constitute a disability as far as the blue badge is concerned but what we all should realise is - there is almost always a really good reason for having one - no matter what we think from just looking at someone.

The next time we see someone with a blue badge, parking in a disabled bay - we should be thinking 'what an awful time they must be having ' - not 'why do they have a blue badge'? If you don't have one, then just think yourself lucky, because I am sure we'd all rather be fit enough not to need one :thumbsup:

sunshiner can you please read your privates messages thanks louise

HAVE DONE CHEERS

well where i live, we still have to pay to park in a disabled bay in some car parks

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Lotti
[B] I do have a problem with people looking at me as if to say 'you're not disabled' though. What do they know - just cos i'm not in a wheelchair




I too get this look to lotti.im not in a wheelchair like one of my freinds are.i can walk but im to on dla.and i was put on it to get better for an accident i had.and it is as i tell all people that it is hard to get onto dla,but i get looks like to say "you can walk why do you need a badge". but i too get fed up of these looks.

disabled does not mean to be in a wheelchair.it can also be a mental problem.

Exactly, but some people can't see that *cough*Bartfarst and chums*cough*

Why do they get free parking...........because they get free everything

I really don't object to a disabled person having a free parking badge in fact everyone over 65 should have one.
But what really annoys me is that the blue badge is widely abused mostly by people related to someone that may hold the badge.

You see this happening all the time they park the car in a disabled bay get out of the car and behold there able bodied , what makes them think they have the right to do this .There just bone idle to walk a few yards and to tight to bloody pay for a parking metre.

I used to run a spinal injury ward and for the wheelchair user, generally it is important to have wide parking spaces, so that the spinal injured person can actually have the room to remove the chair from the car and assemble it safely!!!!!!!!!

Why do they get free parking...........because they get free everything

You don't seem to have found much of the truth and wisdom you're seeking :D

Why do they get free parking...........because they get free everything

Jealous, or something?

I could always lend you my chariot, for the day, let you see what life is like looking at folk in the belly-button...? might cure it...

PT

It's irritating that some people have a disabled badge when they don't really need it. I personally know someone who has a badge but is capable of walking a fair distance when she wants to.
I'm also puzzled by the concession of parking on double yellow lines [unless there are the three stripes on the kerb]. Double yellow lines are there for a reason - either safety or easing congestion - so it's not immediately easy to justify having relaxations.

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most are cheats and want reporting ive sen many so called disabled walk into shops. REPORT a cheat .com check it out

this comment is inflammatory, and out of order, not to mention an ill informed, ill thought out and subjective argument.

1) There is no way on this earth that you could have encountered "most" disasbled people, your sample is not large enough to qualify you to make such comments, and

2) Disabled does not necessarily mean TOTALLY unable to walk, or "confined to" a wheelchair, you could have limited mobility.

Someone could be able to walk 25 or 50 yards, (25 is about the maximum I could do if I used my sticks, bt it takes a lot of resting, and sitting down to manage that amount) which might get the person into, and back out of the shop, but no further. which is the whole point of disabled parking badges:- to make it easier to park nearer shops and facilitied we might want to access.

Just because you see someone walk a few short yards, it does not mean that they are ready to run the flaming London Marathon!

That person you see might do the walk into the shop, and back out, but when they get home, their bad heart, or MS (or whatever ) might mean they are in agonies for a day or two after their exertion.

I can walk a little, but not a huge amount, If I attend the Dev Cat meet on my crutches, I am absolutely exhausted afterwards, and it takes some recovering from.

PT

What I don't understand is why they are entitled to park on double yellow lines. I mean, surely the double yellow lines are there for a reason and if not, why can't everyone else park on them?

you cannot park on double yellows if it will cause an obstruction, or if it's a clearway.

I trhink the concession is given because of the need to allow someone with restricted mobility to park as near as possible to their destination.

you can still get targetted with a ticket even with a blue badge.

PT

whenever i see a car on double yellows it also has a disabled bage in the window

whenever i see a car on double yellows it also has a disabled bage in the window

Obviously you live a sheltered life in Dronfield.

Whenever I see a car on a double yellow it's usually a beamer or a merc complete with emergency lights flashing

Don't ge me wrong, I'm not saying that they shouldn't but I can't understand the logic of it at all.

Are they any worse off than your average old aged pensioner? I don't think so.

Does payment involve an extra strain on their mobility? I don't think so.

So why do they not have to pay like the rest of the population?

My girlfriends uncle got £50 for not displaying his badge proply, a slight mistake but they didnt let him off for it.

Don't ge me wrong, I'm not saying that they shouldn't but I can't understand the logic of it at all.

Are they any worse off than your average old aged pensioner? I don't think so.

Does payment involve an extra strain on their mobility? I don't think so.

So why do they not have to pay like the rest of the population?

Stop asking stupid questions, many can't work because they are disabled so it is designed to make a difficult situation easier, give me strength.