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maz134
25-05-2009, 15:07
Can anyone remember What store was opposite the co/op in 1974 or round about that time? (Think it was at the side of a cinema) Any help would be useful.

deej
25-05-2009, 15:08
i think it was cockaynes

karl101
25-05-2009, 15:12
Wasn't it the Odeon Cenema?

K.

Daven
25-05-2009, 15:20
The cinema across the road from the Co op on Angel Street and next to Cockaynes was the ABC.

maz134
25-05-2009, 15:23
Thanks a lot. Yes hubby who has been no help all day, has just confirmed it was Cockaynes. (a bit like Debenhams) I'm not sure about the cinema.
Just out of interest ( although your prob not) I'm doing some research for a short story that I have to do for Open University Fiction course and it's driving me mad doing the background setting. Thank you so much.............. Maz

maz134
25-05-2009, 15:25
Daven
Your right. Came to me as soon as i read it
Cheers............

Nigel Womersle
25-05-2009, 15:32
The cinema across the road from the Co op on Angel Street and next to Cockaynes was the ABC.

Yes it was the ABC. When it opened on 18 May 1961, it was advertised as the most modern cinema in the country (naturally so). The first showing was Richard Todd in 'Don't bother to knock', and 'Never mind murder'. When fully opened for showing Cinemascope, its screen width was 60ft. It finally closed on 28 July 1988.

hillsbro
25-05-2009, 15:55
I think that by 1974 Cockaynes would have become Schofields. It was certainly Schofields in early 1975.

Kidorry
25-05-2009, 16:13
Wasn`t Atkinsons there also?Or was that before 1974?

Daven
25-05-2009, 16:20
Wasn`t Atkinsons there also?Or was that before 1974?

No - Atkinsons has always been on the Moor I believe.

Daven
25-05-2009, 16:21
I think that by 1974 Cockaynes would have become Schofields. It was certainly Schofields in early 1975.

I think you may be right,

shinyhappy68
25-05-2009, 16:37
I think you may be right,

Yes Schofields, it had that statue thing hanging off the front.

Daven
25-05-2009, 16:41
Yes Schofields, it had that statue thing hanging off the front.

That's right - what the hell was that thing? - anyone know ?:confused:

Finbarr69
25-05-2009, 17:35
Was it the statue hung on the side of the Co-op?
>> http://public-art.shu.ac.uk/sheffield/tie75.html

Daven
25-05-2009, 17:54
Was it the statue hung on the side of the Co-op?
>> http://public-art.shu.ac.uk/sheffield/tie75.html

It was - I'm getting confused !

Kidorry
25-05-2009, 19:34
I think that statue was put there when it was Hornes.I can assure you that Atkinsons was at the top of Snig Hill if my memory serves me right.There was Atkinsons & Cockaynes.

Elmambo
25-05-2009, 20:20
The top of Angel Street is called Market Place. Schofields, ABC cinema, Crystal Room, Amusement Arcade, Leyland Paints, Kitchen Centre, was the run of shops. The statue was on the old Horne's shop.

Kidorry
25-05-2009, 20:51
The top of Angel Street is called Market Place. Schofields, ABC cinema, Crystal Room, Amusement Arcade, Leyland Paints, Kitchen Centre, was the run of shops. The statue was on the old Horne's shop.

The time I am on about is before those places were built.

Kidorry
25-05-2009, 20:53
I have it at the back of my mind that Atkinsons was inside Cockaynes.I will ask the family tomorrow.

Plain Talker
25-05-2009, 22:24
I have it at the back of my mind that Atkinsons was inside Cockaynes.I will ask the family tomorrow.

Atkinsons was an independent family -owned store, which has always been on The Moor, and was never part of Cockaynes. Cockaynes became Schofield's, which I think was part of the chain which owned House of Fraser (which took over Walshes, now TJ Hughes)

The statue on Hornes (the building which castle house expanded into a few years ago) was put there in the early 1960s, and represents Vulcan. (and of course the city's link with metal and steelworking)

Plain Talker
25-05-2009, 22:27
The top of Angel Street is called Market Place. Schofields, ABC cinema, Crystal Room, Amusement Arcade, Leyland Paints, Kitchen Centre, was the run of shops. The statue was on the old Horne's shop.

The time I am on about is before those places were built.

those buildings referred to were built late fifties/ early sixties, so they would definitely have been there some years by 1974..

sweetdexter
25-05-2009, 23:34
One thing I remember about the ABC was a lounge and coffee bar upstairs
This was pre 1966

Elmambo
26-05-2009, 12:08
That would be the Concourse.

hillsbro
26-05-2009, 12:08
Atkinsons was an independent family -owned store, which has always been on The Moor, and was never part of Cockaynes. Cockaynes became Schofield's...

Quite right - Atkinson's have always been on The Moor. The 1925 directory also shows them on Prince Street and Eldon Street but the main store was at 76 to 90 The Moor. Later the store was evidently reduced in size, and by 1973 were at 78-82 The Moor, where they remain. The store must have remained in the family's hands until about the 1970s; John Atkinson himself used to do their TV adverts.

The 1973 directory (compiled in 1972) shows Cockaynes still under this name, and so the takeover by Schofields would have been between 1972 and 1974. Elmambo (post #17) got the sequence of shops on the west side of Angel Street dead right - here is a scan from the 1973 Kelly's Directory: http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u219/twigmore/AngelStreet1973.jpg

Elmambo
26-05-2009, 12:27
Glad to see the memory still works, although I did miss the Halifax.

Well into the late fifties, the Atkinsons store on the Moor, was a bomb crater with a row of single story display windows fronting the road - not sure if Robert Bros., was not the same ! What I can't remember is where (or if) they traded from until the new store was built.
It's just that the phrase Atkinson in Schofield's ring a very faint bell.

Ousetunes
26-05-2009, 12:45
I seem to recall being taken to Schofield's in the early 1970s to 'ride' to Santa's Grotto on one of the upper levels. I'd guess this was circa 1974/5 although there would probably have been another 'ride' over the road in the Co-op.

Schofield's was a decent shop in its day, quite classy. Practically all my visits there seemed to be with my mother which would make sense age-wise! We had Schofield's, Rackham's (always smelled strongly of perfume), Cole Brothers, Debenham's, Atkinson's, C & A and so on.

Decent shops in a decent shopping environment. Beats the rubbish we have today...,

Kidorry
26-05-2009, 18:39
Just had a word with my sister and she said that Atkinsons had a shop at the side of Cockaynes up the alley where Argos is now.

shinyhappy68
26-05-2009, 20:16
Was it the statue hung on the side of the Co-op?
>> http://public-art.shu.ac.uk/sheffield/tie75.html

Yep, thats it, sorry confusion with buildings :hihi:

Plain Talker
26-05-2009, 21:01
Just had a word with my sister and she said that Atkinsons had a shop at the side of Cockaynes up the alley where Argos is now.

Are you sure it was a shop and not just a display-window?

acman
26-05-2009, 21:21
Does any one remember the name of the electronics shop in that area? I think at first it was near where suggs shop was, then it moved under the road, opposite the toilets near Hornes mens wear, during the hole in road period, the shop sold radios, cassettes, light bulbs etc, I remember buying a cheap pair of hedphones from there, but I can't recall the name!
Regards to all.:)

hillsbro
26-05-2009, 21:26
Bunker & Pratley. They were excellent for spare parts, and even supplied a new element for my 1959 Goblin teasmade!.:)

acman
26-05-2009, 21:38
No Bunkers & Pratley were over the other side, only the basement was below ground, the main shop was above ground so to speak. We got our first colour tv from bunkers, a 22" decca, couldn't wait to get home from school that day!!

Kidorry
27-05-2009, 09:30
Are you sure it was a shop and not just a display-window?
Yes it was a shop.

boozy.bird
27-05-2009, 11:16
Does any one remember the name of the electronics shop in that area? I think at first it was near where suggs shop was, then it moved under the road, opposite the toilets near Hornes mens wear, during the hole in road period, the shop sold radios, cassettes, light bulbs etc, I remember buying a cheap pair of hedphones from there, but I can't recall the name!
Regards to all.:)

Was it wigfalls or maybe radio rentals ??? Also there used to be a small cafe at the side of the ABC can't remember the name

Sweetcheeks
27-05-2009, 12:55
1974 Kelly`s Directory confirms what Elmambo stated but lists 1-13 as Cockayne T.B & W Ltd. together with the Halifax branch and ABC Cinema. 17 Crystal Room, amusement arcade, 19 Leyland Paints Ltd and 21 Sheffield Kitchen Centre.

Kidorry
27-05-2009, 18:38
For months after the first Sheffield blitz, the once-familiar shops and factories were heaps of rubble and no one could quite keep track of where these firms had been relocated. Cockaynes, Coles, and Atkinsons, the best-known of the Sheffield stores, had divided their departments in small locations around the city, in cinemas, office blocks, in basements or wherever space was available, but their stock was depleted, so they needed less space than formerly.

This is an article from an eye-witness account of life just after the first blitz of Sheffield.This could be the reason they moved Atkinsons by the side of Cockaynes.

acman
27-05-2009, 18:55
Was it wigfalls or maybe radio rentals ??? Also there used to be a small cafe at the side of the ABC can't remember the name

No, it wasn't a chain shop, just a small electrical/electronics shop, like I say sold Cassette players, radios & the like, fairy lights at Xmas etc, just can't remember the bloody name of it!:D. I'm sure it was only one word tho'.
Thanks for all the replies,
All the best,

hillsbro
27-05-2009, 19:06
1974 Kelly`s Directory confirms what Elmambo stated but lists 1-13 as Cockayne T.B & W Ltd. together with the Halifax branch and ABC Cinema. 17 Crystal Room, amusement arcade, 19 Leyland Paints Ltd and 21 Sheffield Kitchen Centre.

So there were evidently no changes from the 1973 directory (post #24). I think the 1974 Kelly's Directory was the last (?) to be published; it would have been compiled in mid-1973. The Halifax branch was at subway level.

hillsbro
27-05-2009, 19:10
... can't remember the bloody name of it!:D. I'm sure it was only one word tho'.

Was it Buywell.? .I can't remember them in the subway but they were near Suggs until the mid-1970s.

Elmambo
27-05-2009, 22:13
Was it Buywell.? .I can't remember them in the subway but they were near Suggs until the mid-1970s.

Buywell rings a bell for me. Was down the Hole-in the-Road - a lad called Roy worked there doing repairs as I recall. Chap who owned it previously had Hindley's tools - just below the old Town Hall.

acman
28-05-2009, 12:00
Buywell rings a bell for me. Was down the Hole-in the-Road - a lad called Roy worked there doing repairs as I recall. Chap who owned it previously had Hindley's tools - just below the old Town Hall.

That's it Buywell,:thumbsup: yes they were near Suggs, but moved opposite the loo's under the subway, near to Hornes menswear. Small news kiosk on the corner down the slope from Castle House.