I just had a feling of it, but does it really exist? Have you had it? And have you had Deja vu aswell :roll:

Not sure how it is spelled.

I think everyone has had one or two in their lives i know i have but are they premonitions something you dreamt of before

I've had it in dream format

A couple of years ago I had a really vivid dream I was sorking for an employer I hadn't been at for 7 or 8 years. It wasn't a retrospective dream, coz I was in the wrong chair, and there were people in the office I didn't know.

Being superstitious, I believed it may be a premonition, but decided it couldn't be, because I'm hardly going to go and work 100 miles away from here :loopy:

When I awoke, I told Mr Strix about this dream

2 weeks later, my mobile rings. A nervous voice says 'Hi *Strix*, it's Steve *ex-boss*. Are you working?' He was a bit surprised that I was almost expecting his call :hihi: A new employee had walked out on them one lunchtime, and hadn't come back, and they were desparate to finish a job for a client.

I went down there for a week, and sat at the desk that had been in my dream :shocked:

I just had a feling of it, but does it really exist? Have you had it? And have you had Deja vu aswell :roll:

Not sure how it is spelled.

Didn't you ask this yesterday? :suspect:

I just had a feling of it, but does it really exist? Have you had it? And have you had Deja vu aswell :roll:

Not sure how it is spelled.

haven't had it for ages, but when it happens....its real creepy.....

think its something to do with the L side of the brain receiving a visual image before the R side of the brain. happens in milliseconds...but gives a feeling of familiarity...

Didn't you ask this yesterday? :suspect:


hee hee. deja vu...gerrit...he's real funny inhee purds?

:)

haven't had it for ages, but when it happens....its real creepy.....

think its something to do with the L side of the brain receiving a visual image before the R side of the brain. happens in milliseconds...but gives a feeling of familiarity...
Yeah, that'll explain my dream and phonecall more than adequately :roll:

Yeah, that'll explain my dream and phonecall more than adequately :roll:


listen you antkiller! i never said that i'd explain your personal sitch!! :)

but since you asked....

strix....you are a psychic.....go forth and use thine powers.....

I haven't killed any ants :roll: they are sky high on sugar though :suspect:

I haven't killed any ants :

good!


they are sky high on sugar though :

ok...so they were weak and easily swayed......it's probably the queens having an attack of the munchies on the way to buying some cigarettes....

queens having an attack of the munchies on the way to buying some cigarettes....

We've all been there dear... ;) :D

I hope you haven't been crawling round on my hall floor, Meaks!! :shocked:

I've had it in dream format

This is not deja vu. If you went in to the office and suddenly felt like you'd sat at the same desk before but couldn't explain why, that would be deja vu.

Deja vu is the feeling that you've been somewhere/seen something before, even though it's actually completely new to you. I believe this is caused by some kind of delay in the brain, so that you register it twice, and the second time it looks familiar.
A premonition is when you predict something is going to happen before it does. It is the opposite of deja vu, if you will.

what is precognition :confused:

I just had a feling of it, but does it really exist? Have you had it? And have you had Deja vu aswell :roll:

Not sure how it is spelled.
I just had a feling of it, but does it really exist? Have you had it? And have you had Deja vu aswell

Not sure how it is spelled.
I just had a feling of it, but does it really exist? Have you had it? And have you had Deja vu aswell

Not sure how it is spelled.
I just had a feling of it, but does it really exist? Have you had it? And have you had Deja vu aswell

Not sure how it is spelled.

I don't know if it's because scousers think faster (they have to to be able to talk like that :rolleyes: ) but when I get deja vu, I recognise the beginning of a scenario, but know what is going to happen next, and feel the creeps run up my back as it all plays out exactly as I expect it to :confused:

So how does that fit with the deja vu/premonition boxed-off, never-the-twin-shall-meet definitions?

I Knew you were going to say that :hihi:

I don't know if it's because scousers think faster (they have to to be able to talk like that :rolleyes: ) but when I get deja vu, I recognise the beginning of a scenario, but know what is going to happen next, and feel the creeps run up my back as it all plays out exactly as I expect it to :confused:

So how does that fit with the deja vu/premonition boxed-off, never-the-twin-shall-meet definitions?
How old are you and are you in a high stress job? I used to get this same weird sensatoin.
it is thought to be that you are so tired and stressed that your brain actually trips into 'sleep mode' for a few milliseconds, and your memory takes over, giving this weird feeling.

I don't know if it's because scousers think faster (they have to to be able to talk like that ) but when I get deja vu, I recognise the beginning of a scenario, but know what is going to happen next, and feel the creeps run up my back as it all plays out exactly as I expect it to

It's a pretty well established phenomenon of memory and perception becoming momentarily fused.
You experience it as the episode unfolds. As you 'remember' what happened 'last time', you recall the sequence of events, and the events unfold as you remember each one.

your senses and brain can perceive events with a delay of approximately 50 milliseconds. Your conscious mind follows after, filling in the gaps with expectation, imagination, memory, and everything else, creating the rich tapestry that your conscious self experiences about half a second later. Occasionally, and for a variety of reasons, this process can become disrupted, and imagination can 'appear' as memory, expectation can appear to be reality, and so on.

Also, I would imagine, disruptions in this process could give rise to synaesthesia, hearing voices, music etc.

...you recall the sequence of events, and the events unfold as you remember each one.
But they don't - that's the problem with this explanation.

Probably unrelated, but: Can you explain how I knew somebody had been involved in a vehicular accident an hour before my sister rang to say she'd crashed her car, but it had taken her an hour to gather her wits and make a phone call?

I'd got as far as the 'J' section in my phonebook (where her number resides)before deciding I was being daft phoning people up and asking if they'd been involved in an RTA

But they don't - that's the problem with this explanation.

Then it's not deja vu, it's premonition. If you know what is about to happen so far in advance you could jot it down before it happens then I wouldn't call it deja vu, I would call it clairvoyance, premonition or prophesy. And I would start doing it too, because there's a thousand parapsychologists who want to be the one that breaks the scientifically proven phenomena of foresight.

If you remember it happening, as it happens or just before it does, then you are not remembering it, but experiencing it as "right now" and "memory" simultaneously.

Sure, deja vu, "seen before", can be taken to mean premonition, but the commonly accepted definition is paramnesia, the specific little brain fart that most people are familiar with. Tellingly it can also occur before a seizure or stroke.

Probably unrelated, but: Can you explain how I knew somebody had been involved in a vehicular accident an hour before my sister rang to say she'd crashed her car, but it had taken her an hour to gather her wits and make a phone call?

I'd got as far as the 'J' section in my phonebook (where her number resides)before deciding I was being daft phoning people up and asking if they'd been involved in an RTA

Morphic resonance? You're a prophet? Your imagination playing tricks? Your guess is as good as mine, because it's outside the realms of the rational at the moment.

Apparently the French have a particularly polite form of this phenomenon known as "apres vu".....

But they don't - that's the problem with this explanation.

Probably unrelated, but: Can you explain how I knew somebody had been involved in a vehicular accident an hour before my sister rang to say she'd crashed her car, but it had taken her an hour to gather her wits and make a phone call?

I'd got as far as the 'J' section in my phonebook (where her number resides)before deciding I was being daft phoning people up and asking if they'd been involved in an RTA

It does sound like you've got some genuine physic abilities there, Strix.

Perhaps a degree of telepathy, as that would explain the situation with your sister? And maybe also the precognitive dream you had - maybe your old boss had some doubts in his mind as to the reliability of that particular employee and had already been thinking of alternatives, ie you, to stand in for her. And you picked up on his thoughts.

StarSparkle

I just had a feling of it, but does it really exist? Have you had it? And have you had Deja vu aswell :roll:

Not sure how it is spelled.

Yep.
It's what happens when 'they' change something in the Matrix... :thumbsup:

It does sound like you've got some genuine physic abilities there, Strix.

Perhaps a degree of telepathy, as that would explain the situation with your sister? And maybe also the precognitive dream you had - maybe your old boss had some doubts in his mind as to the reliability of that particular employee and had already been thinking of alternatives, ie you, to stand in for her. And you picked up on his thoughts.

StarSparkle

Rupert Sheldrake (http://www.sheldrake.org/) is worth reading on these matters. A sage I once met asked him if the idea of morphic resonance came to him through morphic resonance. I don't recall the answer, because I was still laughing at the question!

Strix, have you observed any sort of 'psychic' or precognitive abilities in animals? (I'm perfectly serious, I know first hand of one example).

Apparently the French have a particularly polite form of this phenomenon known as "apres vu".....
or l'esprit d'escalier?

I just had a feling of it, but does it really exist? Have you had it? And have you had Deja vu aswell :roll:

Not sure how it is spelled.

deja-vu is two signals being sent around the brain in quick succession as opposed to the normal one signal. (apparantly) lol

I was watching QI last night, and Alan Davies told an anecdote about one of his friends, Dave.

As Dave repeats himself all the time, he is now known as Daveja vu :D

Rupert Sheldrake (http://www.sheldrake.org/) is worth reading on these matters. A sage I once met asked him if the idea of morphic resonance came to him through morphic resonance. I don't recall the answer, because I was still laughing at the question!


I confess I'm intrigued by the idea of Morphic Resonance.

It would seem to me to explain a lot about the world that is currently inexplicable without taking it into account.

Along with Zero Point Energy, but that's a whole different subject (or is it? :suspect: )

StarSparkle

I have deja vu's all the time. I get them pretty strong as well. Enough for me to tell whoever i am with what exactly has just happened.

Not sure what it is tbh. Quite interested in knowing the science bit about it though.:)

Some years ago I drove into a small town (Chester, I think).
As far as I knew, I had not been there before. Nor did I have a street map of the town (pre-internet).
I did, however feel that I recognised the roads and was able to drive directly to my destination without fault!

The only way that I could rationalise it was that I had, in fact, been there before. But I'm damn sure that I hadn't.

A while ago I went to Japan and was taken to a place called Kamakura City to see the Daibutsu, a very old large Buddha that you can walk round inside of.
From the minute I went in through the door, I had a very strange feeling that I had been in before.
It was very dark inside, but I knew that there was a recess at a certain point and that there was a door there just beyond it.
After we came out and on the journey home, I couldn't get this strange feeling out of my head that I had visited it before.

It does sound like you've got some genuine physic abilities there, Strix.

Perhaps a degree of telepathy, as that would explain the situation with your sister? And maybe also the precognitive dream you had - maybe your old boss had some doubts in his mind as to the reliability of that particular employee and had already been thinking of alternatives, ie you, to stand in for her. And you picked up on his thoughts.

StarSparkle
See, I have always been a believer in the idea of psychic connections with people you are close to, but this scenario, where the bloke who left them in the lurch was unknown to me, and Steve didn't even think of asking me himself - it was an ex-colleague he'd only spoken to minutes before calling me who suggested me.... :confused:

And I don't even really have red hair :hihi:
(My mum and Mr Strix attribute their psychic abilities to their Celtic blood/red hair ;) )

Strix, have you observed any sort of 'psychic' or precognitive abilities in animals? (I'm perfectly serious, I know first hand of one example).
Not that I can recall at the moment - only the recounted tale of my gran's dog knowing that my uncle's car had just turned into the estate. My uncle was just dropping in, unannounced, and was driving a new car. The dog went nuts when he would have been two streets away.

I didn't observe that one though.

Not that I can recall at the moment - only the recounted tale of my gran's dog knowing that my uncle's car had just turned into the estate. My uncle was just dropping in, unannounced, and was driving a new car. The dog went nuts when he would have been two streets away.

I didn't observe that one though.

Funny that! Many years ago I used to have the same thing with a dog which doted on my late wife. She’d go to see her mother at the other end of the city, and return on any bus which took her to within a ten-minute walk of our house. The dog always sat just inside the front door for about 15 minutes before she arrived.

I've had eposides of deja-vu for years, to the point where whole half hour conversations/scenarios have been vividly played out exactly as I 'remembered' them....its spooky but incrdibly intriguing, and I look forward to the next time :D

I have had it one more than one occasion!!!

Its kinda bizarre!

Hmmm, well I was going to start my own topic, but the 'thread starter smart arse thingy' sent me here....

(I'm sure it's done that before too :suspect:):rolleyes: (sorry, I felt compelled to put a silly joke in):hihi:

I've been wandering around the forum tonight, with BBC News 24 on in the background, as per normal - sadly :(:rolleyes:, and in the background noticed on the TV, a lass on a story, and thought, ooooo she's pretty... I'm sure I recognise her... ah well.

Then a short while later, the same woman again, telling the same story. :shocked:

Déjà vu? :nono: I've only just realised how crap BBC News 24 is. It's a 20 minute loop!

Thirty-eight posts and it wasn't even real deja vu? Well, I don't have to read through this thread again!:rolleyes:

Thirty-eight posts and it wasn't even real deja vu? Well, I don't have to read through this thread again!:rolleyes:

Stop moaning. :mad:


*puts a note in diary to resurrect this thread on 1st Sept 2009*:hihi:

Stop moaning. :mad:


*puts a note in diary to resurrect this thread on 1st Sept 2009*:hihi:

*Puts a note in diary not to re-read resurrected deja vu thread on 1st Sept. 2009*:P

Deja Vu is just a glitch in The Matrix - nothing to worry about. Don't any of you watch films?

I seem to be increasingly getting bouts of Deja vu. All my experiences of this come from dreams though, not a sense that I have done this before. In some cases I have been able to stop people and tell them what they were going to say or do next. It seems uncanny and is getting a bit freaky.

Does anyone know what causes these Deja vu to happen from dreams. I'm interested to hear other peoples theories.

Déjà vu is not possible in the literal sense. What may have happened when, for example, you go somewhere that looks familiar when you know you've never been there before, is that you saw the place on TV some time ago and have forgotten!

Otherwise...

You may have had a mini stroke, or perhaps have a brain tumour and have lost the ability to process temporal information, such that you can remember things that have happened, but not the order in which they happened. Thus, you are in fact delusional.

Perhaps you should book an appointment with your GP first thing in the morning. Good luck. :)

I swear i have read this thread before.............

Oh that makes me feel so much better.....cheers Dhimmi. Explain finishing sentences then and knowing whats going to happen next. Its not just people or places I see that sets it off, it's situations and conversations........that's not being delusional now is it.

I swear i have read this thread before.............

LMAO at Mr Squirrel........should have known some jokes would be abound, cheers.

so what's the best event you have predicted?

so what's the best event you have predicted?

Havent predicted anything yet, but dreamt that Madeline McCann was alive and her kidnappers had dyed her hair black, so no one would recognise her. Have actually written this down as it was such a vivid dream.

so what's the best event you have predicted?

Nothing significant, it's daft little quirks and conversations. But last year on holiday I did tell all my mates that we couldnt go into marmaris that night cause something was going to happen regarding a fire. In my dream we couldnt find one of my friends. The dream happened about 6 months before.

A conversation jogged my memory to this dream I had had. My mates thought I was going mad or been out on the lash too much, until that night we went into marmaris much to my protesting, and a row of shops caught fire, with my mate trapped in one of them as she had gone to use a toilet. The power had gone out and there was utter panic as the fire spread on the roofs. All turned out safe and well in the end, but the look on my mates faces as one of them said, see, he told us this was going to happen tonight. Spooky or what?

I seem to be increasingly getting bouts of Deja vu. All my experiences of this come from dreams though, not a sense that I have done this before. In some cases I have been able to stop people and tell them what they were going to say or do next. It seems uncanny and is getting a bit freaky.

Does anyone know what causes these Deja vu to happen from dreams. I'm interested to hear other peoples theories.

yeah similar to me. something happens, always fairly random and never lotto numbers and i think this seems familiar!

shame its not the lottery though, agreeo nthat one...lol

Hang on, there's a huge difference between deja vu and being able to predict the future. Deja vu is the feeling of familiarity associated to a particular event, whereas if you know what someone is going to say before they say it, well that's bordering on precognition.

There's a huge difference. Science has explained deja vu, but precognition, well, that's another matter entirely...

Oh that makes me feel so much better.....cheers Dhimmi. Explain finishing sentences then and knowing whats going to happen next. Its not just people or places I see that sets it off, it's situations and conversations........that's not being delusional now is it.

That's how you remember it. :D

Finishing off sentences is something that some people do. I have a friend and two colleagues who do that, and some times, of course, they are wrong and embarrass themselves! They only do it when the sentence can be predicted - typically in conversation one has a good idea of what is coming next, and can do this with some accuracy, but if you believe that you can finish of a sentence when the end of it cannot be predicted then you are delusional.

Let me give you an example: if I were to go to visit a colleague and she were to hold out her hand and say "Good..." I could reasonably predict that she was going to say "morning" next because I was meeting her at 09:00! If she had said "Good afternoon." I would have been wrong, and surprised!

Don't be superstitious about this. You cannot predict the future, time does not go backwards, and your recollection of events can and likely is falible, if not truly defective. :D

Is it one side of y brain telling the other this has happened before,and somehow it gets crossed.

Finishing off sentences is something that some people do. I have a friend and two colleagues who do that, and some times, of course, they are wrong and embarrass themselves! They only do it when the sentence can be predicted - typically in conversation one has a good idea of what is coming next, and can do this with some accuracy, but if you believe that you can finish of a sentence when the end of it cannot be predicted then you are delusional.


There's a HUGE difference from extrapolating the end of a sentence of someone you know well and predicting an entirely random series of events from dreams.


Don't be superstitious about this. You cannot predict the future, time does not go backwards, and your recollection of events can and likely is falible, if not truly defective.

There's absolutely no evidence that your statement is correct. In fact, there is compelling evidence that something is going on behind the scenes in our brains, but no hard evidence.

So I think to dismiss it entirely is unreasonable.

I think deja vou comes from dreams that you've had definatly. I predicted that my cousin was pregnant.

its the matrix changing........ mr anderson

That's how you remember it. :D

Finishing off sentences is something that some people do. I have a friend and two colleagues who do that, and some times, of course, they are wrong and embarrass themselves! They only do it when the sentence can be predicted - typically in conversation one has a good idea of what is coming next, and can do this with some accuracy, but if you believe that you can finish of a sentence when the end of it cannot be predicted then you are delusional.

Let me give you an example: if I were to go to visit a colleague and she were to hold out her hand and say "Good..." I could reasonably predict that she was going to say "morning" next because I was meeting her at 09:00! If she had said "Good afternoon." I would have been wrong, and surprised!

Don't be superstitious about this. You cannot predict the future, time does not go backwards, and your recollection of events can and likely is falible, if not truly defective. :D

OK then, read one of my previous posts about the fire in Turkey on holiday, the explain to me that I dreamt my cousin was in a car accident in a yellow car, then 3 weeks later it happened, on exactly the same stretch of road I had dreamt about. And the conversation thing, thats a damn lame example to use "Good" and "Morning". Its not the next word I have been right on, its the next few sentences, and no I don't finish off peoples sentences, I listen to see if what they say is what I have dreamt about, or I stop them and tell them thats what they were going to say, and almost everytime, they have been astounded by my explanaition. Expand your mind a little and think in the correct context, then come up with a plausable argument.

There are lots of possible answers to explain it, Naylor, all of them sit in the wonderful world of fringe science.

Maybe one day it will actually explain this bizarre and sometimes wonderful phenomenon.

The sense of deja vu is simply your perception mistakenly experiencing reality for memory simultaneously with events.

Because the conscious mind effectively lags about half a second behind reality, it is even possible for events to trigger memories that appear to be half a second in the future.

It's disquieting, but no more significant than a fart or other bodily function.

I seem to be increasingly getting bouts of Deja vu. All my experiences of this come from dreams though, not a sense that I have done this before. In some cases I have been able to stop people and tell them what they were going to say or do next. It seems uncanny and is getting a bit freaky.

Does anyone know what causes these Deja vu to happen from dreams. I'm interested to hear other peoples theories.

I wouldn't worry about it.

I wouldn't worry about it.


I wouldn't worry about it.

I wouldn't worry about it.
I wouldn't worry about it.

I wouldn't worry about it.

So, what you're basically saying is that you wouldn't worry about it? :P

Deja vu is definitely a very real phenomena, although predicting future events in dreams is not technically Deja Vu, it is more precognition - which I believe is a latent ability within all of us which most people do not know how to tap into. I used to be skeptical about these kind of things, but I have read too many reported cases of people successfully predicting future events to dismiss it.

Deja vu is the strange feeling that you get in a particular situation that you have expereinced it before. For instance, I might be standing in a particular place having a certain conversation, or hearing a certain song on the radio and I will suddenly be struck by the feeling that I have been in exactly this situation before, although I have never dreamed it and cannot possibly have been there.

Deja vu is definitely a very real phenomena, although predicting future events in dreams is not technically Deja Vu, it is more precognition - which I believe is a latent ability within all of us which most people do not know how to tap into. I used to be skeptical about these kind of things, but I have read too many reported cases of people successfully predicting future events to dismiss it.

Deja vu is the strange feeling that you get in a particular situation that you have expereinced it before. For instance, I might be standing in a particular place having a certain conversation, or hearing a certain song on the radio and I will suddenly be struck by the feeling that I have been in exactly this situation before, although I have never dreamed it and cannot possibly have been there.

How can you be certain, you can have like 10 dreams every night and often dont remember all of them.

Im a bit on the fence about the whole thing, on one hand you have so many dreams that you dont remember. If you take the example of going on holiday to Turkey theres a fair chance that because your looking forward to it that you have spent the last few months dreaming about it, and you probably have been thinking about what you could do there.
So couldnt it just be by chance that something which was similar to a dream happened?

And as someone already said deja vu is just the sense that something has happened, our brain does funny things sometimes and this is one of those things where something feels like a memory even though it isnt.


On the other hand time is a strange beast, its reletive so we know it can change.
So whats to say that its not constantly throwing us about, slowing down/speeding up/ going backwards or even stopping. We wouldnt sense it, but could our brains still hold onto bits of memory?




Ofcourse this is a pointless argument, we all know deja vu is just a glitch in the matrix...

How can you be certain, you can have like 10 dreams every night and often dont remember all of them.

Im a bit on the fence about the whole thing, on one hand you have so many dreams that you dont remember. If you take the example of going on holiday to Turkey theres a fair chance that because your looking forward to it that you have spent the last few months dreaming about it, and you probably have been thinking about what you could do there.
So couldnt it just be by chance that something which was similar to a dream happened?

And as someone already said deja vu is just the sense that something has happened, our brain does funny things sometimes and this is one of those things where something feels like a memory even though it isnt.


On the other hand time is a strange beast, its reletive so we know it can change.
So whats to say that its not constantly throwing us about, slowing down/speeding up/ going backwards or even stopping. We wouldnt sense it, but could our brains still hold onto bits of memory?




Ofcourse this is a pointless argument, we all know deja vu is just a glitch in the matrix...

Just to let you know, I had this dream 6 months before I went on holiday, this was before I had even booked it, because it was a last minute booking, so explain that one.

I wouldn't worry about it.

I wouldn't worry about it.

so what's the best event you have predicted?

John Prescott winning Rear of the Year 2009.

(you saw it hear first):D

Just to let you know, I had this dream 6 months before I went on holiday, this was before I had even booked it, because it was a last minute booking, so explain that one.

Definitely not Deja Vu then.

The only way to tell if the OP is a Precog is for him/her to write down every dream they have had and then an independent body could scrutinise them all 6 months later. Why not give it a go on here? Write down your dreams for the next few weeks and we can see if anything came true. I personally don't think you have the ability to see into the future, maybe it was just a hell of a coincedence.

This event in Marmaris, was it reported locally? Do you have dates? It would be nice to be able to check that part of this phenomenon out.

I swear i have read this thread before.............

I thought the same...and after a search....

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