Not the smartest comments to make prior to the game. All those 50-50 decisions will im sure go in favour of Burnley. Shot himself in the foot springs to mind. :loopy:

What a stupid thing to do!

bit harsh to say the ref will favour burnley because of what blackwell said. i'm sure dean hears managers moaning about him(especially if he's that bad)all the time, doubt it will effect how he refs the game

A) i very much doubt that a professional ref will allow himself to be affected by comments like this and

B) If he IS, then surely he will set out to prove blackwell wrong and therefore be more lenient towards united.




(or he could just be getting his excuses in early ;) )

:thumbsup: What Scott said.

Blackwell shouldn't have said anything at all, but what he has said is utter bunkum.
To claim Killgallon 'never touched' McAllister at Hillsborough, is a blatant lie.
I know it, he knows it, and Blades know it. To say this on a national radio station is 'not very bright' as thousands saw it for themselves on Sky.
Yes, I know, before you all start, it wasn't a sending off offence, it was only a yellow carder, and McAllister didn't roll around with the intention of getting Killa sent off.
You can't see one thing, and have a Arsene Wenger, (I did not see it) moment, for summat that happened on the same screen, at the same time.
Blackwell? I shake my head in disbelief quite often.

With it been such a big game he should not have said anything at all, Just hope he does not end up with egg on his face.

Blackwell shouldn't have said anything at all, but what he has said is utter bunkum.
To claim Killgallon 'never touched' McAllister at Hillsborough, is a blatant lie.I know it, he knows it, and Blades know it. To say this on a national radio station is 'not very bright' as thousands saw it for themselves on Sky.
Yes, I know, before you all start, it wasn't a sending off offence, it was only a yellow carder, and McAllister didn't roll around with the intention of getting Killa sent off.
You can't see one thing, and have a Arsene Wenger, (I did not see it) moment, for summat that happened on the same screen, at the same time.
Blackwell? I shake my head in disbelief quite often.

have you not see this ??

i take it you havn't see the footage of this then. plonker

HE NEVER TOUCHED HIM

"Although Kilgallon's foot was raised, video replays showed that contact was minimal and there was little sign of any 'intent' from the Blades defender."

quoted

Blackwell's looking for excuses already...must be collecting his cards on the way out of Wembley.

So did the ref favour Palace on the last game of the season because of what all you Wendy fans said about Warnock possibly playing a weakened side and he deliberately didn't award us a penalty just incase?

have you not see this ??

i take it you havn't see the footage of this then. plonker

HE NEVER TOUCHED HIM

Can't you stop that stupid avatar from bouncing up and down like your lips/fingers?
Plonker?
Must be a mirror in your house somewhere .... that's where you'll find the 'plonker'
You don't have to attack every Owl post, I'm sure you've got a reasonable bone in your body somewhere?

PLONKER

2-1 :hihi:

I was amazed at such an outburst prior to a game of this magnitude ! He has spoken like a fan something Warnock used to do i just hope this does not come back to bite us on the arse ! what i will agree with although i wish he had kept his thoughts to himself is that Dean showed no football brains when he sent off Killa against the Wendy's anyone who understands games of this importance would have issued a yellow ! especially when you have JJ forearm smashing players and getting nothing !!

Lets hope the game is won or lost re football and not a poor ref for either side !

UP THE BLADES !!

I was amazed at such an outburst prior to a game of this magnitude ! He has spoken like a fan something Warnock used to do i just hope this does not come back to bite us on the arse ! what i will agree with although i wish he had kept his thoughts to himself is that Dean showed no football brains when he sent off Killa against the Wendy's anyone who understands games of this importance would have issued a yellow ! especially when you have JJ forearm smashing players and getting nothing !!

Lets hope the game is won or lost re football and not a poor ref for either side !

UP THE BLADES !!

Absolutely spot on 71.
The last thing anybody wants, apart from the Alan Hansen's of this world, is a situation where a refs decision takes up 75% of the after match discussion.

have you not see this ??

i take it you havn't see the footage of this then. plonker

HE NEVER TOUCHED HIM


"Although Kilgallon's foot was raised, video replays showed that contact was minimal and there was little sign of any 'intent' from the Blades defender."

quoted

So you're saying (deludedly) that he never touched him, then in the next post you're saying that there was contact.

None of us are saying that it was a red card offence, but to say that there was no contact is ridiculous. Who are you quoting anyway, your slightly more literate doppelganger The Chief?

Blackwell is right, stupid decision to put that ******** in charge.

Personally, I reckon the FA must have gone out of their way to make this appointment, simply because they knew of the sending-off debacle concerning Dean and Sheffield United.

On the other hand, I'd guess the FA would wish to see United back in the Premier League as much as Messrs Platini and Blatter would have liked to have seen an all-english Champions League final....,

Personally, I reckon the FA must have gone out of their way to make this appointment, simply because they knew of the sending-off debacle concerning Dean and Sheffield United.

On the other hand, I'd guess the FA would wish to see United back in the Premier League as much as Messrs Platini and Blatter would have liked to have seen an all-english Champions League final....,

Couldn't agree more. Seems like the FA don't like anyone who stands up to them - and they don't like Northern Clubs taking the limelight/money from their favoured London Clubs.

Blackwell is right to highlight this pathetic decision by the FA BEFORE the damage is done, not wait until afterwards. The whole thing stinks of sour grapes.

If it's a ploy to scare players into not going for it on the day, then hopefully, we've got more sense than that.

Blackwell knows that after he cried like a baby after that incident at Hull about referees being mean and nasty to him, you got plenty of dodgy decisions go in your favour for a few games afterwards - he's hoping it's going to work again.

Blackwell is right, stupid decision to put that ******** in charge.

getting his excuses in early ,so if you lose he can blame the ref

some of blackwells comments are out of order and i think the FA should be having a word with him .

http://www.thestar.co.uk/sportheadlines/They39re-taking-the-Michael.5293865.jp

Blackwell is right, the other two play offs are reffed by championship refs so why is the championship play off reffed by a premiership prima donna

Blackwell is right, the other two play offs are reffed by championship refs so why is the championship play off reffed by a premiership prima donna

im sure he will do a good unbiased job

Poor ref, always looking to be centre of attention. At least with Blackwell saying this now, you can't just say that he's moaning about him after we lost (if we do).

It's almost like Mr Brooking's looked through who KB gave his lowest referee mark to, and then gave a nudge to the ref's selectors... the FL/PL/FA are as bent as the MPs! *allegedly*


We recently saw probably the best ref in the country for one of the Preston games (Marriner), but seems he was overlooked for this big one. I will be annoyed if on Tuesday morning, the talk is all about the ref, rather than how great we did (or how well Burnley did).

It's almost like Mr Brooking's looked through who KB gave his lowest referee mark to, and then gave a nudge to the ref's selectors... the FL/PL/FA are as bent as the MPs! *allegedly*

so Mike Dean was given the play off final by the FA as a way of Trevor Brooking getting back at United over the Tevez farse ?

so Mike Dean was given the play off final by the FA as a way of Trevor Brooking getting back at United over the Tevez farse ?

No...I was joking...

Just seen the play off match this afternoon and what a good performance he gave, just let the game flow, got the cards out only when needed. his son is doing the Millwall game tomorrow. Its a shame the fellow this afternoon isnt in charge of our match. The premiership refs are all prima donnas who think the fans have gone to watch them. People like Styles, Webb and Riley have egos bigger than Simon Cowells

whoever the football league choose to ref a game has nothing to do with the managers

whoever the football league choose to ref a game has nothing to do with the managers


No they should not but I still think the best championship ref, i.e. the one who has got top marks over the season, should be in charge of the championship final. Leave the premiership prima donnas to ref premiership matches

No they should not but I still think the best championship ref, i.e. the one who has got top marks over the season, should be in charge of the championship final. Leave the premiership prima donnas to ref premiership matches

so how is a manager allowed to get away with slaughtering the ref in charge of the game ?
surely this kind of behaviour needs stamping down on -what happened to the respect campaign

so how is a manager allowed to get away with slaughtering the ref in charge of the game ?
surely this kind of behaviour needs stamping down on -what happened to the respect campaign


Respect has to earned. You have to bear in mind now all the premiership refs are now full time referees, dont have to work now like they use to. Do you now think because of this that the standard of reffing is better, because I certainly dont. Blackwell is correct about what he said about Mike dean. if your own manager on the touchline agreed it was only a yellow card for Kilgallon, why do you think the muppet showed a red. As a qualified, now retired, class 2 ref, it was a poor decision, minimal contact, miles away from goal, players covering, yellow card

Couldn't agree more. Seems like the FA don't like anyone who stands up to them - and they don't like Northern Clubs taking the limelight/money from their favoured London Clubs.

Blackwell is right to highlight this pathetic decision by the FA BEFORE the damage is done, not wait until afterwards. The whole thing stinks of sour grapes.

If it's a ploy to scare players into not going for it on the day, then hopefully, we've got more sense than that.

Yet you were all quite happy to let a honorary Blade (Howard Webb) ref Birmingham/Reading before the damage was done.
As any damage was likely to be in United's favour, Webb's appointment was never questioned by Blades.
Luckily, Webb didn't make any contentious decisions in the Reading game, so all went off without a hitch. Any 'issues' from Dean, and your lot will be on to him like a packa lions.
Try thinking some times.

Respect has to earned. You have to bear in mind now all the premiership refs are now full time referees, dont have to work now like they use to. Do you now think because of this that the standard of reffing is better, because I certainly dont. Blackwell is correct about what he said about Mike dean. if your own manager on the touchline agreed it was only a yellow card for Kilgallon, why do you think the muppet showed a red. As a qualified, now retired, class 2 ref, it was a poor decision, minimal contact, miles away from goal, players covering, yellow card

The sending off of Killgallon was wrong.
Most people have said it a million times, but the ref's decision is (unfortunately) final, and every team has to suffer poor refereeing decisions week in, week out.
I don't think Dean had any negative feelings towards United.
He may have now.

Yet you were all quite happy to let a honorary Blade (Howard Webb) ref Birmingham/Reading before the damage was done.
As any damage was likely to be in United's favour, Webb's appointment was never questioned by Blades.
Luckily, Webb didn't make any contentious decisions in the Reading game, so all went off without a hitch. Any 'issues' from Dean, and your lot will be on to him like a packa lions.
Try thinking some times.

Just to put you correct earwiggo. Mr webb is a Millers fan, i know that for a fact

Yet you were all quite happy to let a honorary Blade (Howard Webb) ref Birmingham/Reading before the damage was done.
As any damage was likely to be in United's favour, Webb's appointment was never questioned by Blades.
Luckily, Webb didn't make any contentious decisions in the Reading game, so all went off without a hitch. Any 'issues' from Dean, and your lot will be on to him like a packa lions.
Try thinking some times.


it was wendy fans trying to get a rise on here. saying webbs a blade so reading will win and warnock will let united win blah blah blah. birmingham won and we did'nt. been the other way round you lot would have been on to us lack a packa girls. we have not got a history of being corrupt we leave that to you lot. try thinking some times :loopy:

Just to put you correct earwiggo. Mr webb is a Millers fan, i know that for a fact


earwiggo does'nt let facts get in his way mate.

it was wendy fans trying to get a rise on here. saying webbs a blade so reading will win and warnock will let united win blah blah blah. birmingham won and we did'nt. been the other way round you lot would have been on to us lack a packa girls. we have not got a history of being corrupt we leave that to you lot. try thinking some times :loopy:

but by his own admission -he is very grateful for what the blades did to help rotherham .

I did say honorary.
United helped Rovverum out with players, dosh etc, and Webb, 'would always be grateful' for the good wishes from Sheffield United.

Helo BB :loopy:

but by his own admission -he is very grateful for what the blades did to help rotherham .

all rotherham fans should be gratefull. we helped them survive loaned them players and still paid there wages. beam back that wendy charged us for the profits went to rotherham.

birmingham beat reading and we stayed down. he really did help us out. :loopy:

Helo BB :loopy:

wrong again. have a day off pal complete :loopy:

Wembleybound. :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:
Gunna look a proper plonker on Tuesday if you get beat.
Bit of a 'too temporary' name to be a serious poster surely, or are you going to keep the name for the next hundred years, just in case?
Obviously, some dork just on here to post the usual Blade drivel.
I suppose I'm gonna get another pm inviting me to the Dev on Herries Road to have my head caved in?
I hope Burnley get 6.

Wembleybound. :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:
Gunna look a proper plonker on Tuesday if you get beat.
Bit of a 'too temporary' name to be a serious poster surely, or are you going to keep the name for the next hundred years, just in case?
Obviously, some dork just on here to post the usual Blade drivel.
I suppose I'm gonna get another pm inviting me to the Dev on Herries Road to have my head caved in?
I hope Burnley get 6.

i hav'nt got a clue what your on about earwigg. going off again on one of your bitter campains to get someone banned. if you cant hack it do us all a favour and do one. would'nt go nowhere near herries road (i'll let you into a secret) its near where your supposed team play. give me london road all the time. by the way i've reported that post.

Wembleybound. :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:
Gunna look a proper plonker on Tuesday if you get beat.
Bit of a 'too temporary' name to be a serious poster surely, or are you going to keep the name for the next hundred years, just in case?
Obviously, some dork just on here to post the usual Blade drivel.
I suppose I'm gonna get another pm inviting me to the Dev on Herries Road to have my head caved in?
I hope Burnley get 6.

i had one of those PM`S as well mate from a person who was banned a while ago -but that was a differnt chap.
ive said good luck to the genuine blades on here already

i had one of those PM`S as well mate from a person who was banned a while ago -but that was a differnt chap.
ive said good luck to the genuine blades on here already

was it anything to do with a certain glam rock star mr benn.

tread carefully earwiggo you dont want to be in his gang. :suspect:

i had one of those PM`S as well mate from a person who was banned a while ago -but that was a differnt chap.
ive said good luck to the genuine blades on here already

Blades.
Where there's no sense, there's no feeling.
Mine was from a 'different chap' as well, but they all know who they are, and they all p*ss in the same pot.
Can't articulate very well, so try to frighten people.
Owls don't do that, we're far too educated.

Blades.
Where there's no sense, there's no feeling.
Mine was from a 'different chap' as well, but they all know who they are, and they all p*ss in the same pot.
Can't articulate very well, so try to frighten people.
Owls don't do that, we're far too educated.

did'nt bb complain about mr benn sending him threatening pm's to which bb called his bluff and offered to meet him to discuss his problem only for mr benns arse to explode :hihi::hihi:

its just banter to me. if you give you have to take. you two clowns cant hack that. :loopy:

right wembleybound is now boozerbound. have a good night girls not here to answer you back for a whilst. enjoy

Can't be ar**d.
You can't educate pork.
I'm off.

did'nt bb complain about mr benn sending him threatening pm's to which bb called his bluff and offered to meet him to discuss his problem only for mr benns arse to explode :hihi::hihi:

its just banter to me. if you give you have to take. you two clowns cant hack that. :loopy:

right wembleybound is now boozerbound. have a good night girls not here to answer you back for a whilst. enjoy

enjoy your alco pops :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Can't be ar**d.
You can't educate pork.
I'm off.

oi you've not got my permission to use that phrase:hihi:

oi you've not got my permission to use that phrase:hihi:

That phrase is probably twice as old as you! .... and me. ;)
And I'm ancient. :hihi:

That phrase is probably twice as old as you! .... and me. ;)
And I'm ancient. :hihi:

I'm not going to argue with that :rolleyes:
I've been using it over thirty cough cough years

I'm not going to argue with that :rolleyes:
I've been using it over thirty cough cough years

the good MrEarwiggo is so old he can remember the last time the blades won owt:P

Steady! :hihi:

Steady! :hihi:

a blade i know said his great great grandfather celebrated that day ith a few beers and a ride home on his penny farthing:D

the good MrEarwiggo is so old he can remember the last time the blades won owt:P

And there was me thinking you were going to say he was owd enough to remember when Wednesday were a massive club:hihi::hihi::hihi:

Looks like our managers comments did backfire, I was of the opinion that it worked for Moyes so it could be our masterstroke, however, I was wrong.
Mr Dean is obviously the wrong ref to have tried it with, an arrogant man who gave us the **** you attitude.
Life goes on and I expect we will see Mr Dean about 10 times next season

Looks like our managers comments did backfire, I was of the opinion that it worked for Moyes so it could be our masterstroke, however, I was wrong.
Mr Dean is obviously the wrong ref to have tried it with, an arrogant man who gave us the **** you attitude.
Life goes on and I expect we will see Mr Dean about 10 times next season

more than likely be reffing the derbies

the good MrEarwiggo is so old he can remember the last time the blades won owt:P

I bet he can't remember the last time you went to a game.

Try thinking some times.

:hihi::hihi:Yeah, must try that - thanks for your example. :hihi:

more than likely be reffing the derbies

Nailed on wins for Wednesday then!!

Nailed on wins for Wednesday then!!

id rather have him then Howard "rotherham blade" Webb:thumbsup:

id rather have him then Howard "rotherham blade" Webb:thumbsup:

After last season 'sending off' of Killa at the sty and the Wembley 'non' penalties i'm not surprised you'd rather have Mike Dean.

3 blades sent off in 2 matches!!!

Maybe it's not really a good idea to publicly slate the ref for a week before the match, and then expect any 50/50 decisions to go in your favour...

Maybe it's not really a good idea to publicly slate the ref for a week before the match, and then expect any 50/50 decisions to go in your favour...

not the best idea was it

They should have never let Mike Dean ref the match anyway due to his connections with the blades and his brother Brian.

After last season 'sending off' of Killa at the sty and the Wembley 'non' penalties i'm not surprised you'd rather have Mike Dean.

3 blades sent off in 2 matches!!!

I can't believe some people STILL debate that horrendous kung fu kick that Killgallon did on McAllister. Blinded by red and white stupidity.

They should have never let Mike Dean ref the match anyway due to his connections with the blades and his brother Brian.

very good point -the Blades kept that one quiet :P

i was sat behind the dugout. and have to admit mcallister made it look much worse than it was. even our manager said it was never a sending off.

We've been here so many times before........

The ref did what he had to do - send someone off over a kick above waist height with studs showing.

Harsh or not, the ref did what the rules state he had to do.

You can't blame him for that.

well put Frank -he applied the letter of the Law . if he didnt ,he would have been removed from reffing games by the FA

Maybe it's not really a good idea to publicly slate the ref for a week before the match, and then expect any 50/50 decisions to go in your favour...

whoever taught KB reverse psychology (in this case, that by putting Dean's dubious standards in the spotlight might make him give more balanced decisions) needs pegging!

It only works if the ref in question actually has any feeling for the game - Mr Dean has proved for a long time he only loves the spotlight of the camera, and if shafting a Yorkshire club helps him to get more column inches, he doesn't give a stuff...

He's that bad, I think i'd prefer to be reffed by Rob 'intent' Styles ... that bad! Probably get a fairer game with Brian Laws in charge...or even Mr Benn (either the fictional tv version or the SF version):)

whoever taught KB reverse psychology (in this case, that by putting Dean's dubious standards in the spotlight might make him give more balanced decisions) needs pegging!

It only works if the ref in question actually has any feeling for the game - Mr Dean has proved for a long time he only loves the spotlight of the camera, and if shafting a Yorkshire club helps him to get more column inches, he doesn't give a stuff...

He's that bad, I think i'd prefer to be reffed by Rob 'intent' Styles ... that bad! Probably get a fairer game with Brian Laws in charge...or even Mr Benn :)
id send off 6 baldes players ,and give 5 penalties against them ,all in the interest of fairness mate :thumbsup:

We've been here so many times before........

The ref did what he had to do - send someone off over a kick above waist height with studs showing.

Harsh or not, the ref did what the rules state he had to do.

You can't blame him for that.

We all know Mike Dean refs games to the letter of the law, common sense plays no part in reffing.

We all know Mike Dean refs games to the letter of the law, common sense plays no part in reffing.

end of the day if a player didnt put his foot face high,he wouldnt be sent off

end of the day if a player didnt put his foot face high,he wouldnt be sent off

Come on now Mr B, that's just TOO straight forward and sensible for em to understand.

end of the day if a player didnt put his foot face high,he wouldnt be sent off

He didn't put his foot face high - chest high at most, with the other player motioning downwards already... If every player got sent off that did that in each game, you would rarely see games finish 11-a-side... particularly if you're going to go all 'letter of the law' on all of the other laws too...

end of the day if a player didnt put his foot face high,he wouldnt be sent off

Foot face high, were watching different games? that dwarf McCallister is about 5'8 and was stooping down already.

As someone else said if every player got the same treatment as Killgallon no match would end in 11 a side - no point in aruging over an event that happened 8 months ago, Killgallon was a bit silly but no malice was intended and a yellow would have been sufficiant but with McCallister turning like a roast pig and Laws waving his arms like a mad man on the touchline the ref was easily infulenced.

Foot face high, were watching different games? that dwarf McCallister is about 5'8 and was stooping down already.

As someone else said if every player got the same treatment as Killgallon no match would end in 11 a side - no point in aruging over an event that happened 8 months ago, Killgallon was a bit silly but no malice was intended and a yellow would have been sufficiant but with McCallister turning like a roast pig and Laws waving his arms like a mad man on the touchline the ref was easily infulenced.

like you say it was 8 months ago so i'm only going to say this about it. mcallister wasnt stooping too much, it was studs showing into his chest and yes a yellow would of been fine but from where i was sitting in the game it looked nasty and i dont blame the ref sending him off, if the ref could look at a replay at the time and still sent him off then fair enough but he hasnt. mistakes happen and unless fans want video evidence used on all decisions then refs cant be perfect

refs get too vmuch stick ,they have to be left to get on with the game . of course they will make mistakes ,but so do players

He didn't put his foot face high - chest high at most, with the other player motioning downwards already... If every player got sent off that did that in each game, you would rarely see games finish 11-a-side... particularly if you're going to go all 'letter of the law' on all of the other laws too...


Foot face high, were watching different games? that dwarf McCallister is about 5'8 and was stooping down already.

As someone else said if every player got the same treatment as Killgallon no match would end in 11 a side - no point in aruging over an event that happened 8 months ago, Killgallon was a bit silly but no malice was intended and a yellow would have been sufficiant but with McCallister turning like a roast pig and Laws waving his arms like a mad man on the touchline the ref was easily infulenced.


Now watch this at 1 minute 7 seconds:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFI1PTo70cg

1. Foot is chest high.

2. Studs are showing

3. Mcallister is not stooping down - he is actually jumping at the time - his head is facing down - his body is straight.

4. Contact is clearly made

5. contact is made on Mcallisters arm and back - well above waist height.

6. It is at an approaching angle to Mcallister who is sprinting at the time, so it must have been a hard impact which would have caused injury.

7. All the above go towards backing the rule, which is that it's a sending off offence.

you are now making the same mistake as me -assuming our friends with the red and white blinkers understand the rules :D

Like the one about if we lose, sue?

Like the one about if we lose, sue?

£25m says we were right :D