Anybody any memories i used to live on freedom road my family still live there and have done since late 70's

Discuss Please!!!!

Anybody any memories i used to live on freedom road my family still live there and have done since late 70's

Discuss Please!!!!

OK OK!!!:hihi:
I lived on Heavygate Rd from 1961 and went to St Josephs school, but knew others from Bolehill school.
We used to play on the Bolehills a lot.
I remember sitting on the steps of Walkley library most evenings, as a 13-14 yr old with my mates-sorted the world out and discussed how we would spend our future fortunes when we married someone rich, famous and utterly GORGEOUS.
Still live in the area.....and none of my dreams came true:(

My mother once lived at No 123 and a schoolfriend lived about third of way down on the left. My ancestors also owned the Freedom House. Also attended the Boy's Brigade at the church (is it still there?) near the bottom.

I used to be the paper boy in the mid to late sixties before I joined the Army good fun in Walkley, spent most of my time playing knock down ginger and scaling the back walls First pint in the Otley and used to frequent the Upperthorpe Hotel still do occasionally

Billy B

I was born in walkley on Camm St, I lived in Hoole St and Burgoyne Rd, great place, lots of good memories.

I remember the picture house on South Rd & the 'sasparilla' shop near Lentons fruit & veg, sauls grocers and the pikelet shop to name a few.

I remember an old lady who used to sell cornets of home made ice cream in a little shop opposite the library...was that the sasparilla shop too?

i lived at Channing street left there in 71

We lived at 41 walkley st in the late 60s- early 70s, does anyone remember amblers butcher further down the road? [we still owe him a few quid for all the meat we had on tick] :)

If I remember right , my mum and dad had a house on Waller Road, next to a cemetary entrance? until I was about 5, then we moved to Dronfield. We'd have left there about 1969.

I lived at 128 freedom road i love walkley

I remember an old lady who used to sell cornets of home made ice cream in a little shop opposite the library...was that the sasparilla shop too?

No the sasperella shop was Hartley's the Herbalists, it was where the grass is opposite Netto.
You've jogged my memory about the ice cream shop, opposite the library, Could it have been called something like walkley dairies.
heading from there towards town, was a barbers shop. The barber died while cutting someones hair.
A man used to sell fruit and veg from a cart at the top of either Freedom Rd. or Carr Rd.
In the fifties an old guy used to walk up and down with a barrow, delivering for somone I think, it could have been for Jacksons.
Where the fireplace shop is nearer town, was an old fashioned drapers shop, buttons zips cloth. When you paid, the money went on a wire to the cashier.
At the bottom of Greenhouse street, where the shops were built in the 60s, within the garden of the doctors surgery. There used to be a Tardis type police box, with a blue light, very Dixon of Dock Green.
Accross Walkley Rd from the library the derelict land, which now has flats, was the site of a Billiards Hall before the war, I think.
What happened to it and when I've no idea.
Next to the library used to be a newsagents, the name escapes me, A couple in their 60s who raced greyhounds. He always had a cigarette in his mouth and marked the papers up in a haze of smoke.
Another landmark was Mr Rozen, standing outside his shoe shop, which was probably one of the shops demolished, opposite Netto.
I remember seeing him standing outside his shop on Barbour Rd. Twenty years later, he looked exactly the same.

The bloke who died whilst cutting someones hair must have been old Mr Binks.

The shop with the overhead wire (cashier system) was hawksfords at the top of Hoole St.

I remember the shops being built in the Doctors garden at the bottom of Greenhow St, there was a coffee bar & a plumbers merchant

Other shops that come to mind were Slacks the bakers, Wrays, Tandys and Brays were all butchers, gowers & burgons and the co-op on heavygate rd

The bloke who died whilst cutting someones hair must have been old Mr Binks.
There was a gents hairdressers opposite the library (Toms I believe) where the hairdresser choked on his false teeth.
Mr Binks cut my hair for me when I joined the army in 1966, I was the only recruit who didn't need a haircut at the start of basic training.

We lived at 41 walkley st in the late 60s- early 70s, does anyone remember amblers butcher further down the road? [we still owe him a few quid for all the meat we had on tick] :)Colin Amblers Brother (Ted) worked on BT with me in the 80s.

JOSE LOY,MYRNA LOY,JACK LOY all lived at 111 Daniel hill street oposite the bakery and next door to the bakery..they lived there from the 1930s until the 1950s and 1960s when they flew the nest. Most of the topics above are recalled by them..thanks for the memories.........

Next to the library used to be a newsagents, the name escapes me...

My memories of Walkley don't go back to the 1950s (my uncle lived on Cundy Street in the 1960s) but in the 1973 directory it is shown as Bushforth's.

My memories of Walkley don't go back to the 1950s (my uncle lived on Cundy Street in the 1960s) but in the 1973 directory it is shown as Bushforth's.

Sorry hillsboro', you aren't allowed on this site, you are welcome to read it and I'm sure you will have some Photos for us but actually commenting, I'm not sure.
Perhaps anything north of Walkley St and the bottom of walkley lane, will be OK.
While I'm on, If Crookes reads this then, keep your comments South of Heavygate and the Bole Hills please.
We are a proud lot from Walkley and endeavour to maintain a pure Walkley Race.

Colin Amblers Brother (Ted) worked on BT with me in the 80s.

I recall Eric Ambler a bit younger than me at Bole Hill School.
Another walkley character I remember was Fred Deplage (Sp.)
When I was about 10, he would shout after me, Nathen Carrots. When I was 25 and not ginger anymore, I'd still get Nathen Carrots. He used to tell me tales about my dad and grandad poaching.
If he is still with us he will be 70 odd now.

I also rember Ron and Norman Goff friends of my dad.
Ron lived off South Rd. Might have been Industry Street, went everywhere on a motorbike, triumph I think. My dad said he was 21 stone when he was 21
I can still picture him engulfing the bike when he sat on it.
There was also a man lived somewhere at the far end of Bole Hill Rd, he used to walk about in an RAF battle dress Jachet with his arm stuck down the back of his neck. As kids we'd poke fun at him, I've no idea who he was or what his story was.

I recall Eric Ambler a bit younger than me at Bole Hill School.

I also rember Ron and Norman Goff friends of my dad.
Ron lived off South Rd. Might have been Industry Street, went everywhere on a motorbike, triumph I think. My dad said he was 21 stone when he was 21
.

The Amblers that we're talking about had a butchers shop on Daniel Hill Street (continuation of walkley St).

Regarding the guy in Industry St yes I remember him; quite big looked like he was riding a little BSA Bantam when in fact it was a big twin.

The Amblers that we're talking about had a butchers shop on Daniel Hill Street (continuation of walkley St).

Regarding the guy in Industry St yes I remember him; quite big looked like he was riding a little BSA Bantam when in fact it was a big twin.

Tiger 110 I think

Tiger 110 I thinkIf there'd been a 'Royal Society For The prevention Of Cruelty To Motor Cycles' he'd have been shot at dawn for what he did.:D

(Only Joking)

My memories of Walkley don't go back to the 1950s (my uncle lived on Cundy Street in the 1960s) but in the 1973 directory it is shown as Bushforth's.

I live in Palm Street 1963-68 and the name sounds familiar.

We live in Parsonage Street from 68 to 86 but my wife lived in Industry Street from 45 to 66 . hillsbro is that Bushforth's refering to the paper shop as I seem to recall Alan Rushforth having the paper shop when I moved up there in 68 he used to go on holiday to Moscow a few times way back then as I worked abroad quite a lot at that time but I was intrigued by his photo's of Red Square etc. which he would show me as I used to bulk buy my full strength from him as you could not get them abroad or duty free and I was usually in his shop for around half a hour rabbiting.Brenda my wife worked at Slacks bread shop from about 80 untill we moved in 86

I remember Rushforths hardwhare shop opposite St Mary's Church, they had a big Parrafine tank in the backyard.

We live in Parsonage Street from 68 to 86 but my wife lived in Industry Street from 45 to 66 .
I lived in Cundy St from 1950 to 1966 although my Mother lived there up until 1992.
Ian Bailey who I still see lived in Industry St in those days.

...hillsbro is that Bushforth's refering to the paper shop as I seem to recall Alan Rushforth having the paper shop when I moved up there in 68 he used to go on holiday to Moscow a few times ....

Yep - I just had a look; I misread the name and it's Rushforth's. It was unusual to go to Russia in the 60s; I went several times in the late 70s when tourism had got going a bit more. I bet you wouldn't have smoked the Russian fags, though....:gag:

Does anyone remember Dr Lahiff and Dr Ridgwick at Walkley House Medical Centre on Greenhow Street? In the 1960s I used to go to both as it had become a joint practice with the Stannington surgery (Dr Bryson and others) where I used to live. I think Dr Lahiff died long ago but Jack Ridgwick is still enjoying retirement at 85, although not very good on his feet nowadays.

Yep - I just had a look; I misread the name and it's Rushforth's. It was unusual to go to Russia in the 60s; I went several times in the late 70s when tourism had got going a bit more. I bet you wouldn't have smoked the Russian fags, though....:gag:

Does anyone remember Dr Lahiff and Dr Ridgwick at Walkley House Medical Centre on Greenhow Street? In the 1960s I used to go to both as it had become a joint practice with the Stannington surgery (Dr Bryson and others) where I used to live. I think Dr Lahiff died long ago but Jack Ridgwick is still enjoying retirement in his late 80s, although not very good on his feet nowadays.Wasn't there a tennis court wher the shops are now?

I don't remember a tennis court but I don't think I went to the surgery before the shops were built. The doctor's surgery must have had a large garden to judge from entries in directories (access from both South Road and Greenhow Street).

I think Dr Lahif died in the early 1960s.
His daughter Anna went to Notre Dame and his son Tim died tragically in his late teens/early twenties I seem to remember

I think Dr Lahif died in the early 1960s.
His daughter Anna went to Notre Dame and his son Tim died tragically in his late teens/early twenties I seem to remember

Yes, I remember that Tim took his own life - it was reported in The Star at the time, so very sad. As Lahiff is such an uncommon surname it wasn't difficult to look up father and son on findmypast.com. I found a Michael J. Lahiff who died in Sheffield in the third quarter of 1966, aged 58, and a Timothy James Lahiff (d.o.b. 1 September 1951) who died in Sheffield in the third quarter of 1983.

There was a wet fish shop opposite St Mary's church.
One of the old fashioned ones, open fronted with a white tiled slap, that the supermarkets try to replicate, but don't quite pull off.
I also used the greemhow St.surgery as a kid my mum and three lads had Ridgewick, my dad had Bryson. Two Brysons as I recall, father and son
The current system of appointments and clocking in when you arrive at the doctors takes away some of the community spirit.
When ever you went in the waiting room, which was always full, after a couple of seconds of silence, you would say
"who am I after".
"Who are you seeing love"
"Dr Ridgewick"
Then the whole batting order would be recited.
"Its Mrs so and so then old Mr something or other".
Should the doctor, in my case Ridgewick have to go out on a call, you'd wait patiently (no punn intended) and someone would tell you what was wrong with you, and who else had it.
All this was constantly interupted by some old bloke with emphasima (Sp.) having a coughing fit.
Its funny what you remember, the waiting room had long bench seats, made from large sheets of Plywood bent into a chair shape, with holes drilled in it to creat a pattern.
I think I need to get out more.

I also knew both Brysons - John O'Kane Bryson was Irish-born and a good, traditional GP. If you were ill in the middle of the night he would come in his VW Beetle and visit. His son Shaun was just as good - he studied medicine in Ireland and as a student he lost his left eye in a motorcycling accident. Sadly he had a serious heart condition and died in 1977, aged only 40; his wife was also a GP - they lived at Froggatt with their two children.

Oh - the waiting room.... I seemed to wait hours in there, but it could indeed be quite entertaining. One old dear gave me (and everyone else) a detailed account of her grisly operation and the awful after-effects, but she couldn't praise Dr (Shaun) Bryson enough. Poor Dr Lahiff - sometimes he would emerge from his consulting room towards the end of evening surgery and ask if there were any more "customers", only to see half a dozen people (with emphysema, lumbago, carbuncles or just plain idleitis) waiting 'patiently' to see Jack Ridgwick, whom they preferred.

The perforated bent-plywood bench seats were just like the one in Garnett's barber shop in Middlewood Road. Oooops...., sorry, Tooeg, I'm trespassing again. I'll go back to Dykes Hall Road and keep quiet, honest I will..;)

OK Hillsbro you're an early riser, you can have a day pass.
I recall Ridgewick, in our house on Bole Hill Rd, telling my dad that fishermen put maggots in their mouths before putting them on the hook. My dad said it's to warm them up so they wriggle better.
Ridgewick lived on Bell Hagg Rd. at the corner of Lark St.
He had a son and a daughter they would both be in their late fifties now.
My Mum worked at the Pikelet(Sp.) shop opposite the library for Mrs Milnes, who lived on Stannington View or somewhere similar.
She gave the job up when we became posh and moved to Crosspool in '65.
I remember sledging in the fifties from the top of Kelly's Walk ( the footpath from the bus stop opposite Bole Hill school), right down to the bottom of Bell Hagg road.
with probably only one car parked on the road and no moving traffic at all.

Ridgewick lived on Bell Hagg Rd. at the corner of Lark St. He had a son and a daughter they would both be in their late fifties now.

Judith will be 61 and Adrian 58; Judith lives in Leeds, Adrian is a dentist in Gloucestershire. I remember going to the house on Bell Hagg Road to collect prescriptions etc.
I also remember the pikelet shop; it survived longer than Moule's in Middlewood Road. Near there (maybe on the corner of Palm Street) was "Roy's Bistro" - does anyone remember this? It flourished briefly in the late 1970s and was excellent (you had to book days in advance to get a table) but it just seemed to fade away.

Judith will be 61 and Adrian 58; Judith lives in Leeds, Adrian is a dentist in Gloucestershire. I remember going to the house on Bell Hagg Road to collect prescriptions etc.
I also remember the pikelet shop; it survived longer than Moule's in Middlewood Road. Near there (maybe on the corner of Palm Street) was "Roy's Bistro" - does anyone remember this? It flourished briefly in the late 1970s and was excellent (you had to book days in advance to get a table) but it just seemed to fade away.

Roy's Bistro at the top of Industry St. became an Italian, which was then taken over by the chef Vito, who named it after himself.
I think originally it was Boots before Roy had it.
Just along from Boots towards the library was and maybe still is Jacksons the grocers,which became Jacksons minimart (move with the times).
You may remember their son at King Teds, the year below you Hillsbro', Jimmy, a little lad with a load of blond hair in some sort of Teddy boy style.
The Italian was Pepe's I think, he then moved around a bit, Heeley, Tickhill or I might be completely wrong.

I hadn't realised that Roy's Bistro was as far down as Industry Street, though I recognise the building now on Google Earth, with the entrance at the side. Roy's food was excellent; it's a pity the bistro didn't survive long.
My goodness - Jimmy Jackson; I used to sell him stamps that I had on approval...
Jack Ridgwick is now in a care home at Nether Edge but I saw him not so long ago and he was still very much his old self.

Hi hillsbro, it wasn't me who went to Russia it was Alan who had the paper shop I was lorry driving and Europe was far enough for me as I could be away for several weeks at a time on the odd ocasion it ran into months but only occasionally.

I recall Ridgewick, in our house on Bole Hill Rd, telling my dad that fishermen put maggots in their mouths before putting them on the hook. My dad said it's to warm them up so they wriggle better.

Most fisherman did that then, including myself, but not the ones that were dyed bright pink or yellow as that dye was found to be a carcinogen!

I hadn't realised that Roy's Bistro was as far down as Industry Street, though I recognise the building now on Google Earth, with the entrance at the side. Roy's food was excellent; it's a pity the bistro didn't survive long.
My goodness - Jimmy Jackson; I used to sell him stamps that I had on approval...
Jack Ridgwick is now in a care home at Nether Edge but I saw him not so long ago and he was still very much his old self.

If I had stamps on approval I always sent them back. I was dicussing this a few years ago with someone who just kept them and never paid. What concerns me is that I never thought of that.
I never went in the restaurant when it was Roy's even though I met him a few times, my pal had the garage accross the road.
It was the booking three weeks in advance that always cobbled me. I was and still am, prone to deciding on the night where to go. Which tends to limit my choice sometimes to people I know who will find me a table.

Back to the main topic.
My great grandfather, a quarryman lived and brought up about 8 kids at Watercress cottage, on the left, next to the water trough on Walkley Bank Rd. as you head out, towards Rivelin.
It was in a little dip at the bottom of Milners field.
It was demolished to make way for housing in the early 60s, I think.
Looking back if it had survived a few more years it would have been done up and been a fabulous little cottage. I think there were two attached, at right angles to the road, which I should think was just a track when they lived there.
It was affectionately called "the wattercressoil"
I don't suppose you've any photos, have you Hillsbro.
I remember taking a handfull of watercress home and my mum dumping it because it was all battered and inedible.

Hillsbro what do you know about Racker Way. Its only just below Walkley Bank Rd. and goes to more or less the same place, so why was it there, or is it older than the road
Opposite watercress cottage the steep wood is the Donkey Wood where donkeys were tethered, apparently. I'm not sure when. Is that something to do with Racker Way.
Just down the river from the paddling pool. If you walk through the thicket at the bottom of Roscoe wood, there are the concrete remains of an outdoor swimming pool, which ceased sometime before the war.
It was always a dark and dismal place to play as kids.

Next time I'm in the area I want to look in Walkley cemetery.
Apparently some of my grandads brothers are there, died in action or as a result of wounding in the 1st war.
Someone did an article in the star last poppy day.
One brother the oldest I think, was Horatio.
In the early 50s my older brother came home having learned about ratios at school, to which my grandad said "I had a brother called ratio". Its gone down in family folk lore, as these things do.

My grandad had an army disability pension. I think it was about half a crown (I know I can say that because only geriatrics read this part of the forum), it was for mustard gas poisoning, in the trenches.
In the 50's my grandad and a few other old men used to sit on the wall at the end of Bole Hill Rd. just before the top of Compton St. a few pairs of semis there now (didn't a car or lorry once miss the bend from Heavygate and go through the front window).
Or sometimes further down opposite the library.
All dressed exactly the same. Collarless white shirt, heavy brown corderoy trousers up to their chests, thick brown leather belt, black jacket, black waistcoat and black army boots. The shirt was changed now and again but I think the rest was changed when it wore out and not before.
This was my dad's dad, all my mum ever said about him was "Scruffy old Bugger". I think Albert steptoe was modelled on him.
I've just remembered up to his death in 1956 he used to wear his wifes false teeth to eat meat, He could manage everything else with his gums. The joke was she died in 1936.
Thats all for now folks.

Hi hillsbro, it wasn't me who went to Russia it was Alan who had the paper shop I was lorry driving and Europe was far enough for me as I could be away for several weeks at a time on the odd ocasion it ran into months but only occasionally.

So you said; I was just remarking on how unusual it was for anyone to go to Russia in the 1960s (even residents of the Socialist Republic of South Yorkshire ;)). It got easier and cheaper in the 1970s. In 1984 I came out of a Moscow hotel and was surprised to see a Carnell's coach in the car park. Lorry drivers are the salt of the earth, as I learned in my hitch-hiking days.

Two branches of my ancestry lived on the top side of South Road - great-grandparents on Duncombe Street and a great-uncle on Matlock Road. They were very religious, as it seems many were in Walkley in days of old - or maybe it was just the Robinsons...

There was an off-licence on Commonside that used to sell malt whisky on draught - does anyone know if they still do?

:love:Loving this thread!!
Thanks everyone:love:

....It was affectionately called "the wattercressoil" I don't suppose you've any photos, have you Hillsbro.
Sorry no, I have nothing of Walkley Bank Road; most of my old postcards are Hillsborough, Rivelin and Wadsley. I remember the horse trough; there were lots of them (one was where the Malin Bridge tram stop is now).
...what do you know about Racker Way. Its only just below Walkley Bank Rd. and goes to more or less the same place, so why was it there, or is it older than the road. Opposite watercress cottage the steep wood is the Donkey Wood where donkeys were tethered, apparently. I'm not sure when. Is that something to do with Racker Way.
Racker Way doesn't feature in the 1925 directory so it must have been built-up after this date. The earlier maps I have don't seem to show so much as a track there, but the name supposedly comes from the fact that the "rackers" used this route to carry goods produced in the Rivelin mills via Lower Walkley to market in Sheffield and beyond. They used donkeys, mules etc. which had a "rack" fixed to either side of their backs, to which the packages of knives etc. would be secured. At least, this is what I've heard, and it might explain the name Donkey Woods.
...Just down [up?] the river from the paddling pool. If you walk through the thicket at the bottom of Roscoe wood, there are the concrete remains of an outdoor swimming pool, which ceased sometime before the war. It was always a dark and dismal place to play as kids.
I do have photos of this: Rivelin pool (http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u219/twigmore/RivelinPool.jpg) The pool closed when the wooden changing rooms burned down in the 1930s. There was a footbridge over the river that survived until a few years ago but it was demolished when it became unsafe.
...I've just remembered up to his death in 1956 he used to wear his wifes false teeth to eat meat, He could manage everything else with his gums. The joke was she died in 1936.
My dad only ever wore his (own) false teeth for weddings and funerals... :P

So you said; I was just remarking on how unusual it was for anyone to go to Russia in the 1960s (even residents of the Socialist Republic of South Yorkshire ;)). It got easier and cheaper in the 1970s. In 1984 I came out of a Moscow hotel and was surprised to see a Carnell's coach in the car park. Lorry drivers are the salt of the earth, as I learned in my hitch-hiking days.

Two branches of my ancestry lived on the top side of South Road - great-grandparents on Duncombe Street and a great-uncle on Matlock Road. They were very religious, as it seems many were in Walkley in days of old - or maybe it was just the Robinsons...

There was an off-licence on Commonside that used to sell malt whisky on draught - does anyone know if they still do?


That would be old Mr Robinson and his son young Peter Robinson, who if he's still with us will be touching 80 I would think.

There were Robinsons on Bole Hill Rd. The two lads were David and John.
John sang in the cathederal choir. Are they related to you.

I don't recognise any of the names, Tooeg, and most of my Robinson forebears in Walkley go back a bit further than this. Great-grandad Harry Robinson (1869-1937) lived on Duncombe Street and his eldest son William (1889-1961) on Matlock Road. Harry's daughter Doris never married and remained at 135 Duncombe Street until she died in 1974. My dad's brother Sydney returned to his roots (from Woodland View) when he bought 84 Cundy Street in the late 1950s.
They were all a bit eccentric. Maybe it's a family trait....:(

Tiger 110 I think

My great Grandma was Mary Ambler who lived at Crooks and her daughter Ellen Ambler (my grandma) lived at 135 Walkley Street - where my mother was born. I remember Eric ambler - one of a number of Great Uncle's I had. I spent many happy hours at Walkley and Rivelin. My grandmother lived opposite the cooperative shop.

Racker Way doesn't feature in the 1925 directory so it must have been built-up after this date. The earlier maps I have don't seem to show so much as a track there, but the name supposedly comes from the fact that the "rackers" used this route to carry goods produced in the Rivelin mills via Lower Walkley to market in Sheffield and beyond. They used donkeys, mules etc. which had a "rack" fixed to either side of their backs, to which the packages of knives etc. would be secured.

According to the OED a 'racker' is horse that moves with a 'racking' gait - that is, between an amble and a trot. Someone once told me it was also the name for a lead pack pony, but that isn't in the dictionary.

Martin Olive told us in a class I used to go to, that the current Racker Way was not the original and that the Council had unaccountably taken it from its 'rightful' location (the continuation of Walkley Street down towards Hollins Bridge).

Here is a picture of the 'right' Racker way, dated 1920: Picture Sheffield image (http://www.picturesheffield.com/jpgl/s18980.jpg)

There is another image looking back from further down the hill.

Hugh

Anybody any memories i used to live on freedom road my family still live there and have done since late 70's

Discuss Please!!!!
I used to live on Grammer Street (not there anymore). I went to Walkey Junior School in the late Sixties. I was told that they pulled most of it down for slum clearance purposes!

Next time I'm in the area I want to look in Walkley cemetery. Apparently some of my grandads brothers are there, died in action or as a result of wounding in the 1st war.
Someone did an article in the star last poppy day.
One brother the oldest I think, was Horatio.
In the early 50s my older brother came home having learned about ratios at school, to which my grandad said "I had a brother called ratio". Its gone down in family folk lore, as these things do.


The article was probably about our Remembrance Day Tour, when we visit each of the war graves in the cemetery. There are 44 men buried in 43 war graves. The one grave with two casualties is that of your great uncles Horatio and James (a third brother, William, was KIA abroad but is commemorated on the gravestone).

If you would like to PM me an email address I will send you a plan and the text of the inscription. I also have a photo of James from a local newspaper (published when he was wounded).

Was your Grandad Edward? If so his starting pension was 11/- a week according to his service record at Ancestry.co.uk.

Hugh
(Friends of Walkley Cemetery)

According to the OED a 'racker' is horse that moves with a 'racking' gait - that is, between an amble and a trot. Someone once told me it was also the name for a lead pack pony, but that isn't in the dictionary.

Martin Olive told us in a class I used to go to, that the current Racker Way was not the original and that the Council had unaccountably taken it from its 'rightful' location (the continuation of Walkley Street down towards Hollins Bridge).

I have heard the same explanation as 'Hillsbro' for the origin of the word "racker" - this apparently being an old name for a packhorse driver, though I've never found it in a dictionary. I am sure that Martin Olive is correct about the correct location; no sort of path or track seems to be marked on old maps in the location of the "modern" Racker Way.

I've just consulted my 1913 Empire Universities Dictionary, and it defines "Racking-Pace" as "the pace of a horse somewhat quicker and shorter paced than an amble".

Can you tell me where Walkley cemetery is? I looked it up and it says St Mary's Walkley and on googlemap it takes me to Loxley Rd. :huh:
I'm confused.com:hihi::hihi::hihi:

Whats Freedom Road like. I've seen a property for rent on there but i'm not up on that area. I'm 28 and my boyfriends 26 both need good connections to the town and the motorway network. Any advice would be good as i'm from Hackenthorpe so the other side of Sheffield really

Can you tell me where Walkley cemetery is? I looked it up and it says St Mary's Walkley and on googlemap it takes me to Loxley Rd. :huh:
I'm confused.com:hihi::hihi::hihi:

I don't know how it takes you to Loxley Road :huh::hihi:

Walkley Cemetery *is* the burial ground for St Mary's Parish, but it is some distance from the parish church. It is above the Catholic Cemetery in the Rivelin Valley with its main (and only official) entrance on Nichols Road (an unadopted road) off Waller Road. It doesn't go up quite as far as Bole Hill Road.

Hugh

The article was probably about our Remembrance Day Tour, when we visit each of the war graves in the cemetery. There are 44 men buried in 43 war graves. The one grave with two casualties is that of your great uncles Horatio and James (a third brother, William, was KIA abroad but is commemorated on the gravestone).

If you would like to PM me an email address I will send you a plan and the text of the inscription. I also have a photo of James from a local newspaper (published when he was wounded).

Was your Grandad Edward? If so his starting pension was 11/- a week according to his service record at Ancestry.co.uk.

Hugh
(Friends of Walkley Cemetery)

Spot on My grandad was Edward. He died in march 1956 aged 67. I didn't realise he was so prosperous 11/- a week wow.

According to the OED a 'racker' is horse that moves with a 'racking' gait - that is, between an amble and a trot. Someone once told me it was also the name for a lead pack pony, but that isn't in the dictionary.

Martin Olive told us in a class I used to go to, that the current Racker Way was not the original and that the Council had unaccountably taken it from its 'rightful' location (the continuation of Walkley Street down towards Hollins Bridge).

Here is a picture of the 'right' Racker way, dated 1920: Picture Sheffield image (http://www.picturesheffield.com/jpgl/s18980.jpg)

There is another image looking back from further down the hill.

Hugh

The picture is the Bottom of Rivelin Street. The field on the right is Milners Farm. The field on the left became allotments, by the 1950s, so it may have been part of the war effort.
I've just checked on google earth. What a difference. There are houses on the allotments and Milners field. Robertson Rd which was a little dead end road off Linaker Rd is now extended all the way accross the bottom of Rivelin St.
The narrow part of the lane on the picture, if that was the original Racker Way, is now the Gennel betwee 66 and 68 Robertson Rd.
If you go on Google earth Rivelin St.
Click on the photo 59 rivelin St. The old Victorian House with the green Front door and glass pannels was Milners Farm. Spin round and look down the road, that's the modern view of the picture you posted Hugh. The gas lamp on your picture was still there in the fifties/sixties I think.

Going on from my last post, back on Google Earth, The continuation of the old Rivelin St is Rivelin Rd.
On the land between Rivelin Rd and Walkley bank Rd was some sort of kids playground back in the 20s or 30s, so I was told.
Families would go there for the day at weekends. Part of their annual holiday, a big treat at the time.
Similarly there was one on the right hand side as you travelled out past Rivelin dams. Opposite the lane on the left for Wyming Brook.
As I think back, the gas lamp on your picture in the previous post, isn't what I remember, I think there was an old fashioned one with a square top, that was more like a road sign, close to the point where the road narrows on the left hand side.
I could of course just be imagining it.
I think there was also a similar gas lamp on South Road, where the road used to narrow for the Ebenezer Chapel.
I think it was a square box with white glass and a red X in it.

The houses in the background on the right are still there on Low Road at Stannington.

Was your Grandad Edward? If so his starting pension was 11/- a week according to his service record at Ancestry.co.uk.

Hugh
(Friends of Walkley Cemetery)

Am I correct in thinking it was a gas invalidity pension,
He used to have big kaolin poltices (sp.) on his chest to help him breath.

In the sixties there was an article in one of the national papers, one of my great uncles' widow, had seen her husband marching with his regiment, on old 1st war film footage, taken somewhere in France. This was either William or Horatio.

I don't know how it takes you to Loxley Road :huh::hihi:

Walkley Cemetery *is* the burial ground for St Mary's Parish, but it is some distance from the parish church. It is above the Catholic Cemetery in the Rivelin Valley with its main (and only official) entrance on Nichols Road (an unadopted road) off Waller Road. It doesn't go up quite as far as Bole Hill Road.

Hugh

Thanks for that info.:)
I typed 'Walkley cemetery' into the search on googlemap and my little man ended up on Loxley Rd...I walked him up and down, up and down and thought 'Summat ain't rite 'ere':confused:

The picture is the Bottom of Rivelin Street. The field on the right is Milners Farm. The field on the left became allotments...

Here is the view the other way, 1920, possibly taken the same day...
Picture Sheffield image (http://www.picturesheffield.com/jpgh/s18981.jpg)

Am I correct in thinking it was a gas invalidity pension,
He used to have big kaolin poltices (sp.) on his chest to help him breath.

The record states 'bronchitis caused by war service'. This is from the general service record. I cannot find him in the pension records which would have had more detail. The 11/- was "to be reviewed in 52 weeks" - after his discharge in Sep 1917.

Hugh

I have a old photo of my late Grandad William(Bill) Cawton marching with some of is brothers passed The Rose House pub at the top of Carr Road. The photo looks like it was taken in the late 40's going on the dress of the men. He was born on Hoole Street 1902,lost his first wife & 3 year old child in The Sheffield Blits on St Marys Road. He remarried my Nan,who is still about at 93. On the photo The Rose House is clealy seen,plus the shops signs going down South Road & the corners of top of Carr Road. I had a copy done for the new landlord of the Rose sure he will show it if anyone is intrested.

Here is the view the other way, 1920, possibly taken the same day...
Picture Sheffield image (http://www.picturesheffield.com/jpgh/s18981.jpg)
Hugh

That's a good picture, Bole Hill School is at the back just to the left of centre.

Whats Freedom Road like. I've seen a property for rent on there but i'm not up on that area. I'm 28 and my boyfriends 26 both need good connections to the town and the motorway network. Any advice would be good as i'm from Hackenthorpe so the other side of Sheffield really

Yeah freedom road is great you would love it

What were the original fireplaces downstairs like in the little old terraced houses of Walkley (and elsewhere)?

I've looked round loads of them when I've been looking to move house and I never saw anything that looked like it dated from the period. I asked my coalman once when he came round and he said they were just simple iron things. But I can't picture it really. Presumably they were quite basic in these houses and were ripped out in the 1950s/60s etc, rather than the grander ones in the bigger houses that often still remain.

I replaced mine put a lovely wood and iron fireplace in (from Replicas), but I was just guessing about what it should look like.

[QUOTE=Bilge;5099546]What were the original fireplaces downstairs like in the little old terraced houses of Walkley (and elsewhere)?

I've looked round loads of them when I've been looking to move house and I never saw anything that looked like it dated from the period. I asked my coalman once when he came round and he said they were just simple iron things. But I can't picture it really. Presumably they were quite basic in these houses and were ripped out in the 1950s/60s etc, rather than the grander ones in the bigger houses that often still remain.


Our house on Bole Hill road, built at the turn of the century, had a Yorkshire range, which was still in use until we got a gas cooker in the early 1950s I think. Even after that we would boil the odd kettle on it and cook in the oven sometimes.
We finally dispenced with it in the early 60s but all we did was block it off and stick a gas fire in front of it.
All the other rooms had little cast iron fires with a cast iron mantlepiece and tiles at the back.
To light the yorkshire range, you would hold a piece of newspaper accross the front to make it draw. We kids would always manage Accidentally to set the paper on fire and watch it float up the chimney, once in a while we would set the chimney on fire.

What were the original fireplaces downstairs like in the little old terraced houses of Walkley (and elsewhere)?

I've looked round loads of them when I've been looking to move house and I never saw anything that looked like it dated from the period. I asked my coalman once when he came round and he said they were just simple iron things. But I can't picture it really. Presumably they were quite basic in these houses and were ripped out in the 1950s/60s etc, rather than the grander ones in the bigger houses that often still remain.

I replaced mine put a lovely wood and iron fireplace in (from Replicas), but I was just guessing about what it should look like.In most houses they had the old Yorkshire range with an oven to one side and a water tank at the other,
You could divert heat under the oven by using a damper which opened the flue going through/under the oven and back into the main chimney.

Thanks. Assuming the ranges were in the dining room/kitchen, what was the fireplace in the front room/lounge/parlour usually like?

We lived in Parsonage Street From 68 to 86 and when we moved in it had all the old fire places in and a yorkshire range in the kitchen/living room there was no hot water tank behind it and my wife used to use the coal oven more than the gas cooker especialy for baking and stews we had them all taken out and the chimeny breasts removed when we modenised it and had a bathroom put in we spent more money on the improvments than what the house cost. The fire places in the two bedrooms were small iron which required black leading the same as the range the one in the room was a tiled suround with a larger grate than those in the bedrooms and all were in working order up to them comming out.The toilet was up the garden as well when we first moved in.

Thanks. Assuming the ranges were in the dining room/kitchen, what was the fireplace in the front room/lounge/parlour usually like?

Ours was made of cast iron and looked like this (http://www.fireplacesareus.co.uk/images/fireplaces/rochdale_cast_iron_fireplace.jpg) except that it had decorative tiles at either side. You can still buy them - they tend to be made in China nowadays. When large numbers of houses in Sheffield were being demolished, some people had a profitable sideline buying them up (or even just rescuing them from skips etc.) and then restoring them for resale.

[QUOTE=Bilge;5099546]What were the original fireplaces downstairs like in the little old terraced houses of Walkley (and elsewhere)?

As Tooeg and Bassman describes, a plain little Yorkshire range with the oven at the left, nothing fancy, can't remember any water connection to ours though (off Grammar St.) We removed it around 1960 for a cream tiled "modern" surround with little insets at either side of the fire opening for ornaments. I also remember the remnants of small bore gas piping in parts of the house from the days when there was just gas lighting.
When we moved into an estate house at Foxhill/Wadsley Bridge in 1971, we learned that the council had recently removed the "ranges" from all the kitchens in these houses.

Anybody any memories i used to live on freedom road my family still live there and have done since late 70's

Discuss Please!!!!
I used to live on Grammer Street until mid seventies.

This thread brings back some memories. I lived on South Road Walkley from 1961 to 1967. My mother and her dad had a fishing tackle/fancy goods shop next to a butchers and a couple of doors away from the Rose pub. We moved there from Infirmary Road. My Grandad lived on Stannington Road opposite the Anvil pub and we used to walk from our house to the Anvil pub every Sunday night.

That would be old Mr Robinson and his son young Peter Robinson, who if he's still with us will be touching 80 I would think.

There were Robinsons on Bole Hill Rd. The two lads were David and John.
John sang in the cathederal choir. Are they related to you.

Peter Robinson was a school teacher and Methodist minister and has now passed away two years ago.

My memories of Walkley:
Bob Clarkes open fronted fish shop with the sloping marble slab
Gierschicks Bakery (elephants foot cream buns as a treat on a Saturday)
Halls Pork Butchers (Chitlings and bag and sheep brains)
Gower and Burgins and Jacksons (the two "supermarkets)
Mcanallys Fish and chips at the library end of South Rd and Bottomleys Fish and chips at the Howard Hill end.
Boots the Chemist (my grandfather was the pharmacist (later was Roys Bistro, then Pepes now Vitos).
Laundrette at the bottom of Greenhow Street (now opticians)
Walkley Library ( I used to help out in the childrens section from age 10 stamping out books and putting returns away).
Mr Binks the Barbers
Hartleys Herbalist.
Newsagent at the library end of South Rd where I had my first paid job with a paper round.
The fruit and veg cart at the top of Carr Road right outside the side entrance to the Rose House. I used to sit in my Grandmother bay window opposite and watch.
St Josephs School. Very happy memories of my time there.
Walkley Medical Centre. My aunt was receptionist there for years.
My grandmother had a dress/drapers shop before I was born on the block where Premier now stands. She sold hats, evening gowns, fur stoles, day dresses etc.
The Heavygate Inn where I worked behind the bar. Used to be packed to the rafters every week-end and busy in the week. Now sadly closed.
The Bolehills. Spent hours and hours playing and wandering over the Bolehills. Out from dawn until dusk and then home for tea. Had a Secret Society with our den on the Bolehills.
Apologies for rambling on but this thread triggered many happy memories.

Thanks for the memory jogging Sunbeam, I can remember most of those mentioned, what years are you referring to?

Do you remember Slacks Bakers, Sauls grocers, Tandys butchers, clarks of retford, was there a coliseum chippy as well?

There was a Co-op on Heavygate Rd

Nostalgia, it's a thing of the past

Hi Sunbeam!
I too went to St Josephs (between 1962 and 65)...no happy memories for me though! ...loathed every minute of it lol.
Dens on the Bolehills, and playing on those massive rocks...one was a ship!
You have really jogged my memory of all the shops. My mum used to clean Macnellis chippie

I've just remembered the chinese laundry, next to the Library, then Kitchens newsagents who raced greyhounds at Owlerton.
Another newsagents accross the road, I'm struggling to remember their name, I think they lived on Providence Rd opposite Lark St

My father was born at 120 Walkley Street in 1915 - the youngest son of 10 children. All his brothers and sisters were born there too. He married my Mom (who was "accidentally" born in Crookes) in 1942 at St. Mary's Church. He was in the Yorks and Lancs Regiment by then (WW2 for you young 'uns!). My grandparents lived at 18 Parsonage Crescent and one of my Aunts lived next door at #20 from the day she married until the day she died (75 years in the same house!). One of my Dad's cousins was Redfern Froggatt who played for Sheffield Wednesday - as did Jack Froggatt. If you go to the Owls Football Stadium and look at all their old photos, you will see the Froggatts there. I used to love to visit Walkley and all my relatives (there were so many) and take walks on Bole Hills with my cousins. We especially loved to visit at Easter and Whitsuntide because we would get gifts and money to buy ice cream. One of my cousins - Irwin Johnson - had a butcher shop and I think it was on South Road. When my Dad came home from the war (Burma - he was Chindit) the council gave us a house in Ecclesfield in 1948. My Dad just passed away last year after living in that same house for 60 years.

hello ttourtell

I was interested in your reference to Redfern Froggatt.

This is the inscription from a grave in Walkley Cemetery:

In memory of / J VICKERS / died May 28th 1903 / aged 56 years /
Also ELLEN FROGGATT / daughter of above / died May 7th 1920 / aged 44 years / Loving memories /
Also FRANK FROGGATT / beloved son of above ELLEN / died March 6th 1944 / aged 45 years / Ever in our thoughts /
Also REDFERN beloved husband of / ELLEN FROGGATT / died April 8th 1951 aged 78 years

Frank, was Redfern's father (another Wednesday hero). The Redfern and Ellen buried here are Frank's parents, and J (Jonathan) Vickers was Ellen's father. Which makes Jonathan Vickers the great grandfather of Redfern the footballer.

He is also, if I have got my facts right, your great grandfather :)

Hugh Waterhouse
(Friends of Walkley Cemetery)

The last two posts are of particular interest to this old Wednesdayite who has fond memories of his hero Redfern Froggatt (along with Albert Quixall, Derek Dooley, Albert Broadbent et al.) Here is a scan from the 1901 census return showing J. Vickers' household (http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u219/twigmore/Vickers.jpg) at 193 Cundy Street:

Ellen Vickers had married this Redfern Froggatt in 1897. In the 1891 census Jonathan Vickers was already a widower, and was a "lodger" at a house on Devonshire Street.

As anyone any links or pic's of walkley?

I also have very fond memories of spending time in the Walkley Working Mans Club where my nan thelma used to run the ladies section and also my grandad bernard was very thought of there with lots of friends.

My father was born at 120 Walkley Street in 1915 - the youngest son of 10 children. All his brothers and sisters were born there too. He married my Mom (who was "accidentally" born in Crookes) in 1942 at St. Mary's Church. He was in the Yorks and Lancs Regiment by then (WW2 for you young 'uns!). My grandparents lived at 18 Parsonage Crescent and one of my Aunts lived next door at #20 from the day she married until the day she died (75 years in the same house!). One of my Dad's cousins was Redfern Froggatt who played for Sheffield Wednesday - as did Jack Froggatt. If you go to the Owls Football Stadium and look at all their old photos, you will see the Froggatts there. I used to love to visit Walkley and all my relatives (there were so many) and take walks on Bole Hills with my cousins. We especially loved to visit at Easter and Whitsuntide because we would get gifts and money to buy ice cream. One of my cousins - Irwin Johnson - had a butcher shop and I think it was on South Road. When my Dad came home from the war (Burma - he was Chindit) the council gave us a house in Ecclesfield in 1948. My Dad just passed away last year after living in that same house for 60 years.

I see you come from Georgie,USA,where abouts in Georgia ?. I have relatives in Roswell, Georgia.

Hi I lived in Duncombe Street from my birth in 1959 until 1964 when we moved to Hillsborough so I obviously don't have clear memories of the area. I do remember a big church a the junction of South Road and Duncombe Street which was knocked down some years ago, anybody remember the name. There was Frank Stringer's fish and chip shop just across the road where my mum worked part time.

I remember starting school at St. Mary's and having to leave after a few months as we moved, the only time I have been to church regular in my life !!!. Also remember the sasperella shop already mentioned.

We lived at 41 walkley st in the late 60s- early 70s, does anyone remember amblers butcher further down the road? [we still owe him a few quid for all the meat we had on tick] :)

Thats my grandad, how much you owe him? There will obviously be interest! hahaha!

we lived in cundy street below the school until the houses were pulled down in the early 80's

My great grandmother Mary Ann Settle lived at 33 Freedom Road from the early 1900's with husband Tom, moving to No 41 later on. Her neice Nellie Settle then took over the house at No 41 from approx 1940. She lived there until she died in 1974 but her daughter Joan Torry lived there until 1977 with her husband George. What happened to Nos. 21 to 43 Freedom Road? They were demolished for some reason in the 80's? Does anyone know anything about them?

My great grandmother Mary Ann Settle lived at 33 Freedom Road from the early 1900's with husband Tom, moving to No 41 later on. Her neice Nellie Settle then took over the house at No 41 from approx 1940. She lived there until she died in 1974 but her daughter Joan Torry lived there until 1977 with her husband George. What happened to Nos. 21 to 43 Freedom Road? They were demolished for some reason in the 80's? Does anyone know anything about them?
At one point the plan was to demolish everything below South Road, the 'Walkley Action Group' 'WAG' was set up to fight it with the result that most of the houses were left standing.
My parents home was in the yard in Cundy St numbers 126-134 the houses in the yard below were demolished although I can't understand why.

At one point the plan was to demolish everything below South Road, the 'Walkley Action Group' 'WAG' was set up to fight it with the result that most of the houses were left standing.
My parents home was in the yard in Cundy St numbers 126-134 the houses in the yard below were demolished although I can't understand why.

Yes, I remember the WAG as well - a lot of strong feelings to protect homes at that time. Saved our house in Industry Street and it is still there today.

Yes, I remember the WAG as well - a lot of strong feelings to protect homes at that time. Saved our house in Industry Street and it is still there today.
My friend Ian Bailey lived at 147 Industry St, just above Walkley ST.

My friend Ian Bailey lived at 147 Industry St, just above Walkley ST.

We were below Walkley Street. I don't recall Ian.

We were below Walkley Street. I don't recall Ian.
It was a long time ago we grew up there in the 40s-60s.

We were below Walkley Street. I don't recall Ian.

My aunt and uncle lived in Industry St. in a back to back house then they moved to Springhouse Rd. Maureen and Joe Ross.

my friends ken and monika wilkinson lived at 145 walkley st,unfurtunatly ken got killed at work with a skip lorry he was driving in 1969.

neville Hawke had a greengrocers shop on south rd just about where rare and racy books were.

It would be intersting/helpful if people would apply dates to the times they're posting about.
My maternal Grandparents were blitzed to 134 Cundy St, opposite and just below the 'Royal Hotel'.
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When my Grandparents had both died my own parents were allowed to take on the tennency in 1950.

I left Walkley in 1966 having joined the army (York & Lancaster Regiment) with several ex Burgoyne Rd School pupils already serving.

My father died in 1990 and my mother moved to Dronfield in 1992.

neville Hawke had a greengrocers shop on south rd just about where rare and racy books were.Long after my time I'm afraid.

It would be intersting/helpful if people would apply dates to the times they're posting about.
My maternal Grandparents were blitzed to 134 Cundy St, opposite and just below the 'Royal Hotel'.
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When my Grandparents had both died my own parents were allowed to take on the tennency in 1950.

I left Walkley in 1966 having joined the army (York & Lancaster Regiment) with several ex Burgoyne Rd School pupils already serving.

My father died in 1990 and my mother moved to Dronfield in 1992.

My time there was mainly 60s and 70s but I don't recognise any of the other names mentioned.

I'm sure this is a long shot,but does anyone out there got any School class photos of old Walkley School. I remember in 1976/77 being taken to the girls playing yard having our class photo taken,by the Head Teacher. Who I can't remember his name looked about 80 plus,with the oldest camera ever. I remember my mum saying when we went to meet him, due to moving in too the area, "God is he still alive,he taught me at school,he looked old then." Any Old Walkley school class photos,sure it would stir memorys.

neville Hawke had a greengrocers shop on south rd just about where rare and racy books were.

No longer a shop, but an excellent catering business run by Mrs Hawke
Carol's Catering (http://www.carolscateringsheffield.co.uk/)

It's next to the former post office.

Hugh

I'm sure this is a long shot,but does anyone out there got any School class photos of old Walkley School. Any Old Walkley school class photos,sure it would stir memorys.

I've got a class photo but that was took around 1956. Smith was the headmaster then.

Edit-just realised that it was took in the junior school yard.

It would be intersting/helpful if people would apply dates to the times they're posting about.
My maternal Grandparents were blitzed to 134 Cundy St, opposite and just below the 'Royal Hotel'.
.
When my Grandparents had both died my own parents were allowed to take on the tennency in 1950.

I left Walkley in 1966 having joined the army (York & Lancaster Regiment) with several ex Burgoyne Rd School pupils already serving.

My father died in 1990 and my mother moved to Dronfield in 1992.

hi were your mum and dad called mr and mrs swift if so we lived next door for 16 years they were a lovely couple they use to give me and my brothers little gifts at christmas

My great grandmother Mary Ann Settle lived at 33 Freedom Road from the early 1900's with husband Tom, moving to No 41 later on. Her neice Nellie Settle then took over the house at No 41 from approx 1940. She lived there until she died in 1974 but her daughter Joan Torry lived there until 1977 with her husband George. What happened to Nos. 21 to 43 Freedom Road? They were demolished for some reason in the 80's? Does anyone know anything about them?

Is it possible you mean *Elizabeth* Ann?...

1861 Census Thomas & Hannah SETTLE Regent St.
1871 Census Thomas & Hannah SETTLE 33 Freedom Road
1881 Census Thomas & Hannah SETTLE 39 Freedom Road
1891 Census Thomas & Hannah SETTLE 41 Freedom Road
1891 Census Tom & Elizabeth A SETTLE King’s Norton (Thomas & Hannah's son)
1901 Census Tom & Elizabeth A SETTLE 41 Freedom Road
(Thomas, widower living with Tom & Elizabeth)

Tom SETTLE engraver, 41 Freedom Rd is listed in a 1919/20 Directory.

Members of this family are buried in grave A288 in Walkley Cemetery.

Hugh

1925
41 Freedom Road
Albert George Settle, labourer.

hi were your mum and dad called mr and mrs swift if so we lived next door for 16 years they were a lovely couple they use to give me and my brothers little gifts at christmasYes they were my parents, Dad died in Cundy St around 1990, we moved Mum to be near us in Dronfield around 1992 where she died a few years later.
Thank you for getting in touch.

Yes they were my parents, Dad died in Cundy St around 1990, we moved Mum to be near us in Dronfield around 1992 where she died a few years later.
Thank you for getting in touch.

hi sorry to hear that.your dad took me and my brothers to hospital on more than one occasion things like my tongue hanging off,my brother breaking his arm and my youngest brother scoulding him self like i said a really lovely couple

My Aunty lived at 19 Providence rd, Grandparents lived accross the street further up, Allsop was my Uncle, Coyles were my Grandparents , they lived next to a lady everyone called Little Lilly, she always sat with her front door open watching people come and go, that must have been around the late 40s & 50s, I loved to go shopping on South Road, lovely little butchers shops, my Aunty would walk from one butchers to another trying to save a penny :hihi:

My Grandad would sit for hours on the wall accross from the Library on South road chatting to his old buddies, he always wore the same old flat cap and his black waistcoat was shiney with wear, never took it off long enough to be washed, the waistcoat was so hard it think it could stand up on it's own :hihi:

It's funny as back then no one would think twice about leaving a baby in a pram outside the shops, the prams were too big to take into those small shops so they were all lined up outside.

Hello Poppins, was your Grandfather originally from Hillsborough,Rudyard Road?there were quite a few Coyles lived down there.

Hello Poppins, was your Grandfather originally from Hillsborough,Rudyard Road?there were quite a few Coyles lived down there.

That I don't know Nellie.

[QUOTE=poppins;6660356]My Grandad would sit for hours on the wall accross from the Library on South road chatting to his old buddies, he always wore the same old flat cap and his black waistcoat was shiney with wear, never took it off long enough to be washed, the waistcoat was so hard it think it could stand up on it's own :hihi:

My grandad used to sit on that wall. It was the old walkley billiard hall, I think it was probably bombed during the war. It was just a kids playground when we were young.
My grandad wore the fashion of the day. Old army boots, brown corderoy trousers upto his chest, shirt without a collar, waistcoat, dark jacket and flat cap. All dirty and greasey.

I used to date a redhead who went to Bolehill school and lived on Cromwell Street

My Grandad would sit for hours on the wall accross from the Library on South road chatting to his old buddies, he always wore the same old flat cap and his black waistcoat was shiney with wear, never took it off long enough to be washed, the waistcoat was so hard it think it could stand up on it's own :hihi:

My grandad used to sit on that wall. It was the old walkley billiard hall, I think it was probably bombed during the war. It was just a kids playground when we were young.
My grandad wore the fashion of the day. Old army boots, brown corderoy trousers upto his chest, shirt without a collar, waistcoat, dark jacket and flat cap. All dirty and greasey.

I am trying to visualise where this wall and this billiard hall were. Were they on South Road or the other side of Walkley Road?

Hugh (only in Walkley since 1982)

My Aunty lived at 19 Providence rd, Grandparents lived accross the street further up, Allsop was my Uncle, Coyles were my Grandparents , they lived next to a lady everyone called Little Lilly, she always sat with her front door open watching people come and go, that must have been around the late 40s & 50s, I loved to go shopping on South Road, lovely little butchers shops, my Aunty would walk from one butchers to another trying to save a penny :hihi:

Would these people include John Thomas and Ellen COYLE who lived at 5 court 6 house Providence Road in 1907?

What is interesting to me, as a researcher into Walkley Cemetery, is that this couple are among a handful of Catholics buried in the Church of England cemetery, although St Michael's Catholic Cemetery is just over the wall.

Hugh
(Friends of Walkley Cemetery)

I am trying to visualise where this wall and this billiard hall were. Were they on South Road or the other side of Walkley Road?

Hugh (only in Walkley since 1982)

Walkley Rd. on the right as you go up directly above Parsonage Cresent. There are now houses or flats on the land.
I've just checked on Google earth. The wall's still there, (Sad aren't I).

I am trying to visualise where this wall and this billiard hall were. Were they on South Road or the other side of Walkley Road?

Hugh (only in Walkley since 1982)

I don't recall a billiard hall at all, just the Library on the opposite corner from the "Chat Wall " :)

Would these people include John Thomas and Ellen COYLE who lived at 5 court 6 house Providence Road in 1907?

What is interesting to me, as a researcher into Walkley Cemetery, is that this couple are among a handful of Catholics buried in the Church of England cemetery, although St Michael's Catholic Cemetery is just over the wall.

Hugh
(Friends of Walkley Cemetery)

Never heard of an Ellen Coyle, my Grandadparents were Jack & Elisa Coyle .

I don't recall a billiard hall at all, just the Library on the opposite corner from the "Chat Wall " :)

The billiard hall was still there in 1939, I think it was bombed in the war. As kids we called it the billiards, but I never really knew why until later.

The billiard hall was still there in 1939, I think it was bombed in the war. As kids we called it the billiards, but I never really knew why until later.

I was born 1941, was it a real Billiards hall ?

Is it possible you mean *Elizabeth* Ann?...

1861 Census Thomas & Hannah SETTLE Regent St.
1871 Census Thomas & Hannah SETTLE 33 Freedom Road
1881 Census Thomas & Hannah SETTLE 39 Freedom Road
1891 Census Thomas & Hannah SETTLE 41 Freedom Road
1891 Census Tom & Elizabeth A SETTLE King’s Norton (Thomas & Hannah's son)
1901 Census Tom & Elizabeth A SETTLE 41 Freedom Road
(Thomas, widower living with Tom & Elizabeth)

Tom SETTLE engraver, 41 Freedom Rd is listed in a 1919/20 Directory.

Members of this family are buried in grave A288 in Walkley Cemetery.

Hugh
Thanks so much. I will have a look at the cemetary.

1925
41 Freedom Road
Albert George Settle, labourer.
Thanks - this is Nellie's husband. He was originally a car salesman in Essex!!

I was born 1941, was it a real Billiards hall ?

1939 Kellys......Walkley Billiard hall .. mrs Eliz. Thompson proprietress

My friend Ian Bailey lived at 147 Industry St, just above Walkley ST.

my wife lived in Industry Street 45 to 66 then we lived in Parsonage Street 68 to 86. Bassman was your dad a big friend of our next door neighbour Ron Campbell in Parsonage Street

I don't know how it takes you to Loxley Road :huh::hihi:

Walkley Cemetery *is* the burial ground for St Mary's Parish, but it is some distance from the parish church. It is above the Catholic Cemetery in the Rivelin Valley with its main (and only official) entrance on Nichols Road (an unadopted road) off Waller Road. It doesn't go up quite as far as Bole Hill Road.

Hugh
Is there a plan of the cemetary please?

my wife lived in Industry Street 45 to 66 then we lived in Parsonage Street 68 to 86. Bassman was your dad a big friend of our next door neighbour Ron Campbell in Parsonage StreetYes he was they were very good friends, My Mum and Dad used to go to the Walkley WMC with him.
Thanks for the memory.

hi sorry to hear that.your dad took me and my brothers to hospital on more than one occasion things like my tongue hanging off,my brother breaking his arm and my youngest brother scoulding him self like i said a really lovely coupleThanks for that my Dad was a great guy, my mum developed demnetia as she got older over in Dronfield and had to go into care.

Thanks for that my Dad was a great guy, my mum developed demnetia as she got older over in Dronfield and had to go into care.

Hi Bassman I got to know your dad as we lived next door to Ron for 18 years and as you say he was a very nice person as we used the club when I was home and would always have word with your dad and Ron.

This photograph was reputedly taken at the back of the Freedom Hotel or possibly the Palm Inn, I suspect the former as there are family connections with this pub in the early 1900s. Anyone any ideas?

http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv12/carosio/FreedomHotel.jpg

Is there a plan of the cemetary please?

If you pm me an email address I can send you some plans (I assume for the SETTLE grave A288). I have also found that Albert George is buried in grave F205 with 3 people called HULME. I don't think that grave has a gravestone.

Hugh

Anyone else have pictures of Walkley-any areas/roads etc-just find it all interesting.

Does anyone know if there are any books specifically about Walkley-its history etc.
Any information appreciated
Mumsy

Hi I was born at 101 Industry Street, Walkley (1942) then later my parents moved us all to 282 Heavygate Road behind THE LOLLYPOP SHOP , Moved from there at the age of 13 to live in Pitsmoor !
Then got married (1965) and moved to Woodhouse, Now living in Thrybergh ,Rotherham since 2006.

Colin still lives in Walkley and can be seen walking around as smart as ever.

Yes they were my parents, Dad died in Cundy St around 1990, we moved Mum to be near us in Dronfield around 1992 where she died a few years later.
Thank you for getting in touch.
Hi Bassman I have been trying to trace relatives. Did you know isabella swift husband Frank lived at 20 freedom road , I believe they are my grandparents

The bloke who died whilst cutting someones hair must have been old Mr Binks.
The Hairdresser who died whilst cutting hair choked on his false teeth, his shop was at the end of South road opposite the library.

Hi Bassman I have been trying to trace relatives. Did you know isabella swift husband Frank lived at 20 freedom road , I believe they are my grandparents
Sorry I'm afarid I didn't know her my family came from the Parkwood Springs.

Sorry I'm afarid I didn't know her my family came from the Parkwood Springs.

My wife (nee Jose Loy) knew Frank Swift, she used to live on Daniel Hill St. We left Sheffield 40 + years ago.

My great Grandma was Mary Ambler who lived at Crooks and her daughter Ellen Ambler (my grandma) lived at 135 Walkley Street - where my mother was born. I remember Eric ambler - one of a number of Great Uncle's I had. I spent many happy hours at Walkley and Rivelin. My grandmother lived opposite the cooperative shop.

Was that the co op, on the corner of Hoole ST ,I lived just round the corner at 158 Hoole st, My mate Niel Callery who lived on Burgoyne Road married an Ambler ,Niel was a bricklayer good kid.

This photograph was reputedly taken at the back of the Freedom Hotel or possibly the Palm Inn, I suspect the former as there are family connections with this pub in the early 1900s. Anyone any ideas?

http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv12/carosio/FreedomHotel.jpg
That definitely looks like the Palm Inn garden.:)

That definitely looks like the Palm Inn garden.:)

Thanks for that, Rivelin6. Last time I was in the Palm Tree was around 1968!

Wasn't there a tennis court wher the shops are now?

I recall in the 80's a well worn old tennis court opposite Greenhow Steet (over a little wall) next to the Rose House, could this be it ?

I lived on Bell-Hagg Road between 1978-1988 grew-up there right by the steps coming up from the Walkley Club, next to the post box built into the wall by the 3 large terraced houses opposite the corner shop on riverlin street jct with bell hagg.

There was a gents hairdressers opposite the library (Toms I believe) where the hairdresser choked on his false teeth.
Mr Binks cut my hair for me when I joined the army in 1966, I was the only recruit who didn't need a haircut at the start of basic training.

When I was a boy in the 1930's Mr Binks used to cut my hair, short all over, with a quif left at the front, to poke out from my cap. Dad told me that Mr Binks learned to cut hair while cutting hair on horses during WW1.

My wife (nee Jose Loy) knew Frank Swift, she used to live on Daniel Hill St. We left Sheffield 40 + years ago.

my mum and dad kept the walkley liberal working mens club on the corner of harworth st and daniel hill in 1945/46

Anybody any memories i used to live on freedom road my family still live there and have done since late 70's

Discuss Please!!!!

My family lived in Waller road from the end of WW1 and still live there.
As a boy in the 30's I attended Bole Hill primary school, Miss Brient ran the babies class, with Miss Marsden the next in line. Miss Brient informed me that she had taught my brother before me, (he was 19 years my senior).
Not the days of the contract teacher.
I remember the eleven plus class was run by a Miss Westeren. I passed that year and spent the next five years attending Nether Edge Grammer.
Does enyone know the Housley's. Windle's, or Ibbotson's, all lived in Waller road in the 30's - 50's?

Anybody any memories i used to live on freedom road my family still live there and have done since late 70's

Discuss Please!!!! i was born on freedom st , we used to live over stones shop and there was 25 stone steps leading to our back door. the boubeys lived next door and the helliewels lived at the oppersite side in the last house across from the burnerby st club.

i lived at 23 Cromwell street from 66 to86 remember the shop at the bottom of the road you could get just about everything from there

Does anyone remember Bernard Frith who was the Landlord of the Rose House on South Rd, One Saturday dinner some of the lady shoppers had called in the Rose for a swift half and while they were not looking Bernard popped some maggots into there meat bags,there was hell to play after they had all gone back to Duggie the butchers threatening to report him.

Another day it was raining cats and dogs every body was wet through when they got to the pub',all of a sudden the front door burst open and a man in full diving gear walked in bloody wet out there int it he said,every body fell about in histerics it was Bernerd he would do owt for a laugh.

Does anyone remember Bernard Frith who was the Landlord of the Rose House on South Rd, One Saturday dinner some of the lady shoppers had called in the Rose for a swift half and while they were not looking Bernard popped some maggots into there meat bags,there was hell to play after they had all gone back to Duggie the butchers threatening to report him.

Another day it was raining cats and dogs every body was wet through when they got to the pub',all of a sudden the front door burst open and a man in full diving gear walked in bloody wet out there int it he said,every body fell about in histerics it was Bernerd he would do owt for a laugh.

I remember Bernard when I used to go with the late father in law in the late 60s

I remember Bernard when I used to go with the late father in law in the late 60s

We must have met, Who was your Father in law.

i lived at 23 Cromwell street from 66 to86 remember the shop at the bottom of the road you could get just about everything from there

I used to know a family on Cromwell street, but they were above south road somewhere around No 100 +/-

I used to know a family on Cromwell street, but they were above south road somewhere around No 100 +/-the lady next door was called Mrs Howard she had a son who ran the plumbing yard at the top of Cromwell street

We must have met, Who was your Father in law.

Howard Howson was my father in law cuttsie

the lady next door was called Mrs Howard she had a son who ran the plumbing yard at the top of Cromwell street

You lowlanders had me confused by calling the middle of Cromwell Street the top.

The only thing at the top was the Heavygate. :)

Howard Howson was my father in law cuttsie

sorry I should have said Mrs Howorth she and her sister lived below us the top of cromwell street where the builder lived I thought he had a yard there but he must have operated out of his home address

My family lived in Waller road from the end of WW1 and still live there.
As a boy in the 30's I attended Bole Hill primary school, Miss Brient ran the babies class, with Miss Marsden the next in line. Miss Brient informed me that she had taught my brother before me, (he was 19 years my senior).
Not the days of the contract teacher.
I remember the eleven plus class was run by a Miss Westeren. I passed that year and spent the next five years attending Nether Edge Grammer.
Does enyone know the Housley's. Windle's, or Ibbotson's, all lived in Waller road in the 30's - 50's?

Hi Bill , do you know the rowen family that lived on waller road and also went to bole hill school ?

My family lived in Waller road from the end of WW1 and still live there.
As a boy in the 30's I attended Bole Hill primary school, Miss Brient ran the babies class, with Miss Marsden the next in line. Miss Brient informed me that she had taught my brother before me, (he was 19 years my senior).
Not the days of the contract teacher.
I remember the eleven plus class was run by a Miss Westeren. I passed that year and spent the next five years attending Nether Edge Grammer.
Does enyone know the Housley's. Windle's, or Ibbotson's, all lived in Waller road in the 30's - 50's?

My dad, Norman, must have been there in the 1930s. Any hope you remember him? I think his older brothers and younger sister went there as well - Albert, Eric, Ron, Mary.

Lists of shops on South Road at various points in time here:
http://mdfs.net/jgh/Docs/SouthRoad

I was born in palm st.( 62-72).
Lived next to baxters haulage yard.Had many good times.Sad times also.
Good friends with the benson family,also the farleys whose son pete passed away at too young an age.R.I.P. Pete.

I was born in palm st.( 62-72)..

Your mother would have had a 'C' section today, 10 years in labour wow.:hihi:

I spent many years with family up Walkley, around the late 40s on, there names were Coyle, my Aunty Lilly & Charlie lived at 19 Providence rd, my Grandparents lived accross the street further up, a woman every one called Little Lilly lived next door, she always sat with her front door open so she could see who was comming down the street.

My Grandfather was always found sat on the stone wall opposite the Library on South road to see who got off the tram.

Later some of them moved to Hatfield street, off South road, or was it Hadfield.

Can anybody remember a murder in Fir St just below Heavygate Road a poliice officer from Woodseats killed his partner/friend and took her body wrapped up in a carpet in his car to Newcastle, he was stopped for speeding and then sent on his way,he then dumped her body in the sea I believe ! I new her as Mrs beard , if I remeber right she had two children Raymond Beard and I think it was Susan Beard !
I reckon this was in the 1950's

sorry I should have said Mrs Howorth she and her sister lived below us the top of cromwell street where the builder lived I thought he had a yard there but he must have operated out of his home address

Trying to to sort this family out in my mind, including the Walkley Cemetery records...

Johh Henry/Harry and Ethel Lilian HOWARTH lived at 19 Cromwell St.
John Henry (bn c 1890) died in 1961
Ethel Lilian died in 1982
Ethel Lilian's maiden name was SWALLOW and her parents lived at that address 1917/1928 ish.

John Frederick (bn c 1886) & Alice HOWARTH lived at 84/86 Cromwell st.
John Frederick died at no. 86 in 1965
Alice (maiden name HURST) died at no. 84 in 1976

86 and 84 are the first two terrace houses below the builder's/joiner's yard on the corner of Howard Road and Cromwell Street.

I have gone back a couple of generations but I cannot show a relationship between John Frederick and John Henry HOWARTH.

Hugh waterhouse
(Friends of Walkley Cemetery)
(who lives in the top top half of Cromwell street :))

Trying to to sort this family out in my mind, including the Walkley Cemetery records...

Johh Henry/Harry and Ethel Lilian HOWARTH lived at 19 Cromwell St.
John Henry (bn c 1890) died in 1961
Ethel Lilian died in 1982
Ethel Lilian's maiden name was SWALLOW and her parents lived at that address 1917/1928 ish.

John Frederick (bn c 1886) & Alice HOWARTH lived at 84/86 Cromwell st.
John Frederick died at no. 86 in 1965
Alice (maiden name HURST) died at no. 84 in 1976

86 and 84 are the first two terrace houses below the builder's/joiner's yard on the corner of Howard Road and Cromwell Street.

I have gone back a couple of generations but I cannot show a relationship between John Frederick and John Henry HOWARTH.

Hugh waterhouse
(Friends of Walkley Cemetery)
(who lives in the top top half of Cromwell street :))

Hey !! I dated a girl from up on the top half :)

Hey !! I dated a girl from up on the top half :)

I lived at 23 Cromwell street form 1967 to78 Mrs Howarth was my next door neighbour she had family at the top half of Cromwell street named swallow who did plumbing repairs

Is there a plan of the cemetary please?

The cemetary was in point of fact provided in three parts. Protestent entered via Waller road, Catholic via Rivelin valley road, and little known Jewish entered via a gateway set in the wall, lower down Waller road. As a boy dad took me blackberry collecting in that part. He said that all the best berry's came from that area.
Both my mother and father are buried in the lower part of the protestant cemetary, and when I visited in 1990 it was difficult to locate the grave due to overgrowth. Mother was the last intered in 1972.

The cemetary was in point of fact provided in three parts. Protestent entered via Waller road, Catholic via Rivelin valley road, and little known Jewish entered via a gateway set in the wall, lower down Waller road. As a boy dad took me blackberry collecting in that part. He said that all the best berry's came from that area.
Both my mother and father are buried in the lower part of the protestant cemetary, and when I visited in 1990 it was difficult to locate the grave due to overgrowth. Mother was the last intered in 1972.

The Ibbotson family of Waller Road are sadly all gone now but their descendents are buiding up quite a little tribe now, how well did you know them? PS. I,m their eldest grandson, my name is Keith.

The Ibbotson family of Waller Road are sadly all gone now but their descendents are buiding up quite a little tribe now, how well did you know them? PS. I,m their eldest grandson, my name is Keith.

Morning Keith. I knew the family very well. As a boy Norman and I cycled most days. We joined the 64th Sheffield company Boys Brigade in order to play football. Norman's dad was a File forger and an excellent player of the Trombone. Apart from playing in the Sheffield Sympony, he played in several Brass bands as guest soloist. He obtained a place for Norman and I, with the Darnall Silver Band. I played E flat Horn, Norman Trombone. During the war he obtained a supply of petrol while most cars were laid up for the duration, due to part time work with Sheffield schools, which allowed us to motor to Manchester for a Brass band contest. I remained a close friend with Norman, until I joined the Navy in October 1947. As I remember Norman took up his dad.s trade producing rail files after leaving school at 14.

Regards Bill.

Hi Bill, some of your remarks are news to me, although I remember some of the things you mention, I only saw grandads car once, it was a black one ( don,t know what make ) in the garage near the entrance to the Jewish cemetary, there,s a house there now, I expect you,ve seen all that on google earth. I think they worked for a firm called Jessops( I have a few files with this name stamped on them, probably rejects or seconds ) grandad stayed there till he retired in 1965 but uncle Norman left earlier than that and went to Davey United, in the drawing office I think.
Did you ever go sledging in the Jewish cemetary, that was a fantastic ride, did you ever chase a ball all the way down the road only to lose it at the bottom in the bushes, did you ever play in the road in July or August and get plastered in tar, my mums remedy for this was to stand me in the tin bath on the hearth rug and scrub me down with an old dish cloth and a tube of Vim, by the way I only lived in Waller road till I was seven, we left there to live on Hackenthorpe in 1954. Keith.

Hi Keith. If Norman was your uncle, and you left Waller road at the age of seven, in 1954, I should have known your mother, but cannot place her.

i never had the ride you describe on your sledge. My main ride was from the top of Tinker lane, down across Bole Hill road, to the gates of the cematory.
During the war, water pipes were laid at the road side at the first curve up from Bole hill. So many sledgers failed to take the bend, that the pipes were covered in blood. I had one lucky escape as when I shot across Bole Hill road, I passed under a lorry, as it passed by.
Ball games down Waller road were a drag. As you say they went down as far as the Ginnel steps and were often seen no more.
Waller road surface in the 30's was composed of large pebles and was not surfaced until later. The milk cart; horse drawn, used to zig zag up the road independent of the milk man, while he holding a large churn, delivered the milk. There were no bottles, and the milk was left in a basin on a shelf in the small porch attached to the back door of our house.
I think your grandad's car was a black Jowet Javlin. At the time there were few cars about. A large Austin 12 at the big house Then a SS two door on Bole Hill road near the Pub, which was used as a Wedding car at weekends.

What happened to your uncle Norman?

Regards Bill.

Anyone remember the Coyles or the Allsops from Providence road ?

Hi Bill, my mums name was Vera, she was Normans sister, died of cancer in 1974, Norman also died of cancer in 1982.

My relatives lived on Bolehill Road..The Allens. my mother was born in the house that is now a museum..Thorpe-Cooke (Her mother I think was a domestic there). Does anyone remember a pub along the road called 'Polly's'

My relatives lived on Bolehill Road..The Allens. my mother was born in the house that is now a museum..Thorpe-Cooke (Her mother I think was a domestic there). Does anyone remember a pub along the road called 'Polly's'

My mother remembers a pub called "polly,s" and often talks about the good times they had there ,especially the night of the big wind when the roof blew of !

Do any of you guy's remember the name of the Prudential Insurance man who live on Bolehill Road back in the 50's/60's. He used to walk all over the place collecting the premiums. We were talking about him and trying to remember his name. I seem to remember he didn't talk like us so he probably was not a native Sheffielder.

Hi Bill, my mums name was Vera, she was Normans sister, died of cancer in 1974, Norman also died of cancer in 1982.

Hi Keith so sorry to hear your news. I live in hope that one day I will locate a contempory that I can converse with.
Regards Bill.

My mother remembers a pub called "polly,s" and often talks about the good times they had there ,especially the night of the big wind when the roof blew of !

Polly's was long gone when I came to Sheffield but I think I can work out how it got the name (officially it was the Rivelin View Hotel, and its address was 204 Bolehill Rd).

James (Jimmy) HARRISON moved there from The Royal on Walkley Street some time between 1905 and 1911. He died in 1917 and by 1920 the pub was being run by his married daughter Polly and her husband William Newbould. William died in 1940 and Polly, (I think?), re-married a Henry TURNER. I don't know if she was still there when the gale struck in 1956(?). I have been told that the damage was so bad that the pub was demolished.

The pub had a reputation, certainly when Jimmy was there as a place for the green-fingered. Jimmy was a reknowned grower of chrysanthemums. I have also been told that in later years there was a regular Sunday afternoon 'show' of choice flowers (and maybe vegetables) in the back room of the pub.

Hugh

The cemetary was in point of fact provided in three parts. Protestent entered via Waller road, Catholic via Rivelin valley road, and little known Jewish entered via a gateway set in the wall, lower down Waller road. As a boy dad took me blackberry collecting in that part. He said that all the best berry's came from that area.
Both my mother and father are buried in the lower part of the protestant cemetary, and when I visited in 1990 it was difficult to locate the grave due to overgrowth. Mother was the last intered in 1972.

There are three cemeteries that happen to be adjacent, rather than one in several parts.The Catholic cemetery is older than the other two. There are still plenty of blackberries, but for me, even better are some wild raspberries!

I belong to the Friends of Walkley Cemetery (the Church of England cemetery). We can never hope to completely clear the site of the undergrowth but we have done some work in the area where your parents are buried (if I have deduced correctly where that is). Is there a gravestone on the grave?

Hugh

There are three cemeteries that happen to be adjacent, rather than one in several parts.The Catholic cemetery is older than the other two. There are still plenty of blackberries, but for me, even better are some wild raspberries!

I belong to the Friends of Walkley Cemetery (the Church of England cemetery). We can never hope to completely clear the site of the undergrowth but we have done some work in the area where your parents are buried (if I have deduced correctly where that is). Is there a gravestone on the grave?

Hugh

Hi Hugh. No the graves containing my mother and dad had no standing stone.
As a youth, as a member of the church, I carried the cross from church to cemetery and back, for the annual Easter sunday procession. At that time there was a chapel some distance from the gates. It was still there when dad was buried in the 60's.
In the winter; with snow on the ground, the coffins were lowed down Waller road on sledges. On one occasion the beares slipped over and the coffin went all the way down into the ginnel.

Bill.

If possible could any one give me more info on the pikelet shop as my daughter bought it twelve years ago it is now a hairdressing salon one of my daughters clients who live on palm st used to work there but has since past away we would love to know more about the history of the shop we know a couple of doors away a house had bacon written on the lintel above the door but this has since been painted out thankyou very much

Hi bill castle - You won't mind me smiling at the thought of a coffin sliding down an icy Waller Rd, in fact it sounds like an old comedy routine. I lived on Waller Rd for a time, if you walked down the road on the right hand side before it joins the hill at the bottom, there were approx six semi detached houses built high on the bank immediately after a very old bungalow, all these houses had lots of steps up from the road. The cemetery that everybody is mentioning, would that be the one that had the main gate on Rivelin Valley Rd? Were there other entrances also, and is it still used?

There are three cemeteries that happen to be adjacent, rather than one in several parts.The Catholic cemetery is older than the other two. There are still plenty of blackberries, but for me, even better are some wild raspberries!

I belong to the Friends of Walkley Cemetery (the Church of England cemetery). We can never hope to completely clear the site of the undergrowth but we have done some work in the area where your parents are buried (if I have deduced correctly where that is). Is there a gravestone on the grave?

Hugh
Hi there Hugh, Is it possible to walk through all three cemeteries by entering from Rivelin Valley Rd, If not is there another entrance that makes it possible.
Cheers.

Hi. Does any one know of my grandparents Fred and Vera Beal. Had 4 daughters, Barbara, Christine, Kathleen and Pauline. Lived at 19 Bloor Street untill it was demolished. Thank you. Julie

St Marys had a parade from South Road to the cemetry once a year it was lead by the 147th St Marys Scout Band in which I played bugle.

Hi there Hugh, Is it possible to walk through all three cemeteries by entering from Rivelin Valley Rd, If not is there another entrance that makes it possible.
Cheers.

There are no official links between the cemeteries but there are a number of gaps in the walls which make this possible.

The easiest route is from the Catholic cemetery into the Jewish cemetery (the gap in the wall is close to the ginnel and therefore not far from the bend in Waller Road). The way into the CofE cemetery is close by.

This map shows most of the three cemeteries, though it doesn't show the entrance to the RC one:

St Mary's Cemetery Walkley (http://sheffieldindexers.com/images/StMarysWalkley.jpg)

Hugh

St Marys had a parade from South Road to the cemetry once a year it was lead by the 147th St Marys Scout Band in which I played bugle.

As a youth, as a member of the church, I carried the cross from church to cemetery and back, for the annual Easter sunday procession.

We always mention the Resurrection Day services on our guided tours. They began in 1902 and became a phenomenon. Sidney Smith (the second vicar, who started them) claims in his memoirs that in one year there were 25,000 people in the cemetery.

More recently in one of his books of reminiscences Roy Davey wrote about the importance of this event for him and his friends when they were teenagers. It was the first event of the year when young people would be dressed up and out of doors where they could see and be seen.

Hugh

Polly's was long gone when I came to Sheffield but I think I can work out how it got the name (officially it was the Rivelin View Hotel, and its address was 204 Bolehill Rd).

James (Jimmy) HARRISON moved there from The Royal on Walkley Street some time between 1905 and 1911. He died in 1917 and by 1920 the pub was being run by his married daughter Polly and her husband William Newbould. William died in 1940 and Polly, (I think?), re-married a Henry TURNER. I don't know if she was still there when the gale struck in 1956(?). I have been told that the damage was so bad that the pub was demolished.

The pub had a reputation, certainly when Jimmy was there as a place for the green-fingered. Jimmy was a reknowned grower of chrysanthemums. I have also been told that in later years there was a regular Sunday afternoon 'show' of choice flowers (and maybe vegetables) in the back room of the pub.

Hugh

I think Jimmy was my great great granddad. My granddad, William Harrison, was born at the Rivelin View Hotel in July 1907 - his father was Charles Harrison, who we assume was Jimmy's son. We think that Charles and family left the hotel soon after William was born - some kind of family feud/falling out. Does anyone know what might have happened or can anyone add to the family's history?

The green fingers must have run in the family - my Granddad was also a keen chrysanthemum grower right up until his death in 1983.

Mike

I think Jimmy was my great great granddad. My granddad, William Harrison, was born at the Rivelin View Hotel in July 1907 - his father was Charles Harrison, who we assume was Jimmy's son. We think that Charles and family left the hotel soon after William was born - some kind of family feud/falling out. Does anyone know what might have happened or can anyone add to the family's history?

The green fingers must have run in the family - my Granddad was also a keen chrysanthemum grower right up until his death in 1983.

Mike

I'm sure the relationships you quote are correct - as well as our work in the cemetery we have been transcribing the parish registers and we have both Charles' marriage and William's baptism on file. If you are interested I will send you the details in a private message (so as not to fill up the thread with family history). Meanwhile I thought this would be of more general interest:

Sheffield Daily Independent 1 May 1917

‘MUM EXPERT

DEATH OF MR. JAMES HARRISON, A FAMED SHEFFIELD AMATEUR.

Many people in the Sheffield district will regret to hear of the death of Mr. James Harrison, one of the old school of working man chrysanthemum experts and landlord of the Rivelin View Hotel, Walkley, which occurred on Saturday last. His age was 64 years. For some months he had been in an unsatisfactory state of health, and recently had a nasty accident, which gave him a serious shaking and necessitated his going into hospital.

Prior to going to Rivelin Mr. Harrison, or “Jimmy” as he preferred to be called, kept other houses in that end of Sheffield and was well-known on that account; but more especially for his enthusiasm for horticulture. In the days when he worked as a grinder, and before the growing of show chrysanthemums had attained to the popularity that it now has, he was an enthusiast in mastering the secrets of producing mammoth, perfect blooms. Since that time he devoted nearly all his leisure to the art, with the result that he was one of England’s expert amateurs at the business.

He won many prizes, especially with in-curved varieties, and triumphed in national shows at derby and elsewhere – not to speak of local successes – to the extent of carrying off leading honours in all England classes. It was no uncommon thing for him to stay up all night watching special blooms and taking other measures to ensure that they would be perfect for the show bench on the appointed day. He would spend many hours, too, trimming and perfecting the curl of the petals. In short he loved his flowers as tenderly as children, and was never tired of discoursing on them and the merits and demerits of different methods of culture. Thus to a large extent his house became a Mecca for “mum” lovers.

Mr. Harrison leaves a widow and several grown up children; one of whom, a well-know runner, is now serving in France. The funeral will be tomorrow.

The memorial in the cemetery, a stone cross, is unfortunately broken, but it is possible to see that it is decorated with a carving of a chrysanthemum.

Hugh

I'm sure the relationships you quote are correct - as well as our work in the cemetery we have been transcribing the parish registers and we have both Charles' marriage and William's baptism on file. If you are interested I will send you the details in a private message (so as not to fill up the thread with family history). Meanwhile I thought this would be of more general interest:



The memorial in the cemetery, a stone cross, is unfortunately broken, but it is possible to see that it is decorated with a carving of a chrysanthemum.

Hugh

Many thanks Hugh - I'd really appreciate more details through a private message.

Best wishes

Mike

I don't recognise any of the names, Tooeg, and most of my Robinson forebears in Walkley go back a bit further than this. Great-grandad Harry Robinson (1869-1937) lived on Duncombe Street and his eldest son William (1889-1961) on Matlock Road. Harry's daughter Doris never married and remained at 135 Duncombe Street until she died in 1974. My dad's brother Sydney returned to his roots (from Woodland View) when he bought 84 Cundy Street in the late 1950s.
They were all a bit eccentric. Maybe it's a family trait....:(

I remember the robinsons at 84 cundy st, i used to live opposite at 95 and yeah your right they were a bit eccentric, i saw only yesterday whilst browsing the housing market that 84 was up for sale, cant believe a house that big has only 2 bedrooms, was the best years of life life at walkley and would love to move back there one day

I don't recognise any of the names, Tooeg, and most of my Robinson forebears in Walkley go back a bit further than this. Great-grandad Harry Robinson (1869-1937) lived on Duncombe Street and his eldest son William (1889-1961) on Matlock Road. Harry's daughter Doris never married and remained at 135 Duncombe Street until she died in 1974. My dad's brother Sydney returned to his roots (from Woodland View) when he bought 84 Cundy Street in the late 1950s.
They were all a bit eccentric. Maybe it's a family trait....:(

I remember the robinsons at 84 cundy st, i used to live opposite at 95 and yeah your right they were a bit eccentric, i saw only yesterday whilst browsing the housing market that 84 was up for sale, cant believe a house that big has only 2 bedrooms, was the best years of life life at walkley and would love to move back there one day

I remember the robinsons at 84 cundy st, i used to live opposite at 95 and yeah your right they were a bit eccentric, i saw only yesterday whilst browsing the housing market that 84 was up for sale, cant believe a house that big has only 2 bedrooms, was the best years of life life at walkley and would love to move back there one day
Was it just opposite (but slighly above) the School with a gate and drive?

Was just opposite (but slighly above) the School with a gate and drive?

Hi was 91 or 101, god it's years since ive been down cundy st, we lived there back in 1966-74 , do you remember the old church that use to be at the bootom of the road, it was derilict when we used to play in it with no floorboards , we just use to balance across the beams.. fearless at that age .
Had many a good times living there.

..cant believe a house that big has only 2 bedrooms..Yes - the double-fronted house was only one room deep when it was built in the 1800s (long before any of the adjacent houses) but in the 1920s a two-storey extension was built at the back for a kitchen and bathroom. There was a beautiful carved-wood Adam style fireplace in the right-hand douwstairs room - I wonder if it is still there. Sydney lived there alone until early 1995 when he sold up and moved into a flat at Upperthorpe; he died in September of that year aged 75.

Hi was 91 or 101, god it's years since ive been down cundy st, we lived there back in 1966-74 , do you remember the old church that use to be at the bootom of the road, it was derilict when we used to play in it with no floorboards , we just use to balance across the beams.. fearless at that age .
Had many a good times living there.If it was opposite the school it would have been an even number.
I lived in Cundy Street from 1950-66 when I left on joining the army.
There used to be two churches, one was opposite the bottom of Cundy street, it was demolished in the late 50s I reckon, the one you mentioned stood for some years in a derelict state.

Yes - the double-fronted house was only one room deep when it was built in the 1800s (long before any of the adjacent houses) but in the 1920s a two-storey extension was built at the back for a kitchen and bathroom. There was a beautiful carved-wood Adam style fireplace in the right-hand douwstairs room - I wonder if it is still there. Sydney lived there alone until early 1995 when he sold up and moved into a flat at Upperthorpe; he died in September of that year aged 75.can you tell me if that was the house I mentioned in my previous post #189?

can you tell me if that was the house I mentioned in my previous post #189?

yeah im sure thats the one, if you go on houses for sale (i think it was elr) you can actually do a virtual tour room to room , it looks really nice.yeah the church im on about was a the bottom on the right hand side of cundy st , i never did find out what it was called , although ive tried to look it up but have never been able to find it. .. Mike

I just look at the house online - they have certainly made a nice job of renovating the property, and there is also a "sun lounge" at the back (evidently used as a dining room) which wasn't there in the early 1990s.

OLd man Binks the barber did not die cutting someones hair, he died after swallowing his false teeth in bed while drunk.

The tennis court was at the back of the Rose House.
Big Ron Goff lived in the long row on Bole Hill Road, just before Pollys Pub

My family lived in Waller road from the end of WW1 and still live there.
As a boy in the 30's I attended Bole Hill primary school, Miss Brient ran the babies class, with Miss Marsden the next in line. Miss Brient informed me that she had taught my brother before me, (he was 19 years my senior).
Not the days of the contract teacher.
I remember the eleven plus class was run by a Miss Westeren. I passed that year and spent the next five years attending Nether Edge Grammer.
Does enyone know the Housley's. Windle's, or Ibbotson's, all lived in Waller road in the 30's - 50's?
I can remember Mr Windle, used to have an allotment on Bole Hill Road, was brought up on Bole Hill Road, now live on Waller Road, just below where Mr Windle lived but on the other side.

The tennis court was at the back of the Rose House.
Big Ron Goff lived in the long row on Bole Hill Road, just before Pollys Pub
Was he the guy that rode a big Triumph motor bike!

Was he the guy that rode a big Triumph motor bike!
Yes, he weighed about 25 stone, his wife was about 7 stone wet through. Want to know who you are, I am Gilbert Hartley's son.

Yes, he weighed about 25 stone, his wife was about 7 stone wet through. Want to know who you are, I am Gilbert Hartley's son.
Gilbert was a big friend of mine , a very clever man. as to who i am well, i have met you once or twice perhaps your Leslie will enlighten you!

OLd man Binks the barber did not die cutting someones hair, he died after swallowing his false teeth in bed while drunk.The guy who died whilst cutting someones hair was at the end of South Rd where the old tram terminus was, I think it was Thomases.

The guy who died whilst cutting someones hair was at the end of South Rd where the old tram terminus was, I think it was Thomases.

Could that have been 1959?

From records I think the address was 394 South Road and the hairdresser was Albert Joseph James THOMAS.

Does anyone remember getting their hair cut there?

My experience of getting my hair cut as a child (not in Sheffield) was that it was a bit like going to the dentist - scary man in a long white coat, gleaming sharp instruments.

Hugh

Could that have been 1959?

From records I think the address was 394 South Road and the hairdresser was Albert Joseph James THOMAS.

Does anyone remember getting their hair cut there?

My experience of getting my hair cut as a child (not in Sheffield) was that it was a bit like going to the dentist - scary man in a long white coat, gleaming sharp instruments.

Hugh
Would have been around that time
I had my haircut there just once and suffered the 'Tuppeny All Off' never went back again from then on it was 'Binks' till I joined the army in 1966 and left Walkley although sometimes we did go to a barber called Wagner in the same group of shops as Bob Clarkes (fishmonger).

I used to go the Herbalists on South Road for a packet of three now and then.
I used to stand looking in the window until no one was in the shop ,the Herbalist instantly reached up to the top shelf placed my little box of rubbers in a brown paper bag with the words a little bit for the weekend sir.
I think the herbalists name was Hartley.

Mr Binks the Barber cut my hair when I was about 2 years old. My mother complained for years after that because he cut off all my curls. They have grown back now though better than they ever were.
@Bassman62. I don't seem to ba able to PM you. Do you remember a scruffy lad called Bunny that lived at 81 Walkley street from being born in 1941 until moving to Woodhouse in 1955? That's me. I worked on BT also from 1963 until 1988. You wouldn't be Bob Swift by any chance would you?

i lived in cromwell street the bottom half

Mr Binks the Barber cut my hair when I was about 2 years old. My mother complained for years after that because he cut off all my curls. They have grown back now though better than they ever were.
@Bassman62. I don't seem to ba able to PM you. Do you remember a scruffy lad called Bunny that lived at 81 Walkley street from being born in 1941 until moving to Woodhouse in 1955? That's me. I worked on BT also from 1963 until 1988. You wouldn't be Bob Swift by any chance would you?
Bern Have you ever heard of the Newtons who lived at 159 Walkley St.
If not maybe Hillsbro can help.Cheers

Mr Binks the Barber cut my hair when I was about 2 years old. My mother complained for years after that because he cut off all my curls. They have grown back now though better than they ever were.
@Bassman62. I don't seem to ba able to PM you. Do you remember a scruffy lad called Bunny that lived at 81 Walkley street from being born in 1941 until moving to Woodhouse in 1955? That's me. I worked on BT also from 1963 until 1988. You wouldn't be Bob Swift by any chance would you?

Would that be Bob Swift from Gleadless,now Upperthorpe.

@cutsie: no sorry I haven't heard of the Newtons. 159 would have been higher up Walkley st somwhere around where Hoole st crossed

@cutsie: no sorry I haven't heard of the Newtons. 159 would have been higher up Walkley st somwhere around where Hoole st crossed
Cheers i used to live on Hoole St and have just found out that my grandfather lived at that address on Walkley St in the late eighteen hundreds .I never knew that i was so close to my family past so hope to find out more .
Thanks.

I don't recognise any of the names, Tooeg, and most of my Robinson forebears in Walkley go back a bit further than this. Great-grandad Harry Robinson (1869-1937) lived on Duncombe Street and his eldest son William (1889-1961) on Matlock Road. Harry's daughter Doris never married and remained at 135 Duncombe Street until she died in 1974. My dad's brother Sydney returned to his roots (from Woodland View) when he bought 84 Cundy Street in the late 1950s.
They were all a bit eccentric. Maybe it's a family trait....:(

I remember sydney as i used to live at 95 cundy street, which was just about opposite and his mrs..she was a little eccentric to say the least, she was always telling us off for playing football in the school yard,and sydney always had just a vest on , he use to frighten the crap out of me but never did me any harm , i saw not long ago that 84 was up for sale for what looked like a big house off the street i couldn't believe it was only a 2 bedroom, i have really fond memories of growing up in cundy street, can you remember the church at the bottom , i have looked for ages to try and find the name of it , any ideas ?

I lived in Walkley for about a year and can honestly say I have never known such a narrow minded, petty, whingeing, unfriendly and parochial bunch of neighbours in my entire life

I lived in Walkley for about a year and can honestly say I have never known such a narrow minded, petty, whingeing, unfriendly and parochial bunch of neighbours in my entire life

Clearly their regime of ostracism worked as you are coming across as the sort who would not adjust to the mores and standards of this close-knit community.I hope that your spell in Malaysia suits you,and I bet no-one locks their doors where you are.

... i saw not long ago that 84 was up for sale for what looked like a big house off the street i couldn't believe it was only a 2 bedroom.. Yes - it looks like a big house but it's only one room deep. When it was first built it had just four large rooms + cellars. Built in (I think) the mid-1800s it originally had a lot of land around it that was sold off for development in about the 1870s. Sydney paid less than £1000 for it in the 1950s, and sold it for £32,000 in 1995 (by which time it was in poor condition internally). It sold for £154,000 in 2007...can you remember the church at the bottom , i have looked for ages to try and find the name of it , any ideas ?It was Cundy Street United Methodist Chapel - here is a link (http://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?action=zoom&keywords=Ref_No_increment;MATCHES;(^|%20+)s04923($ |%20+)&continueUrl=ZnJvbnRlbmQucGhwPyZrZXl3b3Jkcz1hbGwlM0 JNQVRDSEVTJTNCJTI4JTVFJTdDKyUyQiUyOUN1bmR5X1N0cmVl dCUyOCUyNCU3QyslMkIlMjkmYWN0aW9uPXNlYXJjaA==) to a photo on the picturesheffield.com site.

Yes - it looks like a big house but it's only one room deep. When it was first built it had just four large rooms + cellars. Built in (I think) the mid-1800s it originally had a lot of land around it that was sold off for development in about the 1870s. Sydney paid less than £1000 for it in the 1950s, and sold it for £32,000 in 1995 (by which time it was in poor condition internally). It sold for £154,000 in 2007.It was Cundy Street United Methodist Chapel - here is a link (http://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?action=zoom&keywords=Ref_No_increment;MATCHES;(^|%20+)s04923($ |%20+)&continueUrl=ZnJvbnRlbmQucGhwPyZrZXl3b3Jkcz1hbGwlM0 JNQVRDSEVTJTNCJTI4JTVFJTdDKyUyQiUyOUN1bmR5X1N0cmVl dCUyOCUyNCU3QyslMkIlMjkmYWN0aW9uPXNlYXJjaA==) to a photo on the picturesheffield.com site.

Thanks for the info on the church, ive looked at the picture it's how i remember it but maybe a little more derilict, was it used later as some kind of printers , i say this as we used to play in it and down in one of the cellars there were loads of old printing tablets, really appreciate the info , thanks

Another church was St Saviour's, a chapel-of-ease to St Mary's which faced up Cundy Street from the other side of Whitehouse Road. This went out of use in 1934 but the building stood empty for a long time, according to the church council minutes.

The only photo I know of this church is attached to an illuminated address to the Vicar of Walkley which is in St Mary's somewhere.

Hugh

...was it used later as some kind of printers , i say this as we used to play in it and down in one of the cellars there were loads of old printing tablets... Yes, you've awoken a faint memory; I do remember a printing firm being there for a time. I imagine this would be in the late 1960s; the properties would have been demolished around 1970-71.

Another church was St Saviour's, a chapel-of-ease to St Mary's which faced up Cundy Street from the other side of Whitehouse Road. This went out of use in 1934 but the building stood empty for a long time, according to the church council minutes.

We used to play in the rubble of that church 1946/7. I always thought that was a result of a visit by the Germans in 1940, it certainly looked like it was bombed out.

Clearly their regime of ostracism worked as you are coming across as the sort who would not adjust to the mores and standards of this close-knit community.I hope that your spell in Malaysia suits you,and I bet no-one locks their doors where you are.

I can only relate what I experienced. Having growing up in a close knit community on Parson Cross, it was hardly a case of culture shock. Perhaps I was just unfortunate in the neighbours I had. I don't really see what security has to do with this, however for the record someone tried to steal my car when I lived in Bole Hill Road but was thwarted by the steering lock. The grouchy old git next door very kindly called the police, not to report the attempted theft, but to report the car was causing an obstruction as it had crept out into the road a couple of feet before the the steering lock engaged.
Having said that. there was a very nice lady used to serve in the mini store just up Walkley Lane and the landlord of a pub nearby (Freedom?) was a top bloke.
Thanks, my ten years stint in Malaysia is suiting me very nicely, it certainly beats the pants off Walkley and the Little Hitler mentality of some of its residents.
It was a long time ago, perhaps things have changed:rolleyes:

I can only relate what I experienced. Having growing up in a close knit community on Parson Cross, it was hardly a case of culture shock. Perhaps I was just unfortunate in the neighbours I had. I don't really see what security has to do with this, however for the record someone tried to steal my car when I lived in Bole Hill Road but was thwarted by the steering lock. The grouchy old git next door very kindly called the police, not to report the attempted theft, but to report the car was causing an obstruction as it had crept out into the road a couple of feet before the the steering lock engaged.
Having said that. there was a very nice lady used to serve in the mini store just up Walkley Lane and the landlord of a pub nearby (Freedom?) was a top bloke.
Thanks, my ten years stint in Malaysia is suiting me very nicely, it certainly beats the pants off Walkley and the Little Hitler mentality of some of its residents.
It was a long time ago, perhaps things have changed:rolleyes:

Walkley is still full of students, trouble is most of the Pubs are shut, there's only the Florist, Freedom and that one on Commonside left.

Walkley is still full of students, trouble is most of the Pubs are shut, there's only the Florist, Freedom and that one on Commonside left.

Thanks for the info
The Walkley Cottage has gone?

Colin Amblers Brother (Ted) worked on BT with me in the 80s.

audrey ambler had a hairdressers on south rd she married my cousin gordon herring they moved to australia

Tiger 110 I think

he rode a bsa road rocket and from the back it looked as though it was fitted with saddlebags but it was his backside hanging over he was a plasterer they say when he got on the batten they got off