There has been a Major incident in London, keep listening to the news for updates.

power surge cause explosions on london tube.

Looks like all underground services have now been suspended.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4659093.stm
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Total chaos in London. Fire engines, people milling about.

There have been casualties.

Power surge on underground.

This post 9.55am

Explosions reported at various stations!

At least 30 dead, trains stuck in tunnels (uncomfirmed).

Just been on Five Live that a cabbie says at least thirty people have died.

Sky News report (http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1188265,00.html)

News report on skys website
http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1188265,00.html

itv news says there getting power surgers in their studio so must be the whole of london

bomb gone of on a bus

One of my students has just arrived at College covered in cuts and bruises. Apparently hit by a blast on the Picadilly line.

Originally posted by f_g
bomb gone of on a bus
Really? is this turning into somthing more than power surges..

yes

itv news - double decker bus ripped apart by bomb in london

My god this is just awfull.. I have some family in london.. bloody terrorists. Am shaking like a leaf

apartley the bomb went of at the same time as the tube explosions.

BBC are saying this is a power surge. Sounds more like a thin coverup to me!

Probably trying to stop a mass panic..

they said on the news theyare dismissing the incedant as a terrorist attact and think it was a power cut or something to do with the electricals

put itv news on then! now on ITV normal channel

Watching Sky news, underground union say it was a bomb

Mums on the phone to my brother who lives down there now. He's homes and ok at the moment but he has a very important meeting today and HAS to go out. Mum and I are pleading with him not to go but he has to go... I know I am rambling here but I am so scared.

scotland yard will not comment on if they think its terroists.

The chance of it been a power surge is now very low.

Dont worry about rambling.. I know just how you feel.. feel quite useless wish there was somthing I could do to help.

Scotland Yard calling it a Major incident but it isn't very clear is it? Many conflicting signs and confusion.

I.T.V reporting even more explosions in central london

Scotland Yard are now confirming that there have been multiple incidents in central London.

Three bus explosions according to the unions

Three more busses gone up..

Apprently it wasn't a power surge!!!! (ITV news)

Originally posted by em3978
Apprently it wasn't a power surge!!!! (ITV news)

There are so many reports coming in that it's impossible to get a clear picture...............all that is clear is that there are many dead and injured.

LBC online here:

http://www.lbcnews1152.co.uk/article.asp?id=60542

Hi

Just watching news on BBC about several bomb blasts in London this morning. Serveral people have died. Lets just hope this is not our 9/11.

Let the thoughts of all Sheffield people be with them.

Live on BBC1 too now ... looks like major terrorist incident

Originally posted by Scat
Live on BBC1 too now ... looks like major terrorist incident

but which terrorists ?

Judging by the obvious co-ordination I reckon Al-Qaeda (after all, it was always a question of when, not if)

the french? dont know yet am sure someone will own up

Has anythinbg being confirmed yet. I fiurst heard power-surge although Powergen (who supply power) have stated it is nothing to do with them. But then a bus getting blown up??? Must be terrorist.

confirmed that their has been some deaths

3 buses blown up, 7 tube bombs is latest I'm getting

Originally posted by f_g
the french?

I doubt it, they are a bit p**sed-off with us at the moment but they wouldn't go this far.

London will be in chaos, you only need to shut the tube for one hour and the entire city grinds to a halt.

This on CNN.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/07/07/london.tube/index.html

Joe

what will happen with the g8 summit,what a day for this to happen when so much hope and good was to come out of it for so many suffering, i wonder if tony blair will come back to london,what SCUM these terrorists are.

just been another explosion in tavistock square

oh ****, this is terrible!!! :(

You attack London and you attack every race, creed and religion under the sun.

A wierd kind of terrorism IMO.

But maybe let's not jump to any conclusions.

looks like the emergency services have pesponded well , there are already lots of tents up everywhere treating people, looks like all those practice drills worked.

SKY News have confirmed it is a 'co-orindated terrist attack'

ITV news saying its too early to confirm if its terroist. Looks like every news channels saying something different.

BBC Confirming three explosions, lots uncomfirmed reports of other incedents. Police have said that there will a some further "controlled explosions" to come.

Just seen the pictures of a damaged bus - truly horrific.

Radio 5 live have quoated london ambulance service as saying that they are only going to attend life threatening emergencies around london so they can concentrate on this dasterdly attack

Has anyone actually managed to get through to london on the phone?

This is terrible, I imagine it will be extreme anti-capitalist protesters.

Attacks appear to cause as much confusion, and minmal casualty rate.

20 people dead so far (confirmed)

Ive spoken to some london companies, but they say a lot of their staff aren't in. I got through to my sister as well.

Originally posted by honeyplanet
Has anyone actually managed to get through to london on the phone?

Part of mobile network is being used by the emergency services.

This has all the hallmarks of al qaeda or there ilk!

Government spokesman confirms 20 deaths.

Terroists.I hope they all rot in hell.... sat biting nails waiting for call to let me know friends and family are safe ..

Being advised to stay away from London.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4659259.stm

Joe

Originally posted by venger
This is terrible, I imagine it will be extreme anti-capitalist protesters.

Attacks appear to cause as much confusion, and minmal casualty rate.

20 dead is hardly minimal.

More likely Al-Qaeda, if it is a terrorist attack. Very similar to Madrid.

Joe

Again on 5 live, people in Hawnsditch? have been told to evacuate to their basements. 4 comfirmed explosions many more uncomfirmed. AND now swindon station has been evacuated!!!

with the day after london 2012 london was the target of mindless bomb attacks,
incidents on double decker buses and tube trains being affected really makes us sit up and look at the place we live in,
is this revenge for iraq or just people trying to stop olympics who knows but something needs to happen

Nothing to do with Sheffield, but sympathies to those affected.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4659093.stm

Do you think it will spread up the country?

all bus services in london now suspended

package found at stockwell station

Originally posted by JoeP
20 dead is hardly minimal.

More likely Al-Qaeda, if it is a terrorist attack. Very similar to Madrid.

Joe

it is minimal compared to 9/11 attacks. all london transport has been suspeneded until further notice. lets hope that the deaths do not rise. my thoughts are with the families of the victims.
i have friends and family down there to and its a very nervous time.

EDIT: i am sickened to see the news asking for people with vidoe/picture mobile phones to send them the photos. they have special phone lines for it

make you wonder with sheffield having so many large venues if we could be affected:confused:

Heavily under discussion here (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=48150) mate :)

Originally posted by JoeP
Very similar to Madrid.

Joe

1 dead is unacceptable but very different to Madrid.

al Mufti there wanted a large casualty count.

I go with anti-captalists, let us see what unfolds.

For those trying to contact loved ones, voadaphone have now said that they cannot hand the ammount of calls in london at the mo

there was a bomb scare on tuesday evening in sheffield so you never know. they shut the whole of park square roundabout

10:17 bbc news online

There have been three confirmed explosions - one on a bus at Tavistock Square, central London, and two at Aldgate East and Edgware Road Tube stations.

Mainline London to Scotland train company GNER said it did not expect its East Coast Main Line services to run as far as London at any time on Thursday.

Commuter Gerard Bithell's train was diverted from Moorgate to King's Cross and said travellers were told there had been a crash involving Tube trains.



Scotland Yard have said there will be further, controlled, explosions.

Originally posted by savbaby

EDIT: i am sickened to see the news asking for people with vidoe/picture mobile phones to send them the photos. they have special phone lines for it

Evidence perhaps to help build a bigger picture.

All useful information you can be sure will be handed to the police.

Times like this, police and media work closely with each other.

apparently new street station in birmingham has been evactuated. Only heard it 2nd hand, from my colleague, who's girlfriend was apparently there.

Swindon station is now closed "owing to an incident"

There are bound to be a lot of false alarms at present, but they all have to be acted on...just in case.

People are getting scared and jumpy, thats exactly what they want.

Army now on the streets in covent garden

Was going to go to town, but I think I'll stay in today actually!

Since there was a bomb scare here the other night, and now something has actually happened, I'm not wanting to get on the bus to work in a bit...

I've had the news on for the past half hour, and it's awful. So scary and upsetting...

Originally posted by nick2
People are getting scared and jumpy, thats exactly what they want.
terrorism is exactly what it say, to bring terror and the fact the news reports it like it does installs the terror into the rest of the british public therfor helping the terrorists do their job!

The main aim of terrorist is to cause terror, that they kill people whilst doing it is secondry to these scum. I don't care who they are, so called extreme islamist terrorists, anti capitalists, ira, combat 18, they are all facists.

Just had a call from a pal in Baker Street. He says I am the only person he could contact as all the mobile lines to his more local friends are impossible to get through.

Fortunately he's fine but says he is going to stop where he is and not go anywhere else as 'there are bombs all over London'.

He was on a tube train at the time but the train stopped at a station and the passengers were informed to leave.

Scary stuff indeed.

I don't think there will me any other explosions other than in london- if you want to disable a country you go for the heart don't you!!

This isn't going to affect my train trip from Barnehurst to Victoria is it?

Alex - :)

Originally posted by amhudson119
This isn't going to affect my train trip from Barnehurst to Victoria is it?

Alex - :)

How very thoughtful...,

Does anyone know if the government buildings in Sheffield are open for people going into work?

Originally posted by amhudson119
This isn't going to affect my train trip from Barnehurst to Victoria is it?

Alex - :)

pillock, people are probably dieing and all u can think about is your train journey.

Originally posted by Twiglet
Does anyone know if the government buildings in Sheffield are open for people going into work?

they almost certainly are, sheffield is 250 miles from london you know.

My brother lives in Kings Cross, still unable to contact him. I am sure he will be ok

Originally posted by Twiglet
Does anyone know if the government buildings in Sheffield are open for people going into work?

I would think so, it doesn't appear that they have targeted the goverment- they have gone for as many casualties as possible the cowards.

Originally posted by Cyclone
they almost certainly are, sheffield is 250 miles from london you know.

I know! Its just they run that colour coded alert system so if the country alert level is high enough the building will close. And I was just wondering if this was the case.

Originally posted by scottf
they have gone for as many casualties as possible the cowards.

No they have not, I do not agree with what has happened, but news channels are reporting that this was not intended to hurt many people, but to cripple the flow of the city.

You will only be stopped from going into a government building if there is a class one alert. If this happens a mile cordon is setup and no vehicles are allowed to move within it.

But a class one threat is a threat on that specific building!

Mobile networks have been turned off to prevent mobiles being used to detonate further explosives.

This may explain why police have found some which haven't gone off.

Have they found many bombs that haven't gone off do you know?

Originally posted by Cyclone
apparently new street station in birmingham has been evactuated. Only heard it 2nd hand, from my colleague, who's girlfriend was apparently there.
Are there any more updates on this yet?

I think that anyone who bombs the underground and buses during the rush hour are not too concened about causing deaths.

Originally posted by venger
No they have not, I do not agree with what has happened, but news channels are reporting that this was not intended to hurt many people, but to cripple the flow of the city.

If these bombs where to cripple the transport network and not to hurt people, then they would have blown it up late at night and hit the power systems not the carriages with innocent people in them!

Minimum of 6 blasts so far according to London News

Six bombs have gone off so far, five on the underground and one on a bus. Met Police.

could i ask that people specify a source when they add anything new (even if it's just overheard my dog on the walkie talky to the budgy).

and no, nothing else on new street, and i'm not going over to find out.

:( Grrrrrrrrrr!

Originally posted by venger
No they have not, I do not agree with what has happened, but news channels are reporting that this was not intended to hurt many people, but to cripple the flow of the city.

Well why didn't they do it at night then when there are less people on public transport rather than at 9am in the morning when everyone knows london is packed?

the bombers could have given a warning to evacuate the area, like the ira used to do on occasions. This would cause traffic chaos without harming life. The fact that they didn't speaks for its self

For maximum damage.

Originally posted by serapis
If these bombs where to cripple the transport network and not to hurt people, then they would have blown it up late at night and hit the power systems not the carriages with innocent people in them!...

Exactly, this was done to kill and frighten people, and cause disruption, not just cause disruption.

Lets face it, terrorists are not nice people.

Originally posted by venger
No they have not, I do not agree with what has happened, but news channels are reporting that this was not intended to hurt many people, but to cripple the flow of the city.

i agree as there seems to be not many deaths compared to other terrorist attacks that we have seen in the past. i do think its disgustong what they have done.

there is a man giving an interview who says that the underground is negligent as his train was allowed to carry on to another station after the first attcks, surely though the underground did not realise what was happening straight away

I reckon this is definatley something to do with the G8 summit being held in the UK. There shouldve been more security in London, everyone is just concentrating on 8 men in Scotland!!

Originally posted by serapis
If these bombs where to cripple the transport network and not to hurt people, then they would have blown it up late at night and hit the power systems not the carriages with innocent people in them!

Minimum of 6 blasts so far according to London News

Correct

At least no more confirmed recent explosions

Indications show up to now that divices were of a conventional type and no indications of of any chemicals beings used,,,,,Sky News.

It's truly dispicable. I just hope that's it now and nothing else will happen there today, it seems London has more than enough to contend with as it is.

Some of the eye witness accounts are horrific.

The best thing we can do here in Sheffield is to 'steady the buffs' and carry on, business as usual.

We keep an eye open for the unusual and just get on with our daily lives, unless, of course, we have friends or relatives down there.

When we start running around like headless chickens, the bad guys have won.

One thing I would add is that the Sky and BBC websites are a little intermittent right now - I guess that that's usage.

CNN seems more reliable, technically, but are behind in terms of news.

Joe

It has been confirmed by police that al qaeda is responsible for those explosions

I have just seen a horrific scene on bbc1, someone doing cpr on a black, burnt body. This image is going to stay with me for a long time

a so called expert as just said he's in no doubt suicide bombers were used

Originally posted by JFKvsNixon
the bombers could have given a warning to evacuate the area, like the ira used to do on occasions. This would cause traffic chaos without harming life. The fact that they didn't speaks for its self

Terrorists don't give warnings they just strike at any time

Originally posted by Sony
Correct
OTOH if they wanted to inflict maximum human death and destruction whoever is responsible for these atrocities could have done a lot worse in terms of creating casualties.

Like bombing the Live8 event in hyde park......

Originally posted by Sony
It has been confirmed by police that al qaeda is responsible for those explosions

Has it ?

Like cyclone says, please offer sources.

The main bus explosion 'may' have been a suicide bomber ITV news

Originally posted by Happy_Guy
Terrorists don't give warnings they just strike at any time

The IRA did when they destroyed the centre of Manchester and bombed Canary Warf

Originally posted by venger
Has it ?

Like cyclone says, please offer sources.

The main bus explosion 'may' have been a suicide bomber ITV news

It ws confirmed on BBC1 by police

It hasn't been confirmed,the just said it is 'likely that al-qaida is responsible'

tony blair is making speech! he should be flying straight down to sort it out

Blair is going to London in the next couple of hours

I think Tony Blair handled that really well. He looked devastated.

Originally posted by uncleheed
Blair is going to London in the next couple of hours

If he did that the G8 summit would probably be brought to and end and that may have possibly been part of the aim behind the attack?

Originally posted by savbaby
tony blair is making speech! he should be flying straight down to sort it out

agreed- bush got slated for not coming straight to NYC after 9/11!!! blair should sod the g8 summit and get back to where he is needed!!

Originally posted by Olliekitten
I think Tony Blair handled that really well. He looked devastated.

I agree, i am not Blairs biggest fan but he really did look devestated

Originally posted by Olliekitten
I think Tony Blair handled that really well. He looked devastated.

i agree with how he handled it but i feel he should leave to show his support straight away not in a couple of hours. maybe there is not much he can do in all honesty but showing support would be better than nothing

can someone put up a transcript of the speak if they find one?

he's going down to london then coming back. if they stop the summit they have won. we need to not ket them get what they want.

Originally posted by scottf
agreed- bush got slated for not coming straight to NYC after 9/11!!! blair should sod the g8 summit and get back to where he is needed!!

The G8 will continue in his absence,and he will return this evening when a statement from all the leaders will be released

Originally posted by savbaby
tony blair is making speech! he should be flying straight down to sort it out

And the point of that would be?

Think sensibly, here. What the hell can he do in London to REALLY make a difference on the day? As soon as he goes there then the security entourage will just get in the way.

Let the people on the ground deal with it. That's what he has ministers and civil servants for.

Time for some Corporal Jones advice, and also that of the HHGTTG - 'Don't Panic'.

Joe

when you have so many immigrants with the freedom to rome around any city they please with no ID and no restictions how can we stop this type of thing from happening it was only a matter of time before these islamic extremists struck.......a few weeks ago i was in london with my daughter and we were talking about how easy the tube would be to bomb......i must have asked 4-5 people for directions till i found someone who spoke english,i'm not having a pop at foreigners i'm just pointing out how easy it is for illegals to blend in without causing sucspicion.

A website has been found that claims responsibility for the attacks.

Source: BBC News

Originally posted by JoeP
And the point of that would be?

Think sensibly, here. What the hell can he do in London to REALLY make a difference on the day? As soon as he goes there then the security entourage will just get in the way.

Let the people on the ground deal with it. That's what he has ministers and civil servants for.

Time for some Corporal Jones advice, and also that of the HHGTTG - 'Don't Panic'.

Joe

I dont think its about making a differance to whats going on joe- i think its more to show the british public that he is back and he has taken control and not to be scared!!

Kirky, speaking English does not make you unable to do such a terrible thing. There is all types of evil that could do this.

6 blasts at tube stations confirmed

1 bus blast confirmed

People still trapped at Kings Cross

Originally posted by kirky
when you have so many immigrants with the freedom to rome around any city they please with no ID and no restictions how can we stop this type of thing from happening it was only a matter of time before these islamic extremists struck.......a few weeks ago i was in london with my daughter and we were talking about how easy the tube would be to bomb......i must have asked 4-5 people for directions till i found someone who spoke english,i'm not having a pop at foreigners i'm just pointing out how easy it is for illegals to blend in without causing sucspicion.

This is not the time to make some sort of pop at immigrants

Originally posted by uncleheed
A website has been found that claims responsibility for the attacks.

Source: BBC News

Links please people. Please supply links to sites with the information you are sharing.

Agreed JFKvsNixon. Well done.

At least one tube train still stuck in tunnel at Kings Cross

Large number of casualties reported

Many fatalities on board

My sister said there's an incident in Brighton too. Anyone know anything?

Originally posted by uncleheed
A website has been found that claims responsibility for the attacks.

Source: BBC News


have they said who it is yet ?

Originally posted by serapis
Links please people. Please supply links to sites with the information you are sharing.

Sorry,I'm at home watching BBC News,just trying to get information to people who have no access to live,breaking events

Originally posted by mjlacey21
My sister said there's an incident in Brighton too. Anyone know anything?

Could that be jsut an evacuation?

God, this is just terrible. How can anyone do something like this?

This is a good place to keep up-to-date with the events as they unfold if you dont have a radio or TV nearby.

London blasts: At a glance
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4659331.stm

Originally posted by uncleheed
Sorry,I'm at home watching BBC News,just trying to get information to people who have no access to live,breaking events

that's great. can't get onto any news websites here apart from CNN which is a little behind. appreciate the updates.

Originally posted by kirky
when you have so many immigrants with the freedom to rome around any city they please with no ID and no restictions how can we stop this type of thing from happening it was only a matter of time before these islamic extremists struck.......a few weeks ago i was in london with my daughter and we were talking about how easy the tube would be to bomb......i must have asked 4-5 people for directions till i found someone who spoke english,i'm not having a pop at foreigners i'm just pointing out how easy it is for illegals to blend in without causing sucspicion.

Unfortunately, ID cards won't stop people being in this country illegally and won't prevent people carrying bombs.

Billions of pounds of taxpayers money spent on the Iraq war, servicement dead, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis killed and now civillians being killed on the streets of our Capital. Still, at least Saddam Hussein is in prison... it has all been worth it. :loopy: :loopy: :loopy:

Originally posted by kirky
when you have so many immigrants with the freedom to rome around any city they please with no ID and no restictions how can we stop this type of thing from happening it was only a matter of time before these islamic extremists struck.......a few weeks ago i was in london with my daughter and we were talking about how easy the tube would be to bomb......i must have asked 4-5 people for directions till i found someone who spoke english,i'm not having a pop at foreigners i'm just pointing out how easy it is for illegals to blend in without causing sucspicion.

stop being an ass.

7 confirmed explosions

Just got this E-mail at work :

Head Office can confirm that all drivers have been recalled back to the LONDON CENTRAL CITY LINK DEPOT... all 'collections and deliveries' in the areas have been suspended and will not be attempted today.

Future updates will be provided.

Reports on BBC:

"Almost certainly"the work of Al-qaida

Likewise analysts with reuters - http://tinyurl.com/8tek5

www.sky.com/skynews is good and pretty fast at the minute

unconfirmed - a man with a bomb strapped to him has just been killed by armed officers outside Canary Wharf

f'n ******* scum

Makes me soooooooooooooooo angry!!!! Sick ********...........

Originally posted by f_g
unconfirmed - a man with a bomb strapped to him has just been killed by armed officers outside Canary Wharf

Source?

Originally posted by Olliekitten
Kirky, speaking English does not make you unable to do such a terrible thing. There is all types of evil that could do this.

that wasn't my point:rolleyes:

The bloody gits, killing innocent people.....

Can't believe this....

Originally posted by kirky
when you have so many immigrants with the freedom to rome around any city they please with no ID and no restictions how can we stop this type of thing from happening it was only a matter of time before these islamic extremists struck.......a few weeks ago i was in london with my daughter and we were talking about how easy the tube would be to bomb......i must have asked 4-5 people for directions till i found someone who spoke english,i'm not having a pop at foreigners i'm just pointing out how easy it is for illegals to blend in without causing sucspicion.

I agree with you completely.

Theres a pic of the bus on TV now.If anyone was on the upper deck,there is no way they could have survived

why don't you all stop arguing about immigrants until the dust has settled. people are dying for god's sake. have some respect

Originally posted by JFKvsNixon
This is not the time to make some sort of pop at immigrants
You'd have thought so wouldn't you. however it seems their are a few people desperate to gain as much political advantage out of this disaster as possible. What sort of heartless beast hears of an event like this and reacts by sitting down to write a political broadcast for their website

http://www.bnp.org.uk/news_detail.php?newsId=377

Source?

either bbc news,itv or sky

sorry between channels

Breaking news on SKY.Suicide bomber on bus

I know this is off topic, but i remember combat 18 or some other right wing group bombing a couple of gay bars. Not on this scale mind you.

Does anyone know if their is an emergency number I can call to find out a list of injured?

7 explosions

at least 2 dead

possible al qaeda link


Is the very latest

Agreed- i think people should hold off commenting until they confirm who actually did it!!!!

Originally posted by Disco_Cat
Does anyone know if their is an emergency number I can call to find out a list of injured?

No emergency number released as yet.


Reports earlier that all mobile networks closed down in London area,in case of remote detonation

Is there more conformation on the canary wharf incident?

Metropolitan police chief now claiming situation is under control

Originally posted by uncleheed
No emergency number released as yet.


Reports earlier that all mobile networks closed down in London area,in case of remote detonation

I thought I couldn't get through because the network was busy. Any idea how long htey will keep the lines down for?

Time will tell us what really is going on down there.

Originally posted by scottf
I dont think its about making a differance to whats going on joe- i think its more to show the british public that he is back and he has taken control and not to be scared!!

At least he's not sat on in a kids class reading "My Pet Goat".

Originally posted by honeyplanet
Is there more conformation on the canary wharf incident?

There isn't an incident- i jsut spoke to a guy in canary wharf and they were just evacuating them as a precaution.

Originally posted by Disco_Cat
I thought I couldn't get through because the network was busy. Any idea how long htey will keep the lines down for?

I should think until they are sure all devices are found and safe

Originally posted by alchresearch
At least he's not sat on in a kids class reading "My Pet Goat".

upside down if i remember correctly!!!

regarding the immigrant issue, I don't think it has anything to do with terrorism , I can recall two incidents where the police caught terrorists, one was the shoes bomber who was a british national and origin, and the other one who was hiding explosions in his home who was a british citizen of paki origin, so if you block and expel all immigrants or non british, you will find many terorrists.

The bus that was bombed had its roof blown compltely off.Its lying around 20 feet in front of the bus.

Originally posted by kirky
when you have so many immigrants with the freedom to rome around any city they please with no ID and no restictions how can we stop this type of thing from happening it was only a matter of time before these islamic extremists struck.......a few weeks ago i was in london with my daughter and we were talking about how easy the tube would be to bomb......i must have asked 4-5 people for directions till i found someone who spoke english,i'm not having a pop at foreigners i'm just pointing out how easy it is for illegals to blend in without causing sucspicion.

Congratulations, you have just delivered another victory to the terrorists.

It's exactly these views that they wish to ignite.

Pics on Sky news now from inside a tube as the incident occured.

Emergency lights on and smoke billowing in

Originally posted by scottf
upside down if i remember correctly!!!

Sadly no, that picture was faked.

Sketchy reports now of an incident at the Polish Embassy.

A terror group linked to al Qaeda has claimed it carried out a series of terror attacks on London that have left a number of people dead and hundreds injured.

According to skynews

Originally posted by msamman
so if you block and expel all immigrants or non british, you will find many terorrists. [/B]

I can't see how expelling Sweedish, Austrailians etc would stop terrorism, oh hang on i get it, you meen non white immirants??? I am not really sure that this is the right time to make this weak, ignorant, nonsensical point .

this is exactly what I am saying that attacking immigrants won't help and should stop because simply they have nothing to do with it

Originally posted by JFKvsNixon
I can't see how expelling Sweedish, Austrailians etc would stop terrorism, oh hang on i get it, you meen non white immirants??? I am not really sure that this is the right time to make this weak, ignorant, nonsensical point .

Originally posted by msamman
this is exactly what I am saying that attacking immigrants won't help and should stop because simply they have nothing to do with it

ah so it was british people that did it:confused: or japenese tourists perhaps:rolleyes:

Originally posted by msamman
this is exactly what I am saying that attacking immigrants won't help and should stop because simply they have nothing to do with it

You then have a hundred of my most humblist appologies, i aggree 100% with you

As far as I was aware terrorists came in all colours, sexes and religions. Expel all the non-white immigrants?? aaah ok cos none of the Irish Terrorists or Admiral pub bombers have ever done anything then??? Or were we tricked into thinking they were white??

Can we stick to the facts please.

Originally posted by kirky
ah so it was british people that did it:confused: or japenese tourists perhaps:rolleyes:

The last time London suffered attacks like this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/781755.stm

And his motive was to whip up the sentiments you are now expressing.

Originally posted by Deavon
Congratulations, you have just delivered another victory to the terrorists.

It's exactly these views that they wish to ignite.

So lets all pretend that it didn't happen shall we?

It IS a terrorist attack, our Mighty One made that statement at mid-day.

All you liberal wishy washies had better have a fresh think now that matters have come Home.

let's wait until the dust settles before we start blaming people - alqaeda are bad i know but we should wait until it has been confirmed - it's all too easy to assume it's them as soon as an explosion takes places

also stop using references about links with alqaeda - you either belong to them or not - i don't buy that crap about saddam and alqaeda links - it's all just hype to get people **** scared - cos officials know peopel are scared of another 9/11 -

the best thing that s***s people up is the threat alqaeda is linked

Originally posted by julz
As far as I was aware terrorists came in all colours, sexes and religions. Expel all the non-white immigrants?? aaah ok cos none of the Irish Terrorists or Admiral pub bombers have ever done anything then??? Or were we tricked into thinking they were white??

It took so long to find the Oklahoma bomber because the authorities assumed it would be a non-white foreigner, it turned out to be a white American guy/nutter.

Originally posted by kirky
ah so it was british people that did it:confused: or japenese tourists perhaps:rolleyes:

I hate to tell you this but British people can do bad things as well. Ok this attack was almost certainly carried out by so called islamic terrorists, but have you manged to work out that not islamists are terroists yet?

no body knows who did it, so lets stop blaming people here and there, the bloody terrorists are only the ones to be blamed and those could be from any race, religion ...etc

Originally posted by kirky
ah so it was british people that did it:confused: or japenese tourists perhaps:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Mo
So lets all pretend that it didn't happen shall we?

It IS a terrorist attack, our Mighty One made that statement at mid-day.

All you liberal wishy washies had better have a fresh think now that matters have come Home.

No, but lets not pretend that pandering to your biggotry would somehow have prevented this.

Originally posted by nick2
It took so long to find the Oklahoma bomber because the authorities assumed it would be a non-white foreigner, it turned out to be a white American guy/nutter.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1321244.stm

Originally posted by kirky
ah so it was british people that did it:confused: or japenese tourists perhaps:rolleyes:

Well, if it turns out be Al Queda then yes, it could well be British citizens that attacked.

If it's the IRA (looking less likely now), then YES, It could be British citizens that attacked.

If it's Combat 18 (Very unlikely), YES it could be British citizens that attacked.

If it's animal rights, then YES it could be British citizens that attacked.

Tony Blair statement from Sky News (http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1188302,00.html) website

The Prime Minister has been kept in close touch with developments and made a live televised statement from the G8 summit at Gleneagles at noon.

Mr Blair said the attacks were apparently the work of terrorists designed to coincide with the G8 and described then as "barbaric".


He said he intends to return to London to see the situation himself and would fly back to Scotland later tonight.

Mr Blair said: "Our thoughts and prayers go to the victims and their families."

He said: "It is particularly barbaric that this has happened on a day when people are meeting to try to help the problems of poverty in Africa, the long-term problems of climate change and the environment."

"It is important that those engaged in terrorism realise that our determination to defend our values and our way of life is greater than their determination to cause death and destruction to innocent people in a desire to impose extremism on the world."

The G8 summit is to continue in Mr Blair's absence, at the wish of the other world leaders.

Mr Blair continued: "Each of the countries around that table has some experience of the effects of terrorism, and all the leaders, as they will indicate a little bit later, share our complete resolution to defeat this terrorism."

Somebody asked for a transcript of Tony Blair's statement:

"I am just going to make a short statement to you on the terrible events that have happened in London earlier today, and I hope you understand that at the present time we are still trying to establish exactly what has happened, and there is a limit to what information I can give you, and I will simply try and tell you the information as best I can at the moment.

It is reasonably clear that there have been a series of terrorist attacks in London. There are obviously casualties, both people that have died and people seriously injured, and our thoughts and prayers of course are with the victims and their families.

It is my intention to leave the G8 within the next couple of hours and go down to London and get a report, face-to-face, with the police, and the emergency services and the Ministers that have been dealing with this, and then to return later this evening.

It is the will of all the leaders at the G8 however that the meeting should continue in my absence, that we should continue to discuss the issues that we were going to discuss, and reach the conclusions which we were going to reach. Each of the countries round that table have some experience of the effects of terrorism and all the leaders, as they will indicate a little bit later, share our complete resolution to defeat this terrorism.

It is particularly barbaric that this has happened on a day when people are meeting to try to help the problems of poverty in Africa, and the long term problems of climate change and the environment. Just as it is reasonably clear that this is a terrorist attack, or a series of terrorist attacks, it is also reasonably clear that it is designed and aimed to coincide with the opening of the G8. There will be time to talk later about this.

It is important however that those engaged in terrorism realise that our determination to defend our values and our way of life is greater than their determination to cause death and destruction to innocent people in a desire to impose extremism on the world. Whatever they do, it is our determination that they will never succeed in destroying what we hold dear in this country and in other civilised nations throughout the world."

From Yahoo News website

Well said Mr Blair, he's impressed me there....

sorry - i post slowly!

Originally posted by venger
No they have not, I do not agree with what has happened, but news channels are reporting that this was not intended to hurt many people, but to cripple the flow of the city.

What utter tosh! Take your head out of the sand - these groups want to kill as many people as possible as their aims are the destruction of western style democratic countries. Simple as that.

Speech from Home Secretary now

3 confirmed tube explosions now

I have just been told by my Daughter that there has been another explosion in Leicester Square, and that their London offices are being evacuated.

Originally posted by owdlad
I have just been told by my Daughter that there has been another explosion in Leicester Square, and that their London offices are being evacuated.

Jesus.

Hope she is ok,owdlad

I have been watching news most of the morning and the police are saying that there has been several explosions, one that blew a bus apart another one that was on the underground. Many are injured, around 90 at the moment but this will probably rise. Also at least 20 people have been killed which will probably also keep rising. The emergency services are on alert for further explosions as they say they cannot rule this out. They think its definate terrorist attacks on the city. The bus and tube travel in the areas affected have been suspended. Various witnesses have been interviewed on TV saying that they were on the train that felt the enormous explosion, people thought they had hit another train. The train was filled with thick black smoke and people were trying to break the windows but were told the smoke was worse in the tunnel and they had to stay put for at least half an hour. What is happening to the world lately? These terrorists are cowards!!!

Originally posted by Deavon
Well, if it turns out be Al Queda then yes, it could well be British citizens that attacked.

If it's the IRA (looking less likely now), then YES, It could be British citizens that attacked.

If it's Combat 18 (Very unlikely), YES it could be British citizens that attacked.

If it's animal rights, then YES it could be British citizens that attacked.

not jap tourists then...............

Originally posted by barny_100
What utter tosh! Take your head out of the sand - these groups want to kill as many people as possible as their aims are the destruction of western style democratic countries. Simple as that.

it doesn't actually appear as if maximum casualties was the intention, but is rather an attack on the public transport infrastructure.

My friend was meant to be going to London to watch Prodigy, he thinks it could be some sort of anti prodigy group, any ideas?

could it be coincidence the first explosion was under the hotel were the israeli pm was holding a meeting?

Originally posted by Cyclone
it doesn't actually appear as if maximum casualties was the intention, but is rather an attack on the public transport infrastructure.

If they wanted to knock out the transport infastructure,they could have done this in the middle of the night.

If they wanted to keep casualties down,why did they strike at 8.50 in the morning?

Originally posted by barny_100
What utter tosh! Take your head out of the sand - these groups want to kill as many people as possible as their aims are the destruction of western style democratic countries. Simple as that.
If their objective was to kill as many people as possible and cause a major outcry they would have placed the bombs on shopping malls and schools. These explosions are there to upset the running of the city and bring its transport system to a halt, hence the use of the tube system.

Originally posted by uncleheed
If they wanted to knock out the transport infastructure,they could have done this in the middle of the night.

If they wanted to keep casualties down,why did they strike at 8.50 in the morning?

at midnight the disruption would be minimal.

at rush hour it causes chaos.

The Home secretary,and the Shadow Home Secretary drop their political differences in speeches made to the house

Originally posted by f_g
power surge cause explosions on london tube.

its not power seirge.


you should watch channel 501 on sky.

its on constantly and they already have an idea of who was behind it!!

Originally posted by uncleheed
If they wanted to knock out the transport infastructure,they could have done this in the middle of the night.

If they wanted to keep casualties down,why did they strike at 8.50 in the morning?
There will always be casualties. You have to time these blasts to generate as much fear as possible. The transport system will be used less knowing that people have been killed and injured.

Originally posted by Cyclone
at midnight the disruption would be minimal.

at rush hour it causes chaos.

Why not post warnings then?

Originally posted by Cyclone
at midnight the disruption would be minimal.

at rush hour it causes chaos.

True,it does cause chaos,but it also has the poential to kill and injure many hundreds of people.

Because if they gae warnings, it would take out most of the "terror" in "terrorism".

MAybe it was just timed to cause maximum disruption to the transport systen,AND kill and injure as many people as possible?

Originally posted by Sony
It has been confirmed by police that al qaeda is responsible for those explosions

Charles Clarke is currently speaking in Parliament saying that we don't know who was behind is and speculation is unhelpfull - one of the few things I agree with him on!

Originally posted by uncleheed
MAybe it was just timed to cause maximum disruption to the transport systen,AND kill and injure as many people as possible?

I agree

What was the Leicester Square reference? Something else happened?

Originally posted by sugarnspice
What was the Leicester Square reference? Something else happened?

No reports on main news channels

if the intention was to cause maximum casualties there are much better targets than tube trains and buses.

would it be likely to happen in other british cities? What is the government going to do to protect us?

Originally posted by uncleheed
MAybe it was just timed to cause maximum disruption to the transport systen,AND kill and injure as many people as possible?
Possibly...but it would have been just as easy to drive a massive fertiliser based bomb into the city and cause extreme damage and fatalities. This would have been no problem for a suicide bomber.

Nick Griffin is facing charges in the Crown Court later this year for making the stark warning that militant Islamics would punish Britain for our unpopular involvement in Bush’s war to secure Iraq’s oil supplies. He specifically mentioned suicide bombers carrying out attacks on “soft targets”

Maybe there is,but by crippling the tube,and blowing up a bus,it brings many of the routes through London to a halt,thus hampering a quick response from emergency service because of the gridlock.

A previously unknown group calling itself "Secret Organisation al Qaeda in Europe" said it carried out the attacks.

Sky News

Blair and G8 leaders statement now

Can we keep the fool that is Nick Griffin out of this please. This is not the place.

All political parties will use this to their own ends...Blair will use it to introduce ID cards and other parties will use it to attack the current asylum and immigration status.

Originally posted by eguin
Nick Griffin is facing charges in the Crown Court later this year for making the stark warning that militant Islamics would punish Britain for our unpopular involvement in Bush’s war to secure Iraq’s oil supplies. He specifically mentioned suicide bombers carrying out attacks on “soft targets”

um, i don't think that those are his exact charges. Can we have this arguemnet tomorrow though today is not the right time for this

Originally posted by AJ sheffield
If their objective was to kill as many people as possible and cause a major outcry they would have placed the bombs on shopping malls and schools. These explosions are there to upset the running of the city and bring its transport system to a halt, hance the use of the tube system.

Exactly.

There is a reason this is being headlined as "Terrorist attack London Transport system".

The Madrid train bombs were detonated by mobile phone. That attack was calculated to create massive fatalities. It succeeded.

This attack has been clearly designed to cripple the capital city. Nothing in central London is moving. If the mobile phone networks have been curtailed, this will add to the paralysis.

Brian Paddick is quoted pointing out that there were three blasts on the tube between stations, giving rise to six or seven reports of 'incidents' at the stations nearest to the trains on which the explosion occurred.

The explosions may have been quite small, as any explosion contained in a concrete tunnel will be much more tightly focussed.

Judging from the very low number of fatalities so far (two confirmed, one more almost certain) the actions seems completely designed around paralyzing the city, not destroying it.

I'm in Croydon at the moment and just across from me is a great big HSBC building. There is a suspect package and now a explosion has been heard. Hope its just a controlled blast. They have evacuated one of the buildings nearby earlier. Got windows drawn in case anything goes off here. Scary.

Originally posted by AJ sheffield
If their objective was to kill as many people as possible and cause a major outcry they would have placed the bombs on shopping malls and schools. These explosions are there to upset the running of the city and bring its transport system to a halt, hance the use of the tube system.

Again do me a favour - a small bomb in the enclosed space of a train/bus is meant for maximum casualties. The fact that it was timed so that more people would be on the buses after the tube was closed due to the 1st wave of explosions merely confirms it for me. I also think you will find many knowledgable analysts saying the same thing on TV over today.

Originally posted by Phanerothyme
Exactly.
Judging from the very low number of fatalities so far (two confirmed, one more almost certain) the actions seems completely designed around paralyzing the city, not destroying it.

Paralyzing the city?? Surely they wanted to do more than that!

As an aside to the reports coming in,can I just say,after watching the events unfold for the last few hours,that the emergency services have done,and are still doing,a fantastic job.

Its obvious that the emergency procedures that they have practised and practised has clearly paid off.

One unfortnate by product of this horrendous outrage, is that I bet that there will now only be one subject on the G8 meeting now, security.