I thought last nights episode of Enterprise was very good with it's rearranged title sequence. I think some of the story lines have been rather better than the other series managed as well.
One question though as I'm feeling idle and can't be bothered at the moment to Google it, what is the Constitution class ship that has been captured, I didn't get to see the registrry fully as otherwise i could probably find it listed in the Star Trek data base, and yes I'm sure there are listings for starships somewhere on the net.
I usually look forward to Tuesday nights but next Tuesday is a MUST!!

It was excellent!

Loved it.

I think it was the USS Defiant - there's a neat tie in, I think, to the original series episode 'The Thlolian Web' where Kirk gets stuck after investigating the Defiant that is stuck in some sort of 'rift'. Kirk gets hauled back to the Enterprise and the Defiant goes in to the other place - which, I guess, is the Mirror universe.

Very cool - I think the cast must have great fun playing their evil selves!

Joe

Originally posted by JoePritchard
Very cool - I think the cast must have great fun playing their evil selves!

Apart of course for Captain 'wooden' Archer!

But yay for the first Terran empire - long may it blow up random other things!

The USS Defiant?
I'm struggling to remember the episode or rather the details. I didn't think the Defiants crew were featured and yet Archer has found the captain and at least one crew member with blaster/phaser wounds.
I can see a call coming up to some-one I know in the Star trek fan club who I'm sure will of got all the original series on tape or DVD so I can make enquiries
Roll on next Tuesday!!

I've just been googling and so have managed to find the story about the Defiant which says the crew went mad and killed one another.
Have also found a summary of last nights episode which confirms that it is the Defiant that has been captured.
I think it is very clever the way the present series links past stories in such an entertaining way.

I remember the Tholian Web episode for some reason - the idea was that the rift had a bad effect on humanoid mental processes and caused insanity on the crew of any vessel in the rift.

I believe in the original episode the Defiant's crew had gone loopy, and the Enterprise crew were having soem bad effects. To add to the problem the Enterprise was trying to get Kirk back and the Tholians were being grumpy and did their web thing.

I am scared that I'm turning in to comic book man from The Simpsons. :)

Joe

Originally posted by JoePritchard

I am scared that I'm turning in to comic book man from The Simpsons. :)

Joe

Oy...that's my job!

Anyway...yeah, this was a great episode, and was another example of how fantastic Enterprise could be. Sadly, this all came too late to save the show, and these last few episodes are all that we will have. Word of warning....don't watch the season finale...it was a tad disappointing to say the least (it was written last season when they thought they would get cancelled, and it shows as it just didn't work as well as Manny Coto's work this year).

Originally posted by JoePritchard
I am scared that I'm turning in to comic book man from The Simpsons. :)

Joe

Hopefully only in knowledge and not in size Joe!

It was a fanatstic episode. The fact they went to the effort of creating new opening credits shows that there is still a lot of mileage in Enterprise.

The Defiant was NCC-1764. Details can be found here:

http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/library/ships/article/70369.html

Originally posted by alchresearch
Hopefully only in knowledge and not in size Joe!



See some of my other posts about my girth.

I think I need to stop eating for a while, or regurgitate the Trill... :)

Joe

I'm not a fan of Enterprise, and watched tuesday's episode cos I was bored - it's the first one I've seen since near the start of the series.

I was amazed. The best piece of telly i've seen in absolutely ages. I got sucked in straight away (especially as they'd dropped the awful opening credits).

I was utterly spell bound even before they found the Defiant. The baddie crew was done really well and was a welcome departure from the tedious inter-galactic do-gooder stuff that's made recent Star Trek a bit dull. It was nicely acted too - a bit tongue-in-cheek and maybe a touch camp, but the torture, the killing, the radiation poisoning etc gave it a proper menacing air.

When the Defiant turned up and I remembered where I'd heard of the Tholians before, I was in closet-Trekkie heaven. Unfortunately I'm out of the country next week so I'll miss the second part :(

Sad to hear that the series finale isn't up to the same standards - I was really looking forward to it after Tuesday's stonker. It'd be nice to see a bit more Enterprise set in the baddie-crew alternate universe

Wasn't the Defiant originally a DS9 ship though? Or is the DS9 one an updated version of the Defiant in Enterprise?

Sorry if I sound a bit daft, I haven't watched Enterprise for like aaaaaaaages.

it's been a long time since I beamed myself here, Enterprise wasn't my fave st show but was the only one we had!

Originally posted by Rich
Wasn't the Defiant originally a DS9 ship though? Or is the DS9 one an updated version of the Defiant in Enterprise?

Sorry if I sound a bit daft, I haven't watched Enterprise for like aaaaaaaages.

There have been at least three ships, i think, bearing the name. The Constitution class one in Enterprise and TOS, and I think there were two separate Defiants in DS9 after they broke one. :)

Joe

I was slightly disappointed by the second part as for me it went off the boil somewhat. I didn't like the Gorn as it didn't look much like the one that Kirk had to fight and to say they were dealing with a ship 100 years in advance of their technology they managed to figure it out rather to easily. I think though the thing that bugged me most was the fact that when Kirk went to the mirror universe he was on a ship that was identical to the Defiant which by his time would of been in the hands of the empire for a 100 years so wouldn't their technology of leap-frogged forward [if you know what I mean]
In the hidden encyclopedia, [something I came across amongst the Star Trek web sites] the Defiant is discovered in the time of The Next Generation and I think it is a real shame that the series writers could not of taken this on board and given a much better ending or made it a three parter.