Is this the big one? News sites today are full of this story. 81 people dead, 1500 suspected cases across US and Mexico. An air steward in isolation in London.

The H1N1 strain is the same as the Spanish flu that killed 20 million 90 years ago. It tends to affect young adults rather than the very young and very old.

The government, councils and NHS services have emergency plans for just such a pandemic. Let's hope they aren't needed.

:suspect:Well, my sis in law came back from Mexico a week ago. Stupid gal as she didnt have any shots (not sure that would have protected against this) but she reckons she asked the docs and they said none required but I think she actually needed 3 or 4.:confused:

She came back with a virus and flu like symptoms but she is back to normal now - phoned her when the story broke just to make sure. Told her prob best to pop to docs to get checked out tho :help:

Been following this one closely. Check the comments on BBC news.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/8018428.stm

Whether or not the below comment is true or not but if it is then its actually rather worrying.

I work as a resident doctor in one of the biggest hospitals in Mexico City and sadly, the situation is far from "under control". As a doctor, I realise that the media does not report the truth. Authorities distributed vaccines among all the medical personnel with no results, because two of my partners who worked in this hospital (interns) were killed by this new virus in less than six days even though they were vaccinated as all of us were. The official number of deaths is 20, nevertheless, the true number of victims are more than 200. I understand that we must avoid to panic, but telling the truth it might be better now to prevent and avoid more deaths.
Yeny Gregorio Dávila, Mexico City

I wasn't bothered about bird flu et al, but I am more nervous about this potential pandemic.

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and the World Health Organization are concerned that this outbreak may become a pandemic, because:

New strain
The virus is a new strain of influenza, from which human populations have not been vaccinated or naturally immunised.


Human transmission
The virus appears to infect by human-to-human transmission. Investigations of infected patients indicate no direct contact with swine, such as at a farm or agricultural fair. In contrast, for example, disease transmission in the last severe human outbreak of influenza, the bird flu that peaked in 2006, was determined to be almost entirely from direct contact between humans and birds.


Virulence
The virus has produced severe disease in Mexico, and some deaths. Furthermore, in Mexico (but not in the United States) the illness has primarily struck young, healthy adults, much like the deadly Spanish Flu of 1918. Most other influenza strains produce the worst symptoms in young children, elderly adults, and others with weaker immune systems.


Geography
The virus has been detected in multiple regions within Mexico and multiple areas in the United States.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDBz_naagJE

Bad news for pig farmers?

Sales of bacon might go down a bit with this in the news.

You'd think they might want to up quarantine levels for swine over here to be on the safe side if it is doing its rounds. You don't want somebody bringing that particular strain back from Mexico etc.

Too late to try and stop it spreading, - victims will have had the infection, and the potential to pass it on to others, for several days before symptoms appear.

Shouldn't take more than a fortnight or so to know if we have a pandemic to deal with.

:suspect:Well, my sis in law came back from Mexico a week ago. Stupid gal as she didnt have any shots (not sure that would have protected against this) but she reckons she asked the docs and they said none required but I think she actually needed 3 or 4.:confused:

She came back with a virus and flu like symptoms but she is back to normal now - phoned her when the story broke just to make sure. Told her prob best to pop to docs to get checked out tho :help:

so what your saying is your sister in law has brought Armageddon to the UK???


Thanks:thumbsup:

I'm quite scared about this, as I have someone visiting from America in May, then I'm going to America myself in June. I don't want these trips to be messed up, or for any virus transferral occurred!

Do you think I can get the vaccine before I go to America to be on the safe side?

Wednesdayites, cant just any of them lol. (lighter note) lol

It's all very worrying isn't it? Difficult to contain. Have the FO put Mexico off limits for tourists??

Problem with flu, is that when you have the symptoms, it's too late and you have infected loads of other people.

Wonder what work will say when i tell them i may be off for along time as i seem to suffer alot from cold/flu.

Wednesdayites, cant just any of them lol. (lighter note) lol
what? huh?

what? huh?

pigs-swine...............:rolleyes:lol never mind...whhooooosh!

What about Egypt, will it be there? I'm going at the beginning of July and a bit worried!

pigs-swine...............:rolleyes:lol never mind...whhooooosh!

If the whoooosh is intended to suggest it went over my head, it didn't. I get the football-related porcine reference, but the sentence still makes no sense at all :confused:

What about Egypt, will it be there? I'm going at the beginning of July and a bit worried!

I would suggest that where you go becomes less important with time.
The act of travelling in an aeroplane with a carrier probably offers the greatest risk of transmission.

What about Egypt, will it be there? I'm going at the beginning of July and a bit worried!

Camel-flu might be a problem, but I doubt there are many pigs in Egypt :hihi:

If the whoooosh is intended to suggest it went over my head, it didn't. I get the football-related porcine reference, but the sentence still makes no sense at all :confused:

I think he was trying to point out that he is a person with a very low IQ.
I hope that helps.

The WHO (World Health Organisation) is to decide tomorrow whether to upgrade the risk category from 4 to 3. That will decide government strategies on how to deal with it.
Incidentally Britain and France are the top countries in terms of their preparedness to deal with an outbreak.
I really don't think people should wory unduly, it's far too soon to panic. Not that panicking would be of the slightest help to anybody.

100 people have died from swine flu
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8019882.stm

100 people have died from swine flu
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8019882.stm

Another 1500 have recovered from it.

I think he was trying to point out that he is a person with a very low IQ.
I hope that helps.

Bitter :hihi: Well tickle me pink!

My friend just dared me to cuddle a pig!!:o

I've got flu type symptoms :suspect:

what exactly has caused it?

what exactly has caused it?

Wednesdayites feeling 'pig sick' :hihi::hihi::hihi:

Wednesdayites feeling 'pig sick' :hihi::hihi::hihi:

Ha ha, no seriously what has caused it?

Swine influenza virus (referred to as SIV) refers to influenza cases that are caused by Orthomyxoviruses endemic to pig populations. SIV strains isolated to date have been classified either as Influenzavirus C or one of the various subtypes of the genus Influenzavirus A.[1]

Swine flu infects people every year and is found typically in people who have been in contact with pigs, although there have been cases of person-to-person transmission.[2] Symptoms include fever, disorientation, stiffness of the joints, vomiting, and loss of consciousness ending in death.[3] Swine influenza is known to be caused by influenza A subtypes H1N1,[4] H1N2,[4] H3N1,[5] H3N2,[4] and H2N3.[6]

In swine, three influenza A virus subtypes (H1N1, H3N2, and H1N2) are circulating throughout the world. In the United States, the H1N1 subtype was exclusively prevalent among swine populations before 1998; however, since late August 1998, H3N2 subtypes have been isolated from pigs. As of 2004, H3N2 virus isolates in US swine and turkey stocks were triple reassortants, containing genes from human (HA, NA, and PB1), swine (NS, NP, and M), and avian (PB2 and PA) lineages.[7

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swine_Flu

Swine influenza virus (referred to as SIV) refers to influenza cases that are caused by Orthomyxoviruses endemic to pig populations. SIV strains isolated to date have been classified either as Influenzavirus C or one of the various subtypes of the genus Influenzavirus A.[1]

Swine flu infects people every year and is found typically in people who have been in contact with pigs, although there have been cases of person-to-person transmission.[2] Symptoms include fever, disorientation, stiffness of the joints, vomiting, and loss of consciousness ending in death.[3] Swine influenza is known to be caused by influenza A subtypes H1N1,[4] H1N2,[4] H3N1,[5] H3N2,[4] and H2N3.[6]

In swine, three influenza A virus subtypes (H1N1, H3N2, and H1N2) are circulating throughout the world. In the United States, the H1N1 subtype was exclusively prevalent among swine populations before 1998; however, since late August 1998, H3N2 subtypes have been isolated from pigs. As of 2004, H3N2 virus isolates in US swine and turkey stocks were triple reassortants, containing genes from human (HA, NA, and PB1), swine (NS, NP, and M), and avian (PB2 and PA) lineages.[7

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swine_Flu


thanks, a bit technical but thanks all the same :)

According to the BBC lunchtime news, its landed in Europe. Perhaps this may be an excuse to close our borders and appease the xenophobes who inhabit this forum.

I've got flu type symptoms :suspect:

You SWINE!!! :hihi:

I've got flu type symptoms :suspect:

Too late for you then. Can I have "bagsie" on your computer?

Britain has 30 million vaccines ready that will combat this strain. Don't worry, be happy. (Heard it on radio 4).

Britain has 30 million vaccines ready that will combat this strain. Don't worry, be happy. (Heard it on radio 4).

GREAT!
So the other 30million die.

Does this mean that the other 30 million of us will die ?

Does this mean that the other 30 million of us will die ?

The death is painfully slow..Your skin turns pink and you grow trotters and grunt a lot.

Actually one guy in the hospital had grown a pigs ear.
After surgery to correct it the doctor asked him if his hearing was ok.
The guy said,"Yes it's fine,just a bit of crackling that's all"

100 people have died from swine flu
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8019882.stm

And a contradiction from the same site on another page
"Of the 103 deaths in Mexico, only 20 are so far confirmed to have been caused by the new virus."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8020676.stm

Maybe start rooting round the garden looking tasty morsels to chomp on ?
Seriously though , is this just media hype or should we really be worried ?

Mass hysteria!

The pigs will get better and join the flu-less chickens and the not mad cows
down on the farm.

Maybe start rooting round the garden looking tasty morsels to chomp on ?
Seriously though , is this just media hype or should we really be worried ?

Well the fiqures are fact but its all Media hype like everything else.

Maybe start rooting round the garden looking tasty morsels to chomp on ?
Seriously though , is this just media hype or should we really be worried ?
I'd make a bet on it being media hype :thumbsup:

The death is painfully slow..Your skin turns pink and you grow trotters and grunt a lot.



Its definitely here then. :D

According to the BBC lunchtime news, its landed in Europe. Perhaps this may be an excuse to close our borders and appease the xenophobes who inhabit this forum.

Numpty :rolleyes:

I had bird `flu a couple of years ago, dont want that again, its a killer

Maybe start rooting round the garden looking tasty morsels to chomp on ?
Seriously though , is this just media hype or should we really be worried ?

From my simple minded understanding.

Yes because its infectious human to human
Yes because it's already spread across continents.
No because most people seem to recover (so far)
No because it responds to Tamiflu

Next few days will give us a better picture.

Found this story

Britons were urged to postpone non-essential travel to the United States or Mexico as senior officials held emergency talks over the deadly outbreak of swine flu.

The European Union's health commissioner Andorra Vassiliou met EU foreign ministers on the subject and advised people to reassess their travel plans.

"They should avoid travelling to Mexico or the United States of America unless it is very urgent for them," she said.

The comments came as officials in Spain confirmed Europe's first case of swine flu. Spain's health minister Trinidad Jimenez said the confirmed case involved a man who had recently been in Mexico and said he was responding well to treatment and was not in a serious condition.

There have been no confirmed cases in the UK so far, but two people remain in hospital in Scotland where they are expected to learn the results of tests later today after suffering "flu-like symptoms". Scotland's Health Secretary Nicola Sturgeon said their condition gave no cause for concern.

Earlier, a British businessman who had been told to stay away from other people after he also returned from Mexico with flu-like symptoms was given the all-clear. Chris Clarke, from Stanwick, Northamptonshire, said it was "very good news".

Under the civil contingencies committee system - known as Cobra - cross-departmental representatives, including senior officials but no ministers, met to plan how to deal with any outbreak of the H1N1 strain of the virus.

Public health experts from all EU countries were also summoned to Brussels for urgent talks on the swine flu outbreak after more than 100 people were killed by the virus in Mexico.

The meeting is the first in a series being convened by the current Czech EU presidency in the run-up to an emergency meeting of EU health ministers, probably on Thursday.

At Gatwick airport in west Sussex, Britons arriving back from Mexico were questioned by a doctor on board about possible flu symptoms before leaving the aircraft

The recent advisory by the EU to avoid travel to the US is a load of hysterical BS.

There have only been 20 reported cases of th swine flu, all of them mild across the whole country.

The potential loss of millions of tourists and visitors from the EU will not help the struggling American economy and if the American economy suffers a significant set back to it' s recovery at this critical time then the EU"s economy will take even longer to get back on it's feet.

Besides, the swine flu has already reached France. Is a travel boycott of France next?

Its definitely here then. :D

The pigs trotters and grunting sounds have been around on Wall Street for quite a long time already :hihi:

Two confirmed cases in Scotland - people recently returned from Mexico.

What the media are keeping quiet about is that these two will have probably infected others over several days before their symptoms were obvious.

Its simple really......dont panic but be vigilant...... keep checking reports, and if it does start to head to these parts, dont do any non important long distance journeys.

People panicking and stocking up on food etc does not help anyone. I expect all hospitals in sheffield will be taking pre cautions as they all have in place a major alert policy that can deal with all types of emergencys, i believe its called MAJAX.

At the time of writing I'm not too worried. Although its may be too early to make such an assessment 149 deaths against 1600 ill reported in Mexico works out to be just under a 10% mortality rate which is nothing like the 60% mortality rate of H5N1 bird influenza. Also of the cases reported in Europe all seem to be responding well to treatment.

The World Health Organisation have just upped the ante...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/27/swine-flu-race-to-contain-outbreak

A couple of little gems in that report-

"In Israel, where there is one suspected case, the deputy health minister, Yakov Litzman, said the disease will not be known as swine flu because religious Jews do not eat pork. "We will call it Mexico flu. We won't call it swine flu," he said.

Russia and China have barred pork imports from the US and Mexico, even though the WHO says there is no danger of infection from contact with meat."

:hihi:

The World Health Organisation have just upped the ante...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/27/swine-flu-race-to-contain-outbreak

A couple of little gems in that report-

"In Israel, where there is one suspected case, the deputy health minister, Yakov Litzman, said the disease will not be known as swine flu because religious Jews do not eat pork. "We will call it Mexico flu. We won't call it swine flu," he said.

Russia and China have barred pork imports from the US and Mexico, even though the WHO says there is no danger of infection from contact with meat."

:hihi:Damnit i was drinking when i read that and you made me dribble

I had bird `flu a couple of years ago, dont want that again, its a killer

So you're dead then? Are you a ghost?

talk sport news said 26 million in mexic city 200 dead but no dead in austrailia america france or uk the w h o is waiting for a week to see if it dies out,if not they will go ahead with mass imunisation

The recent advisory by the EU to avoid travel to the US is a load of hysterical BS.

There have only been 20 reported cases of th swine flu, all of them mild across the whole country.

The potential loss of millions of tourists and visitors from the EU will not help the struggling American economy and if the American economy suffers a significant set back to it' s recovery at this critical time then the EU"s economy will take even longer to get back on it's feet.

Besides, the swine flu has already reached France. Is a travel boycott of France next?Yes only 20 cases today, then 40 tomorrow, then 80, 160, 320, 640, 1280... Or perhaps it will be 20, 400, 160000. It just depends...
Perhaps we'll be lucky and find that, unlike the many unfortunate Mexicans, we have already been exposed to something similar and have adequate immunity. Perhaps it will peter out. Of the 2000 cases reported to have been hospitalised so far in Mexico, 150 are dead already, which makes it look like a kill rate of at least 1 in 13, for those who get as far as the hospital. Not good.

Iv just heard on the radio that Novovac ,who make the flu vaccines,shares fell by about 85% because of the credit crunch,suddenly their shares are on a upward trend...one for the conspiracy theorists?

On the subject of immunity it's been suggested that people who were exposed to the 1957 flu virus will be less susceptible to infection from the current one.

And that the 20-40 age group are being struck down by their own immune system's response to the virus rather than the virus itself - not that is much comfort to the afflicted of course.

my daughters fella works on a pig farm, should i be worried???????:help:

my daughters fella works on a pig farm, should i be worried???????:help:

No but the pigs should.

soo wats happening any1 with any news

If my reasearch is correct its intersting given all the press coverage:

The total deaths from flu in the US on a typical day is around 54.

Total who have so far died from swine flu in the US ummm that would be zero!

Does that really warrent all the scare storys?

If my reasearch is correct its intersting given all the press coverage:

The total deaths from flu in the US on a typical day is around 54.

Total who have so far died from swine flu in the US ummm that would be zero!

Does that really warrent all the scare storys?

Thousands a year die as a result of flu in this country as well, but it's the fact that this is the first time humans have caught this strain which is causing the concern. There are no confirmed deaths at all outside Mexico.

I assume Mexicans are dying because it had already spread before anyone was aware of it.

Much of the emergency planning is about coping with lots of people being ill at the same time rather than people actually dying.

If you were going on holiday to mexico forget it
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8021916.stm

Just watching the coverage on Sky. What a load of scaremongering tosh. They really love this sort of thing. Showing photos of the Scottish couple as if they were dead! (In fact they are getting better)

Anything to distract us from the state of the country today ...

SOUTH YORKSHIRE’S NHS WELL PREPARED FOR MEXICAN FLU

South Yorkshire is well prepared for any cases of Mexican flu – that’s the message from the region’s NHS and Health Protection Agency.

Dr Jeremy Wight, director of public health at NHS Sheffield, which leads on co-ordinated NHS responses for South Yorkshire in situations like this, said: “We know people are returning to the region from trips to Mexico and we’re closely monitoring the situation with frontline NHS staff. They are well briefed and ready to treat anyone who has flu like symptoms.

“There are currently no confirmed cases of Mexican flu in South Yorkshire though if there were, the region’s NHS has been planning for some time and is well prepared.

“There are also plenty of antiviral stocks in the region and there is evidence that the drug is effective in the treatment of this strain of flu.

“Anyone who has recently travelled to Mexico and is experiencing flu like illness should stay at home and telephone their GP or NHS Direct for medical advice. It’s important that people monitor their health closely for seven days after their visit.”

The HPA is also suggesting people follow standard respiratory and hand hygiene and ensure that:

• You avoid contact with other people as much as possible
• You cover your nose and mouth when coughing or sneezing, using a tissue when possible. Dispose of dirty tissues promptly and carefully.
• Maintain good basic hygiene, for example washing hands frequently with soap and water to reduce the spread of the virus from your hands to face or to other people.
• Clean hard surfaces (eg door handles) frequently using a normal cleaning product.
• Make sure your children follow this advice.

I'm really craving pork now. I'm going to have to have some for my tea.

As for this Swine Flu, I'm not scared.

I'm glad I don't have any holidays overseas booked though, everytime I go on an aeroplane, the air pressure does something to sinuses which means I have flu like symptoms during the entire flight, I daren't think about going on a plane now incase they bung me into Quarantine thinking i've got it!

this is the big one maybe the end of us,my miss piggy jokes are finished wheres my face mask I need some cigs and a J&D

It says on the BBC website that anyone contracting it outside of Mexico have had slightly unwell feelings but have made a full recovery.

I'm more scared of H5N1 avian influenza mutating into a form that can pass from human to human.

What I really want to know is...


Are the rumours true? Is it worse than....MAN FLU???:o:o:o

What I really want to know is...


Are the rumours true? Is it worse than....MAN FLU???:o:o:o

Oh it's much worse than manflu, I've had swine flu for nearly a weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek now ;)

I understand that the Deputy Health Minister in Israel has branded the term Swine Flu as offensive to both Jewish and Muslim's because of its sensitivities over pork.

He is demanding that it now be called Mexican Influenza.

Whatever Next ?

I understand that the Deputy Health Minister in Israel has branded the term Swine Flu as offensive ........

You couldn't make it up!

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ieHZRubAS3lyjn2GBiCPkXkHrXwwD97QROAG0

I understand that the Deputy Health Minister in Israel has branded the term Swine Flu as offensive to both Jewish and Muslim's because of its sensitivities over pork.

He is demanding that it now be called Mexican Influenza.

Whatever Next ?

Funnily enough, I was waiting for such a denouncement. How predictable and how pathetic. I guess bird flu must be ok then as according to religious text, it's ok to eat poultry?

I understand that the Deputy Health Minister in Israel has branded the term Swine Flu as offensive to both Jewish and Muslim's because of its sensitivities over pork.

He is demanding that it now be called Mexican Influenza.

Whatever Next ?

Well the mexicans would be offended if we called it mexican flu, so meh, just call it
Muslim flu ?

I don't to worry any one but Mr.Brown says Britain is one of the most prepared countries to be able to deal with this.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8021916.stm
Haven't we heard this before just recently?

The world is due a flu pandemic (historically, there's a predictable cycle). We shouldn't do too badly, the 'flu season is nearly over in the northern hemisphere, but perhaps don't holiday in the southern hemisphere.

Oh it's much worse than manflu, I've had swine flu for nearly a weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek now ;)


You haven't come out in rashers have you? :suspect:

I'm quite scared about this, as I have someone visiting from America in May, then I'm going to America myself in June. I don't want these trips to be messed up, or for any virus transferral occurred!

Do you think I can get the vaccine before I go to America to be on the safe side?There have been a few cases in Connecticut, none of them deadly serious, and we're pretty quick here to get out the vaccines in time. There's no panic so far. Mexico might be on the same continent we are, but its a whole different place. Ask anybody who ever suffered from Montezuma's revenge.:)

I'm going to Ireland next week. I believe they have a few pigs there. Then I'm off to Norway a week later. Is there such a thing as fish flu? Not a lot of pigs in Israel, maybe I'll go there.

Like someone said before, lots of people die from normal flu, not many so far with this one?
Also, Mexico are a developing country with little medical supplies, maybe this is why they are dying and people who have contracted the flu outside of mexico arent ?

Gosh this is scaring me now :(

yes I agree I think the over reaction is just about bringing awareness to this flu and getting people to wear the face mask and stop there travel one doctor was saying halve a milllion people die of the normal flu around the world every year so this one no biggie if your health is bad or a person is old any flu can take them.

this is a manufactured virus, its actually called AVIAN SWINE FLU, this is because its known as a mutagen containing 3 types of flu which normally would never meet, THIS IS THE FIRST IN A WAVE OF PANDEMICS

www.infowars.com

listen to / download the alex jones show

alex jones may save your life if you listen to the podcast, he has doctors on the show and people calling in live from santiago & mexico city, HE TELLS YOU WHAT YOU MAY NEED TO INGEST TO COUNTERACT THE EFFECTS OF THE AVIAN SWINE FLU

You haven't come out in rashers have you? :suspect:


No, just oldspots ;)

so you are saying this could become pandemic should I build a bio bunker.
Manufactured by who,human tampering perhaps.
wheres my face mask! don't panic mister mannering (sorry dads army memories)

Are people joking about the being around pig/pork products thing?

Are people joking about the being around pig/pork products thing?
It's a good job it's not avian flu... or you might have to keep your head down ;)

my next door neighbor has just come back from mexico :O

my next door neighbor has just come back from mexico :O

My niece and her kids are due to go 7th May..,Not looking good at the moment.

First death outside Mexico reported. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8024611.stm)

Confirmed case in Birmingham and London.

I've just called the swine flu hotline...

Couldn't hear too much though...





too much crackling.

Gosh this is scaring me now :(

Your not reading the threads, and all the news reports and thinking objectively about this at all if it's scaring you!

Heard on the news a bit ago that there's several suspected cases here in South Yorkshire..

Its getting everywhere now..
Who said pigs couldn't bloody fly ??.. :hihi:

Your not reading the threads, and all the news reports and thinking objectively about this at all if it's scaring you!

Yes iam but im a worrier at the best of times, and seem to get most bugs and stuff that goes round

Yes iam but im a worrier at the best of times, and seem to get most bugs and stuff that goes round

I worry too but the way the media is you have to try not to or go round the bend. The cow disease thing freaked me out and I think I learned from that.

Suspected is alot different to confirmed. Especially when the confirmed deaths in Mexico has gone down to 7 from 20 when they retested the dead.

I don't know why people are panicking, especially when symptoms are only "mild". Normal flu sounds worse!

Look what happens to those who survive!!!!
http://shipschronometer.com/sean/wierd.jpg (http://shipschronometer.com/sean/wierd.jpg)

:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o

Look what happens to those who survive!!!!
http://shipschronometer.com/sean/wierd.jpg (http://shipschronometer.com/sean/wierd.jpg)

:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o

It's good to see Sheffield W*dnesday bringing on the youngsters!

the WHO has now raised it to a phase 5

They're killing all the pigs in Egypt...all 400,000 of them :o

http://af.reuters.com/article/topNews/idAFJOE53S0F520090429?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&sp=true

They're killing all the pigs in Egypt...all 400,000 of them :o

http://af.reuters.com/article/topNews/idAFJOE53S0F520090429?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&sp=true

That's a bit messed up?

I suppose even their scholars are blinded by religion and pay no attention to science.

Over there the majority see pigs as dirty and as such a cull is more easily implemented.

Explosive info on the swine flu.. PLEASE LISTEN!!

This is the scariest thing i have heard yet!!

http://www.liveleak.com/mp.swf?config=http://www.liveleak.com/flash_config.php?token=150_1240786723

This happend BEFORE THE OUTBREAK IN MEXICO and is quite disturbing!

Explosive info on the swine flu.. PLEASE LISTEN!!

This is the scariest thing i have heard yet!!

http://www.liveleak.com/mp.swf?config=http://www.liveleak.com/flash_config.php?token=150_1240786723

This happend BEFORE THE OUTBREAK IN MEXICO and is quite disturbing!

aren't you getting a little bit ahead of yourself? You don't know that it had anything to do with swine flu. It's an interesting coincidence right now, that's all, but you're right about the possible implications: very scary.

I just woke up this morning covered in rashers from head to toe!!!

What should I do?

That's a bit messed up?

I suppose even their scholars are blinded by religion and pay no attention to science.

Over there the majority see pigs as dirty and as such a cull is more easily implemented.

Govt. orders - nothing to do with the Muslim clerics.

It isn't that long ago that they killed all the chickens in Egypt following several cases of Bird Flu. If there is ever a Sheep Flu Egypt will be largest Vegan nation on earth :hihi:

I just woke up this morning covered in rashers from head to toe!!!

What should I do?

Pop yourself in the oven and cook yourself for about 25mins per Lb.... we'll be round later with bread and cranberry sauce :D

Pop yourself in the oven and cook yourself for about 25mins per Lb.... we'll be round later with bread and cranberry sauce :D
No no no, it's got to be apple sauce!

No no no, it's got to be apple sauce!

If he's covered in rashers then he's obviously a turkey... oh god he's got bird flu aswell!!:o:o

I rang the Pandenic Helpline, but all I got was crackling!

I went to the doctors convinced I had swine flu in my eye. Turns out it was just a sty.

Seriously though, how do you tell the difference between flu and swine flu? As since sunday i've been full of cold/mild flu and nobody will come near me because they're paranoid :(

Seriously though, how do you tell the difference between flu and swine flu? As since sunday i've been full of cold/mild flu and nobody will come near me because they're paranoid :(

You can't. Ring the doctors! Even if it is Swine flue it will only knock you as much as the normal stuff and will probably pass without treatment, never mind the dose of anti-virals they will give you anyway. You'll also have your name in the news cos not many people have it yet. Thats about the long and short of it.

Seriously though, how do you tell the difference between flu and swine flu? As since sunday i've been full of cold/mild flu and nobody will come near me because they're paranoid :(

Flu symptoms include aching, headaches, fever, drowsiness, lethargy and can incorporate cold symptoms too... but not always. My guess is you have a cold.

Suspected is alot different to confirmed. Especially when the confirmed deaths in Mexico has gone down to 7 from 20 when they retested the dead.

I don't know why people are panicking, especially when symptoms are only "mild". Normal flu sounds worse!

I'm not sure I follow. Do you mean that when they retested the dead in turned out 13 of them were pretending and weren't actually dead at all?

I'm going to Ireland next week. I believe they have a few pigs there. Then I'm off to Norway a week later. Is there such a thing as fish flu? Not a lot of pigs in Israel, maybe I'll go there.

Unless the pigs have been spending time with their piggy cousins in Mexico I don't think you need to worry about them. I might worry about the PEOPLE you come into contact with though.

It's called swine flu because it originated in pigs - it has now mutated and spread to humans. You are not going to catch it from a pig. Pigs don't tend to travel to see other pigs that often. So unless you're going to go and visit the specific pigs in Mexico that are responsible, i think you're a little more likely to catch it from another human being.

Look what happens to those who survive!!!!
http://shipschronometer.com/sean/wierd.jpg (http://shipschronometer.com/sean/wierd.jpg)

:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o

She should get a minnie skirt and head down West Street on a Saturday night. She'll blend in just fine.

You can't. Ring the doctors! Even if it is Swine flue it will only knock you as much as the normal stuff and will probably pass without treatment, never mind the dose of anti-virals they will give you anyway. You'll also have your name in the news cos not many people have it yet. Thats about the long and short of it.

Flu symptoms include aching, headaches, fever, drowsiness, lethargy and can incorporate cold symptoms too... but not always. My guess is you have a cold.

I agree I just have a cold - I've not been to Mexico, Not spoken to anyone who has just got back from Mexico, nor spoken to any Mexicans, and my fella had it last week, (granted a bit milder) and he has recovered, so i'm not too concerned at all I just don't like being avoided! (Although getting my name in the papers could be quite cool.. but maybe for all the wrong reasons??)

I agree I just have a cold - I've not been to Mexico, Not spoken to anyone who has just got back from Mexico, nor spoken to any Mexicans, and my fella had it last week, (granted a bit milder) and he has recovered, so i'm not too concerned at all I just don't like being avoided! (Although getting my name in the papers could be quite cool.. but maybe for all the wrong reasons??)

Tell them to grow up and stop being prats! if it was swine flu you'd have spread it before the symptoms presented so they'd all have it anyway:D

Tell them to grow up and stop being prats! if it was swine flu you'd have spread it before the symptoms presented so they'd all have it anyway:D

:hihi::hihi: And to be honest they would deserve it :D

:hihi::hihi: And to be honest they would deserve it :D

Just run up to them, sneeze full blast in their face then tell them your feeling all hot and cold and dizzy. They'll soil themselves!! :hihi:

I'm not sure I follow. Do you mean that when they retested the dead in turned out 13 of them were pretending and weren't actually dead at all?

Ooops! I meant the number of confirmed deaths from Pig Cold went from 20 to 7, so the other 13 are still dead, but died of something other than Pig Cold

Just run up to them, sneeze full blast in their face then tell them your feeling all hot and cold and dizzy. They'll soil themselves!! :hihi:

Ill google some pictures of Mexico, print them off and show them all my "holiday snaps" shortly before the sneeze methinks.. I coughed on a bus yesterday and i'm sure I nearly got thrown off!!

I'm not sure I follow. Do you mean that when they retested the dead in turned out 13 of them were pretending and weren't actually dead at all?

You don't know how right you are. Whenever something like this happens it is painfully obvious what is going on. There is no swine or bird flu, no mad cow disease or CJD either. These are clearly outbreaks of zombies that the respective governments are trying to stop before they spread to the general population. Open your eyes people.

Why did the mexican sneeze on his wife...........?


Tequila

First human to human transfer in UK has been confirmed.

By the way, how effective do you think the drugs are (e.g. Tamiflu)?

25% better than a placebo according to my paper this morning....oo er...I was under the impression that they would definitely cure sufferers. They are better at prevention than cure, apparently.

Also comforting to know that the flu helpline which will prescribe these anti flu meds will be ready.....in the autumn....:|

You don't know how right you are. Whenever something like this happens it is painfully obvious what is going on. There is no swine or bird flu, no mad cow disease or CJD either. These are clearly outbreaks of zombies that the respective governments are trying to stop before they spread to the general population. Open your eyes people.

This may be true. This is exactly what happened in the films 28 Days Later, 28 Weeks Later, Diary of the Dead, Dead Set, Rec and the Zombie Diaries, and similar to what happened in I Am Legend, Quarantine, Resident Evil 1, 2, 3 and 4, Blade 1, 2 and 3 and Underworld 1, 2 and 3. Where would they all get their ideas from?!

Why did the mexican sneeze on his wife...........?


Tequila

Hehe.... :)

This may be true. This is exactly what happened in the films 28 Days Later, 28 Weeks Later, Diary of the Dead, Dead Set, Rec and the Zombie Diaries, and similar to what happened in I Am Legend, Quarantine, Resident Evil 1, 2, 3 and 4, Blade 1, 2 and 3 and Underworld 1, 2 and 3. Where would they all get their ideas from?!

Time to buy this. (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Zombie-Survival-Guide-Complete-Protection/dp/1400049628/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1241259063&sr=8-2)

Oh I have my plan. I plan to be on the other side. Braaainsss

I posted early on in this thread as my sis in law had just come back from Mexico...well...she was in quarantine for 4 days last week. ALthough she had antibiotics she continued with flu symptoms and the health authorities phoned her at work and told her to go home immediately under some act - half hr later a van pulled up - the doc got out, put "overalls" on, goggles, gloves, sheets over feet, mask & apron - walked in took a swab - told her NOT to leave the house or have face to face contact until results came back.

She has just been told she hasnt got swine flu...still - at the mo Im glad I live over 100 miles away:hihi: so thats a bit of good news for the weekend.

She wasnt happy when I asked her if she was coming out in rashers :hihi:

Latest news reports appear to be down playing the seriousness of the outbreak.

Latest news reports appear to be down playing the seriousness of the outbreak.


Radio 4 I think...Was mentioned that the strain is less effective, and common cold/flu is more dangerous.

:rolleyes:What a surprise

To pass the time while in quarantine:

http://www.miniclip.com/games/stop-swine-flu/en/

We have nothing to worry about and the symtons are easy to spot

1) Black Bile vomiting for 4 days + Chronic Diarhear (so you have to decide which end goes over the toilet)

2) Shocking Blisters

3) An urge to gouge your own eyes out.

4) and then the symtons start to get nasty, before an agonising death

So all in all, nothing to worry about.

"Normal" flu puts you flat on your back for a week or so, and can quite possibly kill you if you are elderly and infirm.

So what is it with all these folks being in quarantine and being interviewed somewhat dramatically by phone whilst on the other side of a window? Some of 'em look like they've just got back from the local shops or the pub...I've looked rougher when I've got a bog-standard cold.

And they are now somewhat sheepishly saying that a goodly number of those deaths that were originally attributed to Swine flu are now probably other medical conditions. I think that there is a little calming down required...:rolleyes:

And they are now somewhat sheepishly saying that a goodly number of those deaths that were originally attributed to Swine flu are now probably other medical conditions. I think that there is a little calming down required...:rolleyes:


I think the 'media' are finding it hard to hide their disappointment that nobody in UK has yet died from this new strain of flu :hihi:

I bet the poor pig farmers have been sweating on some lunatic in the press demanding all the pigs are slaughtered.

Personally I'm glad they're taking it seriously. This might not be the strain to worry about yet, but it does have many of the characteristics of a potentially very dangerous disease.

Also, the 1918 flu first appeared in summer but reappeared as a pandemic in Autumn. Admittedly, if this flu has a low mortality rate, that's somewhat reassuring.

I'd be more worried by one that has a high mortality rate and only needs to evolve human-human transmission than one with transmission and a low mortality rate, as I believe there is less direct pressure to evolve in a more fatal direction.

Not going to knock governments for erring on the side of caution, in any case.

I hope it wipes us all out coz i'm fed up of everyone having an orgasm over it.
Get a grip u sad b##ards.

To pass the time while in quarantine:

http://www.miniclip.com/games/stop-swine-flu/en/

4160

Anyone beat that?

:)

Also, the 1918 flu first appeared in summer but reappeared as a pandemic in Autumn. Admittedly, if this flu has a low mortality rate, that's somewhat reassuring.

I'd be more worried by one that has a high mortality rate and only needs to evolve human-human transmission than one with transmission and a low mortality rate, as I believe there is less direct pressure to evolve in a more fatal direction.

Not going to knock governments for erring on the side of caution, in any case.

I've read this may be a possibility with Swine Flu as well . A mutated, more deadly version of the virus to reappear next winter.

Keep washing those hands...:|

WHO now state that the swine flu may infect 2 billion people :o

Some people are holding "Swine Flu Parties" in order to deliberately catch the virus. The reasoning is that if you catch this mild version, you will build up immunity in case a more deadly mutation re-occurs later in the year.

Anyone?