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Lickszz 14-03-2003, 01:28 AM This pub used to have another name, but I can't remember what. I was wondering does anyone know exactly wy they called the pub this name? I have been told that many years ago someone with the surname Broughton was one of the last people to be hanged from Sheffield. If you look outside the pub there is a model of someone been hanged. Can anyone verify this story? Is the pub named after this guy?
Yes Lickszz you are right. In 1791 Spence Broughton and an accomplice held up the Sheffield and Rotherham Mail and stole post bags. He was not a local man but from Lincolnshire. He was executed a year later in York but his body was brought back to Sheffield and was hung in chains on a gibbet on Attercliffe Common. He hung there for 36 years...incredible but true. :shock:
Lickszz 14-03-2003, 12:29 PM Originally posted by "Mo"
Yes Lickszz you are right. In 1791 Spence Broughton and an accomplice held up the Sheffield and Rotherham Mail and stole post bags. He was not a local man but from Lincolnshire. He was executed a year later in York but his body was brought back to Sheffield and was hung in chains on a gibbet on Attercliffe Common. He hung there for 36 years...incredible but true. :shock:
Wow, fascinating stuff. Thanks for verifying this for me.
pauline 01-09-2003, 10:04 PM It used to be called The Stadium but I cant remember what it was called before that sorry:(
Michael_W 02-09-2003, 12:43 AM Try this Lickszz
Railway Hotel (http://www.sheffieldpubs.fsnet.co.uk/Business/pubs/railwayhotel.htm)
Lickszz 02-09-2003, 01:02 AM Originally posted by Michael_W
Try this Lickszz
http://www.sheffieldpubs.fsnet.co.uk/Business/pubs/railwayhotel.htm (Railway Hotel)
It says cannot display link?
Michael_W 02-09-2003, 01:07 AM Try it now Lickszz, I'd put the link in incorrectly :blush:
Lickszz 02-09-2003, 01:51 AM Yes It works fine now. Thanks for that. Much appreicated.
PaulTansley 02-09-2003, 08:55 PM The pub began with E....... but can't quite remember the name.
George 02-09-2003, 09:11 PM the pubs name was the Enfield
Michael_W 03-09-2003, 01:40 AM Err...... check these links ?
Enfield Arms (http://www.sheffieldpubs.fsnet.co.uk/Business/pubs/enfield.htm)
Railway Hotel (http://www.sheffieldpubs.fsnet.co.uk/Business/pubs/railwayhotel.htm)
Escafeld1889 03-09-2003, 02:49 AM Originally posted by Mo
his body was brought back to Sheffield and was hung in chains on a gibbet on Attercliffe Common.
Apparently there's a story connected with this blokes bones being somehow incorporated into crockery hence the term 'bone china'.
The story is told on one of the pubs 'storyboards' but seen as it's a sh|te boozer & I've only had the misfortune to go in once I can't remember the full story.
tango2 26-11-2003, 08:29 PM Originally posted by Mo
Yes Lickszz you are right. In 1791 Spence Broughton and an accomplice held up the Sheffield and Rotherham Mail and stole post bags. He was not a local man but from Lincolnshire. He was executed a year later in York but his body was brought back to Sheffield and was hung in chains on a gibbet on Attercliffe Common. He hung there for 36 years...incredible but true. :shock:
I believe that although S Broughton was not a local man I am told that at the time he was residing in Ecclesfield,he had an co conspiritor im told but I dont know what came of him
bluebird62 15-02-2004, 06:00 PM Iagree about spencer being a highwayman, but the pub did not get the name from spencer broughton. he was actually hung on clifton street which is along surbiton street between the enfield pub and the noose & gibbet formly the railway hotel. he was hung outside the public house " yellow lion" .spencer broughton was caught , hung and left there for 28 years to deter others from following in his footsteps.
all i can say and others agree is that they chose this name for a tourist attraction and nothing else.
i was born and brought up in attercliffe and i would also like to add that i was a bar maid at the railway hotel, which used to do very well with the workers. carbrook hall hotel on attercliffe common is said to be haunted , hahaha that is all i can say. my great gran used to work there in early 1900's and never did she see one ghost. no it is all just for the public to get your money.
please read "a wander up the cliffe" book1 and another wander up the cliffe. you will find them most interesting. if you need anything else please ask. i come from carbrook just behind the carbrook hall hotel. i believe in ghosts but never seen anything from attercliffe.
bluebird62 15-02-2004, 06:26 PM HI, i also want to add that that the enfield is next to the railway hotel on broughton lane with only surbiton street splitting these 2 pubs up. the railway was named the stadium but not for long as it was then sold and the name became the noose and gibbet.
the other person to hold the mail coach up with spencer broughton, was someone with the surname "fern" i am sorry but his christian name escapes me. It is said in history books that fern died somewhere on wadlsley moor , his body was found the following day. Tt was said that workmen in the 1830's whilst digging found the base of the gibbet which had been used to hang spencer broughton's skeleton.
In other books it is said to have been the broughton inn on the corner of broughton lane which was supposed to have hung spencer in the back yard of the pub. but if you dig deeper you will always find the truth. like at the noose & gibbet it is supposed to have spencer broughtons hand behind a case. when we did go down to see for ourselfs we found that the item had been stolen.
like i said in my last email. it is all for the customer. all a load of cock and bull or a load of nonscence. they just want money and they do not mind how they get it. when i was a young child my mother told me about spencer broughton, and frn his accomplace but it is only these last 9 years that his name is now on everyones lips. the landlord and lady have jumped on the bandwagon like those at the carbrook hall. like i said if you want to know anything at all please feel free and ask. i love talking about our history. bye for now.
julie
Funky Dave 16-02-2004, 12:03 AM Carbrook Hall publishes booklets about their supposed hauntings. One involved an evil priesr who had his way with a vulnerable young girl in his charge. Do you know about this story, and do you believe it to be true?
bluebird62 16-02-2004, 09:38 AM Hi DAVE , just to say that i think it is all is all a cock & bull story. due to no-one ever seeing anything. these booklets i first saw in 1984 there was also newspapers infact there used to be a large file of clippings and the sort. if you can read between the lines you will also see that this is a story. i mean it is supposed to be the "most haunted public house in sheffield". why if no-one has never ever seen a ghost ? or felt anything. if this was true do you not think that the paranormal and other people would have investigated. My husband used to live over the wall from the carbrook hall and i myself used to live across bea street on BRIGHT STREET what is now CARBROOK HALL ROAD and never in the time that we lived there when ferns garage used to stand in front of the carbrook hall back in the 1940's till 1972 did anyone ever see anything unusual or the likes.but there are tunnels leading to the manor castle in which mary queen of scots has supposed to have walked for her daily exercise.so you see Dave that nothing is at it seems. There is a most haunted pub though. in the city centre it is the queens head which was once a wash house to the castle. this is situated in the pond street bus station.
even though this has an added extension on it still has a lot of appeal. Drinks from the previous night have sopposedly dissapeared, and the cleaner has said she has seen odd things happen. pumps have swithched themselves on and off. oh Dave i could go on for ever. if you need anything else please contact me at my email i love talking about our history. many thanks is asking and for the email.
sharkw 21-02-2005, 01:57 PM prior to the noose and Gibbet the pub was called Ronnies for a while. I was a local in the Railway for years and the Enfield( I actually married the barmaid from the Enfield)
RiffRaff 21-02-2005, 08:42 PM Next to the old Williams Deacons Bank on the cliffe (now Royal bank of Scot) there was a fruit/veg shop called Pierrepoint (or similar....)
The owner was related to England's official hangman, Albert Pierrepoint, who held the job for donkey's years....
Trever 13-03-2005, 02:29 AM Wasn't it also called "Ronnys Bar" in the late 80's?
Plain Talker 13-03-2005, 01:31 PM Originally posted by RiffRaff
Next to the old Williams Deacons Bank on the cliffe (now Royal bank of Scot) there was a fruit/veg shop called Pierrepoint (or similar....)
The owner was related to England's official hangman, Albert Pierrepoint, who held the job for donkey's years....
You can still just about see the name above the shopfront,, it's either "W. Pierrepoint" or "W. Pierrepont" It's just opposite (is it Worksop Road, or Leeds road junction?)
PT
Originally posted by Lickszz
This pub used to have another name, but I can't remember what. I was wondering does anyone know exactly wy they called the pub this name? I have been told that many years ago someone with the surname Broughton was one of the last people to be hanged from Sheffield. If you look outside the pub there is a model of someone been hanged. Can anyone verify this story? Is the pub named after this guy? There is a book called the Sheffield Hanged it has the full story in there .
bluebird62 08-05-2006, 08:41 PM Next to the old Williams Deacons Bank on the cliffe (now Royal bank of Scot) there was a fruit/veg shop called Pierrepoint (or similar....)
The owner was related to England's official hangman, Albert Pierrepoint, who held the job for donkey's years....
HI RiffRaff
you are correct, THOMAS WILLIAM PIERRPOINT who the shop belonged to, was the brother of HENRY ALBERT PIERRPOINT and uncle to young ALBERT PIERRPOINT. all who were hangmen.
[A book called "EXECUCUTIONER; PIERRPOINT can be bought from play.com for £5.99 the retail price is £7.99
p/s it is really a very good book of information.
juliediane
ringo 06-01-2007, 06:09 PM This pub used to have another name, but I can't remember what. I was wondering does anyone know exactly wy they called the pub this name? I have been told that many years ago someone with the surname Broughton was one of the last people to be hanged from Sheffield. If you look outside the pub there is a model of someone been hanged. Can anyone verify this story? Is the pub named after this guy?
it used to be called the railway when i used to go about 27 years ago
bluebird62 06-01-2007, 07:39 PM Err...... check these links ?
Enfield Arms (http://www.sheffieldpubs.fsnet.co.uk/Business/pubs/enfield.htm)
Railway Hotel (http://www.sheffieldpubs.fsnet.co.uk/Business/pubs/railwayhotel.htm)
Re the railway pub.
it was not outside the pheasant inn, it was on the side street called clifton street where he was hung, and the foundations of the gibbett were found buried deep of the back yard by a builder. I have had this out with library archives time and time before.
bluebird62 06-01-2007, 08:05 PM Try this Lickszz
Railway Hotel (http://www.sheffieldpubs.fsnet.co.uk/Business/pubs/railwayhotel.htm)
[The Gibbet outside portraying the body of Spence Broughton. Again geography is not a strong point; Spence Broughton was gibbeted outside the Arrow, (later renamed Pheasant) near Carbrook Hall on Attercliffe Common.]
The Pheasant inn has always had that name, it was never called the arrow. Opposite side of the road in the 18th centuey were 2 inns , one called
ye olde harrow inn and the other was called the carbrook, now the carbrook hall. but the pheasant inn, was a wooden single storey inn in the 18 century was always called the pheasant and nothing else. I have the photo to prove this, it is an old b/w sketch as photos were not thought of in the 18th century lol.
i have even donated this photo to the local archives for all to view and can be seen on picture sheffield.com. one thing that they cant come to realise is that the atterclidffe road was called the attercliffe common like today. and that this sketch is by E HIDES. This was when the cattle roamed the common on the fields. Also when Broughton lane was named Greenland Engine Road, which goes to prove that the road was there a long time before spencer broughton,
whitewitch 06-01-2007, 11:38 PM [QUOTE]=bluebird62]HI RiffRaff
you are correct, THOMAS WILLIAM PIERRPOINT who the shop belonged to, was the brother of HENRY ALBERT PIERRPOINT and uncle to young ALBERT PIERRPOINT. all who were hangmen.
I looked after Amy pierrpoint who was the wife of presumabley thomas (cant remember her husbands name), she often talked about the shop and also she had those wooden fruit stalls on the sides of the roads, she sadly passed away 1990/1991
bluebird62 07-01-2007, 11:41 AM Next to the old Williams Deacons Bank on the cliffe (now Royal bank of Scot) there was a fruit/veg shop called Pierrepoint (or similar....)
The owner was related to England's official hangman, Albert Pierrepoint, who held the job for donkey's years....
The owner was a hangman himself, thomas william pierrpoint did attend so many executions with young Albert pierrpoint , these were uncle and nephew. Albert , the elder was brother of THomas william pierrpoint. They all held the official job of the hangmen ever since 1901.
if anyone would like any more information on the subject i would only be please to help if i can.
AS there are many accounts of the pierrpoints not actually correct only old wives tales.
bluebird62
40summat 07-01-2007, 11:58 AM You should do tours of the area bluebird62 i am enjoying this thread thanks to yours and all the other information shared here.
It will make my daily drive to and from work more interesting, lets hear more
Bloomdido 07-01-2007, 01:01 PM I used to drink in there too in my youth when it was the Railway. The proprietors were John and Brenda Horsefield who then took over the Fox in Beighton. Barry Goodison then became the landlord and I moved away in 1980. I recall the landlord's son telling me about a ghost he had seen in there. I've been in since and it is totally different. I used to go in the Enfield too and the Friendship, also called the 'Top Common'. My parents were born in Attercliffe, hence the connection. Does anyone remember Fred Poole the coalman who used to drink in there?
multiparvo1 07-01-2007, 04:11 PM Yes Lickszz you are right. In 1791 Spence Broughton and an accomplice held up the Sheffield and Rotherham Mail and stole post bags. He was not a local man but from Lincolnshire. He was executed a year later in York but his body was brought back to Sheffield and was hung in chains on a gibbet on Attercliffe Common. He hung there for 36 years...incredible but true. :shock:
The above is the true version. Spence Broughton, born at Sleaford, Lincs, and his accomplice John Oxley were arrested in London in October 1791 and sent to Newgate Prison from which John Oxley escaped. Spence Broughton was tried and executed at York on the 14th Apriil 1792, his body being brought to Sheffield the scene of the crime two days later where it was hung in a gibbet on Attercliffe Common. John Oxley's body was found on Loxley Moor, Sheffield in January 1793.
sharkw 08-01-2007, 06:54 PM If you used to go in the Railway, You will remember me well Ringo. pm if interested
mrsnoo 14-01-2007, 07:51 PM Can we please have more interesting facts about Attercliffe. Really enjoying this thread,as I am researching family from Clifton Street and Attercliffe Road.
Was Attercliffe Road ever called Tinsley Road as I have death cert. saying that my Great great died on here.
Hope you can help Bluebird 62
CathS 14-01-2007, 09:47 PM Wow this thread is amazing.
Loving learning about Sheffield History. Keep it going!!
Greybeard 14-01-2007, 11:07 PM Can we please have more interesting facts about Attercliffe. Really enjoying this thread,as I am researching family from Clifton Street and Attercliffe Road.
Was Attercliffe Road ever called Tinsley Road as I have death cert. saying that my Great great died on here.
On a map I have dated 1890 Attercliffe road (as now) was in three sections.
From the junction with Savile street to Washford Bridge it was known as Tinsley road.
From Washford Bridge to the junction with Staniforth road it was known as Carlton road.
From Staniforth road to Newhall road it was called High street.
I'm afraid I don't know exactly when it was all changed to Attercliffe road but it was before 1905.
Hope that helps :thumbsup:
Apparently there's a story connected with this blokes bones being somehow incorporated into crockery hence the term 'bone china'.
The story is told on one of the pubs 'storyboards' but seen as it's a sh|te boozer & I've only had the misfortune to go in once I can't remember the full story.
I think this is what you mean, i posted it on another thread a while ago:thumbsup: While I was looking for something else in the Archives today I found an article headed "Curious momento ". In June 1871, a Don China jug was sold at auction in London for £4. The story surounding the jug was that a group of potters from the Don Pottery at Swinton had been drinking in Sheffield, and were making their way home in the early hours worse for wear. As they passed the gibbet with the remains of Broughton's corpse still hanging there, they decided to throw a stone at the corpse. As a result the bones of two fingers fell from the gibbet, and they picked them up and took them home. Some time later, the pottery was experimenting with making bone china, and they took the bones, ground them up, and added them to the clay, which was used to make the jug. The article named the men who made and decorated the jug, so the story may well be true
mrsnoo 15-01-2007, 05:25 PM Thanks Greybeard
This makes sence to me as the death was 1871. The pub that she lived in was the Royal Hotel and on "Tinsley Road".
sharkw 15-01-2007, 06:06 PM Never known a Tinsley road but I know Tinsley Park road that is still there( well half of it )
sharkw 15-01-2007, 06:08 PM The Royal pub was on attercliffe Common until the early eighties My friend used to be the landlord there
sharkw 15-01-2007, 06:14 PM Hiya Mrsnoo My schoolmate used to live on CiftonStreet right next door to the pub called' The Yellow Bear' To the rear of the pub is where Spencer Broughtons body was gibbeted after been hanged in York There was also an off licence shop on the corner of Clifton Styree where I used to but my 'woodpecker' cider from (when I was under age ) Naughty
mrsnoo 16-01-2007, 05:36 PM I can't remember the shops but my father lived where KFCs car park now is.
He didn't live there long. His father moved there when dad was doing National Service (and didn't tell him) and dad was married soon after.
Remember going there in the late sixties.
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