For anyone with Irish ancestory settling in Sheffield, there is a new book available called "St. Vincent's - A History" available. It's full of old photos, maps, architects drawings of the crofts and churches of the time, both colour and black & white dating back from the 1850s to the present day.

A must read for "Old Sheffield Hands". Available from the new St. Vincent's Church, Pickmere Road, Crookes. 44 x A4 pages @ £3 per copy, (non profit making) and well worth much more than £3!!!

Email me: martin1print@yahoo.com for further details.

Martin.

Inspired by Don_kiddick who seems to be finding old threads, I looked and discovered this.

My Grandma was Irish and settled in Solly St and sent my Mom to St Vincents School. She in her turn sent me and my brothers and sister back to the same school.
My memories of the School are vivid as I went their until I was 10. I remember chanting times tables and being taught by the Sisters of Charity.
The Sunday processions that wound out of the church and up Solly St and back into St Vincents church which was full and overflowing with people. I remember the banners with Saints depicted on them and the smell of the incense and the glow of the candles remain with me after all these years.
These were the years of my childhood.
I must send for the book.

hazel

Hazel, in that case, you will really enjoy reading that book. Lots of old photos and maps and some in colour too.

Well found Hazel, I'm flattered that I inspired someone in my time on this God's Earth :thumbsup:

I too have Irish ancestry (on my Dad's side).

Origionally the O'morra tribe I think (hope ;) )

I think at the time you inspired me, you were taking the p---s on another thread
But never-the -less I rose above it and quite enjoyed reading the old threads. Now becaue of it, I am renewing my childhood and all thanks to you

hazel

Originally posted by hazel
I think at the time you inspired me, you were taking the p---s on another thread
But never-the -less I rose above it and quite enjoyed reading the old threads. Now becaue of it, I am renewing my childhood and all thanks to you

hazel

Hazel,

I never intended to take the p**s??? - I'm not into sniping on the internet?

I sent an email to you just now.

Sorry Martin,
I didn't mean you, it was don_kiddock I meant on another thread about looking up old threads-- it's in Introductions.
It's got complicated now and blame my warped sense of humour,
no offense meant .
hazel

Originally posted by martin1print
For anyone with Irish ancestory settling in Sheffield, there is a new book available called "St. Vincent's - A History" available. It's full of old photos, maps, architects drawings of the crofts and churches of the time, both colour and black & white dating back from the 1850s to the present day.

A must read for "Old Sheffield Hands". Available from the new St. Vincent's Church, Pickmere Road, Crookes. 44 x A4 pages @ £3 per copy, (non profit making) and well worth much more than £3!!!

Email me: martin1print@yahoo.com for further details.

Martin.

is this book still available?
regards
SW

im from irish stock g grandparents they lived in lambert court
scotland street area i was told that was the irish quarter

My G G Grandfather and G G Grandmother on my fathers side came from Ireland.
In the 1861 census they lived on Orchard St ,by 1871 they where living in the Crofts Which was the predominant Irish ghetto.
My Father was adopted, it was only recently that I learned of the Irish connection , I don't think my father ever knew.
Unfortunately it is difficult to try and trace people in Ireland . Most of the records where destroyed in the fire in Dublin, when the Irish were fighting for independence

Originally posted by pk014b7161
im from irish stock g grandparents they lived in lambert court
scotland street area i was told that was the irish quarter

thats is true..my relatives from ireland ALL settled in the scotland street area
SW XX

Yes, there were a lot of Irish that settled in the "St Vincents/ Solly St / Port Mahon area.

My ex hubby's family were of Irish descent, and they settled in Port Mahon, they owned a shop near Burnt Tree Lane (IIRC).

PT

Originally posted by hazel
Inspired by Don_kiddick who seems to be finding old threads, I looked and discovered this.

My Grandma was Irish and settled in Solly St and sent my Mom to St Vincents School. She in her turn sent me and my brothers and sister back to the same school.
My memories of the School are vivid as I went their until I was 10. I remember chanting times tables and being taught by the Sisters of Charity.
The Sunday processions that wound out of the church and up Solly St and back into St Vincents church which was full and overflowing with people. I remember the banners with Saints depicted on them and the smell of the incense and the glow of the candles remain with me after all these years.
These were the years of my childhood.
I must send for the book.

hazel

My father was born in that area in 1914 and the family lived there for many a long year
Do you remember(or would prefer to forget) the Horan family

My father was born in the Crofts area and named after St Vincent's, then the family moved to "The New Housing Estate Wybourn" (can you imagine the Wybourn ever being new) back in the 30s,so our grandparents could have shared a Noggin of Grog together.

Or even the same loo, come to think of it.

Artisan
I remember the name Horan and for some reason Mary Horan rings a bell but that's all. My Mom was born about 1911 in Solly St.

Coyleys
My family moved to the new houusing estate called Arbourthorne just before I was born in 1936 so yes our grandparents propably knew each other.
My Mom used to talk of fetching jugs of ale for her father on a Sunday after walking behind the banner of the Guild of St Agnes She said she hated it. Not sure whether it was the beer or the banner.

hazel

That would be my Aunt Mary, she introduced her brother ( my father) to my mother.
So she is the one to blame for me being here :)

I went up to buy a copy of the History of Saint Vincents recently and the father only had his own copy left, all the rest had been sold on.

The father let me have his own copy, G-d Bless him!

I thought I'd let everyone know so they do not waste their time going up to the church.

Happy Days

Originally posted by PopT
I went up to buy a copy of the History of Saint Vincents recently and the father only had his own copy left, all the rest had been sold on.

The father let me have his own copy, G-d Bless him!

I thought I'd let everyone know so they do not waste their time going up to the church.

Happy Days

isnt there any way you could share that ie scanning in and letting us have a read?
SW :)

PopT
I bought 3 copies before Christmas for me, my sister and brother who all went to St Vincents school, so must have cleared him out.
artisan
Your Aunt Mary was probably at St Vincents the same time as me. ? Same age
hazel

hazel, that must be a different one as my Aunt Mary was born around the early 1910's. I was born in 1951
I can remember bck in the 70's going into a pub in that area, it was just a doorway in along wall.
Inside it was just wooden benches and old guys having a pint.
Does any one know if this pub still exists? (or am I imagining things)

I obtained a copy of "St Vincents ,The History of a Parish".
It was mailed to me here in Canada."with the compliments of St Vincents'.
I requested the book and they mailed it to me free of charge .
Needless to say I made a donation to St Vincents to cover the cost +.
My contact person was Patrick Hussey.
It was designed and printed by: Impact Graphics. Sheffield.
If this helps anyone trying to obtain a copy

As an ex - pat only just come across the history of St Vincents.

Whats the latest on "St Vincents ,The History of a Parish"?

Is it definitely out of print or has someone got a stock somewhere?

Thanks

My great-great-grandmother Anne Frith (nee Bowden) came from Drogheda in 1847 and settled in Sheffield. She was living on Attercliffe Road, Brightside in 1848. Her father James might have come over as well. There was a James Bowden of the right age who died in 1849. He lived at 1 Love Lane - just off Bridge Street behind West Bar. Was Love Lane crowded with Irish immigrants too?

I would be interested if there are still copies of the book around, my ggg grandfather came from Ireland. I got a good booklet at the York Family History Fair. It's called the Irish in Britain 1815-1914 by Roger Swift.
Lois

I would be interested if there are still copies of the book around, my ggg grandfather came from Ireland. I got a good booklet at the York Family History Fair. It's called the Irish in Britain 1815-1914 by Roger Swift.
Lois

Complements of Google---

Irish Migrants in Britain, 1815-1914
A Documentary History
Roger Swift
The past twenty years have witnessed tremendous developments in regard to the academic study of the experience of Irish migrants in nineteenth-century Britain. As witnessed not only by the burgeoning historiography of the subject but also by the growth of specialist courses on the Irish in Britain in universities and colleges.

This documentary history, the first of its kind, seeks to support and inform the scholarly study of the experiences of Irish men and women in Britain between 1815 and 1914 by reference to a wide range of contemporary sources. It examines the Irish experience in Britain thematically, by reference to migration, settlement, employment, social conditions (poverty, public health, housing and crime), religious identities, and contemporary perceptions.

Each chapter comprises a commentary, which provides a contextual framework for the analysis of the sources that follow; a selection of primary sources; and a series of end-notes, which point to further reading. The book also includes a bibliographical essay on primary sources and a comprehensive bibliography.
Roger Swift is Director of the Centre for Victorian Studies, Chester College, University of Liverpool.
360 pp., 6" x 9 1/4", July 2002
Published by Cork University Press

Thanks Coyleys for that.
Lois

My company designed and printed the book 'History of St. Vincent's' and it appears all copies have been sold already. It is a pity as there is still a lot of interest. However, I have the whole book on computer disc and could possibly upload it on the St. Vincent's website. I need to talk with the Parish Priest about that. - Martin. Impact Graphics.

Bye the way, we have just designed and printed a new book 'A Tribute to St. Oswald's School' Wybourn, lots of nostalgia, old photos (some colour), stories etc. Available from the school secretary if any ex-pupils are interested.

Update - A brief illustrated history of the Irish settlers and St. Vincent's parish is now online at:
http://www.stvincentscarpark.com/the-history-of-st-vincents.html
Email: martin1print@yahoo for further details.

Thanks Martin
Just read it,
I think in the first part the dates are wrong, 1900s instead of 1800s makes it a bit confusing.
hazel

Got to thinking since the surname Clarke is very heavy in the south presume they are Catholic since I'm not Ive got to keep an open mind on my roots,as the very first Clarke on record (that i can find)came from the south of England Hmm

Thanks Martin
Just read it,
I think in the first part the dates are wrong, 1900s instead of 1800s makes it a bit confusing.
hazel

Not sure what you mean? In the third paragraph it refers to a Catholic revival in 1853?

CYMS
Was it started May 1954 or 1854 ?
hazel

CYMS
Was it started May 1954 or 1854 ?
hazel

Not sure Hazel, but I will check.

Hazel, ... Wikipedia states it was founded in Edinburgh in 1865 ... see: -

There was a substantial migration of Irish people to Scotland during the 19th century, particularly after the Irish Potato Famine. Most settled in the Glasgow area, but a small proportion made their way through to Edinburgh.[5] The Cowgate was known as Little Ireland at the time, due to the concentration of Irish people in the area.[5]
The St. Patrick's Church in the Cowgate had founded a Catholic Young Men's Society (CYMS) in 1865.[6]

Maybe we need to change this on the website.

Bye the way, did you used to go to St. Vincent's school many years ago? I have a friend (now 75) and he remembers walking to school with no breakfast and going to the big Corporation restaurant on West Bar Green (where HSBC is now). He of course had no money and used to beg for scraps from the pavement outside. Occasionally he would be given a slice of bread before walking up Hollis Croft to school.

The Cowgate was known as Little Ireland at the time, due to the concentration of Irish people in the area


Ah where the great man himself was born and raised

James Connolly :thumbsup:

My friend went to St Vincents School. Does anyone remember red haired Patricia Burke?

I went to St Vincents School from about 1942 to 47, can't remember a Pat Burke there but there was a Pat Burke at Notre Dame.
I made my way to school through Paradise Square and up Solly St, there was a lodgeing house on the corner of Solly St opposite the tram depot.
Must have missed the handouts, but can't remember being hungry as your friend must have been.
hazel

I went to St Vincents School from about 1942 to 47, can't remember a Pat Burke there but there was a Pat Burke at Notre Dame.
I made my way to school through Paradise Square and up Solly St, there was a lodgeing house on the corner of Solly St opposite the tram depot.
Must have missed the handouts, but can't remember being hungry as your friend must have been.
hazel

Thanks. My friend has a strong memory. I will ask him if he remembers yourself and Pat Burke. The old school buildings and church are still there but in quite a state. There is one resident at the school - a fox!

I was in Dublin Archives recently, they have a fabulous set up with loads of records for births, marriages and deaths. The 1901 & 1911 Irish census are now available free on line at nationalarchives.ie

Marion in NI

I was in Dublin Archives recently, they have a fabulous set up with loads of records for births, marriages and deaths. The 1901 & 1911 Irish census are now available free on line at nationalarchives.ie

Marion in NI

I worked on the Castle Market in Sheffield in the late 50,s early 60,s .the ganger man was called Jim Quirke, my mate was Ted Lawler, both broad Irish men they knocked me around a bit in a friendly sort of way.

hi i was wondering if any1 knew were i could find details of irish residents who lived in the heely area around 25 years ago on myrtle road?

hi i was wondering if any1 knew were i could find details of irish residents who lived in the heely area around 25 years ago on myrtle road?

A good place to start would be the Catholic parish, probably Monsignor Kilgannon at Mother of God on Abbeydale Road. There may also be records at St. Wilfrid's Drop In Centre.

A good place to start would be the Catholic parish, probably Monsignor Kilgannon at Mother of God on Abbeydale Road. There may also be records at St. Wilfrid's Drop In Centre.

- - - NEW BOOK OUT - - -

"The Forgotten Irish" by Sean Carney. Sean's book with illustrations looks at an Irish Community in South Yorkshire which numbered just a few in 1911 but by the 1950's had grown to almost 2000. Details of the book available at fergus452@btinternet.com. Copies available £13.50 post paid from Maltby Catholic Club, Leeds Irish Centre and The Wakefield Mining Museum.

For anyone with Irish ancestory settling in Sheffield, there is a new book available called "St. Vincent's - A History" available. It's full of old photos, maps, architects drawings of the crofts and churches of the time, both colour and black & white dating back from the 1850s to the present day.

A must read for "Old Sheffield Hands". Available from the new St. Vincent's Church, Pickmere Road, Crookes. 44 x A4 pages @ £3 per copy, (non profit making) and well worth much more than £3!!!

Email me: martin1print@yahoo.com for further details.

Martin.thanks martin

Its a travesty a city the size of Sheffield does not have an Irish Centre, I have memories of the old one in Pitsmoor and something similar would be brilliant for Sheffield.

I don't mean Irish pubs as there has been many over the years that claimed to be Irish but were they really? I don't think so, St Vincents is the closet thing to one but isnt a great venue and apart from loyal patrons not many Irish would go out of their way to go to the places but if we had something similar to say the Polish Club venue on Ecclesall Rd it would be brilliant, members only type place and you would have to be signed in by an existing member if you were not joined up already. Apart from the evenings and functions who wouldn't want a private members Irish centre to go and watch GAA on a Sunday afternoon? Like all other big citys have.

If anyone did this and did it right they would have a very strong business and venue.

Its a travesty a city the size of Sheffield does not have an Irish Centre, I have memories of the old one in Pitsmoor and something similar would be brilliant for Sheffield.

I don't mean Irish pubs as there has been many over the years that claimed to be Irish but were they really? I don't think so, St Vincents is the closet thing to one but isnt a great venue and apart from loyal patrons not many Irish would go out of their way to go to the places but if we had something similar to say the Polish Club venue on Ecclesall Rd it would be brilliant, members only type place and you would have to be signed in by an existing member if you were not joined up already. Apart from the evenings and functions who wouldn't want a private members Irish centre to go and watch GAA on a Sunday afternoon? Like all other big citys have.

If anyone did this and did it right they would have a very strong business and venue.

Agreed. Of course, finding the right venue and the funding would not be at all easy in these times of austerity.