Just seen an incident on my road of a large Ikita dog ( I think thats how it's spelt ) roaming loose on my road. I actually just heard the screams of a terrified young girl and ran to the window - she was screaming and backing off whilst this dog walked and growled around her. It was almost the same size as her.

I ran down to find neighbours already out on the road - the dog ran into an alley way and the girl went crying home.
The owner has just been to collect the dog who was barking like crazy. Is this a matter for the police?

Is it worth calling them or the RSPCA at all?

Ring both.. It sounds like the dog is to be considered a threat, and ifg it had had a pop at the kid the poor child would've come off worst...

But yeah you should report the matter to the authorities.

How can a dog be Illegal? :confused:

In any case, an Akita is a very large and I suppose scary dog as it is a Japanese fighting dog, so potentially could be dangerous.

If it had just escaped fromt he owners house, and didnt actually do any harm then there is not much the police or RSPCA could do. If it was wandering loose for a long time, or regularly on the loose then that might be different.

We had this problem with a pitbull one time 4years ago,and kids was playing in the street.if was too barking and chaceing all the kids and sometimes pinning kids to a wall.and also went for my daughter and her friend.if it was not for my kid kicking a ball to the dog to chace i hate to think what this dog would have done.it then desided to go for a neighbour who picked his kid up from the street.

we got the police, we did ask if it was a police matter and they did send two cars pluss a dog van out,and police stop till the dog van got this dog,the owners did get done for letting this dog roam arround the street.but they also got let off as they agreed to have the dog put down.

so yes any dog that goes or is a thret for anyone that on the streets should be reported to the police so they can witness the dog and talk to the owners.

I think I'll go and see the family of the girl later tonight as they only live up the road and see how the young girl is. Poor thing was shaking like a leaf.

It should be reported, even if it's only to provide any evidence that may be required for a repeat performance. Don't make a fuss, just say you want the info logged for future reference :thumbsup:

I think I am right in saying all dogs should have a collar and ID tag attached if they are out of their own house/garden. If it doesn't, then it is an offence whether it is with the owner or not, whether it threatens anyone or not.

The fact that this dog threatened a child makes it a potentially dangerous dog and as such should be reported to the police.

It's far less common these days to see dogs roaming the streets, but any dog that is roaming the streets is liable to be collected by the dog warden.

I hope this little girl is ok, but this incident is bound to have made her very wary of dogs, which is a shame because many dogs are lovely, friendly pets.

Originally posted by spinny
We had this problem with a pitbull one time 4years ago,and kids was playing in the street.if was too barking and chaceing all the kids and sometimes pinning kids to a wall.and also went for my daughter and her friend.if it was not for my kid kicking a ball to the dog to chace i hate to think what this dog would have done.it then desided to go for a neighbour who picked his kid up from the street.


I had a similar problem with a neighbours dog. It was only a mongrel but it was forever running loose on our road and barking/growling and circling not just kids but anyone who went past/near it. Despite neighbours asking the dogs owner to keep it tied up while kids used the road for getting to and from school, she never did. Until the day the dog went for my son, I went to see her and I may have been a "little aggressive" but funnily enough the dog remained on her property and in her garden after that. ;)

But in all seriousness Lestat, I would report the incident to both the police and the RSPCA, goodness knows what would have happened if you hadn't intervened, plus you'd never forgive yourself if the dog "escaped" again and actually did harm someone.

Originally posted by Hels
I think I am right in saying all dogs should have a collar and ID tag attached if they are out of their own house/garden. If it doesn't, then it is an offence whether it is with the owner or not, whether it threatens anyone or not.



No, they don't require to have a tag attached etc.

BUT, the Akita is covered by the dangerous dogs act, along with pit bulls, the dogos argentinos and the Brazilian filos.

These are all fighting dogs and are not allowed to roam free at any time and, AFAIK, should always be muzzled in public.

Anyone who allows a dog such as this to roam in public is not fit to own a dog and should be reported to the police.

Hopefully the dog owner will be feeling terrible that his dog managed to get out as it doesn't sound as though this animal is always on the prowl. I feel sorry for the girl as well because a circling dog is never a nice sight particularily when it's circling you. A lot of people used to be worried when they saw the Akita that I looked after but when they realised he was safe to pat on many occasions he had five or six kiddies all crowding round him and he loved it.
On a side issue Akita's do not have to be muzzled in public and as long as they are being looked after and handled by some-one who knows what they are doing they are not particularily aggressive towards humans.
All dogs from Yorkshire Terriers to Bull Mastiffs can be aggressive but the only problems I have witnessed with Male Akita's is their dominant attitude towards other dogs.

Originally posted by WallBuilder
Hopefully the dog owner will be feeling terrible that his dog managed to get out as it doesn't sound as though this animal is always on the prowl. I feel sorry for the girl as well because a circling dog is never a nice sight particularily when it's circling you. A lot of people used to be worried when they saw the Akita that I looked after but when they realised he was safe to pat on many occasions he had five or six kiddies all crowding round him and he loved it.
On a side issue Akita's do not have to be muzzled in public and as long as they are being looked after and handled by some-one who knows what they are doing they are not particularily aggressive towards humans.
All dogs from Yorkshire Terriers to Bull Mastiffs can be aggressive but the only problems I have witnessed with Male Akita's is their dominant attitude towards other dogs.

Agreed. I have never had a problem with them. My Bro had a SBT and I had a Dobermann. Both were big pussy cats. At the same time, both were capable of serioud damage if allowed to run free.

My mistake about the Akitas...I thought they had to be muzzled, although no breed of dog is inherently dangerous to humans.

Originally posted by Rob_Roy
although no breed of dog is inherently dangerous to humans.

I do have reservations about Chiwawa's, evil little gremlins for the most part especially the short haired ones.

At the end of last week we saw an Akita on the way to school (loads of kids about). It was on it's own and ran up to a lady walking her smaller terrier type dog. The Akita was having a real go and the woman was having big troube trying to keep them apart. Eventually a youngish woman came along and dragged the dog off as it was presumabaly hers. She didn't seem to offer any apology or anything, just stormed off with the dog. It could've been really dangerous with so many kids about. I have to say, it shook us up a bit.

All dogs are potential baby eaters and should be stamped with a warning label!

Originally posted by Rob_Roy
No, they don't require to have a tag attached etc.

Disagree with that comment.

It is a law in the UK, that all dogs MUST have a collar and tag, with the owners telephone number on it.

Illegal Dog on the loose - is that in addition to the 1/100 illegal immigrants we have in this wonderful country of ours???

I know all about Ikia dogs. They are a swedish breed and have to be assembled yourself. :hihi: :hihi:

I am sure I saw a post about a guy who had lost his Akita ... then found it agian - uumm ... wonder if it was the same one.

Any dogs rooming should be reported, as they are a danger to themselves and others !!!

Did I really just type 'rooming' ... oh dear, in need of a drink !!

No that was me. My akita Mishka wandered out of the front door that my daughter had left open. We found her hiding at the back of a neighbours garden a couple of hours later.
I can't tell you how much worry it caused. She is a softie and loves fuss from all especially children, but it was the threat of traffic accidents she could have caused and also encounters with other dogs. Akitas are very dominant and need to be watched carefully around other dogs, especially those of the same sex. It's usually only a snap and a bark to try and see who's boss, but it can be scary to see for people who aren't used to dog scraps!
All dogs need to be owned by dedicated, sensible, considerate owners! Mishka is a much loved dog - and it shows. Unfortunately a lot of akitas are owned by nobheads who think the dog makes them look good. There are a few posts about this on a nusiance akita in hillsborough...

Originally posted by EyeSpy
Disagree with that comment.

It is a law in the UK, that all dogs MUST have a collar and tag, with the owners telephone number on it.

Since when?

Presumably you don't own a dog.

Originally posted by Rob_Roy
Since when?
Since 1930 at least

Presumably you don't own a dog.

I don't own a dog, and it took me 5 seconds (literally) to find this:

Collars

The Control of Dogs Order 1930 (as amended) requires that every dog in a public place must wear a collar with the owner's name and address on it. The exemptions are when the dog is being used for sporting purposes, driving or tending livestock, destruction of 'vermin' or is one of a pack of hounds.
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(and this http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/4639517.stm)

Not sure whether the telephone number requirement has since been added as in 1930 many people did not have one.

But the law does state your dog must wear a collar and an address tag when out in public.

Dogs should also be chipped and DNA tested so their poop can be identified and sent back to the owners from the street they left it on (assuming the owners don't scoop).

We have a dog, and I knew i'd seen somewhere that he must have a collar and ID tag.

Anyway, managed to find this:

DOG COLLARS
Article 1 control of dogs order 1992

Every dog while in a highway or in a place of public resort, shall wear a collar with the name and address of the owner inscribed on the collar or on a plate or badge attached thereto.

Exceptions:

Dogs used on official duties by the armed forces, HM Customs & Excise or the police

Dogs used for sporting purposes and packs of hounds

Dogs used for the capture and destruction of vermin

Dogs used for driving or tending cattle or sheep

Guide dogs for the blind

Dogs used for emergency rescue work

The owner of the dog and any person in charge of it, who, without lawful authority or excuse causes or permits the dog to be on the highway or place or public resort shall each be guilty of an offence. Dogs not wearing a collar may be seized as a stray dog. This order shall be executed and enforced by the local authority and not by the police.

More or less what I said in my first post - but this time it is the official wording (as at 2003).

I see an awful lot of dogs that aren't wearing collars and those that are usually don't have a name tag on. I have a choke chain for max that did have a tag on it with my surname and phone number but the wire holding it on the chain was so feeble he lost it within days.
So anyway I'm just wondering does a choke chain count as a collar? I've never heard of anyone being penalised for this offence and was also wondering if anyone actually has been fined. On the 'Life of Grime type of programs from London they were very keen on catching people who allowed their dogs to foul in parks but never once did i hear of some-one being caught because of a missing collar and some of the dogs featured certainly were collarless.

Originally posted by WallBuilder

So anyway I'm just wondering does a choke chain count as a collar?

'Check' chain - not choke chain. I assume you dont use it as a torture device?? :thumbsup:

Anyway - It does count as a collar, but you still must have the id tag. My dogs dont have id tags though for the same reason as you - when you put one on they loose it within a day. What I keep meaning to do is get those metal plates you can slide the collar through and get it engraved.
They are chipped though, so even though i could get prosecuted (but wont) I'll still get them back if they run off and manage to avoid buses before the dog warden gets them!

no dogs should be allowed to roam in the streets unsupervised
especially one like an akita

report it to the police and rspca

Lestat, do you live in Hillsborough? If so theres and Akita contstantly roaming around there, normally in the park, and the owner doesn't appear to notice/care. It has mauled other dogs in the past. I bet the poor girl was terrified, I'm not so keen on any growling dog even if its small!

I have posted about that dog in hillsborough several times

becarefull it bady bitten (?) my dog finlay

Yeah, I remember that post, I've seen it recently but needless to say kept well away. My boyfirend has a small dog who barks at other dogs, if it caught her it'd have no problem in having her for its dinner.

Originally posted by Phanerothyme

But the law does state your dog must wear a collar and an address tag when out in public.



You learn somthing new every day. I had my dog for 11 1/2 years and she had an ID tag for approximately one week before if fell off.

Mind you, she was a Dobermann and it could be argued that she was used to control vermin.

A shame about the kid in Wales but having an ID tag doesn't help to control a dog.

Originally posted by floyd77
'Check' chain - not choke chain. I assume you dont use it as a torture device?? :thumbsup: !

I've always called it a choke chain and use it correctly as a check chain, if I ever see anyone misusing a choke chain on a dog I say something which has in the past caused me to have a heated arguement with some-one in a park.
As far as using it as a torture device my girlfriend said NO!!