A wesite can now be visited to help you trace family of Italian descent
http://west-bar-italians.co.uk

thought someone might have commented:loopy:

Thanks for the website makes interesting reading for me, as my grandparents
[dads side] lived on West Bar. Cheers.

Who were your grandparents ?

Are you an Anginotti ??

boozybird
Great site my grandfather and gt grandfather lived around West Bar at Copper St, Green Lane and futher out at Langsett Rd. We came over about 1875 as near as I can work out.
Dennis

Hi Dennis
glad you like the site keep logging in as I hope to keep adding to it as more things are uncovered. My grt grandparents settled in west bar from Italy, my grand mother was born & grew up in the area alongside her brothers,sisters,cousins etc. What was your granfathers name ? I am in touch with quite a few descendants from the italian families of west bar.
Julie

Am I right in thinking you are related to Angelo Cerrone ???

My Gt Gt Grandfather was called Angelo his wife was called Pasquale. Have you heard of them?

Dennis

Are you an Anginotti ??

Yes, Louis, younger brother of Judith and Marie.

Good job Boozy.bird
I could imagine Italians intent on getting to America, getting to England heading up the great north road, turning left at Newark, stopping in Sheffield, for a breather, or a bit of work before heading west over the pennines to Liverpool. As with all such migrations some would complete, others would stop on the way.
There was also a later influx of italians in the late 60s, coming to work at the Hallam towers, this group had a big influence on the Italian restaurants over the last 30 years.
The point you make about the immigrants, knowing each other before they came. We saw this again in the 60s when Irish workers came to England for construction jobs, arranging work for other family members, or men from their own village.
We are seeing it again now with Polish workers, bringing over their brothers, cousins or friends.
All adds to lifes rich tapestry.
When does the book come out?

About 1960 I had a pal who had just started work alongside his father doing Terrazzo and mosaic, his name was Saccommando (spelling) would they have been early immigrants or, as they weren't on your list, later perhaps WW11. I have another name going round in my head but can't think of it.

The Saccamando you mentioned that did terrazzo, & when are we talking about ? I know of a Antonio Saccomando then he had sons Edward, John, Andrew & Tony ring any bells ? Are you a decendant ?

Siren
yes I know of your family I believe they were godparents to some of my grt grandparents children !!

Yes, Louis, younger brother of Judith and Marie.

Hi Louis
thanks for logging in to the site,just feels good to have got it off the ground hopfully this is just the start.

Siren
yes I know of your family I believe they were godparents to some of my grt grandparents children !!

Do you have any further info re the Cerrone's. How do you know of them

Denns

Hi Boozy bird,
Yes i think it's a great site that will only get better. Leonard Frachetti who i think started it came down to Sheffield to get some information from my mother and sister. I hope he found it useful as my mum of 92 sometimes has difficulty remmembering what she did 2 days ago,yet go back to her childhood and beyond and she is superb.

Yes I did visit your mother when I came to Sheffield and I had a lot of useful information given me by your sister. However, I must make it clear that I did not start up this fabulous website. It is all the work of a former Sheffield lady 'boozy bird' . I have contributed in a small way to the site and hope to do more. We had a great meeting in Sheffield and the enthusiasm generated by the site has brought together a lot of good people anxious to make the Italian heritage of Sheffield well known and documented for posterity. We hope to have many more such meetings in the near future and hopefully, more descendants will be able to attend and let us have info about their relatives which will be great.
I did initially place an article for info in the Hallamshire Diocese News trying to track down the mosaic plaques made by my grandfather and other italians. This brought a prompt response from 'boozy bird' and it has taken off in a big way.
I hope we do receive more from the italian families from in the area although I appreciate that many people have moved on and many have died. It is just a shame that we didn't start this years ago.
If anyone out there has any info that might be relevant to the site please contact the site. Len.F.

Hi Boozy bird,
Yes i think it's a great site that will only get better. Leonard Frachetti who i think started it came down to Sheffield to get some information from my mother and sister. I hope he found it useful as my mum of 92 sometimes has difficulty remmembering what she did 2 days ago,yet go back to her childhood and beyond and she is superb.

The information supplied was of great use some photos have already been added to the site & others will be used in due course.
Just to clarify what Len F posted ..the website was my baby decieded to give it a go just after new year.Enlisted the help of Len for the Terrazzo piece & Vicki Willey(nee Rebori) for the Rebori Story.
Should other people want to submit pieces I am quite willing to consider posting them on the site.

Great site,nice to see a picture of the late Chic Rosso, such a nice man. I also knew Frank, Paul and Joanie, Anginotti from the Woodthorpe estate. I worked with the late Joe Pellogrina and his brothers Ernest, the other brothers name escapes me im afraid. Also Lol Saccomando who was also in the terrazo/tiling game, we all worked for Spina + Pascotts in the 70s early 80s. My dad used to hire a barrel organ for the weekend from the Cuneos i think back in the 30s. Keep up the good work.

Hi thanks for your message do you recognise any of the Terrazo workers in the photos ? I would love to be able to put names to them if you can helt let me know.
The Pelegrino brothers were Albert,Ernest.Fred & Joseph I believe there was also a Cousin called Vincent & possibly one called Domonico & also lots of grandsons. If you have any old photos of any of the old italians I would love to see them.

Forgot to ask are you from Italian background ??

Sorry having a blonde moment..... your grandma surname was Corea

Great site,nice to see a picture of the late Chic Rosso, such a nice man. I also knew Frank, Paul and Joanie, Anginotti from the Woodthorpe estate. I worked with the late Joe Pellogrina and his brothers Ernest, the other brothers name escapes me im afraid. Also Lol Saccomando who was also in the terrazo/tiling game, we all worked for Spina + Pascotts in the 70s early 80s. My dad used to hire a barrel organ for the weekend from the Cuneos i think back in the 30s. Keep up the good work.

Still awaiting to hear if you can identify any of the terrazo workers in the photos

My other half is a Ciccarella , grandaughter of the old Biase Ciccarella . The barber on Abbeydale road . His name is still on the shop , bt he sold it some time ago.

Hi, Have you any names or photos of the terrazzo and mosaic workers also any of the Barrel Organ nights. We would love to be able to show them on the website Len F.

Hello Sliver....I married into the Saccomando family in 1967 to Lawrence Saccomando's younger brother Paul. Lawrence did work for Spina & Pascott in late 1960.

I would be pleased to pass on any contact number/address from you if you wanted to be in touch with Lawrence.

R Saccomando

Hi Boozy.bird....just trying to join this forum as I married Andrew John Saccomando's son Paul in 1967.

The west-bar-italians.co.uk site is excellent but I was very surprised to see photographs of Andrew Saccomando taken during WW2. He was captured by the Germans in France and spent sometime in Stalag 8. Needless to say life was never to be the same again for my father-in-law after the war. He suffered with what is known today as post traumatic stress thereafter.

Also photographs of Andrew's older brother Edward, younger brother Tony and sister Doris. Could I ask if you know where these photographs came from. All these family members have now passed away.

Floxie

Hi Floxie
glad you liked the site....Thank you also for bringing the site to your brother in laws attention ( he phoned me this morning)
If you email me on my website www.west-bar-italians.co.uk I give you some more info about the photos. Look forward to hearing from you

This is to comfirm what as so far ( in a nice way ) been said about me, I started my working life back in 1960 for Spina and Pascott,working with Joe Spina, Ernest Pascott ,Chic Rosso ,Lol Rosso and many more terrazzo workers, my father Andrew was also there, as was my 2 uncles Ernest and Joe Pellegrino, after serving my time as a terrazzo layer I also had a few years working for Hodkin and Jones under Eric Stefanuti , all the years back to 1960 were good days as I learnt lot from the tradesmen that I worked with.If anyone would liked to contact me please do, so.

I would like to add my fathers name to the list of terrazoworkers at Hodkin and Jones. He was Enrico Del.Mistro. A lot of thhe names listed are familiar to me. Dad retired in 1965. He spent all his working life at Hodkin and Jones. I also knew a lot of the icecream makers and used to go with my father to visit them on Sundays.

Hello Rita or Emilia.
Yes I did know your father he is listed on the website www.west-bar-italians.co.uk
working for Hodkin & Jones. I have sent you a private email.
Len F.

Hi Maniago.
Just to add I do have a photo of Rita etc in the H & Jones air raid shelter on Queens road, W.W.2.
Len F.

Hi Maningo
Please contact me on the email address on the website
http://www.west-bar-italians.co.uk....... I have some people trying to contact you & also some info that may be of interest to you

I would like to add my fathers name to the list of terrazoworkers at Hodkin and Jones. He was Enrico Del.Mistro. A lot of thhe names listed are familiar to me. Dad retired in 1965. He spent all his working life at Hodkin and Jones. I also knew a lot of the icecream makers and used to go with my father to visit them on Sundays.

I knew the Del Mistro family very well. They lived on East Road as did I. Very friendly family. Lost touch when we all got married. Allthough for many years we walked down East Bank Road with Mrs DelMistro after Mass on a Sunday.

Hi Rita & Emelia; ptrA

Hello ptrA

Yes I am Rita. I thought you were abroad,When I spoke to tou last you were on holiday in Sheffield. Mother was a fit old lady up to a few years before she died May 2006 aged 96. Still live in Charnock but for not much longer downsizing keeping our fingers crossed. I had already made contact with Len through Italian descendants as a result going to an Italian reunion

Thank you for your regards mine to you and yours

Rita

I'm still looking for italian descendants Quagliozzi monfredi fantozzi Granelli Jessamino any name any italians........are you out there ???

hi there, my maiden name was ella louise pellegrina .i was born and bred in sheffield. always wondered where the italian name came from. now i know.

hi there, my maiden name was ella louise pellegrina .i was born and bred in sheffield. always wondered where the italian name came from. now i know.

hiya just logged on to this site and found it very interesting with the replies of where we all came from eg italians, and poles and the like i have written on another site of how lucky i suppose we got here as of me my paternal gt grandfather came from east anglia, grand father was born in boston lincs, my grandmother i don't know ,her parents were romanies, my maternal grandfather was scottish from larbut, my grandmother was from nottingham, my father was born in doncaster, my mother in nottingham.
i have just looked in my street atlas for 1894 and here are some italian ice cream makers of the time

john carboni 22 lambert st
antonio cassinelli 212 gibraltar st & 33west bar.
peter granelli sheaf market.
angelo molinari boston st.
joseph monfredi115 ecclesall rd &213 st philips rd
shopkeepers.
matto monfredi 186 infirmary rd
mrs annie cassinelli 24 smithfield.
antonio zanelli 177 don rd

ps have just read your letter related to the name fantozzi and i remember my dad mentioned the name from when he was small he lived around the bottom of st philips rd area around 1912/18.another name you mentioned was cuneo, they had a shop on division st, tony went to the same school as me although he was 4/5 years older than me.

Hi Wilybite
Checkout my website just google west bar italians

What a great resource you are creating !!!

I have done some research in to my Husbands family (or at least I started too but both his parents have now passed away) namely the Wild faimly, as you will gather it is painstaking.

In 1934, Albert Wild (father-in-laws brother) married Madeline Mocalina Bucciero, which is spelt slightly differently but thats whats the records say. I couldn't find any records of her birth so assumed she perhaps wasn't born here. After her marriage she was commonly known as Madge Wild ! what a shame to turn such a lovely name in to something so different. Don't know if her family may fit in anywhere.

As another poster stated there was an Anginotti family on the Woodthorpe, I remember Joan as she was close to me in age. In addition there was a Casannelli family (I remember Angela and John) and also a Cannetti family who all lived on the estate. Probably all useless information but your post/site provoked memories

Hi
I am aware of the Cassinelli.Canetti & Anginotti family you mentioned.
Re Madge wild I will do some digging and see what I can find. I have some Buccieri family info which may link in.

just want to say a big thankyou to everyone for supporting west bar italians website........merry christmas & happy new year

hi julie x only just read these posts they are very interesting never ceases to amaze me all of these decendents and all this information they have still workin on finding photos and more birth certificates marriage cert etc be in touch asap x
cimerelli decendent and pedley hayley hewitt x happy new year x

I've just been looking at http://www.ancoatslittleitaly.com

There is a lot of info on there regarding the Italian families. :) you might find it interesting. :)

Hi haylsjay, I do know Info of the Cierelli family Could you give me a phone call

Ask Julie for my number.

Len. F.

Hi i am related to the Cassinellis, My grandmothers maiden name was Cassinelli, Wonder if anyone can give me a hand filling in missing blanks, Her fathers name was Giovanni and her mothers name was Elizabeth Baxter. I would love to know more about my family tree,
Ciao,
Beth

my cousin married a serafini,from the killamarsh area,and,as kids,we knocked about with a family by the name of capancello,from the foxhill area

my cousin married a serafini,from the killamarsh area,and,as kids,we knocked about with a family by the name of capancello,from the foxhill area

Hi do you know much about the serafini family

Hi do you know much about the serafini familythey live in the killamarsh area,dads called alfio,sons marco and carlo,daughter donna,thats all i can tell you.

Hi haylsjay, I do know Info of the Cierelli family Could you give me a phone call

Ask Julie for my number.

Len. F.

HI Len i will ask julie for your number i will give u a call ive already given julie copys of giovanni birth certificate and marriage cetificate but i have come unstuck on the finer details surrounding giovanni s dad that obviously could have something to do with them being born in italy and abit untraceable
thanks hayley x

hi there, my maiden name was ella louise pellegrina .i was born and bred in sheffield. always wondered where the italian name came from. now i know.

My Grandmothers maiden name was Pellegrina. Whats your parents/grandparents names? I know about six generations of the Pellegrina family.

My Grandmothers maiden name was Pellegrina. Whats your parents/grandparents names? I know about six generations of the Pellegrina family.

Your grandparents were distant cousins

HI Len i will ask julie for your number i will give u a call ive already given julie copys of giovanni birth certificate and marriage cetificate but i have come unstuck on the finer details surrounding giovanni s dad that obviously could have something to do with them being born in italy and abit untraceable
thanks hayley x

Hi Hayley. I do have info on Giovanni's father and his family, you still have family members still living in Italy.
Len F.

Anyone have any photographs of Terrazzo & Mosaic workers, or names of them ?
Or any photographs of work done by these workers who lived in Sheffield.
Len F.