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poimaster 24-06-2005, 13:03 I had my upper and lower wisdom teeth on my left side taken out 2 days ago and was given some antibiotics to take (metronidazole).
The problem is that I'm going on holiday for 3 days on Saturday and it would be nice to be able to drink but i definitely cant do this while im on the tablets (says so in the info).
I am not in any pain and am able to clean my teeth easilly so i reckon the chances of getting an infection are pretty slim as saliva is naturally antiseptic (isn't it??).
So....should I bin the antibiotics and enjoy my holiday fully or should i be a good boy and do as im told?
Yeah go and have fun....swilling alcohol will also keep the wounds clean....:thumbsup:
benclements2 24-06-2005, 13:19 You're prob not in pain because of the pain killers working!
Wouldn't normally recommend that anyone doesn't take medication as prescribed, but if alcohol is the substitute, then I'm all for it!!
If you're in pain, drink more!
But on the gloomier side..... spend entire holiday in emmense pain and pay a small fortune to dodgy overseas doctor after infection sets in wound.
But saying that the infection would probably come within the first couple of days whilst the wounds raw and open. swilling with salt water was the advise I got from the dentist after having mine pulled, never got antibiotics
benclements2 24-06-2005, 13:21 Originally posted by honeyplanet
But on the gloomier side..... spend entire holiday in emmense pain and pay a small fortune to dodgy overseas doctor after infection sets in wound.
But saying that the infection would probably come within the first couple of days whilst the wounds raw and open. swilling with salt water was the advise I got from the dentist after having mine pulled, never got antibiotics
Salt + Alcohol = Tequila Slammers!!!
I always thought salt and alcohol was 10 pints and a fish and chip supper.
benclements2 24-06-2005, 13:36 Originally posted by EyeSpy
I always thought salt and alcohol was 10 pints and a fish and chip supper.
Yeah I'm with ya on that. Although my particular favourite would be to have perhaps 12 pints and a salty donner keeebab with all the traditional trimmings.
I prefer a badly packed kebab after a night on the ale.
benclements2 24-06-2005, 13:41 Chilli Sauce? Garlic Sauce? Salad?
No sauce just a nice badly packed kebab. Let it all hang out
Or a nice and hot curry. Nothing like a bit of ring sting in the morning.
benclements2 24-06-2005, 13:51 Argh, Chicken Jalfrazi, Pilau Rice, Keema Naan, couple of pops and a pickle tray. washed down with several choice indian ales, Kingfisher or Cobra being my favourites!
muddycoffee 24-06-2005, 13:55 Don't stop the course of antibiotics early, If you don't complete the course fully you may become immune to them. Which means when you get drunk on holiday (maybe next year) and cut yourself on some glass or something and you get an infection, you may be in some serious trouble, if the Antibiotics don't work that time.
My mate stood on a sea urchin on a foreign beach and some of the spikes went right into his foot, his leg and foot was a right swollen mess a few days later, sorted out back in England with antibiotics and tweezers.
Mixing antibiotics with alcohol, in the last 3 years I have been on Antibiotics 2ce and both times I asked the Doctor if I could drink alcohol, and they said it will be absolutely fine, and It was. Ok there are many different types and brands of antibiotics. But if you go steady and don't drink 10 pints on the first night, you can see how you feel.
Clockedit 24-06-2005, 14:44 Originally posted by muddycoffee
Don't stop the course of antibiotics early, If you don't complete the course fully you may become immune to them. Which means when you get drunk on holiday (maybe next year) and cut yourself on some glass or something and you get an infection, you may be in some serious trouble, if the Antibiotics don't work that time.
My mate stood on a sea urchin on a foreign beach and some of the spikes went right into his foot, his leg and foot was a right swollen mess a few days later, sorted out back in England with antibiotics and tweezers.
Mixing antibiotics with alcohol, in the last 3 years I have been on Antibiotics 2ce and both times I asked the Doctor if I could drink alcohol, and they said it will be absolutely fine, and It was. Ok there are many different types and brands of antibiotics. But if you go steady and don't drink 10 pints on the first night, you can see how you feel.
Boring!!!:(
slimsid2000 24-06-2005, 14:46 You should always finish a course of tablets or the problem may reoccur. Also, don't drink while on the medication.
I generally ignore medical advice and drink while on antibiotics. It's never done me any harm! I think it's only penacillin that makes you puke anyway!
BruciesBabe 24-06-2005, 15:21 Having just had the same procedure done and not been given the antibiotics, I now have an infection and am due to go on them - I currently have a bit of impregnated gauze shoved down one of the holes and it hurts like hell and tastes deadfull! - trying to clean it apparently!
Stay on the antibiotics - trust me, the pain caused by the holes and the infection is worse than any pain having the wisdom teeth gave u!
Have a good holiday too.
x
poimaster 24-06-2005, 16:14 Slimsid2000 quote
"You should always finish a course of tablets or the problem may reoccur. Also, don't drink while on the medication."
I should finish the antibiotics so the dentist doesn't pull my wisdom teeth out again??? Not sure if the tablets are gonna be able to do that!
Thanks for the advice everyone....think im gonna ditch the tablets before the holiday. I was gonna do that anyway, i just wanted someone else to say it was a good idea so i had someone to blame if it all goes wrong and my face swells to the size of a pumpkin!
People being irresponsible and taking uninformed choices to stop taking their antibiotics before the end of the course are half the reason we have superbugs like MRSA.
When you do not finish your course of antibiotic it makes the bugs in your body stronger, you are in fact sort of vaccinating them and making them immune to the next course of antibiotics that you may need if you are seriously ill.
hazel
The mouth is the most germ infested place in the whole body!
If you don't want to take that particular type of anti-biotic because you can't drink, why not ask the Dentist/pharmacist for a different type of anti-biotic which will not be affected by the drink?
I think there's only one or two types of anti-biotic where you can't drink and these are the strongest one's. So either, don't start them until you get back or change the prescription.
If you start them then stop them you're doing more harm than good in the long run, it would be better to just delay starting them until after your holiday and then take the full dose.
Whatever you decide to do, have a fun holiday. :thumbsup:
Don_Kiddick 25-06-2005, 05:55 Originally posted by Twiglet
People being irresponsible and taking uninformed choices to stop taking their antibiotics before the end of the course are half the reason we have superbugs like MRSA.
Absolutely spot on Twiglet :thumbsup:
It's because of these Tetley Doctors that we do have superbugs.
Scenario:
Scene: Sometime within past 20 yrs.
Plonker catches a cold. Demands antibiotics off GP.
GP issues despite advising that they won't work against viruses - but needs to get rid of plonker in order to get through rest of day/ life.
Plonker gets free prescriptions anyway so no skin off his/her nose.
Plonker starts taking antibi's for a day or 2, but meets a senior consultant Tetley Doctor who says "Ya can't drink wi them! get shut of em"!
So the bugs that live in everyone's throat and skin, like staphylococcus aureus (THE S IN MRSA) becomes stronger as a result of not being killed. It changes it's genetic shell to protect itself - 'cause bacteria are good at that)
Next time plonker passes those bacteria on, and they will, that next person could be YOU or your kids that become carriers or victims of MRSA (http://www.link.med.ed.ac.uk/RIDU/Mrsa.htm#one)
METRONIDAZOLE information (http://www.drugs.com/metronidazole.html) that may help.
Worse still is when some plonker gives another plonker half a course of their antibi's cos they don't want them anymore so second plonker starts taking a specific drug for a non specific or even inappropriate illness - I've know that happen too :roll:
A N Y W A Y Just think this is but one holiday in your lifetime; do you want to leave a superbug legacy for mankind after you are gone & forgotten?
Why did the Buddhist refuse painkillers when he went to the dentist?
He wanted to transcend dental medication...........
dirtybristow 26-06-2005, 09:37 Originally posted by Clockedit
Boring!!!:(
This is part of the reason we have antibiotic resistant organisms causing problems in hospitals all over the country.
Why do you think that you know more about medicines and illness than Doctors, pharmacists and nurses who have gone to college for several years, taken specialist training after that and have to follow very strict codes of practice?
Stopping a course of antibiotics leads to resistant strains because if you take a three-day course, on day one the weedy bacteria die (think of pee wee herman), on day two the normal bacteria die (think of tom hanks) but on day three you feel OK, you stop taking the drugs and the bacteria that are left are the ones that are well-hard (think of ray liotta). You've exposed them to anti-biotics and they "learn" how to survive in the presence of that drug. Then they multiply, passing what they have learned on to their offspring. It's a very rapid evolution and what we have is a master race of bacteria who are all as hard as nails.
So always finish a course of anti-biotics, don't drink if it says not to drink because that reduces the efficacy of the drug and don't think that health professionals tell people not to do stuff because we're "boring!!!", that's just childish.
And JBee, you're wrong, making statements like that is misleading and dangerous, you're like a kid who'll say anything rather than admit to not knowing something.
poimaster 03-07-2005, 14:56 Thanks a lot for all the advice peeps! As it turns out i did take 2 days of the antibiotics then stopped and I wish i hadnt now!
Im not usually a bit drinker but it was my friend's birthday while we were away and i though we woul get lashed! Ended up having a few beers then stoped...didnt even get tiddilly! (well, we were in Amsterdam! Lots of better things to do than drink there!)
I do feel throughly ashamed of the fact that i dint finish the antibiotics....i appologise to anyone who catches MRSA as a result of my stoopidity!!
lol
If its any consolation....i wont do it again! lesson learned.
I had evil tooth ache once i got home. All better now thou!
On with the party!!!
ps. Ive gotta agree with mr.bristow on his last point....would never mix anti-biotics & booze...done that before and its not nice! But gotta give JBee credit for his sig thou! Classic!
Originally posted by SHarper
Why did the Buddhist refuse painkillers when he went to the dentist?
He wanted to transcend dental medication...........
Excellent :D
Someone will correct me on here, But i was told there's only 2 types of antibiotics that you can't/shouldn't drink whilst on them?, all the others are ok.
Metronidazole was designed as a drug to be given to alcoholics to get them off the booze - it makes you very sick when you mix the two.
All other antibiotics are fine to drink with.
For wisdom tooth problems metro is the best choice but your dentist would have offered you amoxycillin/erythromycin as an alternative had you told him/her I am sure.
Why trust a dentist to remove your tooth then not trust their judgement that in your case you needed antibiotics?
Silly boy!!!!
Originally posted by dirtybristow
This is part of the reason we have antibiotic resistant organisms causing problems in hospitals all over the country.
Totally agree with you!
I was a dental nurse and now studying to be a different kind of health professional.. but i would not drink with any antibiotic just to be on the safe side.
You will be extremely ill if you drink whilst taking flagyl.. just don't do it!
Do you know.. it really is the fault of the NHS.. if you had had to pay for those.. and I don't just mean your perscription charge... then you would probably be more likely to take them!!
They could save the life of someone less fortunate than you and you are prepared to waste them.
p.s don't rinse the socket out.. you will get a condition called dry socket and that is more painful.. but hey why listen to anyone who knows what they are talking about...
janineoxley 03-08-2005, 18:02 I'm a Dental Nurse in Sheffield, have been for over 13 years!.. Metronidazole is not an antibiotic that you can drink ANY alcohol with!.. If you have even half a pint, you will be violently sick!.and believe me, I DO MEAN VIOLENTLY!. As well as it being used as a common antibiotic, it is also prescried to alcoholics, therefor, if they fall back and have a drink, the effects are so shocking that it makes them not want to do it again!!... now tell me that you will be ok on them if you take it steady with a couple of drinks!..NOT A GOOD IDEA! :gag:
BoroughGal 03-08-2005, 18:21 Here's what my mum told me.... and as you can tell, she's not in medicine for a living.... but it's easy for me to understand! I'm not saying it's strictly true either but it gives you an idea....
The antibiotics kill off the small bugs first, then if you stop taking them, it leaves the big ones to breed so you get a worse dose of whatever you've had. Good eh?
And I agree with someone earlier - anitbiotics are generally ok to drink on (ask the doctor) but the dental ones are lethal to mix with alcohol. It will make you feel PROPERLY ill & sick.
So. Keep on taking them and don't drink on holiday - booooring!
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