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kirky
22-06-2005, 07:42
apparently she "lured" a 15 year old boy from the class room to her bed....poor lad bet he was traumatised :smile:

youwhatref
22-06-2005, 07:50
I know bless him. Having to bed his teacher who he probably fancied anyway must be such a bad experience for him!!

There's another case on the go now with a 24y/o teacher (nice looking teacher too! :lol: ) who seduced a 15 y/o lad.

I understand that teachers have limits but why didn't it happen to me?? They have sex education in school and what a great way to get it across! :hihi:

I can only guess the £ signs are in the mothers eyes!

JonJParr
22-06-2005, 07:52
Originally posted by kirky
apparently she "lured" a 15 year old boy from the class room to her bed....poor lad bet he was traumatised :smile:

I bet he got an "A".

owdlad
22-06-2005, 07:56
Originally posted by JonJParr
I bet he got an "A".

Keep it clean Jon ;)

Resist resist resist the temptaion to go down the same route.. :D

Hopman
22-06-2005, 08:14
Ee, when I were at school, we had Ooh and Ah levels.

owdlad
22-06-2005, 08:47
Originally posted by Hopman
Ee, when I were at school, we had Ooh and Ah levels.

When I was at School we were caned for trying it on with any of the teachers..... and for the record I never did, and never was. :D

viking
22-06-2005, 08:52
Originally posted by owdlad
When I was at School we were caned for trying it on with any of the teachers..... and for the record I never did, and never was. :D
I was caned at school, and as you can tell by my postings, It never did me any harm. :suspect: :suspect:

metalman
22-06-2005, 09:12
Of course, if it was a male teacher who'd seduced your 15 year old daughter, you'd be queuing up to rip his head off, but never mind...

kirky
22-06-2005, 09:25
Originally posted by metalman
Of course, if it was a male teacher who'd seduced your 15 year old daughter, you'd be queuing up to rip his head off, but never mind...

people living in the lost tribes of outa mongolia just "NEW" that someone was gonna say that.....:rolleyes:

chickmonk
22-06-2005, 10:05
Does seem to be a lot of these 'female teacher beds male pupil' stories about at the mo. Is it a new (media) craze?

BertieBasset
22-06-2005, 10:26
apparently she just wanted filling in on what his intentions were...:heyhey:

kirky
22-06-2005, 10:28
Originally posted by chickmonk
Does seem to be a lot of these 'female teacher beds male pupil' stories about at the mo. Is it a new (media) craze?

suppose they'll have a stupid name for it soon...summat like "schoolgate"

igm1
22-06-2005, 10:37
Originally posted by Hopman
Ee, when I were at school, we had Ooh and Ah levels.

lol that's terrible!

KookyKoo
22-06-2005, 14:27
Does anyone remember being 15? It would have been pretty hard for me to be "lured" into anything, most of my peers by that age were quite headstrong. And if my memory serves me correctly, most 15 year old boys were desperate to get their ends away, and most of my male friends had at least one teacher they perved over. Unless a lot has changed in 7 years???

kirky
22-06-2005, 14:47
Originally posted by KookyKoo
Does anyone remember being 15? It would have been pretty hard for me to be "lured" into anything, most of my peers by that age were quite headstrong. And if my memory serves me correctly, most 15 year old boys were desperate to get their ends away, and most of my male friends had at least one teacher they perved over. Unless a lot has changed in 7 years???

thats what i was getting at:rolleyes:

kirky
22-06-2005, 15:02
12 month suspenders sentance ..just heard it on the news,the lad will be pleased:thumbsup:

Siān
22-06-2005, 15:09
Originally posted by KookyKoo
Does anyone remember being 15? It would have been pretty hard for me to be "lured" into anything, most of my peers by that age were quite headstrong. And if my memory serves me correctly, most 15 year old boys were desperate to get their ends away, and most of my male friends had at least one teacher they perved over. Unless a lot has changed in 7 years???

It's a common misconception that if someone's not physically forced then it's not abuse. Many paedophiles lead their victims to believe they've given consent but being sexually aroused doesn't constitute consent & doesn't mean abuse hasn't taken place. Infact it could be argued from what you've said that a 15 year old lad would be more vunerable & open to abuse. If the teacher in question used the fantasies you mentioned to persuade the boy to sleep with her then that's abuse.

kirky
22-06-2005, 15:23
Originally posted by Siān
It's a common misconception that if someone's not physically forced then it's not abuse. Many paedophiles lead their victims to believe they've given consent but being sexually aroused doesn't constitute consent & doesn't mean abuse hasn't taken place. Infact it could be argued from what you've said that a 15 year old lad would be more vunerable & open to abuse. If the teacher in question used the fantasies you mentioned to persuade the boy to sleep with her then that's abuse.

please may i be abused:D

Dj_Shadowman
22-06-2005, 15:35
Originally posted by kirky
please may i be abused:D

Working where you do, dont you get abused all the time :D

kirky
22-06-2005, 15:37
Originally posted by Dj_Shadowman
Working where you do, dont you get abused all the time :D

no because i'm wellard' i am..oh and the place has 2 big doormen:D

owdlad
22-06-2005, 15:48
Originally posted by kirky
no because i'm wellard' i am..oh and the place has 2 big doormen:D

Wasn't Wellard that dog's name on deadenders?

I rest my case :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

Cyclone
22-06-2005, 15:55
Originally posted by Siān
It's a common misconception that if someone's not physically forced then it's not abuse. Many paedophiles lead their victims to believe they've given consent but being sexually aroused doesn't constitute consent & doesn't mean abuse hasn't taken place. Infact it could be argued from what you've said that a 15 year old lad would be more vunerable & open to abuse. If the teacher in question used the fantasies you mentioned to persuade the boy to sleep with her then that's abuse.

yep that's right, at the age of 15 and 364 days it's abuse and somehow magically overnight you become capable of consenting.

Unless you live in Holland when it happens 2 years earlier, or other countries where it happens later.

And we should probably be clear on the story, they did not have sex, apparently they "kissed with open mouths" 3 times in 1 week! Wow, she should be put on the sex offenders register. I mean, she's 24, 9 years older than him, who knows what her plans were for him later (she did promise him sex after his 16th birthday).

terrano
22-06-2005, 15:57
i say good on her - i wish the likes of were around when i was at school
forget all this crap about abuse - he loved it and so would any bloke

BertieBasset
22-06-2005, 16:03
maybe if she was asked nicely she'd do some private tuition...:heyhey:

redrobbo
22-06-2005, 16:14
A teacher should not have intimate relations with an under-age pupil. It is a betrayal of trust, and an abuse of authority and pastoral responsibility, regardless of the gender of the teacher and the pupil concerned.

I understand the humour kirky, but there is also a serious side to this case. If the teacher had been a man, and the pupil a girl - would you still be giving your tacit approval? What if both teacher and pupil and been male, or both female - would you still be adopting a thumbs-up, nudge-nudge, wink-wink attitude?

What would be your attitude if the pupil had been one year younger, or maybe two or three years younger? Where's your cut-off point between sexual exploration and sexual abuse? What if the teacher had been not 9 years older, but 39 years older? Would that make a difference in your thinking?

I'm curious to know your views, and hope you will engage in a serious discussion.

Red

drolnhoj
22-06-2005, 16:18
At my old school it was the Lolipop lady who seduced a number of the kids. I don't know if she gave them lolipops.

Twiglet
22-06-2005, 16:20
Originally posted by Cyclone

And we should probably be clear on the story, they did not have sex, apparently they "kissed with open mouths" 3 times in 1 week! Wow, she should be put on the sex offenders register. I mean, she's 24, 9 years older than him, who knows what her plans were for him later (she did promise him sex after his 16th birthday).

The case the thread was started about involved a teacher who admitted having sex with a pupil, who has been sentenced.

The trial of the teacher who 'allegedly' kissed a pupil three times in one week has been called off today. The jury have been discharged for 'legal reasons' and the trial will restart at a later date.

Confusing!

SheffieldSean
22-06-2005, 16:22
Originally posted by redrobbo
A teacher should not have intimate relations with an under-age pupil. It is a betrayal of trust, and an abuse of authority and pastoral responsibility, regardless of the gender of the teacher and the pupil concerned.

I understand the humour kirky, but there is also a serious side to this case. If the teacher had been a man, and the pupil a girl - would you still be giving your tacit approval? What if both teacher and pupil and been male, or both female - would you still be adopting a thumbs-up, nudge-nudge, wink-wink attitude?

What would be your attitude if the pupil had been one year younger, or maybe two or three years younger? Where's your cut-off point between sexual exploration and sexual abuse? What if the teacher had been not 9 years older, but 39 years older? Would that make a difference in your thinking?

I'm curious to know your views, and hope you will engage in a serious discussion.

Red

Absolutely correct. She should have walked away and sought advice from a colleague. Teachers are meant to teach, but not teach like this! ;)

We wouldn't be indulging in this fest of mutual backslapping if the pupil had been female and the teacher male. I doubt I'd feel much different if he had been 15 years and 364 days and technically a day later it was legal. She should have known better and has paid a very high price for her foolish misjudgement.

Cyclone
22-06-2005, 16:23
the big issue is that she's a teacher, were she someone he'd met in a pub it would probably be of far less interest.

I do think that we blow these things entirely out of proportion though, were it two 15 year olds (it's still statuatory rape) it wouldn't be in the news and nothing would be done about it.

I had a friend who started seeing a teacher whilst in the 6th form, they are now married and have a child. Was it an abuse of his power to go out with a student (over 16 obvisouly in the 6th form).

SheffieldSean
22-06-2005, 16:23
Originally posted by Twiglet
The case the thread was started about involved a teacher who admitted having sex with a pupil, who has been sentenced.

The trial of the teacher who 'allegedly' kissed a pupil three times in one week has been called off today. The jury have been discharged for 'legal reasons' and the trial will restart at a later date.

Confusing!

Ah, now I am confused! :confused:

Cyclone
22-06-2005, 16:23
Originally posted by Twiglet
The case the thread was started about involved a teacher who admitted having sex with a pupil, who has been sentenced.

The trial of the teacher who 'allegedly' kissed a pupil three times in one week has been called off today. The jury have been discharged for 'legal reasons' and the trial will restart at a later date.

Confusing!

my mistake, I assumed it was the same one and that chinese whispers had exaggerated it.

Twiglet
22-06-2005, 16:31
Here we go (this might clear things up a little, or it might just make it worse!)

Case 1 (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire/4120574.stm)

Case 2 (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bradford/4119142.stm)

Funny how there's 2 similar cases, the teachers and pupils are both the same ages and the teachers are both from Sheffield? :confused:

Siān
22-06-2005, 16:44
Originally posted by Cyclone
the big issue is that she's a teacher, were she someone he'd met in a pub it would probably be of far less interest.

I do think that we blow these things entirely out of proportion though, were it two 15 year olds (it's still statuatory rape) it wouldn't be in the news and nothing would be done about it.


If they'd both been 15 then one wouldn't have been exploiting her position/ experience. It's not the sex that's the issue it's the abuse

I had a friend who started seeing a teacher whilst in the 6th form, they are now married and have a child. Was it an abuse of his power to go out with a student (over 16 obvisouly in the 6th form).

Yes - I realise that these things do happen but as a teacher you are in loco parentis & have a duty to act accordingly. It maybe legal but it's unprofessional.

KookyKoo
22-06-2005, 16:49
Thanks Cyclone, good to know I'm not the only one who's been involved in a relationship with a teacher. FYI, I've been there, it started when I was 15 years and 356 days old (no joke). I do not feel abused in the slightest, I came out the other side as unscathed as all my other friends who have had "conventional" relationships end, indeed less in some cases. He was significantly older than me. I totally consented to everything that went on between us, indeed I admit I instigated some of it. Think of me what you will but it's important to recognise that at 15, you have an understanding of how things work and you are aware of possible consequences of your actions.

kirky
22-06-2005, 16:57
Originally posted by redrobbo
A teacher should not have intimate relations with an under-age pupil. It is a betrayal of trust, and an abuse of authority and pastoral responsibility, regardless of the gender of the teacher and the pupil concerned.

I understand the humour kirky, but there is also a serious side to this case. If the teacher had been a man, and the pupil a girl - would you still be giving your tacit approval? What if both teacher and pupil and been male, or both female - would you still be adopting a thumbs-up, nudge-nudge, wink-wink attitude?

What would be your attitude if the pupil had been one year younger, or maybe two or three years younger? Where's your cut-off point between sexual exploration and sexual abuse? What if the teacher had been not 9 years older, but 39 years older? Would that make a difference in your thinking?

I'm curious to know your views, and hope you will engage in a serious discussion.

Red

i'm not saying its right i was just stating that the lad will have been far from traumatised and now probably as hero status among his mates..15 year old lad don't forget,hardly abuse

robbie
22-06-2005, 17:45
Teacher who seduced boy walks free

A teacher who seduced a 15-year-old schoolboy and started a relationship with him behind her boyfriend's back walked free from court today.

Nicola Prentice, 25, from Sheffield, flirted with pupil Dean Dainty and sent sexy text messages to him before luring him to out-of-school dance lessons and visits to the pub.

They embarked on a 19-month relationship which ended when Prentice became tired of the teenager's emotional demands after he left school and insisted that she leave her boyfriend.

Prentice, of Loughton, pleaded guilty to two counts of abusing her position of trust by mutual touching and sexual intercourse with the boy and was given a 12-month suspended sentence by a judge at Leicester Crown Court.

Prentice, who will never teach again and will have to sign the sex offenders' register for 10 years, wept uncontrollably in the dock as she was sentenced.

Judge Michael Stokes QC, sentencing, said that the complainant, now 19, had made it quite clear that he did not want her to go to jail. He said he also believed she had suffered enough after Mr Dainty approached newspapers with his story.

He said: "It has to be appreciated that anyone who is in a position of trust, like a teacher, must not have sexual relations of any kind with a pupil under the age of 18. Just think of the trouble and heartache you could have avoided if you had used your common sense and maintained your position as a teacher with this young man.

"I don't want it to be thought in any quarter that a woman can expect to be treated any more leniently than a man. I am not going to send you to prison because I feel that what you have been through has been substantial punishment and the circumstances of your offending, while serious and meriting a custodial sentence, are exceptional.

"I suspect from all I have read about Dean Dainty that he would be mortified if he had felt he had caused you to go to prison."

Prentice, who was 22 and in her first teaching job in north Nottinghamshire when the relationship started, left court with her boyfriend following the hearing and made no comment to the waiting media.

from yahoo.

hj dary
22-06-2005, 18:50
Originally posted by robbie
Teacher who seduced boy walks free

Prentice, of Loughton..................

from yahoo.

Yahoo got it wrong, she's from Laughton. Apparently she lives on our street some where, but I'm not sure who she is.

I only point this out as its the most intresting thing that has happened here for a year or two.

ttfn

Cyclone
22-06-2005, 19:05
it could be an amazing coincidence but I remember a nicola prentice from school. Have to check out friends reunited...
not showing anyone by that name, i'll have to speak to my brother and see if the name jogs his memory.

I'm from anston, so laughton would have put at the same school as me, but in my brothers year.

Originally posted by robbie
Teacher who seduced boy walks free

A teacher who seduced a 15-year-old schoolboy and started a relationship with him behind her boyfriend's back walked free from court today.

Nicola Prentice, 25, from Sheffield, flirted with pupil Dean Dainty and sent sexy text messages to him before luring him to out-of-school dance lessons and visits to the pub.

They embarked on a 19-month relationship which ended when Prentice became tired of the teenager's emotional demands after he left school and insisted that she leave her boyfriend.

Prentice, of Loughton, pleaded guilty to two counts of abusing her position of trust by mutual touching and sexual intercourse with the boy and was given a 12-month suspended sentence by a judge at Leicester Crown Court.

Prentice, who will never teach again and will have to sign the sex offenders' register for 10 years, wept uncontrollably in the dock as she was sentenced.

Judge Michael Stokes QC, sentencing, said that the complainant, now 19, had made it quite clear that he did not want her to go to jail. He said he also believed she had suffered enough after Mr Dainty approached newspapers with his story.

He said: "It has to be appreciated that anyone who is in a position of trust, like a teacher, must not have sexual relations of any kind with a pupil under the age of 18. Just think of the trouble and heartache you could have avoided if you had used your common sense and maintained your position as a teacher with this young man.

"I don't want it to be thought in any quarter that a woman can expect to be treated any more leniently than a man. I am not going to send you to prison because I feel that what you have been through has been substantial punishment and the circumstances of your offending, while serious and meriting a custodial sentence, are exceptional.

"I suspect from all I have read about Dean Dainty that he would be mortified if he had felt he had caused you to go to prison."

Prentice, who was 22 and in her first teaching job in north Nottinghamshire when the relationship started, left court with her boyfriend following the hearing and made no comment to the waiting media.

from yahoo.

Jess
22-06-2005, 20:08
Not only was it wrong for a teacher to seduce a 15 year old, it was also very stupid. Did she really believe that she wouldn't be found out? No, what she did was wrong. A person in a place of trust deserves to lose his/her job when that trust is abused.

speenie
22-06-2005, 20:23
Well young DEan Dainty really was traumatised wasn't he, going to the News of THe World to 'seek help' 2 years after the event.... THis girl has had her life on hold to go through all of this, for a scally to earn afew extra quid telling his story.

Lickszz
22-06-2005, 23:44
There are two ages of consent in this country. 16 is the normal age of consent, however, if you are in a 'position of trust' towards a youngster it is raised to 18. This includes teachers, care workers, social workers, foster parents etc.

I'm not 100% sure when it ends though. When a person has left school at 16, I don't know whether the law still applies until they are 18 for teachers at that school or whether it ends as soon as the position of responsibility ends.

Rather bizarrely, you can still marry the 16/17 year old in your trust and then have sex with them legally.

ANGELUS
22-06-2005, 23:46
If a decent looking teacher came on to me when I was 15, I'd be absolutely chuffed as punch.

Deep down, ask yourselves this- there will be one teacher be it male or female in your school lives where you think.. god they are a bit of alright.

You would, wouldnt you, if you had the chance.. and I certainly would have.. and I wouldnt have blabbed about it to my parents and the national press thats for sure.

redrobbo
22-06-2005, 23:50
Originally posted by kirky
i'm not saying its right i was just stating that the lad will have been far from traumatised and now probably as hero status among his mates..15 year old lad don't forget,hardly abuse

Thanks for your explanation kirky. Sorry for any misunderstanding on my part.

Red

youwhatref
23-06-2005, 05:53
Originally posted by kirky
i'm not saying its right i was just stating that the lad will have been far from traumatised and now probably as hero status among his mates..15 year old lad don't forget,hardly abuse

Kirky is right, the lad will be chuffed. His next gf will have a bf with more experience and he's been paid (what it's all about) for his story.

I also agree that had it been the other way round it would have been a different story.

I wish Nicola Prentice would have been my sex A.Prentice at school (Sorry! :lol: )

hj dary
23-06-2005, 06:05
She is the talk of the village at the minute. See, I said nothing ever happens around here.

The last bit of exitement we had was when the bloke from Asda got his delivery van stuck up the alley.

Anyhoo back to the point.

Up to now everybloke I've spoke to about this has said that when they were at school if a teacher had come on to them they would have though it was great and without a shadow of a doubt they would have slept with the teacher.

Thats what teenage lads are like. He'll not have been complaining at the time he was in her bed.

In one of the earlier post someone said he has sold his story to a paper, and that is just wrong.

He's had his way with her, then dropped her in it, lost the woman her job, had her took to court then gets money from the papers....na, its not on.

Like I said before, I dont know who she is but hope she's ok, I feel a bit sorry for her really.

youwhatref
23-06-2005, 06:10
Originally posted by hj dary

The last bit of exitement we had was when the bloke from Asda got his delivery van stuck up the alley.

.

Ouch! Hope he wasn't too embarrassed at the hospital! :lol:

Don_Kiddick
23-06-2005, 06:17
She's abit of a minger (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1664918,00.html) :hihi: IMO;)

Greenback
23-06-2005, 07:28
Quote from the lad in the paper:

"I was young and naive and thought I was living every schoolboy’s fantasy but it turned into a living hell."

1. I don't believe you, son.

2. If you really said that, I'll eat me hat!

Abdul
23-06-2005, 08:10
Originally posted by Don_Kiddick
She's abit of a minger (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1664918,00.html) :hihi: IMO;)

Look at it from the lads view, please:

Big curvy northern lass, bleached blonde, tan of some sort...every 15-year old schoolboys dream

I think you're just jealous :D

joyphil
23-06-2005, 09:52
Maybe it's just that these cases are more reported nowadays, rather than the actual incidence of lady teachers giving biology practicals being higher than of yore. In fact, if one were to re-read Jennings etc, wasn't the school nurse always a slightly 'enigmatic' figure in the boys' eyes? Frankly it would have been great to be in this position, as it were, back in those frustrated, stiff-socked years of middle teendom. I went to an all-boys school with a pretty much all-male staff. None of whom I fancied remotely. The only ladies in the building was the librarian and secretary, and they were my mates' mums.

Still, there was a girls' school next door, the denizens of which kept us entertained and, erm, educated throughout our formative years. Hurrah!

robbie
23-06-2005, 18:16
Originally posted by Don_Kiddick
She's abit of a minger (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1664918,00.html) :hihi: IMO;)

hardly if you were a 15 year old kid and she was your teacher.

Don_Kiddick
23-06-2005, 23:33
Originally posted by Abdul
Look at it from the lads view, please:

Big curvy northern lass, bleached blonde, tan of some sort...every 15-year old schoolboys dream

I think you're just jealous :D
Curvey? :hihi: like an East German Shot putter? :hihi: ;)

Abdul
24-06-2005, 00:00
Originally posted by Don_Kiddick
Curvey? :hihi: like an East German Shot putter? :hihi: ;)

Voluptuous is the word I'm looking for :D

I reckon all this interest may be a step towards a TV career on Sky or Channel 5 , seeing as she's blonde, curvy, not bad looking and obviously up for it.

Teacher's sex shame (http://www.worksoptoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=741&ArticleID=1045522)

Seduction teacher avoids prison (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/nottinghamshire/4120574.stm)

luckylotti
25-06-2005, 20:42
I think its disgraceful

I have a friend who's son was flirted with and she made suggestive comments to him and fellow mates. She never got caught. Still teaches ** @ sheffield school. (wish i could say)
He left now. Thing is, he didn;t seem to mind, maybe hormonal teenagers but doesn;t make it right for teachers to exploit them,makes me sick.

scootguest
26-06-2005, 01:02
I understand that teachers have limits but why didn't it happen to me?? They have sex education in school and what a great way to get it across!

bringing a new form of practical lessons for teens!

redpower
26-06-2005, 01:15
Hey, I am a teacher and I teach 15 year old girls. I think some of them of are mighty fine and I want to let them know this. Of course I cannot penetrate them until they 16 but I can wait. Of course they are full of hormones and so will be grateful for the attention.


Make you queasy? It should

If this had been a 24 year old male teacher seducing a 15 year old girl the papers and many here would have been demanding his castration.

Why the double standards folks?

tulip
26-06-2005, 04:18
Originally posted by luckylotti
I think its disgraceful

I have a friend who's son was flirted with and she made suggestive comments to him and fellow mates. She never got caught. Still teaches ** @ sheffield school. (wish i could say)
He left now. Thing is, he didn;t seem to mind, maybe hormonal teenagers but doesn;t make it right for teachers to exploit them,makes me sick. Someone talks sense at last! You can't have one rule for male teacher and another for females. The KIDS might fancy their teachers and be willing participants but it doesn't mean they are mature enough or won't be damaged by having a sexual relationship. the boundaries are there to protect staff and pupils. A fling for the teacher might be 'love' to the pupil. The KID could claim rape to get revenge for being hurt - in this country it is automatically considered statutory rape. The kids are very vunerable and a teacher taking advantage of that vunerability should be held accountable. If they can't keep their hands off school kids and show some self control then they shouldn't be doing the job.:clap:

tulip
26-06-2005, 04:27
Originally posted by redpower
Hey, I am a teacher and I teach 15 year old girls. I think some of them of are mighty fine and I want to let them know this. Of course I cannot penetrate them until they 16 but I can wait. Of course they are full of hormones and so will be grateful for the attention.


Make you queasy? It should

If this had been a 24 year old male teacher seducing a 15 year old girl the papers and many here would have been demanding his castration.

Why the double standards folks? A female teacher here was given 15 years and placed on the sex offenders list for seducing a 13 year old pupil. Originally she was given a suspended sentence and had to go for psychiatric treatment She had his child and was told to have no contact with him but got pregnant by him again and she was made to serve them full sentence - he says it's true love, I'm sure it is for him - now but what about in a few years time when he wonders where his childhood went?

dirtybristow
26-06-2005, 08:20
What I find interesting about this thread is the abuse of power. The reason that laws limiting the age of consent exist is to prevent people in positions of power abusing thier power. The laws apply not only to sex but to financial affairs (pardon the pun), medical examination and treatment and many other aspects of what for adults is everyday life.

Children, that is those under 18 years have in theory not had enough experience of everyday life to make informed and above all considered decisions.

These laws also translate into the adult world. Employment tribunals consistently uphold cases of constructive dismissal agianst employers or senior members of organisaitons who have sexual relationships with employees or junior staff. Universities and colleges have rules preventing lecturers and tutors from starting relationships with students, even if both are legally adults (i.e. 18 years old). The reason for this is that sex is still perceived as a sacred trust. The potential for emotional and physical harm in a sexual relationship is very real and when that is coupled with issues such as advancement in someone's career, pay and bonuses or the award of academic credit, the sakes get higher.

I suppose what I'm rambling about is that age is almost a side-issue in these cases, the central issue being abuse of power.

And I don't care if the lad in the Prentice case was "well up for it", his (probably disingenuous, I agree with Greenback) expression of regret should be enough to show that the long term outcomes can be harmful. You were lucky, KookyKoo and probably got some emotional maturity earlier than others, some people never will. That's a nice picture BTW. Is it you?

SHsheff
27-06-2005, 10:31
I think it's wrong both from the age and the abuse of authority points of view. Not mentioning it being against the law, of course.

Not sure I agree that it was abuse of 'power' - without knowing the details of the case, I would suspect that 'power' wasn't being particularly wielded. Authority, however, was abused, as a teacher (going back to Sian's post) is in loco parentis and should treat the responsibilty of their authority with respect and honour and not use their professional position to set themselves up with sexual relationships with those in their care.

As regards the age aspect, I think any adult should use the life experience they have to not abuse the inexperience of a young person (in this case, technically a child.)

It's a form of greed, isn't it? I see, I want, so I'm going to take, irrespective of the morals of my action.

Most distasteful. And the fact that the boy in question was apparently happy to be 'taken' (pun intended) doesn't make it right.

Instead of thinking of one's own schoolboy reaction (those of you who have taken that tack), try to imagine if it were your son who, instead of the usual furtive teenage fumblings with girls of his own age, had been seduced by a full-grown woman. I'd be appalled, furious and disgusted if it had happened to my son. It's taken all the normal teenage finding out and exploring away from that boy, and she had no right to do that to him.

SteveWilson
27-06-2005, 21:01
Originally posted by youwhatref
I know bless him. Having to bed his teacher who he probably fancied anyway must be such a bad experience for him!!

There's another case on the go now with a 24y/o teacher (nice looking teacher too! :lol: ) who seduced a 15 y/o lad.

I understand that teachers have limits but why didn't it happen to me?? They have sex education in school and what a great way to get it across! :hihi:

I can only guess the £ signs are in the mothers eyes!


Too right, why werent these teachers at my school.

Traumatised my arsed! It will have only come to light because he will have been bragging to all his mates and its slipped out to a parent.

Fookin good on him i say, legend!

SteveWilson
27-06-2005, 21:03
Originally posted by Greenback
Quote from the lad in the paper:

"I was young and naive and thought I was living every schoolboy’s fantasy but it turned into a living hell."

1. I don't believe you, son.

2. If you really said that, I'll eat me hat!


ha ha ha AGREED!:hihi: :thumbsup:

Siān
28-06-2005, 10:48
MOD: Please keep to the topic - this thread is a discussion about a news story & not an assessment of the attractiveness of the teacher in question.