plenty of blades including my good self have congratulated the pigs.

1 or 2 have said wendy were the better team. i disagree with that a fair result would have been a draw. but hey ho s*** happens.

just got the star with match facts.

corners
blades 7
pigs 4

shots on target.
blades 6
pigs 3

shots off target
blades7
pigs 2

total attempts at goal
blades 13
pigs 5

sadly the one that counts. goals

blades 1
pigs 2

not exactly a hell of a beating some of you suggest.

onwards and upwards coooom on you blades. bring on the hull.

As a Blade, I have to disagree. I thought the outcome WAS the fair result.

The fact is, the last four times we've played Wednesday we've looked 2nd best. I will admit the one at Hillsborough this season we were unlucky with the sending off etc. BUT, even in that game they played the better football.

Watching the game on Saturday, I just kept asking myself "why can't we pass and move like that?".

Wednesday won 2-1, it was a fair result because they were better than us. That's the end of the story as far as I'm concerned.

As a Blade, I have to disagree. I thought the outcome WAS the fair result.

The fact is, the last four times we've played Wednesday we've looked 2nd best. I will admit the one at Hillsborough this season we were unlucky with the sending off etc. BUT, even in that game they played the better football.

Watching the game on Saturday, I just kept asking myself "why can't we pass and move like that?".

Wednesday won 2-1, it was a fair result because they were better than us. That's the end of the story as far as I'm concerned.

that is your opinion mate and entitled to it like the other 30,000.
that was there. we've been crap now since christmas apart from wolves away. the donny game the other night was as bad as i can remember. charlton in the cup was also garbage. point i am making is it was'nt as one sided as some are saying. ie we took a hell of a beating. we hit the post at 1-1 and a fantastic save at the end denied us a point.

the thing is we have 2 bad sides. their happy with it were not.

wont keep me away this saturday tho.:thumbsup:

Shots on goal don't always reflect the game as a whole though, do they? So you had 6 shots on target - but how many times did Grant have to make a serious save? The goal, a few long range efforts, and that one in injury time which was arguably going over the bar anyway.

It was an excellent win for us, not just a local derby but an away win against a top 4 side. We played well, played the better football, but I'm certainly not claiming that we battered you, or it was a hell of a beating. Just a very good win.

We did what was required. Classic away performance in every respect - got the goals in the first half and comfortably absorbed the pressure in the second. Overall posession was 50-50 as well.

I recall seeing your match report from the other night - Southampton battered you on shots on goal, think it was something like 12 against 3 on target. Yet you won 2-1 and Blackwell, sorry, Blackie, said that you deserved to win. How does that work then?

In my opinion, Wednesday took what few chances they had well and came away with 3 points that well..... I personally don't think were deserved.

A draw for me would have been fair, but I have no qualms with the loss (other than poor play from the Blades on the whole). Wednesday did what was required of them.

Shots on goal don't always reflect the game as a whole though, do they? So you had 6 shots on target - but how many times did Grant have to make a serious save? The goal, a few long range efforts, and that one in injury time which was arguably going over the bar anyway.

It was an excellent win for us, not just a local derby but an away win against a top 4 side. We played well, played the better football, but I'm certainly not claiming that we battered you, or it was a hell of a beating. Just a very good win.

We did what was required. Classic away performance in every respect - got the goals in the first half and comfortably absorbed the pressure in the second. Overall posession was 50-50 as well.

I recall seeing your match report from the other night - Southampton battered you on shots on goal, think it was something like 12 against 3 on target. Yet you won 2-1 and Blackwell, sorry, Blackie, said that you deserved to win. How does that work then?

I have to disagree with this aswell. I don't think you sat back as much as some would say. Even Blackwell reckons you shut up shop. You still attacked us, even in the second half and also hit the post. Ok so Kenny didn't have as much to do as Grant, but you certainly looked more of a threat going forward. None of our set pieces were effective, apart from one throw in, but that was because we only had three tall players on the pitch, so you were hardly going to struggle with an aerial attack!

We played the wrong tactics for the players we had on the pitch and paid the price.

Shots on goal don't always reflect the game as a whole though, do they? So you had 6 shots on target - but how many times did Grant have to make a serious save? The goal, a few long range efforts, and that one in injury time which was arguably going over the bar anyway.

It was an excellent win for us, not just a local derby but an away win against a top 4 side. We played well, played the better football, but I'm certainly not claiming that we battered you, or it was a hell of a beating. Just a very good win.

We did what was required. Classic away performance in every respect - got the goals in the first half and comfortably absorbed the pressure in the second. Overall posession was 50-50 as well.

I recall seeing your match report from the other night - Southampton battered you on shots on goal, think it was something like 12 against 3 on target. Yet you won 2-1 and Blackwell, sorry, Blackie, said that you deserved to win. How does that work then?

This is well put Al.

Stats can tell you one thing, but they very rarely tell you the whole picture.

The save Grant did in extra time was going over already (better safe than sorry though) so you are correct. It was also a good away performance, you're righyt - you contained and ssnuffled out most of our threats. However KB did play into your hands.

Match stat:

Sheffield United 1 Sheffield Wednesday 2

I think that wednesday did enough to deserve the win for me- after half time they closed our midfielders down when they were on the ball and stopped our frankly predictable cross field balls and then hit us on the break when regained the ball.
Of course the stats will say we had more shots/chances- we were chasing the game for 50 minutes!

It hurts to say it but I think we were beaten by the better team on saturday.

the thing is we have 2 bad sides. their happy with it were not.


Hey...Not happy with it at all mate, just a bit more realistic to what's happening etc!

its all opinions at the end of the day. i think all the blades i've heard on rs have said we deserved the win, i think we did just shade it. thats just from watching it, the stats can be quite decieving like al said.

I have to disagree with this aswell. I don't think you sat back as much as some would say. Even Blackwell reckons you shut up shop. You still attacked us, even in the second half and also hit the post. Ok so Kenny didn't have as much to do as Grant, but you certainly looked more of a threat going forward. None of our set pieces were effective, apart from one throw in, but that was because we only had three tall players on the pitch, so you were hardly going to struggle with an aerial attack!

We played the wrong tactics for the players we had on the pitch and paid the price.

Well said Sir!
Blackclock said after the game that Wednesday "just couldn't handle our set plays" and blah, blah, blah. ..
I'd say you were at the game, and Blackclock weren't. :thumbsup:

plenty of blades including my good self have congratulated the pigs.

1 or 2 have said wendy were the better team. i disagree with that a fair result would have been a draw. but hey ho s*** happens.

just got the star with match facts.

corners
blades 7
pigs 4

shots on target.
blades 6
pigs 3

shots off target
blades7
pigs 2

total attempts at goal
blades 13
pigs 5

sadly the one that counts. goals

blades 1
pigs 2

not exactly a hell of a beating some of you suggest.

onwards and upwards coooom on you blades. bring on the hull.

my stats from saturday:

too rex 7
slade 5
pistols 9
rubettes 7
jimmy james 8
alvin stardust 7
vodka by the bucket load 10

1914 was a very good year but 2009 was even better,so to celebrate lets invade germany.....

I must say i know that we don't always put our chances away and that's been one of our biggest problems this season, so it was refreshing to see us look clinical, what a game to choose for a wondergoal like that, i thought Watsons was good the other month, Tudgays made his look like a tap in lol.

I have to say that although i think we deserved to win it may have been different if henderson had played (although i think he's bobbins) because the scum's gameplan of lumping it forward to two umpa lumpa's was never going to work against woody and beevers' whereas the big relish may have got more joy . Still cant see what your all moaning about though your 4th in the chuffin league

Well said Sir!
Blackclock said after the game that Wednesday "just couldn't handle our set plays" and blah, blah, blah. ..
I'd say you were at the game, and Blackclock weren't. :thumbsup:

The set pieces delivered by feet were atrocious (as they have been for a while)... Halford's long throw was dangerous in the first half at least... but apart from the goal, you didn't look any more unsettled than any other team under a Halford attack!

KB should just have come out and admitted he'd made a pig's ear of the tactics on the day... if you've got Hendo up front, then at least there's some justification in long balls... but when you've got tiny people against giants, what's the point? He seems scared of trying to win games at home by taking a risk, so goes out to make sure we don't lose...and you end up losing the crowd, and the game!

He needs to go back to how we played at the end of last season when we rose up the table, with Cotterill bombing down the wing - they're carrying too many passengers at the moment, and you can't do that in a Sheffield derby...

owls won get over it,we will now lick our wounds move on and reorganize. get a loan player in and show the rest of the league we are better than that

The match stats in the Star are completely different from those in newspapers like The Mirror. Either the Mirror journo wasn't paying attention or the Statto bloke at the Star is being overly kind to United about what counted as a shot.

But that's beside the point anyway. You lost, get over it.

Wednesday was by far the better team first half, knocking the ball around well at times. We deserved to be in front at half time. Second half we sat back and soaked up all you had to throw at us and also looked dangerous on the counter. United's only frets were a couple of long throws into the box form Halford. Sharp did well when he came on. Other than that thought United were very poor. One more thing bb how many of those attemps would you say was clear cut 2 maybe 3?

probably had more throw ins, free kicks, sold more pies on your end but it counts for nowt, Nada niltch,

the one and only statistic that really counts 2 - 1 :)

glad you took my advice tho, and mentioned football on a football thread bj, :thumbsup:

Nice to see your clutching straws BB.First half we got the ball down as much as possible and looked more threatening going forward.United had long throws and that's about it.No attempt was made by United to play football.Second half we sat deeper and soaked up Uniteds attempts to force the game.I never thought we looked like conceeding.It cetainly wasn't a hammering by us.I haven't heard anybody say it was.It was though a comfortable victory and deserved.
Would Relish have made a differance?It's irrelevant as he was banned.
If we played you again next week i'd certainly fancy our chances.

probably had more throw ins, free kicks, sold more pies on your end but it counts for nowt, Nada niltch,

the one and only statistic that really counts 2 - 1 :)

glad you took my advice tho, and mentioned football on a football thread bj, :thumbsup:


yes mate i listen to what you say. enjoyed watching you all try to get a rise today. sorry we spoilt it for you sunshine. :hihi::hihi:

bring on the hull. still in play offs and cup. your seasons over. back to tenerifeeeee with you.

yes mate i listen to what you say. enjoyed watching you all try to get a rise today. sorry we spoilt it for you sunshine. :hihi::hihi:

bring on the hull. still in play offs and cup. your seasons over. back to tenerifeeeee with you.

both teams have plenty to play for. we still arent clear of relegation but can still make a late charge for playoffs, although it is a big ask. once hull have knocked you out of the cup you still have playoffs to aim for. should be an interesting end to the season

It cetainly wasn't a hammering by us.I haven't heard anybody say it was.


you must have missed planks thread then mate.

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=456115


i suppose the login gives him away tho. :loopy:

i think he was the only 1 that said it though

[QUOTE=bladebloke;4659413]yes mate i listen to what you say. enjoyed watching you all try to get a rise today. sorry we spoilt it for you sunshine

bj, do you really think you could spoil my weekend :hihi:

to be honest i couldn't understand what half your lot were crowing about before the game, now i understand
Blackwell the history maker, Donny had never beat you at the lane then we do the double, happy days,, happy days

[QUOTE=bladebloke;4659413]yes mate i listen to what you say. enjoyed watching you all try to get a rise today. sorry we spoilt it for you sunshine

bj, do you really think you could spoil my weekend :hihi:

to be honest i couldn't understand what half your lot were crowing about before the game, now i understand
Blackwell the history maker, Donny had never beat you at the lane then we do the double, happy days,, happy days

when replying to points in the middle of a post its better to do it in bold mate then we can see what point your trying to make.. second thoughts it proberbly does'nt matter with you. keep chomping :hihi::hihi:

In my opinion, Wednesday took what few chances they had well and came away with 3 points that well..... I personally don't think were deserved.

A draw for me would have been fair, but I have no qualms with the loss (other than poor play from the Blades on the whole). Wednesday did what was required of them.

You didn't have a good goal disallowed, a striker unfairly sent off, a penalty denied etc; so why did you deserve a draw? Should Spurr or Tudgay have not scored, or do you think that they were lucky?

Please explain how you deserved a draw, because I can't see it. :confused:

As a Blade, I have to disagree. I thought the outcome WAS the fair result.

The fact is, the last four times we've played Wednesday we've looked 2nd best. I will admit the one at Hillsborough this season we were unlucky with the sending off etc. BUT, even in that game they played the better football.

Watching the game on Saturday, I just kept asking myself "why can't we pass and move like that?".

Wednesday won 2-1, it was a fair result because they were better than us. That's the end of the story as far as I'm concerned.

Good reply mate :thumbsup: Kinda pee's on b-lady's strawberries ( or to give him his full title ) the logistics expert and crowd-counting, fact-finding, ticket information service/seat analyst, proof-by-photograph request shop and attendance keeper......

Good reply mate :thumbsup: Kinda pee's on b-lady's strawberries ( or to give him his full title ) the logistics expert and crowd-counting, fact-finding, ticket information service/seat analyst, proof-by-photograph request shop and attendance keeper......

I also pretty much stated as such on the thread about Wednesday's tactics BEFORE the game.

The fact is, we really haven't been playing very well, but got results because of other teams inabilities to score, no cutting edge etc. We were going to get found out eventually and it happened at the worst possible moment against a team who could pass, move and shoot.

Put it this way if you play like you did against us against Hull at the weekend then i can see them scoring a few, they haven't been winning much latley so a break from the league is right up there avenue, it could be the wrong game for you after a defeat in a Sheffield derby.

Good reply mate :thumbsup: Kinda pee's on b-lady's strawberries ( or to give him his full title ) the logistics expert and crowd-counting, fact-finding, ticket information service/seat analyst, proof-by-photograph request shop and attendance keeper......


not really pee'd on my strawberries lest*at. the stats were from the sheffield star.

yerv never seen a double :hihi::hihi:

Put it this way if you play like you did against us against Hull at the weekend then i can see them scoring a few, they haven't been winning much latley so a break from the league is right up there avenue, it could be the wrong game for you after a defeat in a Sheffield derby.

see i think it could go the other way- with it being the cup it can let us play with a sense of freedon we just havn't been doing in the league.

As as you said- hull have been struggling- this could be an upset on the cards.

yerv never seen a double :hihi::hihi:

Oh dear.... Denial, it ain't just a river in Egypt. :rolleyes:

see i think it could go the other way- with it being the cup it can let us play with a sense of freedon we just havn't been doing in the league.

As as you said- hull have been struggling- this could be an upset on the cards.

yeah Hull have been pretty poor of late to be fair the draw could have been worse for you.

Put it this way if you play like you did against us against Hull at the weekend then i can see them scoring a few, they haven't been winning much latley so a break from the league is right up there avenue, it could be the wrong game for you after a defeat in a Sheffield derby.

yes but on the other hand a break from the league could be right up our avenue. we will be underdogs for a change against a side that are slipping closer and closer to relegation. so may rest a few players for the more important league run in. and most of all our players had better be hurting and want to prove there not as bad as they played saturday. it could be the perfect game for us after a defeat in a sheffield derby.

i'll be there as usual. all blades arnt we :thumbsup:

You didn't have a good goal disallowed, a striker unfairly sent off, a penalty denied etc; so why did you deserve a draw? Should Spurr or Tudgay have not scored, or do you think that they were lucky?

Please explain how you deserved a draw, because I can't see it. :confused:

All those answers you are giving are deemed as excuses because of the referee for not getting a draw.

We had the opportunities to score a second goal, but we didn't take them. That's why we deserved the draw. In the whole of things we SHOULD have equalised. But we didn't. Simple. I accept we lost and I am to move on to the next game.....

As for Spurrs' goal, no he shouldn't have scored it, it was absolutely shocking defending and had he been closed down like he should have been then it wouldn't have gone in.

Tudgays goal was on of them that will go flying wide or over ot towards the keeper 98 times out of a 100. This is one of the times it was lucky to go in (not lucky cause he didn't go for it, but lucky because them sort of shorts are so hard to do)

All those answers you are giving are deemed as excuses because of the referee for not getting a draw.

We had the opportunities to score a second goal, but we didn't take them. That's why we deserved the draw. In the whole of things we SHOULD have equalised. But we didn't. Simple. I accept we lost and I am to move on to the next game.....

As for Spurrs' goal, no he shouldn't have scored it, it was absolutely shocking defending and had he been closed down like he should have been then it wouldn't have gone in.

Tudgays goal was on of them that will go flying wide or over ot towards the keeper 98 times out of a 100. This is one of the times it was lucky to go in (not lucky cause he didn't go for it, but lucky because them sort of shorts are so hard to do)

So working directly in line with your logic your goal shouldn't have been scored because we should have defended it instead of just looking at it. In that case we should have won 1-3, your logic mate, not mine.

As a Blade, I have to disagree. I thought the outcome WAS the fair result.

The fact is, the last four times we've played Wednesday we've looked 2nd best. I will admit the one at Hillsborough this season we were unlucky with the sending off etc. BUT, even in that game they played the better football.

Watching the game on Saturday, I just kept asking myself "why can't we pass and move like that?".

Wednesday won 2-1, it was a fair result because they were better than us. That's the end of the story as far as I'm concerned.

I'm glad that some united fans can speak the truth.....as an Owl....I can say that overall..taking everything into account that united are the better team....they are higher in the table....more likely to make the premiership than us at the moment. Lee grant is the reason we are where we are....our attackers are the reason we are where we are....our defenders are the reason where we are....our midfielders are the reason we are where we are....our team is the reason. problem is we are inconsistent.

So working directly in line with your logic your goal shouldn't have been scored because we should have defended it instead of just looking at it. In that case we should have won 1-3, your logic mate, not mine.

Not logically no,

Tudgays goal was a good one, Spurrs' goal was through very poor defending of which the Owls took advantage of.

My opinion was that a draw would be a fair result based upon performance and chances given to each side.

However the Owls captilised on their chances and won.....

Michael Brown's goal in the derby was a 'cracker'.
Beattie's free kick last year was 'superb'.
Tudgay's winner on Saturday was 'one of them that could've gone anywhere'.

C'mon! :rolleyes: