Capp/owen side My fathers side.

mother??-father owen had 3 sons william,Harry and Charlie(Charles)
Harry married not sure of wifes name had a daughter called Herriet Owen.
Charlie Owen dont know if he married and had chlidren.

This is my gt-grandfather and mother .
William married nellie Greaves her date of birth 28th nov 1881 i have her passport .

Nellie had a sister called Jessie Greaves dont know if shes older or younger.Dont knw if she married and had chlidren.

William and Nellie had a son and Daughter William jr and Jessie Owen
I know Jessie was born 4/10/1908 died july|1996 and married Franics Josphe capp dob 1/06/1908 died 1993 sometime in june 1941 they had 1 son my dad Noel g. capp dob 26/09/1944 died 2/01/1997.My dad was married to lady be for my mother and had a son Noel march 1972 he married my mum 3/07/1978. they dioved late 80's.

William jr Owen( sliversmith) married and had 2 Daughters Mureen Owen still alive and Christen Owen now Robinson still alive.

William Owen senior was a Dapper and they owned 210 northfield rd Crookes and 6 norfolk street. Norfolk street was a warehouse i think.

found in whites 1919 and kellys 1925.
the shop later passes to Jessie Capp nee Owen found in Directories around 1973.

i do knw that William and Nellie where thought to have moved or gone to vist U.S.A at some time.

thats as much as i know on that side i only know that Francis j. Capp my grandfather was born in Knaresborough dont knw about any brother or sisters and dont knw his mother or fathers names.

Fox/Jackson
This is my mothers side .

Thomas Jackson dob around 1887? Married Blanche Vaughan dob 1889?? both died around 2nd -13th july not sure of yr but will put when i nxt go to grave .
they had 8 chlidern i think . Blanche came from Gledless. they married and lived in Woodhouse and then Victora Rd beighton .

childern :-doris jackson/foxdob18/06/1921 died 3/02/2006 when married to my grandad Harry fox dob 19/01/1914 died nov/dec 1984? Doris was married b4 aswell.

Roy jackson married and moved to OZ after having his 1st chlid . family still live there now.

Norman jackson dob?? died??

Alan Jackson still alive and in wales . married and has childern a son and daughter.

Phyis Jackson Died late 90's was married to Sam Jackson . lived at robin lane beighton all their married lives no childern .

Muriel Jackson married G.Stavley had 2 daughters . Muriel died early 90's in scotland where she went to live near her daughters . but lived most of her live in doncaster.

Eunice Jackson married Herbet Hallet no childern and Eunice died 1984ish. Herbet worked for railway.

Think there was 1 more child a girl dont know her name and was thought to have died young.


Doris and Harry fox had 3 daughters and 1 son they are still all alive .
They lived all their married life at 13 falconer lane woodhouse mill the family home till my gran passed away in 2006 was owned by my auntie and sold not long after she died .Its was also a shop run my gran . Harry moved to sheffield from Darbyshire . His mother was called Frances dont knw her maiden name and dont know his fathers name.

Thats as much a i know so if there is anone that can help me with any more pls do .

ON the 1891 census there is a Greaves family living at 31 Egerton Street In Golcar Sheffield they are;

William F (39)
Ellen (37)
Sarah A (15)
Herbert (11)
Nellie (9)
Jessie (3)
George (1)

The father William is described as a Slivermith (Gold worker)

5 of the family are still together on the 1901 census at Milton street Ecclesall Beirlow, Mum, dad, nellie, jessie and george. dad is still a Silversmith (gold worker) nellie is described as a cardboard box maker.

thanks for that it my help me out alot

This looks like a likely candidate for the OWEN family in 1891:

1891 Census
(piece 3796 folio 134 page 37)
111 Greaves St
(Nether Hallam)

Charles E. OWEN Head Marr 41 silversmith STS Cannock
Hannah OWEN Wife Marr 42 STS Cannock
Charles E OWEN Son 16 silversmith WAR Leamington
Harry OWEN Son 15 silversmith WAR Leamington
Mary OWEN Dau 12 scholar WAR Leamington
Willie OWEN 10 scholar WAR Leamington

Charles (senior) died in 1899.
Here is the family in the 1901 census:

1901 Census
(piece 4343 folio page 32)
54 Channing St
(Nether Hallam; Owlerton)

Hannah OWEN Head Wid 52 STS 'Womburn'[?]
Charles E OWEN Son Unm 26 spoon & fork filer WAR Birmingham
Harry OWEN Son Unm 28 metal spinner WAR Birmingham
Mary E OWEN Dau Unm 22 WAR Birmingham
William OWEN Son Unm 20 cabinet maker WAR Birmingham

The parents Charles & Hannah, and the sons Charles and Harry are buried in Walkley Cemetery. Harry married Harriet HEMMING - so it is quite likely they had a daughter called Harriet. Charles junr is buried in the same grave as his parents.

If you think this is the right family I can give you more information from the cemetery records.

Do you know when William and Nellie died and where they are buried?

Hugh

hi hugh dont knw about the owens might be right but im not sure...dont really knw any more then wot i had put at top the whole family is a mystery to me...and my dads to cousins that are still alive thats all the info they had ...im doing it for them as much as me .

I have Foxs's in my family tree - some from Chapeltown and Handsworth/ Woodhouse - would be happy to share info with you,

pls might find a link dont know of any in chapeltown

Will be in touch soon - my Grand father was a Fox.

thanks and if i have anything that might help i will try ..

I posted a bit about your dads family on the crookes site.
The address at crosspool was 2 Ryegate rd..So someone could check that in a directory for you, I'm out of the country so can't help sorry.
I think the house was owned by Jessies mom, so check for Owen there.

If Jessie owned the shop from 73, it would be a good bet that, that's when Nellie died.
I remember her death but have no Idea where she was burried.
Williams family were very involved with The Ebenezer church on South Rd.
I remember your mum opening Blooming Wonderful. I also remember your mum and dad getting married, but I'd left home by then so it was just my mums gossip.
Good luck with your search. I hope you are in contact with your half brother its so easy to loose touch and regret it later.

hi tooeg my half bro is a big part of my life and i would be with out him ..he may live in london but we talk alot and chat on another site so he get 2 see photos of my kids .

hi hugh maureen got me the marriage certifit for jessie and francis wedding .I have found out they married on the 5th june 1941 .from that i found out that my g.granddad is Henry joseph Capp and that they lived on Riverdale rd sheffield.

I have found a Henry joseph capp in Knaresborogh who married in march 1908 only month before my grandad who was born in the June of the same year could that be them if so, will i beable to get a copy of this marriage? or can i get my grandads birth certifit? so that i can get his mothers name?

The 39 kelly's has
Henry J Capp Gardener 70 Riverdale rd.
All his neighbours were company directors, J.P.s and the like.
Looking Capp up in the alphabetical instead of Riverdale Rd. We find he was the Gardener to the convent of Notre Dame.
I don't know whether Henry would have been Roman Catholic, to have worked there.
The 1960 Kelly's doesn't have a Capp. He would have been at Ryegate Rd. where the householder was Nellie Owen so he wouldn't have been mentioned.
I forgot to say 1939 Kelly's shows Wm Owen Warehouseman at Ryegate Rd.and 210 Northfield Rd It also shows Owen W & Co. at 61 (not 6) Norfolk St .Tel. No. Sheffield 24706 which was a factory site called Rodger's wheel, the other tenants were mainly cutlers and other manufacturers.
The 39 also has 2 listings at 210 Northfield Rd Owen Mrs Nellie Draper and Owen William

hi tooeg i had forgotten that knew he worked at notre dame i found that out when i went to school there as one of the last nuns showed me a photo and his name was on it but it only said h.capp head gardener and as i was the only capp in the school she thought that it might have somthing to do with me. but by the time she showed me my grandad had passed away and i didnt vist my grandma much due to the fact i did get on with my dad, becuase he had kept me away from the funeral. i think i have also got a photo of all the ppl that worked there not shaw. thanks again for the help in the quest to peice together my family pass. its so hard cause ppl didnt talk about it in my dads side .

Hi Flic
What school did your dad go to,
You should find a bit of info on their web site.

i dont even knw wot school he went to i knw he was in hosptail wiv tb at some point

He would have more than likely been in Lodge moor Hospital as it was an isolation Hospital.
If you ask Maureen or Christine which school he went to I'll try and get onto their old boys site and see if they have anything.
Do you think he went to Birkdale rather than a state school

I do knw that he was friends with paul carrack and his brother .....their mum had the shop nxt door, sold wall paper and paint . Maureen is going talk to Christine about the school as they where same age. But she does think at some point he was at Private school but unshaw which 1.

my dad did go to private school called Oakwood collegiate Norwood rd he didnt pass his 11+ so was sent there . My dad was in King Edward 7th hosptail Rivelin.

my gt grandad capp Henry Capp also work at St Josphes Convent Commonside and yes he was Roman Catholic.

There was an Edwin Fox in our class at the Central Technical School 1952-55.

He will be about 70years old now.

If he is of your family interest he shouldn't be hard to find through the Old boy's association or on the posting about the School on this forum.

Hope this helps, Good Luck PopT

my dad did go to private school called Oakwood collegiate Norwood rd he didnt pass his 11+ so was sent there . My dad was in King Edward 7th hosptail Rivelin.

my gt grandad capp Henry Capp also work at St Josphes Convent Commonside and yes he was Roman Catholic.

I've heard of Oakwood School, I think some of my class mates at King Teds had been there but I've no Idea where it was. Some of the old Kelly's have Oakwood collegiate school at Norwood, but nothing at Fulwood.
Help please someone.

Hi Tooeg

Norwood private school was on Norwood Road about halfway on on the left hand side going towards Barensley Road from Herries Road.

The school was below the road level and you could miss irt travelling along Norwood Road in a car.

I believe the school only took pupils up to a certain age as there was an ex pupil from there in my class at the Central Technical School.

Hope this helps. PopT