This evening I had a lengthy conversation with the infamous Nico, owner of Harios and half of Hillsborough! Just in case any of you are unaware, he owns the row of unsightly, run down, boarded up shops on Hillsborough corner (formerly Oxfam etc) He also owns another half derelict building on Langsett Road and has just aquired the Hairdressers at the end of Taplin Road.

I asked him what were his plans for the buildings and were they going to be left derelict fo another 2 years (or more). He says he isn't doing anything with them because the council and the police won't allow him to open a bar there. He seemed genuinely suprised that they don't want yet another watering hole. His other plans were to open a diner/restaurant, (he said a kind of pop in pop out place like McDonalds) which he wants to stay open after 10:30pm as this is just when things are livening up in Hillsborough.

He said unless the council/police allow him to do this he will "Flatten them and build flats". (the buildings, not the council/police!)

He says he has offered to put up CCTV cameras around Hillsborough at his expense to try and curb drink related trouble but the police/council are having none of it.

I asled him how he would feel if he lived here and had derelict buildings on his doorstep. He says if I don't like it I can always move!!!! As I pointed out to him, not everyone is in the luxurious position he is in, that they have money to play around with. For me, moving is not an option and anyway, why should I move from the area I was brought up in and have always been happy in?

He is obviously a very shrewd buisnessman but what I cannot understand is why anyone would invest money in property that they cannot use for the purpose they want to? Did he not check this out first and ask the relevant departments about planning permission etc?

So now, he sits and waits. Does he hope the council will get so fed up of the state of Hills Corner that they will back down and let him do what he wants? Does he care what local people think? I doubt that.

So then, lets give him a helping hand .......what would you like to see done with the shops at Hillsborough Corner? Do you think we need yet another bar? Do you want a diner? ANy other suggestions?

He says the shop at the end of Taplin Road will hopefully be either a barbers or guess what?? Another sandwhich shop!!!

Oh and if we're really not happy with the state of things round here, why don't we start a petition!!!! (his idea not mine!!)

I'd like to see a well stocked newsagents.. One that has all the latest computer mags would be good so I can call in and read the mags like I used to when the GT in the Precinct was open :D

I'd like to see..no shopping trolleys in the river - that would be a start

how about a kids cafe,pops and x boxes,drop the kids in while you shop,have to be fully supervised tho......and then close it at six,turn it into a coffee shop,meeting up type of place until tenish at night

A Starbucks or Subway.

:hihi:

a small, controlled nuclear explosion :hihi:

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I voted for "something else", but I don't know what! There's already enough pubs in Hillsborough, and way too many takeaways and cafes.

As for flats (sorry, I think we have to call them 'luxury apartments' these days), I can't imagine anyone wanting to live on such a busy road with all the noise and pollution. Mind you... I thought that about West One, so I know clearly nowt!

I have voted for another bar, I know we may have enough already but I wish that Weatherspoons had got the planning permission they sought. A bar that has no music and serves ok food in a spacious environment would hopefuly attract a different group of people and suit some of us who go regularly to Hillsborough now. Weatherspoons may not have succeeded with the Bankers Draft in ousting out some dodgey customers but I think Hillsborough corner would be a fitting place for a bar, especialy one that could have some sort of open terrace. I would sign a petition Fetishfairy as would many of my neighbours, I think we should STAND UP to the "buisiness man"
AKA hario's owner and be heard loud and clear, he may have money to throw around buying up shops but as residents surely we can have some say especially with the local council

Nico strung up by his reproductive organs:mad:

subway:clap: :clap: :clap: :thumbsup:

Originally posted by clairerob
subway:clap: :clap: :clap: :thumbsup:

Methinks Gregg's would object on competition grounds.. :rolleyes:

He said unless the council/police allow him to do this he will "Flatten them and build flats". (the buildings, not the council/police!)

He would still need *the council's* permission to build flats, *and* he would have to justify the departure from the specified land use.

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JGH

Originally posted by Rich
Methinks Gregg's would object on competition grounds.. :rolleyes:

Competition isn't a planning ground.

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JGH

I'd like to see a really good Deli or as Rich states a good Newsagents that stocks many of the popular magazines.

I think a good deli/cafe would be nice, Hillsborough is up and coming, a mcdonalds style cafe wouldn't be going in the same direction.

How about if enough people decided to boycott Nico's businesses?

Originally posted by jacs
How about if enough people decided to boycott Nico's businesses?

I've certainly never been in one, so I'm ahead of the game in that respect.:)

As for what I'd like to see there, a bookshop or record/CD shop would be nice, but it would never survive. A good newsagents is certainly a possibility too. An Apple computer shop is probably a bit ambitious though it would save me going to Meadowhall. What I do know is that we really don't need any more bars, cafes, sandwich shops and so on - what do you think this is, West Street?

Originally posted by metalman

As for what I'd like to see there, a bookshop or record/CD shop would be nice,

There is a CD shop in Hillsborough, it is near the 95 stop back to Walkley - I think.

:)

What I would like to see at Hillsborough corner is
no traffic.

My mate had hillbro records but couldnt keep up with competition from the likes of woolworths selling cd's for under a tenner etc, and rent was too much ...so not sure a cd shop would work.

A deli cafe would be quite good as all the other cafes seem to be aimed at the older generation. (sorry if ive offended anyone)


But i'd like to see some decent clothes shops as much as i like dorothy perkins but ur limited as they seem to have the same stuff in when i pop in, and theres only burtons for the lads.

BUT no matter what they build can hillsbro please please please have some public toilets !!!

Originally posted by Don_Kiddick
a small, controlled nuclear explosion :hihi:

You read my mind!!

About 4 of these:

http://mail.guns.ru/Lists/firearms_r/Message/458-02-B/minigun.jpg (sans action man...)

positioned on balconies for locals to mow down drunk chavs on a Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday nights.


Oh the fun.

A decent Cafe/Bar is the only option,You have them on Ecclesall Rd,Crooks,Woodseats,Why not Hillsborough
If there's somewhere decent to go in Hillsborough,you'll get decent people visiting instead of the influx of ****** up scrubbers who are regularly found in The Blue Ball/Deep End

One decent bar in the centre of Hillsborough is a must. That site used to be a pub years ago and it's a nice old building underneath all the moss and pigeon do-do. A showpiece bar would be ideal. It could show the other pubs round there how to do it and attract people with money to spend to the area.

A friendly atmosphere with local cask ales, fancy Belgian bottled beers and nice coffee - all served to a high standard. Pretty much like the Barrack Tavern or Hillsbro Hotel but in a better location and with more of a cafe vibe, so it would get a good mix of people.

I'm actually coming round to the idea of a new bar IF it's a nice one. (Does "niceness" count towards planning consent?), after driving past Wetherspoons yesterday when they had all the front open, it looked very summery and chilled. That's acceptable, but not another Ball/Leg Ends!

A lot less chavs

Originally posted by Bilge
One decent bar in the centre of Hillsborough is a must. That site used to be a pub years ago and it's a nice old building underneath all the moss and pigeon do-do. A showpiece bar would be ideal. It could show the other pubs round there how to do it and attract people with money to spend to the area.

A friendly atmosphere with local cask ales, fancy Belgian bottled beers and nice coffee - all served to a high standard. Pretty much like the Barrack Tavern or Hillsbro Hotel but in a better location and with more of a cafe vibe, so it would get a good mix of people.

would it work though.

I wouldn't go to a bar there until I was sure that it was nice and going to stay nice. And the chavs are no respectors of niceness, they'd go in anyway and it'd pretty soon be not nice.

There are a lot of buisness's in Hillsborough,Banks,Estate Agent's and others,it is a very busy place during the working hours,but there is no where "nice" to go for lunch,coffee,after work drinks.Hillsborough is crying out for a decent place.The council and police have thrown out application after application for these kinds of places during recent years.Wetherspoons wanted to open up near the bus interchange/Morrisons entrance,but that was thrown out.And then the council moan when theres boarded up shops and derelict builds left.
This council has never been very forward thinking,the city centre proves that.Let Nico get on with what he wants to create.

For me its got to be flats. There are plenty of pubs/shops/restaurants etc in Hills already.

I personally wouldn't want to live in them but there will be people who do and prob pay a fortune for them at the same time.

Lets face it, this would be much better than what is there at the moment.

Id like to see a new big, cafe - somewhere where you could meet mates and have a chat at dinner, or in the evening, have a meal, a more relaxed place to meet people, instead of a busy snack bar or pub.

Cyclone is right. A bar is only as nice as it's clientele (sp?)

Whatever they build there will get filled with the same folk that frequent Legends and the Ball. Therefore none of you will want to go in there.

So you end up with another bar full of drunk idiots vomiting, fighting and generally destroying the area.

Flats? Maybe a good idea, except the tennents would loath it after two weeks had past. Can you imagine living on Hillsborough corner? Trying to relax on a friday night? Ugh.

Were I forced to live there, I'd want a top floor flat with grenade-proof glass.

I'd like to see em get rid of that tram gate!

I'm gonna have a hard time convincing the law I'm public transport when they eventually catch me running through it.

I would really like to see a bookshop, with a cafe/bar inside, that stayed open until about 10pm. It would be quite nice to consdier my purchases while drink a flass of vino.

If someone ever gets round to creating a 'nice' bar (or shop or restaurant) in Hillsbro then I'm sure it would succeed. S6 is a big place, and a lot of people pass that corner every day. There are more 'nice' people around than undesirables, and they've got more money to spend. If a new fancy cafe-bar/restaurant had no TVs, hence no SkySport, no karaoke, no video jukebox, no drinks promotions, and it wasn't particularly cheap drinks would all the 'drunk idiots' still go in it? They'd stay in the other places most of the time wouldn't they?

Crookes and Walkley are right next door and full of students with time and money to spend. But they currently have next to no impact on the shape of Hillsborough. That's got to change if things are to improve - it needs their spending power. Give them (and the permanent residents with dosh to spend) somewhere nice to go and see what happens. At the moment it seems like a lot of potential customers feel they are not allowed in Hillsborough at night so they never set foot in the place. So it's mainly left to the usual type of customer and we never escape the present empty shops/crappy takeaways/rough pubs model of Hillsborough. It doesn't have to stay like that if there's money to be made doing something different.

How about a great big GAY BAR...

That should give the locals something to talk about.:hihi:

How about a nice Fish & chip SHOP THAT HAS A CAFE IN THE BACK .AFTER ALL THERE IS ENOUGH ROOM

A two way fly-over connecting Stannington Rd & Penistone Rd therefore avoiding the hopeless traffic situation.

What's it going to be like with more houses at Loxley College?

Malin Bridge? Useless-another bridge needed up the Loxley!

Its time somthing was done about the corner, compulsery purchase comes to mind if only to show" citizen kane" that its not what he wants but what the people of sheffield want, that will count in the end.The idea of flats in the middle of a shopping centre is just money grabbing unless of course there are shops or a pub or a diner underneath, in which case it won't be long before the residents are complaining about the smell / noise ect.
I wonder if our new M.P. will take an interest in this?or indeed our local council rep?
A petition is a very good idea it would give the local people a chance to find out just who it is thats making the corner look so run down, why their doing it, and how much they care about what people think!
Then a list of shops that they own could be shown and a good old fashoned boycott put into operation!

I just wish he'd get rid of that annoying sign that's been there for ages saying "opening soon".

how abt a small dept store on 3/4 levels

Originally posted by ben79
How about a great big GAY BAR...

That should give the locals something to talk about.:hihi:
Would it be for great big gays, or would the bar be great big? :D

A new squat with free cider :)

I have just emailed Angela Smith, MP for Hillsborough this morning to ask her what she is doing about the state of Hillsborough Corner and Nasty Nico!

Will update when I get a response. (assuming I do get a response!)

making it more up market and expensive would probably deter the riffraff, but would it get enough custom (especially early on in it's life) to actually keep it running.
Students aren't likely to come down to hillsborough, there's plenty of what they like/need closer to home. And whilst they do have money to spend, they don't actually have enough to drink in fancy wine bars (or at least the ones I know don't).

Originally posted by Bilge
If someone ever gets round to creating a 'nice' bar (or shop or restaurant) in Hillsbro then I'm sure it would succeed. S6 is a big place, and a lot of people pass that corner every day. There are more 'nice' people around than undesirables, and they've got more money to spend. If a new fancy cafe-bar/restaurant had no TVs, hence no SkySport, no karaoke, no video jukebox, no drinks promotions, and it wasn't particularly cheap drinks would all the 'drunk idiots' still go in it? They'd stay in the other places most of the time wouldn't they?

Crookes and Walkley are right next door and full of students with time and money to spend. But they currently have next to no impact on the shape of Hillsborough. That's got to change if things are to improve - it needs their spending power. Give them (and the permanent residents with dosh to spend) somewhere nice to go and see what happens. At the moment it seems like a lot of potential customers feel they are not allowed in Hillsborough at night so they never set foot in the place. So it's mainly left to the usual type of customer and we never escape the present empty shops/crappy takeaways/rough pubs model of Hillsborough. It doesn't have to stay like that if there's money to be made doing something different.

This from the Sheffield Council website on nuisance properties:

"Nuisance

Our aim is to also encourage owners whose property is causing statutory nuisance, to carry out works and make improvements to their empty property. Properties that are left empty for long periods of time are often poorly maintained and have a negative effect on neighbouring properties. As a result, the council has powers to:

Serve Notice on owners whose property is causing statutory nuisance where the owner has failed to willingly remedy the cause.
Carry out the works ‘in default’, should an owner refuse to comply with the terms of the Notice within the timescale given. This will result in a charge being registered against the property. The charge will also include an administration fee.

If an owner of an empty property refuses to co-operate:

Due to the negative effects that empty properties cause within the city, the Council will not tolerate properties remaining empty for long period of time without good reason. If an owner refuses to work with us in bringing their empty property back in to use, the Council has powers to use a Compulsory Purchase Order to buy the property.

The Council would only consider Compulsory Purchase Orders where there is a compelling case in the public interest to do so."


I wonder whether a petition signed by enough Hillsborough residents and bsuiness owners might show that a compulsory purchase order might be required.....

To be honest though, apart from the rounded building right on the corner, the rest could just as well be flattened and developed into nice flats. It would mirror the proposed development of the building just opposite quite nicely.

Just to go back to the first post and the bit about Nico offering to pay for the CCTV, that really made me laugh! As far as I know the plans for installing the CCTV have been around for a good while and are still be looked at. The installation is one thing but the cost of running the CCTV and associated monitoring is massive and needs to be sustainable for the life of the cameras. The money has got to come from somewhere.

No stupid tram gate!
I'm sure they will find something suitable to go there...probably be more 'city apartments'

I'd like to see a decent wine/cocktails bar with plenty of seating and a music volume conducive to conversation. Preferably serving tapas too!

There are lots of professional people living in Hillsborough who aren't catered for by the existing bars and who have plenty of money to spend but nowhere to spend it locally so end up going into town.

If not a bar, then a deli-cafe would be nice.

I'm embarassed at the state of the corner - especially as it's pretty much the entrance to Hillsborough and the first impression people gain of the area. I'd sign a petition.

Demolish all Nico's buildings and build a cinema or bowling alley.

How about:

A bomb?

I voted flats. New decent flats could smarten the area up and bring trade to the shop around.

A nice big gypsy site.

Originally posted by AJ sheffield
A nice big gypsy site.

why would anyone want to see a gypsy site? you are obviously a bitter blade. What about a huge new bar/pub as there isn't enough room on match days :hihi:

starbucks or similar coffee type place...

I noticed that the empty shop next to the newagents at the bottom of Wadsley Lane now also displays a prominent Harios sticker in its window; does that mean it's also joined the Nico empire of disuse?

He cannot open a bar on the site as a ruling was made at the Magistrates court saying no more licenced premises can be opened in Hillsborough for 5 years. I think this was made either last year or the year before. This was as a result of so many local people opposing new licence applications and planning permmision applications for bars/pubs etc. So even if he wants to he'll never get a licence for that site.

I contacted both my local MP (Angel Smith) and the Area Panel about this problem and have received replies back from both. I directed them both to this site and they say the comments have been noted and passed on to the planning department. I quoted their own website about vacant/derelict buildings and they say they will look into the compulsory purchase issue.

Just waiting to hear back from the planning department and the infamous Town Centre Development guy Richie Collins (sp?).

make it into chav central

Can I just say well done FetishFairy for actually DOING something about this rather than just moaning. I also contacted Angel Smith MP a while back, so it's good to keep the pressure up. If enough people make a fuss then we might just see some results.

i have also put something else, not to sure what, but something better can be done,

Has anyone voted for an A bomb yet?

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Do you think if we (local people) got a petition together and went and lobbied Angela Smith that the council would actually take some notice of us? If so, anyone up for it?

I've just moved here and would support any non chav venue to the area! The is a lack of decent places to hang out :(

Yeah I noticed he had bought that, I had just assumed he was going to open another Hario's!

This isn't an ass suck but his pizza's are the best at the middlewood tram stop area!! (the worst by a country mile is that little green pizza shop you come to on the left going out of hillsborough, one of the first!! YUK!)

Would prolly do well in hillsborough centre but a lot of competition there doing similar things I guess.

Another pub would be good, its a shame.

Just build something...soon....it looks a mess and makes the rest of the area unappealing to shoopers.

I've voted for something else - some of the previous ideas in this thread are really good, like the idea of a good newsagents/bookshop. Please - not another bar or pork shop! There are obvious moves towards 'gentrification' in terms of people buying old houses and doing them up, more money around when you see this - so couldn't Hillsborough benefit from some of it being spent in the area? Its got a potentially great shopping centre, just need some great shops!

Perhaps he plans to buy up the whole of Hillsborough corner and turn it into a mosque! Any thoughts on this?
:gag:

The ex Shell garage on the corner of Penistone Road and Leppings Lane is being 'redeveloped' and is now sporting one of those lovely Hario's signs too!

yes,ive heard nico is going to do 3 things on the penistone rd/leppings lane site
1.a car lot
2.a hand wash for cars
3.a pizza shop
heard he was putting all 3 things there but there doesn't look that much room.If he did i think the traffic would be chaotic on that corner,it's already bad enough at peak times.
Whenever he buys a shop it's always left for years before he does anything with them.I think the man has more money than he knows what to do with.I could always help him out with that if he's stuck !

Originally posted by whisper
yes,ive heard nico is going to do 3 things on the penistone rd/leppings lane site
1.a car lot
2.a hand wash for cars
3.a pizza shop
heard he was putting all 3 things there but there doesn't look that much room.If he did i think the traffic would be chaotic on that corner,it's already bad enough at peak times.
Whenever he buys a shop it's always left for years before he does anything with them.I think the man has more money than he knows what to do with.I could always help him out with that if he's stuck !
Very imaginative,just what the area needs NOT!It just shows that money can not buy common sense or style.
My suggestion is that the whole area becomes a Hario's free zone.

Just a quick update.

I contacted the local area panel, and MP about this. I received an email today which said ....

"Following our correspondence below, the Derelict Buildings Team have issued a Pre-Notice to Nico, warning him of potential prosecution if the building becomes dangerous. This is not much, but is as much as the Council can do under its current powers, and at least shows that the Council has its eye on him. Hopefully it may produce some positive response by him.

Both the Area Panel and the new Town Centre Development Officer will continue to do all we can to put pressure on Nico to improve matters."

As she says, it's as much as they can do at the moment.

At least I tried!

Keep up the good work Fetish Fairy, and thanks for trying! I noticed there's a sign on one of the shops at the bottom of Wadsley Lane "acquired by Harios". Grrreat. :(

I have also lodged a complaint with the council on enviromental health grounds. Can I urge all of you to do the same, you only have to send an email. Lets keep the pressure on!

Having lived in the area for a while now, I have followed this thread, and others about Hillsborough with interest. I just wondered if there is any more news about Hillsborough Corner? I think its such a shame that a thriving centre like this has to look so down at heel. All around Hills. Corner needs smartening up - the weir could be lovely, in fact it did at the beginning of the year after it had been cleaned up. That lasted until the morons decided to once again chuck in their shopping trolleys and push chairs! Has cctv ever been suggested as an option on the bridge?

What Hillsborough needs is a mosque. As the new vogue religion of choice it seems strange that a rundown area such as Hillsborough Corner doesn't have one...

My witchcraft shop.

Nuff said.

Dragon

a series of adult bookshops, all in cut-throat competition with each other

:hihi:

How's about somewhere you can just chill out, a nice coffee shop or something. A complete Tram Ban would be nice and a witch craft shop would be very useful. Yeah Dragon!
Need a new set of Tarot that's all and a decent crystal ball.

A decent sports shop.

Originally posted by bigredbox
and a witch craft shop would be very useful. Yeah Dragon!


Yeah...and open a chocolate tea-pot shop next door..just what the residents of Hillsborough need.

For those of us who live near Hillsborouh Corner this is an important issue.
I have written to the council on several occassions about the state of the place and as yet have not received a reply. I will continue press.
However, I am given some hope by the news that the council have approved the building of luxury flats overlooking the weir behind the bank. I assume that developers will also press for something to be done, otherwise they will not be able to sell them and make a profit.

Alas people thinking about their own pockets is all we can hope for!

Has anyone heard anything recently about what's going to be done about the empty building on Hills. corner? I've lived here for a couple of years now and was really pleased when a centre manager was appointed but nothing has changed.......it still looks bloody awful!! Must say the weir's looking good since its recent annual clean up, if only the chavs could keep from steering shopping trollies into it!

I would like to see the money he owes to various people being paid.

Nuf_said.

just a nice clean, non smoking cafe bar would be nice. got mixed feelings about the opening of weatherspoons. more cheap booze for kids? or will it be a nice place?

Weatherspoons always seem a bit characterless. Somewhere that did nice food and coffees, that was non smoking would be great. Cafe uno, Starbucks, Costa or anything like that would do, it's got to be an improvement on what's there at the mo! Except obviously another bloody pork shop!!!

Nah Soosiepoosie, we don't want a chain! Well, only if a little independent one isn't forthcoming. I can't stand bloody Starbucks, Costa, etc. It's nicer to have something a bit less formula.

From reading these posts, what Hillaborough wants is a coffee shop with books, football boots, adult mags, witchcraft and chocolate teapots. Surely now we've done the market research someone could launch summat!! ;)

Well the planning application notice is up now outside The Deep End for a Weatherspoons pub.

As for Hillsborough corner, there does seem to be work going on in there now, plastering etc so lets hope someting is finally being done about it.

I noticed today that new windows are going into what was the old Oxfam shop, and the one next door on Holme Lane. The ex Greenwoods shop on the corner opposite Leg Ends also needs a new lease of life. How about a Tesco Metro or one of those little M&S for all those of us who don't want to shop in Morrisons/KwikSave/Co-op/Farmfoods. Saturday mornings, nice coffee, muffin and a browse through the papers, then pick up some goodies and head for home - no need to go into town. I could do that!

I noticed today that new windows are going into what was the old Oxfam shop, and the one next door on Holme Lane. The ex Greenwoods shop on the corner opposite Leg Ends also needs a new lease of life. How about a Tesco Metro or one of those little M&S for all those of us who don't want to shop in Morrisons/KwikSave/Co-op/Farmfoods. Saturday mornings, nice coffee, muffin and a browse through the papers, then pick up some goodies and head for home - no need to go into town. I could do that!

M&S @ Hillsboro corner! Can just see all the daytime drinkers from Legends popping out for a prawn sarnie to soak up the booze! Maybe not...

Have to agree about not wanting to shop Morrisons - anyone else think the standard of the fresh food there has deteriorated a great deal in the last year?

As for a Weatherspoon's at the Deep End... yawn, yawn... But is could be worse I suppose.

Why can't we have a nice 'grown up' wine bar/bistro type of affair. Too flouncy for the younger ones, which sells nice food. Like the ones on eccy road.

I think nico is appalling for letting this place run down to the state it is in now.

M&S @ Hillsboro corner! Can just see all the daytime drinkers from Legends popping out for a prawn sarnie to soak up the booze! Maybe not...

Not a chance I agree, doesn't bear thinking about! Lets face it, Legends is one extreme, I'd like to see a move some way towards the other extreme?

Also like your idea 20thc Fox!

Feargal, I do agree with you about not having a chain but it's got to be better than what's there at the mo. There was a plan for the old Greenwoods to become a betting shop, can't think of anything worse so in view of this one of the chain type cafes would be ok but obviously not as good as somewhere like blue moon or fob!

A Blades Fan With A Death Wish !!!

I vote for a good bookshop as well (with a cafe inside). I wouldn't mind Deep End becoming a Wetherspoons either - if no more licences are going to be given out it's our only chance for nice beer in the town centre. Could be worse though Hillsborough Hotel and Barracks are only ten minutes away (20 on the way back). So what has the infamous Nico done in the past? I'm new to the area and would like some gossip. If you don't think it's suitable for the thread, PM me. Which properties does he own, so that I can avoid them?

He owns most of Hillsborough so if you are wanting to avoid his businesses then i personally suggest you move! lol:)

I agree with Invalid user- a starbucks or a subway would be GREAT!!! :D

Soupcon ............

Nico is an arrogant, nasty piece of work with more money than decency. He doesn't live in Hillsborogh but thinks it's perfectly acceptable to buy any vacant property in the area and then leave it vacant for years on end. He leaves his properties to deteriorate and then tries to hold the local planning dept/council to ransom by saying he won't improve them unless they give him planning permission for whatever he wants to do to them, regardless of what they say. He really is NOT a nice person. I have spoken to hm face to face before and he becoame very threatening towards me because I stood up to him. He doesn't like people who's opinions differ from his own.

Avoid him and his properties/buisnesses like the plague!

What I can't work out is, why does he do it? How does he make any money out of them by letting them go to rack and ruin?

what i'd like to see is a decent Thai restaurant

Most of the businesses that people on the forum want existed in Hillsborough and on Infirmary Rd before the tram planted itsself on us.There were pubs that must have been profitable none have ever shut down,and shops very rarely became vacant.We had a swimming baths a decent sized Woolies,betting shops and newsagents,banks ,you could buy anything on that stretch of road all in walking distance of Hillsboro corner.Then came the tram and sadly despite all the promises from different organisations as to the future of Hillsborough we have ended up with a dump that seems to be sinking lower every week.

I wouldn't say Hillsborough was a dump but it could do with some improving! There's definately money to be spent as you can't get a decent 3 bed terrace now for less than a hundred grand and loads of houses are being done up, it's just a shame that people's money is being spent in town when it could be spent in Hillsborough.
Why can't Nico rent out these properties to businesses that would help improve the area, then he wouldn't have to make any effort himself and would be getting some return on his investment rather than people wanting to boycot whatever he decides to churn out!

would be nice to see a wednesdayites head on a spike just 2 remind us all that its the biggest s***ole in sheffield :hihi:

OK so let me see - a Wetherspoons where the Deep end was. Yep. A nice bookshop/coffee shop in Greenwoods. Yep. A small M&S on the Harios site. Yep. Avoiding all Nico's businesses and moving him back to where he belongs. Yep. Why not hand over the planning to the people whom it affects? It appears we could make a much better job than the people who are paid cast amounts of money to do it!

would be nice to see a wednesdayites head on a spike just 2 remind us all that its the biggest s***ole in sheffield :hihi:

Hillsborough is actually quite nice - only brought down by the stereotypical footie yob type, you know the kind I mean, join a forum just to make idiotic remarks that have nothing to do with what is being discussed.

The very last thing Hillsborough needs is a Wetherspoons opening till 1 in the morning.
Since the demise of the Deep End the corner has become relatively quiet at night.
For the first time in years you don't feel intimidated when walking through.
Only need to get rid of the Blue Ball's moronic babies now and the area might just begin to feel good again.
As for the corner a Tesco express would be good.

I agree with you Broncolives, a tesco express would be great or a wee marks and sparks. Don't really need another bar, think there's quite enough already! noticed brand new double glazed windows going into what used to be the Oxfam shop so hopefully will be utilised soon as a real eyesore. As for football yobs, if you don't like Hillsborough don't come, it's not rocket science :loopy:

no more pubs/bars - maybe a really nice restaurant or apartments

From what everyone has been saying, I think the old greenwoods should be a two story bookshop and cafe eg waterstones,
There could be a tesco metro in old Oxfam shop and a nice restaurant in whatever space is left.

But where will we all go to get discount fireworks and Christmas decorations from when these buildings get redeveloped? ;)

Book shop with cafe or an arts and crafts shop please.

Exactly Spanna! And what will the good people of S6 do for comedy reading material when there are no more 3 year old "Harios - Opening Soon!!" signs for us to laugh at. :o

I'm tempted to suggest a roundabout. it would get rid of that wreck of a building that used to be the Hillsborough Inn and speed up all that traffic which seems to want to get in and out of Hillsborough as quickly as possible.

Nooooooooooooooo, a roundabout?? What Hillsborough needs is a lovely cosy book cum coffee shop and a wee deli and other more upmarket places! Hopefully with the installation of the cameras at the tram gates there'll be less traffic thru Hills corner (yes I can live in hope!) Hillsborough is thriving at the mo so hopefully it won't be long before some astute businesses or individuals see it :banana: :banana:

Art & crafts centre (similar to cannon hall's)with a cafe would be an excellent addition to the area possibly linking in with the art/design department at the new Hillsborough college.

I will NEVER buy a Hario's pizza again in my life after they way they have treat my friends and I. From now on I will take my business to someone more deserving, even if it is more expensive.

Prostitutes

Er no, but what about in Ecclesfield eh?

Prositutes in Ecclesfield dont be silly, they would Starve to death.....no one goes there.....

:o How true, didn't think of that!

A 'Starbuck' coffee shop or 'Eat' cafe, possibly?

I'd like to see a well stocked newsagents.. One that has all the latest computer mags would be good so I can call in and read the mags like I used to when the GT in the Precinct was open :D

YES BRING BACK THE GT NEWS THAT ONCE WAS!

hillsb also need another photo place, Klicks is the only one and its expensive, and there is always a bloody que!!

there are loads of things that hillsborough needs a cafe/bar is not one of them, but i dont think flats are suitable located there, where would the access be? its a small corner.

My witchcraft shop.

Nuff said.

Dragon

there was one bit it burned down

I'd like to see an internet cafe as the only ones i know about are in town and broomhill.....

what about a massage parlor or a police station

Deli cum gorgeous coffee shop with nice comfy armchairs and lots of windows so I can sit with coffee/tea and cake and read a book. Trendy wine bar with lots of lovely food at night until 11...

Tell this Nico (whoever he is) Hillsborough is becoming more middle class (or so they say) yet there's only one (not very attractive) coffee shop in the area! I'll be happy to stay around there if there was an attractive venue.

PS must have plants and some "artwork". Tell Nico he can get this for free by arranging to hang local colleges' stuff in the hope of selling it...

A gibbet.

I can think of a few people to experience this.

It actually looks like this nico guy is doing up the property on hillsbro corner. All the windows have been replaced, and it looks like someone has made a start on the roof! All that remains to be seen is what it is going to be!

A stegosaurus.

went to hills yest....how scruffy is it???? the fruit and veg shops are jammed with old ladies, you get Q jumpers in greggs, wilkinsons smells funny and dunelms is a just a fire hazard grrrrr! the only nice thing about hill was the lil clothes shop that used to be opp HSBC b4 it turned into another smelly smokey cafe

Theres only one decent shop in Hillsborough and that's Ashfords.
Hillsborough has descended in to trampsville, not sure why as is didn't used to be like that.

It actually looks like this nico guy is doing up the property on hillsbro corner. All the windows have been replaced, and it looks like someone has made a start on the roof! All that remains to be seen is what it is going to be!


And what windows!

Disgusting plastic windows on what looks like a georgian building. There are some real no brainers in this city. Looks like another one here.

There's not much to chose between Duniek and Nico for damage to our buildings.

How about another pigsty to partner Swillsborough !!!

How about a bronze statute of some pigs, with an announcement every now and then like at Meadowhall “Could people losing family or friends please meet them at the pigs on Hillsborough corner”

I know it’s childish, but couldn’t resist, sorry.

went to hills yest....how scruffy is it???? the fruit and veg shops are jammed with old ladies, you get Q jumpers in greggs, wilkinsons smells funny and dunelms is a just a fire hazard grrrrr! the only nice thing about hill was the lil clothes shop that used to be opp HSBC b4 it turned into another smelly smokey cafe

Some rather offensive and strange remarks in above posting.

How do you quantify that these things only relate to Hillsborough?

Originally Posted by NatalieSheff
went to hills yest....how scruffy is it???? the fruit and veg shops are jammed with old ladies, you get Q jumpers in greggs, wilkinsons smells funny and dunelms is a just a fire hazard grrrrr! the only nice thing about hill was the lil clothes shop that used to be opp HSBC b4 it turned into another smelly smokey cafe

Some rather offensive and strange remarks in above posting.

How do you quantify that these things only relate to Hillsborough?

are old ladies not allowed to shop anymore then? this i disagree, with
but the Q jumpers in greggs are mainly the rude students that now haunt hillsb at lunch times, due to the new college, today they were milling outside brooks and i had barge past as excuse me didn't seem work.
Why is Dunelms a fire hazzard? the clothes shop that used to be opp hsbc where the riverside (which is smelly and scruffy) was posh and for skinny birds, the clothes never went above a size 12.

town is just the same if not worse, ever corner a coffee bar for the no hopers and dole dodgers to sit and waste my tax money, hillsb is getting scruffy but the shops that are there now have not changed all that much, its just the one's that have popped up and not done so well then have been left to ruin

some trendy shops like division street or top class like oasis/warehouse. there are no decent womens shops only tat

I'd like to see a giant dog crap bin so all the dog owners who let their pooches foul Taplin Road have somewhere to put all the crap. This would greatly improve the area and Taplin Road would no longer be known as S**t Alley.

As another benefit, the contents of said dog bin can them be liberally spread on the pitch at Hillsborough, as this will be a far better quality of S**t than what runs about every other Saturday in the guise of the first team:hihi:

Been to Hillsborough today and seen the new windows and work going off on the corner building. At last, an improvement! Looking at the previous posts, be pleased with the fact you still have lots of different shops and something is finally happening with the corner building. And I love the pig statue idea...

a bulldozer

I've had another idea. How about one of those 'paint your own ceramics' places?
With the amount of vacant properties on the corner there is plenty of room to have one of these AND a bookshop with cafe AND a deli.

mmm....deli....

A lovely way to while away a couple of hours on a Saturday afternoon :D

Anything except a pub, betting or pork shop would be great. It's about time people realised the great potential Hillsborough has! Hopefully the new centre manager will help with improving the place! :thumbsup:

I'd like to see a good deli in Hillsborough.
Also lacking is a book shop, and a coffee shop/bar, something that's open in the evening too. If it served food and didn't have loud music or sky TV it should keep the footie types out. Somewhere that you can get a bite to eat or meat up with friends for drink and a chat. Maybe like Nonnas on Ecclesall Rd.

Absolutely! Pig Statues Sponsored By Nico, I Love It!

There are alot of things happening in Hillsborough at the moment.For example there is a new Residents Association who are demanding changes in Hillsborough.They recently held a public meeting called stop the rot (Hillsborough Corner).Planning came along and the Area Panel to explain whats going on.It was vwery interesting.There is another meeting planned to talk about traffic issues in Hillsborough.

A Sheffield Utd Club Shop and ticket office!

There is another meeting planned to talk about traffic issues in Hillsborough.

Can you tell us when and where it is then? (At an appropriate time if not now).

There are alot of things happening in Hillsborough at the moment.For example there is a new Residents Association who are demanding changes in Hillsborough.
Get 'em to post details of meetings on here if you can - never even heard of the RA, let alone any meetings!

Out of interest, anyone know who is the centre manager and what exactly is he/she doing?

A Sheffield Utd Club Shop and ticket office!

Sheff utd.....who? Ohh the future laughing stock of the premiership! :D

A Subway definatly.........Sandwiches! we all love Sandwiches! :hihi:

A big statue of David Hirst

I would like to see at hillsborough corner a massive 3 deck grade seperated intersection so that the supertram, and road traffic can pass straight through without stopping. Those travelling from town to hillsborough would pass through hillsborough corner above roof level, and those travelling between the speedway track and malin bridge would be just above where the tram wires are. This would totally prevent traffic congestion at this intersection, while improving traffic flow and giving a bold statement to those who say concrete cannot be used in an attractive civil engineering scheme.

A MASSIVE sign saying 'Congratulations to Sheffield United on your promotion to the Premiership.'

A big statue of David Hirst

Too right!

A Subway definatly.........Sandwiches! we all love Sandwiches! :hihi:

Greggs > Subway.

Even if some of their staff are useless jobsworths, last week I was in the Fargate one, asked for cheese sarnie, no salad, daft bint put salad on :rant:

Do these people not listen?!

Everyone makes mistakes.

Sheff utd.....who? Ohh the future laughing stock of the premiership! :D

A bookshop stocking items on the history of SWFC (the past masters of laughing stock). It will give them something to cling too as the open top bus full of BLADES cruises through on the way to the premiership!!!!!!!!!

:wave: :wave: :wave: :wave:

A big statue of David Hirst

It would probably get some kind of damage to its leg and have to be put in storage for months on end...

Greggs > Subway.

Even if some of their staff are useless jobsworths, last week I was in the Fargate one, asked for cheese sarnie, no salad, daft bint put salad on :rant:

Do these people not listen?!

Bint!!!? Bit harsh.......Salads good for you anyway! :thumbsup:

Can you tell us when and where it is then? (At an appropriate time if not now).

yes id like to know where and when and would like to attend, i have some valid points to raise, not just with hillsborough corner, but hillsborough itself

yes id like to know where and when and would like to attend, i have some valid points to raise, not just with hillsborough corner, but hillsborough itself

1st Wednesday of each month, 6.30pm in the Sports Arena building at the side of the Park.

I think Hillsborough corner would be a good place to have a memorial of the Sheffield Flood. Apart from in the wilds of Bradfield, there's nothing to mark this catastrophic event in the city, and lots of people are not aware of it. Something sculptural on the corner building, or even on the island in the river.

That is a fine idea! There's no official monument in the city to the biggest event to happen in it in recent times.

I think Hillsborough corner would be a good place to have a memorial of the Sheffield Flood. Apart from in the wilds of Bradfield, there's nothing to mark this catastrophic event in the city, and lots of people are not aware of it. Something sculptural on the corner building, or even on the island in the river.

I think that could be a popular idea, along with cctv to spot the idiots who chuck rubbish into the weir :loopy: A memorial with some decent seats nearby, and some planting around it could look really good. But how long would it last?

HONF (Hillsborough and Owlerton Neighbourhood Forum) will be holding their AGM on 10th May 2006 at 7.30 at Hillsborough Arena(HASA, Just inside the park)There will be a presentation of The Hillsborough Town Centre Strategy which is a document setting a clear vision for Hillsborough.This has been developed over the past year and is still being consulted on.

The Residents Association have invited the Highways department to come and answer questions regarding traffic issues in Hillsborough.This meeting is on the 7th June @6.30 pm at HASA

The Town Centre Manager is Sue Lowry and she is based in Hillsborough Tabernacle Church.There is also a newly appointed neighood forum worker Chris Gardener and she is also based in the Tabernacle.

What happened to the last town centre manager, Richie somebody?

What would I like to see at Hillsborough corner - more police at nights.

What would I like to see at Hillsborough corner - more police at nights.

why this slim?? do u go down there at night? never seen ya.

I sometimes get a bus there. I have been there a few times and it is not always great when the pubs are chucking out.

A police station to monitior the thugs that think they own Hillsborough, or a nice wine bar to accommodate the students and young professionals of "New Hillsborough".

A police station to monitior the thugs that think they own Hillsborough, or a nice wine bar to accommodate the students and young professionals of "New Hillsborough".

NEW HILLSBOROUGH??? not heard anything about this?? has anyone else? nice wine bar- there's legends>.....

NEW HILLSBOROUGH??? not heard anything about this?? has anyone else? nice wine bar- there's legends>.....
Yeah? I’ve not been to Legends. Is it part of a chain? Does it get busy ever?

Yeah? I’ve not been to Legends. Is it part of a chain? Does it get busy ever?

legends- hmmmmm - yeh it gets busy... ask sazk23- :hihi: its usually full of **** heads and football thugs:)

not meaning that u go in there regular saz!!!!!!!!!!! hahaha!!! u know wat i mean!!

legends- hmmmmm - yeh it gets busy... ask sazk23- :hihi: its usually full of **** heads and football thugs:)
Which do you think I should organise the Sheff Uni male hockey teams "meet the streets" friday night out at? Legends or the Ball? Legends sound like it gets a bit frisky at times?

Which do you think I should organise the Sheff Uni male hockey teams "meet the streets" friday night out at? Legends or the Ball? Legends sound like it gets a bit frisky at times?

I dont go in Legends, i wouldn't recommend it for a nite out. Probs jus start in the Masons which is nice, then onto the shakey (miss the legends) then if ya fancy it onto ball. I'd then head into town, this would finish the nite off perfectly.
Ignore all the the threads about the ball, you can work out for yourself if you like the place or not :thumbsup:

Which do you think I should organise the Sheff Uni male hockey teams "meet the streets" friday night out at? Legends or the Ball? Legends sound like it gets a bit frisky at times?

get yo asses down the ball!! u might start a revolution!!!! :hihi: :hihi:

What happened to the last town centre manager, Richie somebody?

He was (and now Sue is) a development officer rather than a manager. He left to continue his legal career in the noth east.

After walking down Middlewood Rd today, I'd like to see shops and businesses without boarded up windows! I see the braindead have been on the rampage again. Can anyone enlighten me as to what attracts people to the sport of smashing windows? :loopy: Has anyone got a theory about where these people come from - do they live in Hillsborough, or just visit for the sport?:mad: :mad:

Rant over.

I'd like to see a well stocked newsagents.. One that has all the latest computer mags would be good so I can call in and read the mags like I used to when the GT in the Precinct was open :D

Maybe they closed down as no one could get to the magazinge's, for all the selfish fcukwits treating it as a library...

I'd like to see less of the thug/yob/ chav teenagers hanging around causing trouble and harrasing people. Wanting booze or cigs bought for them then abusing people who say no. Trying to cause mayhem on pushbike by riding directly at people on the footpath then moving at the last mnute, playing chicken with cars and trams in the road. The place wont improve untill this lot are delt with, I've more than had enough of them. :rant:

It would be easier to say what we dont want. YET ANOTHER TAKEAWAY. Hillsborough does not need anotherone of those. You ran another poll, but has anything come of that (what shops would we like to see in hillsborough). I think hillsborough would be nice if it was a bit like eccey road but not as posh, a proper shoping area with a selection of shops, bars and eating areas.
But it would be good to know if anything comes of these polls.
By the way there is another take out opening just above the queens ground pub, FAB!

a nice coffee shop/cafe is what is needed.

I'd like to see a well stocked newsagents.. One that has all the latest computer mags would be good so I can call in and read the mags like I used to when the GT in the Precinct was open :D

What the hell is your problem?

How many times do you have to bad mouth Newsagents down Hillsborough?

Time and again I've responded to you asking what mags you would like me to stock, and all you do is ignore me and make yet another pointless remark on another thread.

If all you do is read the mags in the shop, there's no wonder there aren't many newsagents around...

Just for the record I own Corner News across from the CO-OP, if any one else wants to open a newsagents down Hillsborough, and work 7 days a week, 364 days a year so that Mr TightWad can read your mags for nowt', then be my guest.....

Admin please delete my thread dated 01/05/08 - time 5.24 - just realised that I have responded to a thread that is years old, and therefore out of date.

Thanks

drections out of hillsborough.

I'd like to see a big smouldering crater when I pass later.

At the end of the day, all "Nico" wants to do is put "Chatanoga" out of business (due to past business relationshoips) and will stop at nothing to do so!






nico now owns chatanoga since it has moved shops

Its time somthing was done about the corner, compulsery purchase comes to mind if only to show" citizen kane" that its not what he wants but what the people of sheffield want, that will count in the end.The idea of flats in the middle of a shopping centre is just money grabbing unless of course there are shops or a pub or a diner underneath, in which case it won't be long before the residents are complaining about the smell / noise ect.
I wonder if our new M.P. will take an interest in this?or indeed our local council rep?
A petition is a very good idea it would give the local people a chance to find out just who it is thats making the corner look so run down, why their doing it, and how much they care about what people think!
Then a list of shops that they own could be shown and a good old fashoned boycott put into operation!

if you agree with this then why not help arrange a public meeting (see thread about meeting in hillsbrough)

with more and more propertys being bought by nico and left empty and falling apart is it not time we all did something about this. GET INVOLVED IN THE PUBLIC MEETING

It's all very well blaming this Nico character for all the ills of Hillsborough but the fact is that he could only buy those properties if the current owners businesses were no longer viable and the owners moved on. That happens because the locals won't give them their trade and so an opportunist like Nico comes onto the scene. He has risked his money to buy these places, whether or not that is a good decision remains to be seen, at the moment it doesn't seem to have been.

At the end of the day, all "Nico" wants to do is put "Chatanoga" out of business (due to past business relationshoips) and will stop at nothing to do so!

This post is 100% factual:thumbsup: (gald it's not only me who really knows about "Nico")!