Hi my mum has wanted a chihuahua since she was little so im planning on buying her one for her birthday does anyone have some for sale soon etc if anyone can pm me that would b great doesnt matter about the sex of the dog as she'll have it sprayed probably.

thank you

This may help

http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/item/384

If you havent got her one already have a look on epupz.com, this is where i found the breeder that i got my chi from. Argh im so jealous i want another one, they are amazing!!

There is one on the for sale section here under 'misc' i think. About 1 yr old but sounds lovely!!!! :) wanted a high price tho to say their main concern is a good home.

How much are they wanting?
I got mine from birmingham and when searching for her i noticed that all the breeders in south yorks were quite greedy in how much they want compared to those in other cities. Girls are more expensive than boys and so are KC reg, i personally wouldnt go for KC reg due to severe breeding and related health issues. Have a look a ittle further afield i think you will find it worth your while.
I can dig out the details of where i got poppy from if you like when im back in sheff and pm them to you?

Have a look on mobiya too. jus had a look at the one on here, 375 is really cheap even for a 1 year old, for a puppy your looking at the best part of £1000.

How much are they wanting?
I got mine from birmingham and when searching for her i noticed that all the breeders in south yorks were quite greedy in how much they want compared to those in other cities. Girls are more expensive than boys and so are KC reg, i personally wouldnt go for KC reg due to severe breeding and related health issues. Have a look a ittle further afield i think you will find it worth your while.
I can dig out the details of where i got poppy from if you like when im back in sheff and pm them to you?

What a load of crock!

You've obviously been watching the BBC and got the complete wrong end of the stick and therefore gone to a breeder who doesn't bother to KC reg and quite possibly not bother health checking either!

It's pedigrees that are at risk from problems due to irresponsible breeding - whether they're KC reg or not.

Not KC registering simply means you have no idea of their ancestory, health problems in the line and no guarantee that the bitch has not been bred from too early or too many times.

I would never recommend getting a pup from a breeder on epupz... yes there are a few - and I mean a few - good breeders on there but it's really just an ad site for breeders who couldn't be bothered to get a waiting list before making a few bucks from their unregistered bitch.

Sorry but it had to be said.

To the OP:
If you're serious about the chi, by all means look through the KC breeders list but also get together a list of questions you want to ask and if you have any doubts walk away. Ask the questions and see the parents before the pups - pups can be too cute to refuse.
The KC do their best but you have to have your wits about you as well.

Also, I suggest taking your mum with you - I know it won't be a surprise but better she choose really.

You could also go along to a dog show and have a look at the chi's there - see which you like (different lines can vary greatly), speak to the owners, ask to meet the chi, check out it's temperament etc. find the breeders who may even be at the show and speak to them, you'll get a good idea of what they do as far as health checks, ensuring they do not breed too early etc. be prepared to put your name down on a waiting list as opposed to buying one that's ready to go. Good breeders have a waiting list for pups and you may have to wait for the next litter, it should be as good a present for your mum to say 'you're on the waiting list for a chi pup' as actually presenting her with it.

Good luck and if you need any help - feel free to ask :)

Can you read lotti?? I said PERSONALLY! My chihuahua is perfectly healthy and i do have a history of her breading as approved by the vet thankyou. I checked thoroughly with the breeder and asked numerous questions. My vet checked her over very thoroughly when i got her and she is perfect.
The strict standards of the KC hold a lot of responsibility for those poor dogs that were suffering on that prog because they were so inbred to conform to KC standards. If it werent such a serious issue then why would the BBC have chosen not to show the very popular crufts, in which all dogs are KC?
KC is a load of balls unless you want to show your dog which i assume the OP probably wont. All KC does is give breeders the opportunity to hoik up the price.
As long as health checked by the vet any pup is as good as a KC one.

The BBC had to refuse Crufts because they showed the (incredibly biased) programme and it would've looked bad on their part.

Strange that if the BBC had such a problem with Crufts, why would they be eager to show it next year?? They were playing upto the public.

FYI it is the breed clubs that set breed standards, not the KC.

Those points made, I'm not arguing because quite frankly - I can't be arsed. I'm very glad that your dog is healthy (I did say there are a few good breeders) but to state that KC registered is a load of balls is very narrow minded and naive.

I would avoid epupz like the plague, personally like

Lotti I did not come on here to have an argument, i stated something that i wouldnt personally do and was attacked by you. I will stick with my feelings on KC and accept the fact that you do not agree with me, i am not narrow minded or naieve thankyou and it was my opinion. Just like i wont attack peaches comment to avoid epupz, even though i dont agree, because thats her opinion. I had a good experience with epupz and think if you are careful others can too.

Lotti I did not come on here to have an argument, i stated something that i wouldnt personally do and was attacked by you. I will stick with my feelings on KC and accept the fact that you do not agree with me, i am not narrow minded or naieve thankyou and it was my opinion. Just like i wont attack peaches comment to avoid epupz, even though i dont agree, because thats her opinion. I had a good experience with epupz and think if you are careful others can too.

I have seen alot of good quality breeders advertising on epupz but I would do alot of research before you buy, good breeders can also be found on Champdogs.

i have a 15 month old white chi, shes simply adorable was the most gorgous puppy !! looking to breed next year, shes pure white, small short haired. let me know if anyone interested in pups

I have a female longcoat white with blue on, I paid 1400, she is kc reg and all paperwork is here. This is a very good line and the colour is the reason for the high price.
If I were after another I would go on KC site look for a puppy on there.
The really cheap ones dont look like chihuahuas at all.

who ever you get your pup from be it a registered breader or not you have to be really carefull, just because some one has paper's dose not mean the dog is any better than one with out, although you would think for the extra price you pay it should be twice the dog. I Myself am one of these horrible people who have pup's and sold them on site's like epupz with no paper's im not a proper breader see, i dont have row's of bitche's lined up in kennel's ready to fill the order's on a waiting list nor do i have to get rid of pup after pup while im trying to bread the best for show, my poor dog's are just pet's they have to live in the house with me and i have made as sure as i can that all my pup's have gone to be pet's, not status symbol's or fasion item's. I'm sure if you look on here you will find plenty of horror story's from people who have bought from so called reputable breaders an some of the horrable thing's reputable breader's have done to there dog's. Just remember there are good an bad people in all walk's of life an this is no differant in the dog world.

I agree with you there, I have sold on Epupz and my vizslas are both champion sired and hip scored.
I have also bought from top show people who are awful. I bought a dog from a woman who won best in show and judged best in show at crufts and she was a foul mouthed monster who sold me a dog riddled with arthritis that had to be pts at 6.
My dogs and cats are all in the home and well loved.

me and my wife are breeder's and if you would like a dog please get in touch

credited breeders are probably the worst to get ur dogs frm i mean they do it for a business which emplys to me that they do it for a living i.e. to get money to live off, i got my "pedigree" dog frm an "accredited breeder" who had bred his bitch too early an was sellin the pup's for cheap! (he also now has sensitive skin which i believe to be through bad breeding) and once the man left he did not want to know how we were doin or anything. where as when i got my second dog of the same breed from a non-accredited breeder who did not KC register her pup's and she is a good healthy dog and the woman who we bought her frm has kept in touch with us for almost 2 years now and we regularly send pictures and updates to eachother, and anyway whats the point in KC registry when people can jus buy a printing program to print them theirselves? jus to be able to charge more for it? i just think it is total and complete rubbish ! and jus because a dog has kc papers doesnt make it any better than any other i had a mongrel pup i picked uf off the street for 18 years and he only ever went to the vets once in his life ... for a grass seed that was stuck dwn his ear lol

personally i agree with magick and jan2665 just because you have papers doesnt mean you are a reputable breeder there are far more cases of animal cruelity in large scale breeding then with people having pups with there pets at home. i didnt see this bbc programme but i cant believe that such a long standing tv station would lie or over exaggerate a problem they have investigated, i dont claim to know all the in and outs of the dog breeding world but im intitled to my own opinion which i have formed from the info i have seen and read, everyone has a right to there own opinion without been labelled niave or forced in to any argument afterall this site is about peoples opioins and thoughts.

the parents of all our pups go to show's and are of quility breeding they are show winner's it is not just a money breeding buisness we love our dogs and they are one of the best set's of dogs money can buy we bye dog's from places like the u.s.a my wife is polish and that is where we show and breed our dogs

the parents of all our pups go to show's and are of quility breeding they are show winner's it is not just a money breeding buisness we love our dogs and they are one of the best set's of dogs money can buy we bye dog's from places like the u.s.a my wife is polish and that is where we show and breed our dogs

i like that you have first stated that its not about the money, but then you have gone and contradicted yourself by then saying "that they are the best dogs money can buy" i think that proves my point.

credited breeders are probably the worst to get ur dogs frm i mean they do it for a business which emplys to me that they do it for a living i.e. to get money to live off, i got my "pedigree" dog frm an "accredited breeder" who had bred his bitch too early an was sellin the pup's for cheap! (he also now has sensitive skin which i believe to be through bad breeding) and once the man left he did not want to know how we were doin or anything. where as when i got my second dog of the same breed from a non-accredited breeder who did not KC register her pup's and she is a good healthy dog and the woman who we bought her frm has kept in touch with us for almost 2 years now and we regularly send pictures and updates to eachother, and anyway whats the point in KC registry when people can jus buy a printing program to print them theirselves? jus to be able to charge more for it? i just think it is total and complete rubbish ! and jus because a dog has kc papers doesnt make it any better than any other i had a mongrel pup i picked uf off the street for 18 years and he only ever went to the vets once in his life ... for a grass seed that was stuck dwn his ear lol

Of course you'll get good and bad on both sides. I don't think I ever denied that. Research must be done wherever you go.

The breeder I went to for my pup is a 'professional breeder' so to speak, KC registered, etc. but no - she works, as does her husband. She simply could not live on what she 'makes' out of breeding dogs (nothing).

The breeder I plan to go to for my next pup is a KC 'porfessional breeder' etc. and she has her own business in dog training and behaviour because again, she couldn't make a living out of breeding dogs.

These people do it right, they don't have kennels and kennels full of dogs so they're not constantly breeding litters. I will have to wait until they have a litter planned that isn't fully reserved.

Oh yeah - they also health test (with clear results) and socialise their pups.

But I know there is good on both sides, but my previous points stand. Breeders shouldn't need to advertise on epupz etc. If your dogs are that good, why are there no waiting lists for them? Why do you have to advertise them on what is basically a classifieds site for living things?

And for anyone who hasn't noticed this thread is really old. So I think it's just somewhere for a discussion now rather than looking for a puppy (I don't know if the OP is still looking but it was a long time ago).

lotti you are right this is now a conversation about breading. you are now contradicting what you are always preaching, that anyone who is not a registered breader is some sort of cruel puppy farmer and all professional breader's are in it for the good of the bread. I have been offended by you and your view's before, so could you please explain to me why "a professional breader" is good and some one like me is so bad.

me and my wife are breeder's and if you would like a dog please get in touch



A breeder that posts this??:confused: :suspect:
http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=523477

[QUOTE=Bramwen7;5604433]A breeder that posts this??:confused: :suspect:
http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=523477[/QU

strange isnt it that someone says one minute "can they have some medical help for their dog for free"..... when in another thread they are boasting of their "best sets of dogs money can buy" and saying that they purchase dogs from the u.s.a, and that they travel their to show their dogs?:huh:?

that quote was over a year ago, benefit of the doubt here peoples situations change?

that quote was over a year ago, benefit of the doubt here peoples situations change?

when was this? it dose look like it was posted today.

that quote was over a year ago, benefit of the doubt here peoples situations change?

august 2008 is his join date above his name in the thread in the link it says today at 13:48pm

lotti you are right this is now a conversation about breading. you are now contradicting what you are always preaching, that anyone who is not a registered breader is some sort of cruel puppy farmer and all professional breader's are in it for the good of the bread. I have been offended by you and your view's before, so could you please explain to me why "a professional breader" is good and some one like me is so bad.

Sorry you have been offended by my posts. I don't believe I ever said that 'a professional breeder is good'.

I still hold the view that I don't understand why a 'good breeder' wouldn't KC register, however, I have always known and agreed that you can get good dogs from non KC registered breeders and that you can definitely get badly bred dogs from KC registered breeders.

I have not seen your set up, I have never seen your dogs but I chose not to breed from my bitch (though her breeder was keen to help me every step of the way) for my own reasons but if I had, I know I would've chosen to breed only once I'd got a waiting list for them and therefore not needed the likes of Epupz, they would've been KC registered - not to get more money for them, but to have a proof of their lineage (yes I know some get through the net but I would trust a KC pedigree far more than a home printed one).

To be fair, Jan - my posts from before were posted about a long, long time ago. I'm pretty sure I've chilled out a bit with regards to dogs (I think it comes with age) but I'm also sure that I'm more able to put my point across in a more diplomatic and subtle way now - perhaps my intent in the previous posts wouldn't have offended you but the way in which they were posted made them seem worse.

Yes, I can acknowledge that there are people who truly care about their dogs and rear them well and keep in touch with their puppy owners etc. etc. who don't KC register. I'm also sick and tired of hearing about 'KC dogs have health problems' (in fact that was probably why my posts were sooo far the other way!) because there really are great KC reg. breeders out there.

I still don't like the idea of buying from someone who advertises on epupz or any other classifieds though I'm afraid - I still feel there should be a waiting list in place, otherwise why are they breeding?

Again, my apologies for offending you in the past. It's not my intention to offend anyone and I'm actually quite nice :)

Sorry - reading without my specs again :hihi:

Sorry - reading without my specs again :hihi:

its ok i dont even need glasses and i do it sometimes :P lol but i still think its strange that he is asking for free medical care for his dog, in the same day that he is also bragging about his best dogs money can buy and that he buys dogs frm the u.s.a and shows them their, and saying he is a breeder who can sell CuteyKat a dog???:huh:???

I wouldn't even give them the satisfaction of rising to it... can't care much for their show dogs though

thank you for the apologie, i do accept now you have made it clearer that you know it works both way's. I don't keep a waiting for the simple reason i do not plan that far head i like to make sure my bitch is in top health befor a litter and i would feel pressured into breading if i had a list of people waiting, an then what if its a small litter or none at all, I like to see what sort of temperament my pup's have so i am better able to find the right dog for the right home, an this takes more time and effort than just matching pup 1 to family 1 on the list. The reason i do not kc register is so they are less likely to become breading stock, you can't charge top price's without paper's so are only bought as pet's.

not Reg'ing them actually makes it harder, there are endorsements and contracts you can put in place to prevent this

the fact they have no paper's make them half the value so there's no big money to be made work's better than the kc say's you cant.

doesn't stop them though does it ;)

thank you for the apologie, i do accept now you have made it clearer that you know it works both way's. I don't keep a waiting for the simple reason i do not plan that far head i like to make sure my bitch is in top health befor a litter and i would feel pressured into breading if i had a list of people waiting, an then what if its a small litter or none at all, I like to see what sort of temperament my pup's have so i am better able to find the right dog for the right home, an this takes more time and effort than just matching pup 1 to family 1 on the list. The reason i do not kc register is so they are less likely to become breading stock, you can't charge top price's without paper's so are only bought as pet's.

Thanks Jan :)

I accept your reason for not KC registering, although like Peaches - I would point out the KC Endorsement. A dog with a breeding endorsement is as good as a dog without papers when it comes to breeding, so just like your reasoning - there is no money to be made from a dog with no papers. If your dog has endorsements, you won't get papers for it. Does that make sense?

I can see what you mean about the waiting list in a way - and it's really refreshing to hear from someone who wants to take the time over it as opposed to so many threads on here 'my bitch is in season - anyone got a dog?' :rolleyes:

However, if I was looking for a pup from a breeder (I'm not at the moment but I know where my next pup is coming from lol) I would rather wait til they'd found the right match etc. and never really thought about them feeling pressured because I would rather they spent time over it. However, I can appreciate not all situations are like this. I wouldn't have been quite as patient with my first pup it just so happened that I was referred to a breeder who's bitch had had 13 pups! (Let's face it you don't get a full waiting list for 13 pups!) and perhaps if someone has lost their dog they'll be in more of a hurry - so I can see your point to an extent :)

Thanks for clarifying and I hope you have no cause to be offended by me in the future!

look's like jasonjlg has proved the point you can't alway's trust what a dog breader say's.

Can you read lotti?? I said PERSONALLY! My chihuahua is perfectly healthy and i do have a history of her breading as approved by the vet thankyou. I checked thoroughly with the breeder and asked numerous questions. My vet checked her over very thoroughly when i got her and she is perfect.
The strict standards of the KC hold a lot of responsibility for those poor dogs that were suffering on that prog because they were so inbred to conform to KC standards. If it werent such a serious issue then why would the BBC have chosen not to show the very popular crufts, in which all dogs are KC?
KC is a load of balls unless you want to show your dog which i assume the OP probably wont. All KC does is give breeders the opportunity to hoik up the price.
As long as health checked by the vet any pup is as good as a KC one.

I am very sorry it is not in my nature to enter such debates. However I do feel you totally mis represent the KC and are simply regurgitating media Hype. Why would a KC reg puppy be any more or less in bred than a non KC reg puppy? This is a dangerous myth that perpetuates the cruelty of puppy farms.

I am very sorry it is not in my nature to enter such debates. However I do feel you totally mis represent the KC and are simply regurgitating media Hype. Why would a KC reg puppy be any more or less in bred than a non KC reg puppy? This is a dangerous myth that perpetuates the cruelty of puppy farms.

That's what I was trying to say! Fare more eloquently put, well done md1ba! :lol:

*Goes off in search of her A Level English certificate to burn it*

Give over Lotti I'm doing an English degree and I can't always make myself understood :hihi: