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Every day i walk around the city centre and all i see is little 15 year old girls who look rather like prostitutes! If these are your daughters, they could be in danger because, recently there has been a murder of a prostitute in the Sheffield area! It has even been on Crimewatch!
Watch out :thumbsup:
Kaidi
I totally agree. Its shameful how young girls feel they have to look like men in drag... well some :D
So it's not just that I'm old then? It is them?
Im afraid so...this generation of young girls have been led a stray... :|
Originally posted by Kaidi
Every day i walk around the city centre and all i see is little 15 year old girls who look rather like prostitutes! If these are your daughters, they could be in danger because, recently there has been a murder of a prostitute in the Sheffield area! It has even been on Crimewatch!
Watch out :thumbsup:
Kaidi
ermm, that's just fear mongering. There's a clear difference between a girl dressed up (however you wish to characterise it) and an actual prostitute.
Originally posted by Kaidi
Im afraid so...this generation of young girls have been led a stray... :|
how would you like them to dress then, and who has been doing this leading astray.
Originally posted by Cyclone
ermm, that's just fear mongering. There's a clear difference between a girl dressed up (however you wish to characterise it) and an actual prostitute.
Could you tell the difference? ;)
so you think that we should be judged by what we wear then? I have a 15 year old daughter and should i start making her life a misery just because theres Pervs out there? MY daughter is no pro! ALthough i do understand what point you are trying to make. We are all our own person and we all cant be blamed and made to suffer for the action of one.
There does seem to be an ever stronger trend for young kids to dress like adults on a night on the town...but having grown up and looked back on the years it seems such a foolish thing for a child to ape an adult all through those formative years...childhood passes so quickly and you find that there are decades stretching ahead when you'll be forced into the role of an adult, who could then look back and regret having been a child when the chance was presented to them?
Originally posted by Cyclone
ermm, that's just fear mongering. There's a clear difference between a girl dressed up (however you wish to characterise it) and an actual prostitute.
Girl bands, stereotypical men, and things on T.V that lead their minds into a materialistic world. Girls and boys feel that they must dress like and do things that the older, student type generation does!
Originally posted by Kaidi
Girls and boys feel that they must dress like and do things that the older, student type generation does!
I know many students...and only a small percentage of them walk around dressed like prostitutes.:D
A small percentage can make alot of difference... :hihi:
AJ sheffield 16-06-2005, 11:20 There was a prog on tv recently that showed lingerie and padded bras for 6 to 8 year olds. How young do some mothers want their kids to start looking sexually attractive.
I have to drive through the industrial estate at the bottom of Rutland rd sometimes, its littered with prostitutes. I must admit the 15 year olds I see dont look like any of them.
Originally posted by Kaidi
A small percentage can make alot of difference... :hihi:
How, and how do you know they are 15?
Originally posted by Carmine
There does seem to be an ever stronger trend for young kids to dress like adults on a night on the town...
That adult on the town is dressing in that way to atrtract the attention of the opposite sex though. As that is the objective, perhaps our 15 year olds should be offered some guidance as to the dangers of what boils down to shoving their sexuality in people's faces?
Perhaps not...but you hav'nt been to my part of town... :D
Originally posted by Snook
How, and how do you know they are 15?
Because they never shut up when they fancy you basically. You can learn alot from five minutes with a prosti-wannabe!
Originally posted by AJ sheffield
There was a prog on tv recently that showed lingerie and padded bras for 6 to 8 year olds.
And we all think this is socially acceptable, but despise paedophiles. :roll:
Why do we allow our children to stand out as potential victims?
Originally posted by Kaidi
Because they never shut up when they fancy you basically. You can learn alot from five minutes with a prosti-wannabe!
So you go up to and converse with these 15 year old girls who are dressed 'like prostitutes'?
Originally posted by Strix
That adult on the town is dressing in that way to atrtract the attention of the opposite sex though. As that is the objective, perhaps our 15 year olds should be offered some guidance as to the dangers of what boils down to shoving their sexuality in people's faces?
I agree totally.
I feel that plain and sensible education in such matters as well as not shying away from teaching kids about the realities of sex would go a long way to help with this issue.
I'm always glad that my Dad was a bit of an old-fashioned type when it came to materialism and the urge to have the latest fashions and be "in" all the time.
I can't think of anyone else who denounced "The Price is Right" as a glorification of abject greed.
Originally posted by Snook
So you go up to and converse with these 15 year old girls who are dresses 'like prostitutes'?
Can you read properly! look at the whole of the thread and then start trying to argue with me :hihi:
Originally posted by Kaidi
Could you tell the difference? ;)
pretty sure that I could actually.
Firstly, are they hanging around mappin street or neepsend, do they look rough, are they on their own, and are they eyeing up passing cars.
If the answer is, no they are in a group, in the centre of town talking loudly and ignoring passers by, then they are not prostitutes.
And whilst we're talking about your scaremongering, was the prostitute who was killed, killed in the open, or had she gone with her "client" to somewhere a little more secluded? If it's the latter, then it's not likely to happen to a 15 year old who just happens to be dressed provocotively.
Originally posted by Strix
That adult on the town is dressing in that way to atrtract the attention of the opposite sex though. As that is the objective, perhaps our 15 year olds should be offered some guidance as to the dangers of what boils down to shoving their sexuality in people's faces?
did you not have a boyfriend or were interested in boys at the age of 15? They are dressing like that for hte opposite sex.
Originally posted by Cyclone
pretty sure that I could actually.
Firstly, are they hanging around mappin street or neepsend, do they look rough, are they on their own, and are they eyeing up passing cars.
If the answer is, no they are in a group, in the centre of town talking loudly and ignoring passers by, then they are not prostitutes.
And whilst we're talking about your scaremongering, was the prostitute who was killed, killed in the open, or had she gone with her "client" to somewhere a little more secluded? If it's the latter, then it's not likely to happen to a 15 year old who just happens to be dressed provocotively.
I can see you have had alot of experience with prostitutes!
AJ sheffield 16-06-2005, 11:30 It seems that childhood is becoming shorter with every generation. Kids are under constant pressure to "grow up". I have seen girls with tattoos on their backs and thongs up to thier shoulders who must be about 14 years old. Why are kids being allowed to have these tattoos at such an early age, Are they being done proffesionally or by home based ex tattooists.
Originally posted by Kaidi
Can you read properly! look at the whole of the thread and then start trying to argue with me :hihi:
I wasn't arguing, I asked how you knew they were 15... Do you not talk to them then? If not, again, how do you know how old they are? I was just wondering because I imagine that many 15 year olds who dress up and put on make-up would look a lot older.
Originally posted by Kaidi
Because they never shut up when they fancy you basically. You can learn alot from five minutes with a prosti-wannabe!
can we infer from this that you are a 15 year old boy? Do you have an indepth knowledge of prostitutes and how they dress then?
Originally posted by Kaidi
I can see you have had alot of experience with prostitutes!
I can see you've not had a lot with life.
Ever watched Big Brother?
Originally posted by Kaidi
Ever watched Big Brother?
Have you been on it? Explains a lot!
Originally posted by Kaidi
Ever watched Big Brother?
No, I try to avoid trash on the tv.
Originally posted by Cyclone
No, I try to avoid trash on the tv.
to right...
AJ sheffield 16-06-2005, 11:35 There are however 15 year old prostitutes working from Neepsend. I was picking spares up from that car parts suppliers once and saw it with my very own eyes. 15, maybe even younger. I saw the lad drop her off then stand round the corner and then the old fella in the gold lexus pick her up.
Originally posted by Snook
Have you been on it? Explains a lot!
No unfortunatley... but have you? You remind me of leslie you see...
Originally posted by Cyclone
And whilst we're talking about your scaremongering, was the prostitute who was killed, killed in the open, or had she gone with her "client" to somewhere a little more secluded? If it's the latter, then it's not likely to happen to a 15 year old who just happens to be dressed provocotively.
It's scary how many children :mad: are flattered enough by the attention of an adult to do something really stupid, just coz they don't know how stupid they are being.
I know becase I went to school with them, went to college with them, still know far too many of them.....
Are women basically stupid? :confused: :rant:
Rant over :D
Swan_Vesta 16-06-2005, 11:37 I think everybody has the right to dress how they like.
If they want to dress like a common street walker and have all sorts of body parts on display aged 15, just don't be suprised when I look down my nose at them. I believe in calling a split arse a split arse. :D
Originally posted by Cyclone
did you not have a boyfriend or were interested in boys at the age of 15? They are dressing like that for hte opposite sex.
At the age of 15 I lived in a village in Lincolnshire. Rolling your jeans up was hardly in the same league :roll:
And turning up to Roxy's on a Monday dressed in very little and spiky boots was something I did in layers. I checked my ankle length skirt into the cloakroom :D I wouldn't be caught dead walking the streets atracting attention from the wrong sort of people :rolleyes:
Originally posted by Swan_Vesta
I think everybody has the right to dress how they like.
If they want to dress like a common street walker and have all sorts of body parts on display aged 15, just don't be suprised when I look down my nose at them. I believe in calling a split arse a split arse. :D
Not if it puts their life in jepordy
Originally posted by Kaidi
No unfortunatley... but have you? You remind me of leslie you see...
Is that a man or a woman?
When you talk about these 15 year old girls, do you mean out at night in bars and nightclubs, or just generally walking about?
If people really believe that childhood is over too soon now, we should bring in harsher laws to stop the drinking culture. I think that making the drinking age 21 and requiring ID for anyone who looks under 30 would help, but I doubt many people would support that.
Originally posted by Kaidi
Not if it puts their life in jepordy
so people don't have the right to put their own life in jeopardy?
You don't work for the government do you?
Originally posted by Kaidi
Not if it puts their life in jepordy
So you're saying that someone who wouldn't normally kill or rape a woman will do so because of the way they dress? If not, how does it put their life 'in jepordy'?
Originally posted by Snook
So you're saying that someone who wouldn't normally kill or rape a woman will do so because of the way they dress? If not, how does it put their life 'in jepordy'?
The way they dress puts them in jeoperdy...the way they dress invites the oppurtunity for a rapist or killer...
Originally posted by Snook
So you're saying that someone who wouldn't normally kill or rape a woman will do so because of the way they dress? If not, how does it put their life 'in jepordy'?
You are too young to know about the yorkshire ripper then?
Originally posted by Strix
You are too young to know about the yorkshire ripper then?
You're suggesting that he was a normal person who only killed because of the way women dressed?
I think it is more likely that he had mental problems and would have killed women anyway.
Originally posted by Kaidi
The way they dress puts them in jeoperdy...the way they dress invites the oppurtunity for a rapist or killer...
I think this is a dangerous statement, as it could lead people to believe that they won't be attacked if they dress down because it has some relation to why an attacker would choose them... which isn't true.
Originally posted by Kaidi
The way they dress puts them in jeoperdy...the way they dress invites the oppurtunity for a rapist or killer...
invites the opportunity??? you what?
If a rapist or killer was looking for a victim, why would he single out a 15 year old dressed provocatively, or why is it any worse that he would single out a 15 year old rather than a 25 year old, I presume you'd allow 25 year olds to dress as they like?
What is your real issue with them dressing like this, as concern for their safety doesn't come across as very sincere or genuine.
Swan_Vesta 16-06-2005, 11:52 Originally posted by Kaidi
The way they dress puts them in jeoperdy...the way they dress invites the oppurtunity for a rapist or killer...
I disagree with you there, unsavory elements of society won't give a monkeys if a girl is dressed like a tart, in school uniform or covered from head to toe in a burqa. 15yr old girls are at risk which is an unsavoury fact but fact nonetheless - Just the same as any other member of society.
You'll be telling me next that 80yr old grandmothers, 50 yr old blind, deaf and dumb men and 18 month old babies all dressed provocatively which led to their rapes next.
Originally posted by Kaidi
The way they dress puts them in jeoperdy...the way they dress invites the oppurtunity for a rapist or killer...
There have been daft comments like this made by people as high up as judges in the past...why would a rapist wait for a provocativly dressed vicitm?
Originally posted by Kaidi
The way they dress puts them in jeoperdy...the way they dress invites the oppurtunity for a rapist or killer...
I sense your hostility towards girls who dress in this way. Didn't Peter Sutcliffe have the same feelings?
You seem to be absolving the perpetrator of the offences you mention and instead blame the victims. That is worrying and not right.
I think you should seek some counselling before these “feelings” get out of control.
Oh dear, here we go again
I thought we had done this topic to death on several occasions already
I am not sure that all 15 years old girls dress like prostitutes. Sheffield prostitutes I have seen tend to wear very short skirts and high heels, so I am going to assume you mean that.
Why do (some) 15 year old girls wear short skirts and high heels? Probably it must be the fashion, assuming it is true although I thought all 15 year old girls wore those trousers where the waistband is somewhere close to their bikini line, I rarely see young girls in skirts.
Most girls wear most clothes for two connected reasons. Because it is fashionable and they want to fit in with everyone else and because they hope their friends and members of the sex they are attracted to will think them attractive.
That is the answer to your written question.
I suspect it is not what you really wanted to say though.
You are trying to suggest I think that dressing provocatively could cause out-of-control blokes to attack and hurt these girls.
That is unfortunately true. There are a staggering amount of blokes out there who attack women, you only had to watch crimewatch last night to see that. I am not over exaggerating, as a woman I am appalled by the sheer numbers of sex assault cases reported in the news every single day of the week.
The age old argument though has always been about a woman's right to wear what she likes without fear of being attacked by a man. Us women think we should be free and safe to wear what we like and (some of) you men think we shouldnt.
Well that is not true either, (some of ) you men think we should wear provocative clothes, but only when you say so, when it is you that wants to look at us, but you dont want other men to look at us, except sometimes when you do because it makes you look good to have a girlfriend dressed like that....
Men should learn to control themselves, that is what I think.
We should put bromide in the water supply
But I know it wont happen - that (some) men will learn to control themselves - and I know (some) men (and boys) will go on blaming the girls and their clothes for their own behaviour.
One likes to hope that "she was asking for it" will one day be a thing of the past, but we all know it wont be.
It is a terrible shame and I genuinely do not know if anyone will ever find a solution to it.
Originally posted by Snook
You're suggesting that he was a normal person who only killed because of the way women dressed?
I think it is more likely that he had mental problems and would have killed women anyway.
He killed women who he identified as prostitutes :roll:
Originally posted by Belle
you men think we should wear provocative clothes, but only when you say so, when it is you that wants to look at us, but you dont want other men to look at us, except sometimes when you do because it makes you look good to have a girlfriend dressed like that....
Men should learn to control themselves, that is what I think.
I like your style and totlaly agree, but until men can control themselves, I'm going to carry on being choosy what outfit I wear where :thumbsup:
Originally posted by Belle
...(some of ) you men think we should wear provocative clothes, but only when you say so, when it is you that wants to look at us, but you dont want other men to look at us, except sometimes when you do because it makes you look good to have a girlfriend dressed like that....
Men should learn to control themselves, that is what I think.
Thanks for putting those two words in brackets...and I mean that in all sincerity.
Originally posted by Strix
I like your style and totlaly agree, but until men can control themselves, I'm going to carry on being choosy what outfit I wear where :thumbsup:
so allow everyone the same freedom to choose.
Originally posted by Kaidi
Every day i walk around the city centre and all i see is little 15 year old girls who look rather like prostitutes! If these are your daughters, they could be in danger because, recently there has been a murder of a prostitute in the Sheffield area! It has even been on Crimewatch!
Watch out :thumbsup:
Kaidi
erm :loopy: :wave:
I work in town and have done for the last 7 years. I know what you are talking about but but it simply isn't there most of the time. Yes on a wekend lots of girls dress like prostitutes (as you so nicely put it) However, to say 15 year old girls dress more alluringly than 25 year old girls is a falsehood.
Yes, underage girls will wear a lot of make up/show a lot of flesh to get in places/get served but a lot of women dress pretty similarly for a night out.
Thank God we haven't got the climate for an open air swimming pool . Think of all those "dirty" 15 year old in bikinis....:rolleyes:
Who cares what they wear? Stop with the scare mongering rubbish. People who come out with that kind of stuff worry me...
Originally posted by Cyclone
so allow everyone the same freedom to choose.
I do. But it is still a parent's responsibility to offer guidance on 'cause and effect' when a 15 year old is 'making their own decisions'
Originally posted by Strix
I do. But it is still a parent's responsibility to offer guidance on 'cause and effect' when a 15 year old is 'making their own decisions'
i completely agree with this, although I remember the arguments about clothing between my parents and younger sister at that age.
I don't like it, there I am walking down the street and I think wooo nice body, she gets closer and I think cr*p she's only about 15, whats she doing?
Whilst my interest immediately fades, with others it doesn't.
I think parents should draw a line.
I notice that the OP has gone quiet.
I'm 23, and when I look back at the stuff I wore when I was 16 I cringe. Teeny tiny skirts, knee-high leather boots, tight and revealing tops, tonnes of make-up, ect. ect.
I will fully admit that I probably looked like a hooker!
But it's all part of growing up. I was just becoming aware of my sexuality and enjoying dressing up and being flamboyant. I certainly never behaved like a hooker - in fact I was very innocent at that age, more so than many of my classmates, even the ones who dressed more 'conservatively'.
So I say, if teen girls want to parade around like that - let them. They will probably look back and cringe, but you're only young once.
And what harm does it do, as long as your savvy when you're out and about? I think dressing in that way makes them look a lot younger, because girls in their early 20s tend to cover up a bit more.
Mod:
I noticed that the OP has only posted on the 1 topic.
So he / she is either a troll, or has a problem related to 15 year old girls'
I suggest that you let this thread die.
spyro2000 16-06-2005, 12:34 Originally posted by Tony
Mod:
I noticed that the OP has only posted on the 1 topic.
So he / she is either a troll, or has a problem related to 15 year old girls'
I suggest that you let this thread die.
I was just thinking the same thing. I havent bothered to post on this topic as others have been making the same points as I would have made anyway. How about you close it off mod???
Perhaps he or she is in classes or at work or on holiday
You cant go round closing down threads because the original poster has not spoken on it for a few hours...
Originally posted by Tony
So he / she is either a troll
Damn, there used to be a time when you only used to get trolls in role play games and fantasy books! but with the days of the internet they seem to be popping up all over the place...
wonder why BT can fit lines in caves for trolls but it took them 2 years to get a line out to me on the suburbs of a major city? :? the mind boggles!
anyways, I think the main issue with this person is the fact he "got with" one of these 15yr olds thinkin she's older and wants justifcation for feeling bad by getting caught with jail bait ;)
and I whole heartidly agree with what Belle said... women should be able to wear what they like, just as guys can...
Don_Kiddick 16-06-2005, 12:44 Originally posted by madowl
so you think that we should be judged by what we wear then? I have a 15 year old daughter and should i start making her life a misery just because theres Pervs out there? MY daughter is no pro! ALthough i do understand what point you are trying to make. We are all our own person and we all cant be blamed and made to suffer for the action of one.
Madowl, aren't we all judged on what we wear?
Suits for interviews, designer gear for clubbing, Burberry for the races :D?
It's inevitable that being judged negatively will occur as we all have different ideas of dress codes / appropriateness. ;)
don't close it, i'd like to explore his psychological problems a little further if he comes back.
Originally posted by Snook
How, and how do you know they are 15?
Because "Kirky" served em beer :hihi: :hihi:
Originally posted by Tony
Mod:
I noticed that the OP has only posted on the 1 topic.
So he / she is either a troll, or has a problem related to 15 year old girls'
I suggest that you let this thread die.
It has been moving so fast that it has been virtually impossible to read all the posts and reply too.
Perhaps Kaidi wasn't anticipating such an interest in this topic?
Perhaps this person is a parent with a teenager who's claim is 'everybody else thinks....' ;)
Originally posted by Strix
It has been moving so fast that it has been virtually impossible to read all the posts and reply too.
Perhaps Kaidi wasn't anticipating such an interest in this topic?
Perhaps this person is a parent with a teenager who's claim is 'everybody else thinks....' ;)
if it's the latter then they should have just come out and said so. But given the response to "how do you know they are 15" i'd suggest that he's a boy of a similar age with some sort of fried potato product on his shoulder.
Originally posted by Cyclone
But given the response to "how do you know they are 15" i'd suggest that he's a boy of a similar age with some sort of fried potato product on his shoulder.
:confused: Potato waffles? :confused:
;)
Originally posted by Tony
Mod:
I noticed that the OP has only posted on the 1 topic.
So he / she is either a troll, or has a problem related to 15 year old girls'
I suggest that you let this thread die.
No actually... he is a friend of mine and has been following topics on this for ages now! And why let a post die when it has such positive and negative things to say about it?
He has a lot of interesting things to argue about, so instead of treating him like rubbish because he is new, give him a welcome! :|
Originally posted by Colonel
No actually... he is a friend of mine and has been following topics on this for ages now! And why let a post die when it has such positive and negative things to say about it?
He has a lot of interesting things to argue about, so instead of treating him like rubbish because he is new, give him a welcome! :|
when's he coming back then, and is he 15?
Sadly he does not have the internet, but has alot to say for himself! ;)
Originally posted by Colonel
Sadly he does not have the internet, but has alot to say for himself! ;)
do you agree with his assertion that 15 year olds dressing provocatively are putting themselves in danger?
Originally posted by Cyclone
when's he coming back then, and is he 15?
He is sixteen and worried about issues like this. I have recalled times when some of my ex- fiteen year old friends nearly got sexually abused. She was lucky to get away.
However I do think now looking at the topic title, he has clearly just wanted people to view it as it looks very controversial. But, i have to say, this is a very interesting topic. So i think he has done well for his first posts :D
Well im going to bed. Please do not let this thread die. It has a lot still to get out of it.
He will be on tommorow as he is coming around to my house... :thumbsup:
Night night
Originally posted by Colonel
He is sixteen and worried about issues like this. I have recalled times when some of my ex- fiteen year old friends nearly got sexually abused. She was lucky to get away.
However I do think now looking at the topic title, he has clearly just wanted people to view it as it looks very controversial. But, i have to say, this is a very interesting topic. So i think he has done well for his first posts :D
is it not possible that whatever situation she found herself in was nothing to do with her clothing though?
Now we need a new thread for our female forumers to post about unwanted attention and the attire they were wearing at the time :roll:
CONTENTIOUS ISSUE ALERT (sp)
what do people think about this.
The age of consent is man made.
Its different around Europe (15 in Denmark for example)
if you believe in God then surely when he/she/it gives a human the ability to reproduce shouldn't they be able to reproduce?
in fairly recent history it was common to marry young.
a bit off topic I know but well :)
Oh dear, don't open that jar of worms. I'm eating.
Somebodywill tell us all the health issues/damage that can be done by giving birth too young :gag:
I saw a telly prog on young girls married off in Africa
whilst there are all the health problems involved with young mothers (premature etc) it would seem odd that we have these "abilities" at an early age (and I know man made chemicals are making kids reach puberty younger)
and by asking the question I'm not saying its right btw :)
no, I meant things like a ripped wall between er, (struggles for medical terms) the womb and bladder, but probably lower down. :gag: *cringe*
Originally posted by Strix
Somebodywill tell us all the health issues/damage that can be done by giving birth too young :gag:
to my knowledge I'm sure i remember hearing that its actually better for a female to have children at 15/16 as thats the time their bodies are most able to recover from childbirth and not totally mess up their insides and outsides... its like older women and women that have had more than 1 child loose the body to be able to retain the child properly hence getting a much bigger "belly"...
then again, being 20 and being male I'm probably totally wrong... but I'm still pretty sure I read that somewhere :?
although I totally dont condone young pregnancies, I think its better to wait till your in a financial and social situation to be able to bring a child up without lots of struggling for cash etc
AJ sheffield 16-06-2005, 22:02 Isnt there an accelerated risk of ovarian cancer, I dont know if this is a result of the damage physically caused or if its linked to an immune response or both. I aint Quincy.
Isn't the early twenties the best time for having kids (medically)?
*Checks body clock and listens to loud ticking sound*
Originally posted by Snook
I think that making the drinking age 21 and requiring ID for anyone who looks under 30 would help, but I doubt many people would support that.
I'd vote for you;).
Originally posted by viking
Because "Kirky" served em beer :hihi: :hihi:
Mr Kirky to you, and he never dun nuffing rong! it wor sum body else :P
GO ON KIRKY TELL IM!
Originally posted by robbie
CONTENTIOUS ISSUE ALERT (sp)
what do people think about this.
The age of consent is man made.
Its different around Europe (15 in Denmark for example)
if you believe in God then surely when he/she/it gives a human the ability to reproduce shouldn't they be able to reproduce?
in fairly recent history it was common to marry young.
a bit off topic I know but well :)
Maybe you should start another thread instead of hijacking this one.
DanSumption 17-06-2005, 08:51 Shouldn't the thread title be "Why do prostitues dress up like 15 year old girls"?
On females' reproductive maturity, I remember one of my university lecturers saying that the optimum age was early 20s, as the womb is still developing until then.
Originally posted by Belle
There are a staggering amount of blokes out there who attack women, you only had to watch crimewatch last night to see that.
In no way do I want to belittle the seriousness of sexual or any other crimes, but I watched Balamory and cash in the attic this morning and there was no hint of violent crime on there...
DanSumption 17-06-2005, 09:43 Originally posted by Voise
In no way do I want to belittle the seriousness of sexual or any other crimes, but I watched Balamory and cash in the attic this morning and there was no hint of violent crime on there...
Yeah but... that Josie Jump really oughtn't dress quite so provocatively. If I came across her (oo-err) in a dark alley, I might have a hard time stopping myself from "Jump"ing her.
(OK, perhaps it's just me who has a thing about women in yellow tracksuits).
LOL!
Feel myself strangely attracted to Archie - perhaps someone should warn him not to wear a kilt.
I just think that teenagers in general need to be educated. I'm sixteen and have heard of many occasions where girls go out, get drunk and then woke up somewhere they didn't even know of.
Girls just need to be more aware of what they are doing... I hold no grudges... just a concern for young people like myself.
DanSumption 17-06-2005, 10:21 Originally posted by Kaidi
I'm sixteen and have heard of many occasions where girls go out, get drunk and then woke up somewhere they didn't even know of.
I once woke up very early and couldn't sleep, took the dog for a walk at about 4am, and found a girl, who couldn't have been over 17, asleep inside the "kissing gate" at Crookes Valley Park. She was completely out of it, I managed to wake her up (which was hard work in itself), offered to walk her home but she refused and just about managed to get herself on her feet, so reluctantly I left her to it.
Originally posted by Kaidi
I just think that teenagers in general need to be educated. I'm sixteen and have heard of many occasions where girls go out, get drunk and then woke up somewhere they didn't even know of.
Girls just need to be more aware of what they are doing... I hold no grudges... just a concern for young people like myself.
Sound advice even if it has nothing to do with what they wear.
However, I agreed that girls wearing next to nothing can pose a danger... it is very distracting when you are driving! :heyhey:
Lol that must have been quite scary! I found a lad laid in a park, and he looked dead...
Turns out he had just had a "good night".
He looked about 16 too.
But why blame the girls or make it their responsibility? The flip side of that argument is that lechy old(er) men / women shouldn't take advantage of impressionable and sometimes vulnerable girls and boys.
And (safe) sex can be an enjoyable and positive experience and it is completely natural for teenagers to be interested in it.
Abuse and exploitation can happen in any relationship, sexual or not.
DanSumption 17-06-2005, 10:31 Originally posted by Voise
But why blame the girls or make it their responsibility? The flip side of that argument is that lechy old(er) men / women shouldn't take advantage of impressionable and sometimes vulnerable girls and boys.
Absolutely. There are a lot of implications to that argument, e.g. people in flashy cars are just asking to be carjacked. Ultimately it's the criminal who has done something wrong, not the victim.
Originally posted by DanSumption
Absolutely. There are a lot of implications to that argument, e.g. people in flashy cars are just asking to be carjacked. Ultimately it's the criminal who has done something wrong, not the victim.
Agreed, but if you didn't lock your car and left the keys in the ignition, people might say you were asking for it if it got stolen!
DanSumption 17-06-2005, 10:44 Originally posted by Zamo
Agreed, but if you didn't lock your car and left the keys in the ignition, people might say you were asking for it if it got stolen!
Yes, and if these 15 year old girls were walking around with their skirts hitched up, no kickers on, and a big sign with an arrow saying "get it here" then I suppose you could argue they were "asking for it".
God, I hate bloody analogies.
Originally posted by DanSumption
Yes, and if these 15 year old girls were walking around with their skirts hitched up, no kickers on, and a big sign with an arrow saying "get it here" then I suppose you could argue they were "asking for it".
God, I hate bloody analogies.
you started with the analogies ;)
Besides, you misunderstand my point. I'm not saying that girls shouldn't dress as they like. I'm saying they should take reasonable precautions to keep themselves safe because we are not living in a perfect world. The girl you found in the park being a prime example of how not to do this!
DanSumption 17-06-2005, 11:09 Originally posted by Zamo
you started with the analogies ;)
I know, that's why I hate them. Every time I use one, it turns against me. I was just making a cry for help, a plea to myself never to use analogies again.
Originally posted by Zamo
you started with the analogies ;)
Besides, you misunderstand my point. I'm not saying that girls shouldn't dress as they like. I'm saying they should take reasonable precautions to keep themselves safe because we are not living in a perfect world. The girl you found in the park being a prime example of how not to do this!
there's a big difference between wearing little clothing whilst walking around the city centre (in a group most likely) and being drunk to unconsciousness, alone and in a park at 0400.
In the car analogy, one is forgetting to lock your car whilst it's on the drive, the other is leaving it door open and running in a known car crime hotspot.
It's still not a good analogy, as leaving your car unlocked is forgetful, not something you choose to do. Wearing clothes that they like is a choice and not one anyone should have to moderate because of the behaviour of others.
Sure, make the girls aware of these things (as if they somehow might not be already), but scaremongering isn't going to get you taken seriously.
Originally posted by Cyclone
there's a big difference between wearing little clothing whilst walking around the city centre (in a group most likely) and being drunk to unconsciousness, alone and in a park at 0400.
In the car analogy, one is forgetting to lock your car whilst it's on the drive, the other is leaving it door open and running in a known car crime hotspot.
It's still not a good analogy, as leaving your car unlocked is forgetful, not something you choose to do. Wearing clothes that they like is a choice and not one anyone should have to moderate because of the behaviour of others.
Sure, make the girls aware of these things (as if they somehow might not be already), but scaremongering isn't going to get you taken seriously.
Sorry, I should have specified in my analogy the the car was in a crime hotspot and the door open. Nothing worse than a shoddy analogy! ;)
AJ sheffield 17-06-2005, 14:21 Originally posted by Tony
Mod:
I noticed that the OP has only posted on the 1 topic.
So he / she is either a troll, or has a problem related to 15 year old girls'
I suggest that you let this thread die.
What a ridiculous state of affairs, a pointless statement if ever I heard one. And a surprising one from one who purports to be moderator "material".
chickmonk 17-06-2005, 14:39 MORE IMPORTANTLY - Why do 15 year old boys dress like monkeys? (thinking of the dodgy trouser crotches round knees look and the whole trackie bottoms tucked into socks thing)
Perhaps they think themselves attractive to the opposite sex? How does it go soooo wrong? (bless)
Originally posted by Kaidi
Every day i walk around the city centre and all i see is little 15 year old girls who look rather like prostitutes! If these are your daughters, they could be in danger because, recently there has been a murder of a prostitute in the Sheffield area! It has even been on Crimewatch!
Watch out :thumbsup:
Kaidi
Someone said to me a number of years ago ( all women are prostiutes ) Nuff said!!!
Originally posted by halevan
Someone said to me a number of years ago ( all women are prostiutes ) Nuff said!!!
How sad that you can go through life remembering such utter twaddle! :rant:
You ought to be ashamed of yourself :rant: :rant: :rant:
rubydazzler 17-06-2005, 16:42 Originally posted by halevan
Someone said to me a number of years ago ( all women are prostiutes ) Nuff said!!!
I can't even guess at your motives for posting that comment. As a woman, I feel personally insulted by it, and I question your taste and mindset in repeating it especially on a family oriented forum.
Jerry, Jerry, Jerry! How pathetic! Perhaps if they watched more Jerry Springer...
I guess that the prostitute who was murdered that the OP refers to was Michaela Hague? Michaela was murdered in 2001, and I would have thought that the fact that her lifestyle meant that she was in a vulnerable position led to her horrific murder, not what she was wearing.
15 (or whatever age) year olds who wear provocative clothing may look tragic. I happen to know a 14 year old quite well who dresses in an incredibly revealing manner. As far as I can tell, its because the admiring glances she gets from men far old enough to know better is the only way she feels any self esteem. I don't think they deserve our scorn, rather we should be thinking about what's happening in their sad (old fashioned version of the word) existences to mean that this is the only way they feel any self - worth
Originally posted by Cyclone
Maybe you should start another thread instead of hijacking this one.
well it was dying with demands to save the thread
observing West st. why do a lot of young girls all go out with very short skirts and little tops with nothing to identify them from the hoard. Its one big hoard of not very attractively dressed girl
Happy_Guy 18-06-2005, 12:56 they dress how they like. it's the style now
youwhatref 18-06-2005, 14:03 I haven't read the entire thread but girls aged 13 to 16 dress simply to look older, (as libuse stated) to raise their self-esteem and to attract boys. So in general it's fashion
As they are young they dont realise that as well as catching the admiring glances of boys their own age that they catch those of much older men (also see thread related to Kosovans in Peace Gardens). It will never change i'm afraid, i see it all the time especially at these pop and crisp nights (think that's what they are called) where ever they hold them.
DanSumption 20-06-2005, 10:43 Originally posted by halevan
Someone said to me a number of years ago ( all women are prostiutes ) Nuff said!!!
Must have been misquoting the God-like Genius that is Mark Stewart, who said We Are All Prostitutes (http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~edge/pop_group/we_are_all_prostitutes.php)
:roll: :( 15 year old girls dress up like prostitutes?? then go to Doncaster on a Saturday afternoon the Frenchgate Centre is full of them.
Are you after a prize for resurrecting the most dead thread you can?
BasilRathbon 04-05-2007, 08:50 As the thread is 2 years old, are we now talking about 17 years old girls dressing like prostitutes? In which case, they're over the age of consent so I'm all in favour!
ValleyBoy 04-05-2007, 09:06 Smackhead Stick insects look silly ,dressed up as prostitutes .
Not if it puts their life in jepordy
Getting in a car is a risk, crossing the road is a risk, do you advocate banning these harmless pastimes aswell? If not why not?
I'd say they're both considerably more risk over being kidnapped. (Scaremongering aside).
The fact that something *may* be dangerous is certainly not a good enough excuse not to do it. You have to look at everything proportionally. Personally I haven't seen these "prostitute" young girls you mention. In my opinion they just look like young girls!
I can tell you exactly what risk they're in from me and *any* other normal person out there... none whatsoever.
You can't legislate against nutters doing nutty things.
Frankly your original post and it's needless scaremongering sound like sour grapes, are you jealous of these 15 year olds?
SUPERTYKE 04-05-2007, 16:00 I seem to remember a fashion for extremely short skirts that made my bus catching days as a kid fascinating!
Short skirts and low necklines - (sigh) - but I never thought these girls were about to offer me business - fashions are tame by comparison now - are you associating revealing clothing with low and immoral behavior - if so why?
It's the fashion at the moment, there is no deeper meaning to it, try to think back to when you were young.
(obviously now everyone is going to claim they had no interest in fashion and spent their life in libraries until they were 25)
It's not just 15 yr old girls, I was disgusted at the fact that they were selling boob tubes and other tarty looking clothes to fit children as young as 5 for the last few years in shops. I think kids should be dressed as kids and not mini adults but unfortunately the parents that buy these clothes don't agree.
As the thread is 2 years old, are we now talking about 17 years old girls dressing like prostitutes? In which case, they're over the age of consent so I'm all in favour!
they should wait till 18 to become prostitutes though (if it be their choice of career)
Nigel Womersle 04-05-2007, 16:50 I sometimes have to smile when I drive. Sometimes young girls of an age when they are about to leave school, usually two together, linking arms, turn around to see who is driving an oncoming car. They must be very disappointed when they see me - a 63 years old has been.
cressida 04-05-2007, 16:54 "every dog has his day" sorry I should have put dogs - I was meaning the girls
Also was said when City beat United the last time at Old Trafford
I won't go down the 'deserve to get raped' route.
The campaign for the 'woman's vote' took on a militant form around the outbreak of WWI, in the form of the Suffragettes, the most notable and horrific act perhaps being at the June 1913 Derby when Emily Wilding Davison threw herself under the King's horse.
Other women campaigned tirelessly, were gaoled and suffered for the drive to become equal in post-war Britain, and finally won the right to vote in 1929. Well, not all women.
In all sections society, from politics to showbusiness and sport to education, women strove to be equal and achieved great feats in their chosen professions.
Today there are inumerable examples in many professions of talented, intelligent, strong and inspiring females being great successes in their own right, and not just "supporting their man".
So, isn't all this great and hard-won work by acknowledged and respected women being diluted and demeaned by seemingly plentiful bimbo's and tramps who seem to have hijacked the world media and be féted as icons - praised to almost goddess-status for having no apparent talent, intelligence, grace or communication skills. (Katie Price? Paris Hilton? The only way is Essex?)
Disdaining the above, positive(?) female role models- or any such 'positive' role models in today's culture (Gwyneth Paltrow? Beyonce?) - modern girls and women seem, in my view, to slavishly follow tacky TV shows and frothy-headed mag articles featuring these 'ladies' who preach a neurotic, cheap materialism and 'inspire' a screeching, foul-mouthed tirade every time they get dumped or don't get 'what they want' (usually fame, an X-Factor vote or a dumb footballer)?
And why is it 'cool' to be as sarcastic and bitchy as possible? Or violent against men in TV ads and soaps?
What messages to teenage girls are they sending? To get surgery and act/dress like old fishwives? To behave like a petulant child if a relationship ends? That it's ok to be dumbed-down, plastic and cheap with no real ambition or self-respect or stylish femininity?
Every day i walk around the city centre and all i see is little 15 year old girls who look rather like prostitutes! If these are your daughters, they could be in danger because, recently there has been a murder of a prostitute in the Sheffield area! It has even been on Crimewatch!
Watch out :thumbsup:
Kaidi
Well keep away then, no matter how young girls dress to be fashionable does not give you the right to say they look like prostitutes, do you live in city centre as you seem to be very friendly with these girls as you know their ages. Why do walk round city centre every day?
Mr Prime 05-04-2011, 20:12 Well keep away then, no matter how young girls dress to be fashionable does not give you the right to say they look like prostitutes, do you live in city centre as you seem to be very friendly with these girls as you know their ages. Why do walk round city centre every day?
Interesting, you say he has no right? He has every right to say what he wants.
Moving away from teenagers it's certainly the case that females of all ages dressed to kill look indistinguishable from prostitutes and that is a fact.
Someone asked "do people have a right to judge by dress". Rights don't come into it, people can and do judge. That's life, human nature.
Every day i walk around the city centre and all i see is little 15 year old girls who look rather like prostitutes! If these are your daughters, they could be in danger because, recently there has been a murder of a prostitute in the Sheffield area! It has even been on Crimewatch!
Watch out :thumbsup:
Kaidi
It might surprise you my friend but prostitutes should not be raped or murdered either . No low life, no matter how they perceive their victim, has the right to rape or murder them:roll:
Ms Macbeth 05-04-2011, 21:25 Well keep away then, no matter how young girls dress to be fashionable does not give you the right to say they look like prostitutes, do you live in city centre as you seem to be very friendly with these girls as you know their ages. Why do walk round city centre every day?
You do realise you've replied to a 6 year old post don't you? ;)
Flowersfade 05-04-2011, 21:29 There was a prog on tv recently that showed lingerie and padded bras for 6 to 8 year olds. How young do some mothers want their kids to start looking sexually attractive.
I have to drive through the industrial estate at the bottom of Rutland rd sometimes, its littered with prostitutes. I must admit the 15 year olds I see dont look like any of them.
The sexualisation of children is sick.
WARANTED 05-04-2011, 21:37 You do realise you've replied to a 6 year old post don't you? ;)Not only that the OP is only sixteen themself I'm sixteen and have heard of many occasions where girls go out, get drunk and then woke up somewhere they didn't even know of.
.Not much in way of life experience and hasn't posted again since 2005:hihi:
Bloomdido 05-04-2011, 21:50 I just think that teenagers in general need to be educated. I'm sixteen and have heard of many occasions where girls go out, get drunk and then woke up somewhere they didn't even know of.
Girls just need to be more aware of what they are doing... I hold no grudges... just a concern for young people like myself.
Can I ask if you have some kind of faith? Perhaps that informs you on what you should find acceptable. My guess is you have found islam.
There are lots of recent instances of men procuring girls aged 12 to 16 purely for their own sexual gratification. They then passed them on to their friends. Was this the fault of the girls for showing a bit of thigh and some cleavage?
You do realise you've replied to a 6 year old post don't you? ;)
Some 6 year old posts can look like teenagers these days!
Bloomdido 05-04-2011, 22:02 You do realise you've replied to a 6 year old post don't you? ;)
Damn. Just when I was looking for a fight.
pattricia 05-04-2011, 22:05 You do realise you've replied to a 6 year old post don't you? ;)
So all those 15 year old girls are now 21 ? :roll:
WARANTED 05-04-2011, 22:09 So all those 15 year old girls are now 21 ? :roll:
I hope none of them have come to any harm due to their fashion sense.:)
tattoogirl 06-04-2011, 06:02 All I know is that if I had worn anything like what most girls wear these days my dad wouldnt have let me out of the house!
Its a shame really because kids arent having a childhood. We used to play hide and seek etc when we were young, now they go shopping and walk around with their handbags, too much make-up and not enough clothing! Iv just had a little girl and hope to God she doesnt feel she has to dress like this!
The mere fact people are suggesting young girls dress (and look) like prostitutes is alarming.
SOME of them might dress scantily, but there's a world of difference between a normal 15 year old girl and a prostitute.
And I would seriously think you could tell the difference between them.
sues_budgie 06-04-2011, 07:27 The mere fact people are suggesting young girls dress (and look) like prostitutes is alarming.
SOME of them might dress scantily, but there's a world of difference between a normal 15 year old girl and a prostitute.
And I would seriously think you could tell the difference between them.
Would a Paedophile see the difference though?
Most men do like to see scanterly dressed legal aged woman. But I can't help thinking that having too much on display sends out the wrong signals that the woman is overly available and easy. Time and time again, its always the woman in next to nothing who complain that men are staring etc. What do you expect a man whos had a few pints to do and think? It's a bit hard to have a genuine conversation with a woman whos chest is hanging out.
If a woman is just wanting men to window shop, because the goods are not for sale, please cover up. It does send out the wrong signals, and will eventually attract some sycho.
Its like stepping into the road without looking!
Would a Paedophile see the difference though?
I don't think that's an issue, but here we go again with the hysteria surrounding paedophiles. It's NOT like they're around every corner. Everyone seems to think they're as common as rats, but I'm quite sure there's not a paedo breeding ground somewhere (Kiddy Fiddlers R Us), and if you simply teach your kids to understand the dangers (without ramping them up to outrageous proportions), they'll be quite safe.
HeatherKay 06-04-2011, 08:00 hmmm could it be that prostitutes dress like 15 year olds?
just setting a cat among the pidgeons hehe
hmmm could it be that prostitutes dress like 15 year olds?
Yeah. They all want to look like Hannah Montana, it's the new craze among their clientele :P
If a woman is just wanting men to window shop, because the goods are not for sale, please cover up. It does send out the wrong signals, and will eventually attract some sycho.
Its like stepping into the road without looking!
What are you talking about? However somebody is dressed or even if they are prostitute doesn't give some psycho right to attack them. I think, my friend, you need to have a little more respect for women:roll:
foxy lady 06-04-2011, 10:28 Every day i walk around the city centre and all i see is little 15 year old girls who look rather like prostitutes! If these are your daughters, they could be in danger because, recently there has been a murder of a prostitute in the Sheffield area! It has even been on Crimewatch!
Watch out :thumbsup:
Kaidi
Isn't it the prostitutes that dress like 15 year old girls?
barleycorn 06-04-2011, 10:33 The mere fact people are suggesting young girls dress (and look) like prostitutes is alarming.
SOME of them might dress scantily, but there's a world of difference between a normal 15 year old girl and a prostitute.
And I would seriously think you could tell the difference between them.Would a Paedophile see the difference though?
A peadophile wouldn't care as he/she would be preying on pre-pubescent boys/girls.
jb
How do you know they are only 15 & what's "normal" these days? My daughter & alot of her friends look 15 but are in their early 20's. They go out clubbing scantily dressed. Although they don't dress like this in the day.
Also IMO newborn babies dress like adults now
IMO prostitutes try to dress like 15 yr olds.
Paedos don't tend to look at them that age.
aelfheah 13-12-2011, 18:10 When I was in another town, a visiting student asked why English girls look like prostitutes?
A taxi driver says that Europeans always ask him this, so it must be overt to others?
ANGELFIRE1 13-12-2011, 18:23 Every day i walk around the city centre and all i see is little 15 year old girls who look rather like prostitutes! If these are your daughters, they could be in danger because, recently there has been a murder of a prostitute in the Sheffield area! It has even been on Crimewatch!
Watch out :thumbsup:
Kaidi
Simple answer to the post. These young girls see semi naked slightly older girls dancing around in little more than underwear on the telly making millions by pretending to "sing" and selling discs bought by the formentioned young girls. It's just copy me and the world will fall at your feet. Crazy. Where are the parents in all this.
Regards
Angel.
Every day i walk around the city centre and all i see is little 15 year old girls who look rather like prostitutes! If these are your daughters, they could be in danger because, recently there has been a murder of a prostitute in the Sheffield area! It has even been on Crimewatch!
Watch out :thumbsup:
Kaidi
I think you find you have it on its head.
It is prostitutes dressing up like 15 year old girls.
That is the only way they can attract the kind of trash that associated with these kind of women.
I know I repled to this but the OP may have been 16 in 2005 but they'll be 22 now, it's an old thread
The mere fact people are suggesting young girls dress (and look) like prostitutes is alarming.
SOME of them might dress scantily, but there's a world of difference between a normal 15 year old girl and a prostitute.
And I would seriously think you could tell the difference between them.
I think this is being stood on its head. It isn't 15 year old girls dressing like prostitutes. It is prostitutes dressing like 15 year old girls. I hear that some will dress up as French maids and pretty much anything else that they think the punters would like. Apparently a lot of punters would prefer them to look like 15 year old girls rather than 45 year old slags.
JackLakeland 13-12-2011, 19:34 Its just fashion the way girls dress. This goes right back to the sixties. Any reasonably intelligent person would be able to see the difference between a young girl dresses a little scantily and a street prostitute. Women have the choice to dress the way they like. Its not for anyone to tell young people how to dress, they'll not take any notice anyway.. I never did...
I think this is being stood on its head. It isn't 15 year old girls dressing like prostitutes. It is prostitutes dressing like 15 year old girls. I hear that some will dress up as French maids and pretty much anything else that they think the punters would like. Apparently a lot of punters would prefer them to look like 15 year old girls rather than 45 year old slags.
I have heard they dress up as Xmas helpers this time of year.
Girl bands, stereotypical men, and things on T.V that lead their minds into a materialistic world. Girls and boys feel that they must dress like and do things that the older, student type generation does!
Rubbish, when I was a kid I dressed however I wanted, which was not like most other people. I didn't give a toss what other people thought, who are they anyway? Being dictated to, in whatever form, is simply not on.
auto98uk 13-12-2011, 19:59 Its just fashion the way girls dress. This goes right back to the sixties. Any reasonably intelligent person would be able to see the difference between a young girl dresses a little scantily and a street prostitute. Women have the choice to dress the way they like. Its not for anyone to tell young people how to dress, they'll not take any notice anyway.. I never did...
Indeed - the fact that some people associate them with prostitutes makes you wonder....
Jeffrey Shaw 13-12-2011, 20:03 Coincidentally, today's "Times" has an article suggesting 'keeping it all buttoned-up'.
See http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/life/fashion/article3255982.ece
Coincidentally, today's "Times" has an article suggesting 'keeping it all buttoned-up'.
See http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/life/fashion/article3255982.ece
Not many on here read that paper my friend
Jeffrey Shaw 13-12-2011, 20:09 Shame! Don't they wish that they were better informed?
ElasticMan 14-12-2011, 06:10 Every day i walk around the city centre and all i see is little 15 year old girls who look rather like prostitutes!
Kaidi
How do you know how old they are?
Every day i walk around the city centre and all i see is little 15 year old girls who look rather like prostitutes! If these are your daughters, they could be in danger because, recently there has been a murder of a prostitute in the Sheffield area! It has even been on Crimewatch!
Watch out :thumbsup:
Kaidi
What does a prostitute look like? Kaidi?
Stan Tamudo 14-12-2011, 09:17 I doubt you'll get a response from Kaidi, He/She hasn't made an appearance on the forum for 6 years, 5 months and 27 days.
Grandad.Malky 14-12-2011, 09:26 I doubt you'll get a response from Kaidi, He/She hasn't made an appearance on the forum for 6 years, 5 months and 27 days.
Probably banged up for loitering ……….. having said that it is freighting what some parents let their daughters go out in .... As we are talking about kids its even more frightening that the parents bought the clothes in the first place.
Glamrocker 14-12-2011, 11:14 What does a prostitute look like? Kaidi?
Its a six year old thread ,those girls are now 21 so no problem any more ;)
I was wondering the same thing though
I won't go down the 'deserve to get raped' route.
The campaign for the 'woman's vote' took on a militant form around the outbreak of WWI, in the form of the Suffragettes, the most notable and horrific act perhaps being at the June 1913 Derby when Emily Wilding Davison threw herself under the King's horse.
Other women campaigned tirelessly, were gaoled and suffered for the drive to become equal in post-war Britain, and finally won the right to vote in 1929. Well, not all women.
In all sections society, from politics to showbusiness and sport to education, women strove to be equal and achieved great feats in their chosen professions.
Today there are inumerable examples in many professions of talented, intelligent, strong and inspiring females being great successes in their own right, and not just "supporting their man".
So, isn't all this great and hard-won work by acknowledged and respected women being diluted and demeaned by seemingly plentiful bimbo's and tramps who seem to have hijacked the world media and be féted as icons - praised to almost goddess-status for having no apparent talent, intelligence, grace or communication skills. (Katie Price? Paris Hilton? The only way is Essex?)
Disdaining the above, positive(?) female role models- or any such 'positive' role models in today's culture (Gwyneth Paltrow? Beyonce?) - modern girls and women seem, in my view, to slavishly follow tacky TV shows and frothy-headed mag articles featuring these 'ladies' who preach a neurotic, cheap materialism and 'inspire' a screeching, foul-mouthed tirade every time they get dumped or don't get 'what they want' (usually fame, an X-Factor vote or a dumb footballer)?
And why is it 'cool' to be as sarcastic and bitchy as possible? Or violent against men in TV ads and soaps?
What messages to teenage girls are they sending? To get surgery and act/dress like old fishwives? To behave like a petulant child if a relationship ends? That it's ok to be dumbed-down, plastic and cheap with no real ambition or self-respect or stylish femininity?
You were the first to post on this thread after it had been dormant for 4 years. What exactly were you searching for?
Grandad.Malky 14-12-2011, 12:31 Its a six year old thread ,those girls are now 21 so no problem any more ;)
So 21 year old tarts are OK.
So 21 year old tarts are OK.
Yes, they are OK.
some guy 14-12-2011, 12:45 Because the sick, vile mass-media tells them too. Look at so-called "role models" like Rihanna or The Saturdays.
I blame those evil creatures i.e. bratz dolls.
Vade retro satana!
Grandad.Malky 14-12-2011, 12:55 Yes, they are OK.
Personally I like a lady to be a lady, I guess that’s my age………. If you want a tart that’s your choice.
Wasn’t half the fun of the game the chase and the “courting” ………. If people want to show next weeks washing in public that’s up to them but not school kids ………. That’s soooooooooo wrong. :shakes:
JackLakeland 14-12-2011, 13:15 In the strive for equality some women have taken the worst traits of men, ie binge drinking and casual sex as the norm.
Although, I don't think anyone can say how someone else can dress. If a girl does choose to dress like this she is as deserving of respect just the same as anyone else.
What's worse a nice ordinary girl who chooses to dress like this or some MP at it behind his wife's back, or some priest grooming a child or some predatory gang of young adult males cruising to pick pre teen girls up?
You can't judge a book by its cover....
JackLakeland 14-12-2011, 13:17 Personally I like a lady to be a lady, I guess that’s my age………. If you want a tart that’s your choice.
Wasn’t half the fun of the game the chase and the “courting” ………. If people want to show next weeks washing in public that’s up to them but not school kids ………. That’s soooooooooo wrong. :shakes:
But its not the clothing that makes someone a tart. Its their behaviour...
In the strive for equality some women have taken the worst traits of men, ie binge drinking and casual sex as the norm.
Although, I don't think anyone can say how someone else can dress. If a girl does choose to dress like this she is as deserving of respect just the same as anyone else.
What's worse a nice ordinary girl who chooses to dress like this or some MP at it behind his wife's back, or some priest grooming a child or some predatory gang of young adult males cruising to pick pre teen girls up?
You can't judge a book by its cover....
You are comparing things that are completely different.
The problem is the sexualisation of kids/teens nowadays.
When teenage girls start wearing cleavages as soon as their breasts start appearing it's just wrong.
A teenager is not an adult.
VideoPro 14-12-2011, 13:32 Maybe they should be forced to wear a burka? :D
JackLakeland 14-12-2011, 13:32 You are comparing things that are completely different.
The problem is the sexualisation of kids/teens nowadays.
When teenage girls start wearing cleavages as soon as their breasts start appearing it's just wrong.
A teenager is not an adult.
I appreciate that...My point was more to suggest that some of those up in arms about such things have no right to be.
Surely the problem is with the adult who views girls like this as a sex object and not the girls themselves.
Although, its difficult to form an argument against what you say, I appreciate that.
Grandad.Malky 14-12-2011, 13:44 I'm a lady myself. :roll:
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Nice to hear it ............. there aren`t many left.
Jeffrey Shaw 14-12-2011, 16:21 They'e once
twice
three times
a lady.
dabuckle 14-12-2011, 19:10 beauty is in the eye of the beholder :hihi: dutty minds
michelle wil 14-12-2011, 19:15 hahahaha, oh my days ... young girls dress disgracefully ..try to get into nightclubs and still expect to get on the bloody bus for 50p....
i wasnt allowed across the road at 15...my eldest wasnt allowed to cross the rd by himself til he was 11.
something obviously happened to make them think this is ok ........
Harleyman 14-12-2011, 19:31 Life is screwed up. No one has much sense when they're young and by the time they do get some sense it's all too late
michelle wil 14-12-2011, 19:33 absolutley x
bombastico 14-02-2012, 21:17 lady gaga is showing the way to them , so what ,, can we reallyyyyy do??? :D
lady gaga is showing the way to them , so what ,, can we reallyyyyy do??? :D
Shoot their laptops?!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl1ujzRidmU
Harmonymagic 15-02-2012, 07:03 Speaking has a mother of a 15 yr old girl, i think it's hard not dressing like that, my daughter doesn't dress like that or wear any makeup let alone loads and believe it or not she gets bullied at school for it, was even told by 1 of the girls she needs to dress and look like that, thats if she wanted people to like her she needs to behave and look like them.
She still doesn't and I respect her more for that, it is hard for her but she believes that in life she should be like she wants, she wears fashion clothes ect but not "belt skirts" or anything above her knees. She has respect for herself and beliefs.
But saying that if she did dress like a prostitute I wouldn't let her go out like that.
No wonder the ID situation is how it is now, I know 13 yr olds that look like 18yr olds with all there gear on.
I think it's how they think they must look at that age.
laineyiow 15-02-2012, 07:24 Speaking has a mother of a 15 yr old girl, i think it's hard not dressing like that, my daughter doesn't dress like that or wear any makeup let alone loads and believe it or not she gets bullied at school for it, was even told by 1 of the girls she needs to dress and look like that, thats if she wanted people to like her she needs to behave and look like them.
She still doesn't and I respect her more for that, it is hard for her but she believes that in life she should be like she wants, she wears fashion clothes ect but not "belt skirts" or anything above her knees. She has respect for herself and beliefs.
But saying that if she did dress like a prostitute I wouldn't let her go out like that.
No wonder the ID situation is how it is now, I know 13 yr olds that look like 18yr olds with all there gear on.
I think it's how they think they must look at that age.
You obviously aren't a 60's 'babe'. As far as 'belt skirts' the wearing of these is no different to the ones I wore in the 60's. What we didn't do is 'expose' ourselves like a lot of the younger generation seem to do these days. I suppose we still kept some decorum.
bombastico 15-02-2012, 12:38 Speaking has a mother of a 15 yr old girl, i think it's hard not dressing like that, my daughter doesn't dress like that or wear any makeup let alone loads and believe it or not she gets bullied at school for it, was even told by 1 of the girls she needs to dress and look like that, thats if she wanted people to like her she needs to behave and look like them.
She still doesn't and I respect her more for that, it is hard for her but she believes that in life she should be like she wants, she wears fashion clothes ect but not "belt skirts" or anything above her knees. She has respect for herself and beliefs.
But saying that if she did dress like a prostitute I wouldn't let her go out like that.
No wonder the ID situation is how it is now, I know 13 yr olds that look like 18yr olds with all there gear on.
I think it's how they think they must look at that age.
i think u are the one, i mean ; there are not so many mothers around me like you :) keep goin :)
No GaGa Syle - Yes GaGa Musics :)
cressida 15-02-2012, 13:00 Perhaps the girls' mothers should have a chat with them, they are dressing 'scantily' but ask them about the person they are hoping to pull - they may not have thought about it at all, do they want a steady boyfriend or do they just want the company of their friends - maybe they are sending out the wrong messages without understanding they are, even adults may do that - I think they are mainly out for a laugh and like to talk about boys with their friends.
iansheff 15-02-2012, 13:02 Seeing as this thread is almost 7 years old I wonder what they are dressing like now? :hihi:
i think u are the one, i mean ; there are not so many mothers around me like you :) keep goin :)
No GaGa Syle - Yes GaGa Musics :)
How could anybody disagree with this ?:confused:
VideoPro 15-02-2012, 17:58 How could anybody disagree with this ?:confused:
I might if someone can be bothered to translate it.
muckymurphy 15-02-2012, 18:14 Every day i walk around the city centre and all i see is little 15 year old girls who look rather like prostitutes! If these are your daughters, they could be in danger because, recently there has been a murder of a prostitute in the Sheffield area! It has even been on Crimewatch!
Watch out :thumbsup:
Kaidi
there are a lot of prostitutes around shalesmoor/neepsend and i have yet to see a 15 Y O girl looking anything as scary as them lot.
it is a natural desire of girls to look pretty enough to attract a decent husband who will help them look after their dear old mum in later years, even if they are only 15. they need your help and values to make the right choices in life and keep away from undesirables. giving them a dressing down for not dressing down just leads to rebellion and conflict and a tendency to secrecy when meeting someone you would not approve of.
INTERVIEWER 15-02-2012, 18:14 Every day i walk around the city centre and all i see is little 15 year old girls who look rather like prostitutes! If these are your daughters, they could be in danger because, recently there has been a murder of a prostitute in the Sheffield area! It has even been on Crimewatch!
Watch out :thumbsup:
Kaidi
The problem is not the young girls, just behaving as typical teenagers always have, but men such as yourself.
Why don't you join the 21st century, my friend?
charlie9865 16-02-2012, 10:51 I have a 4 yr old daughter and I am careful as to what she wears.
As I think clothing now can make them look too old for their age and can be a bit revealing.
I think that is the problem now a days they do make clothes that look too grown up hence why 15 yr old's go round looking like they do.
There is a lot of pressure on girls in today's society to fit in, follow the trends and to look good. They see a celebrity wear something they want to wear it.
It is a subject we could debate on all day, but I think the only way to stop it.
Is for parents to take more control and put their foot down more. As sure any parent in their right mind can not find how girls today dress ok.
Yog Sothoth 16-02-2012, 11:07 They should be able to wear what they want; as much or as little as they want. It's nobody's business, and men should be able to control themselves, and not pass the blame for their own weakness.
ANGELFIRE1 16-02-2012, 11:18 "Why do 15 year old girls dress up like prostitutes??"
Just watch any of the "music" shows, or the girl "singers" promoting their next record, all will be wearing little more than pants and bra while dancing around lip syncing. The 15 year olds are just emulating their on screen idols, I think it is as simple as that.
Angel.
When I was in Jessop the street ladies wore a lot of jeans, Hardly practical I thought.
I think everybody has the right to dress how they like.
If they want to dress like a common street walker and have all sorts of body parts on display aged 15, just don't be suprised when I look down my nose at them. I believe in calling a split arse a split arse. :D
And I believe in calling you vulgar :(
A few years ago I was going to Lou Marriots strummalong at the Fat Cat pub, as I turned the corner on to Alma street a young lass walked to the corsey edge looking directly at me..
I though she wanted directions or somesuch, she had a long coat on and as I slowed down in my car, she opened the coat- she was completely naked :shocked::shocked:
It took me aback a bit!!
She looked no older than fifteen, it was such a shock that I floored the pedal and shot off to the pub :help:
It's the first (and last!) time that anything like that happened to me :P
Biggsy :)
Powerage 16-02-2012, 22:00 They should be able to wear what they want; as much or as little as they want. It's nobody's business, and men should be able to control themselves, and not pass the blame for their own weakness.
Totally agree with you :thumbsup:
muckymurphy 18-02-2012, 00:11 Why do 15 year old girls dress up like prostitutes??
if the OP had asked "why do prostitutes dress like 15 year old girls"
i wonder what the responses would be.
because they want to be appealling to paedos and pervs who might prefer 15 year olds perhaps.
discuss.
hard2miss 18-02-2012, 04:46 Without reading the whole topic, is this an excuse topic for people that groom young girls ?
Rupert_Baehr 18-02-2012, 05:33 Surely, it's totally inappropriate to accuse 15-year old girls (or anybody else, for that matter) of 'dressing up as prostitutes?'
Has there ever been a thread on this forum which argued that "How you dress is irrelevant."?
If "women who dress as if they're asking for it" (not my words or opinion) is an unacceptable argument, then how can you accuse a child of acting irresponsibly by wearing the 'wrong' clothes?
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