Me and some friends are trying to have a go at lucid dreaming and have failed miserably so far.

Just wondered if anyone had any tips on how to get started?

All i'v read so far seems to be about asking yourself if your dreaming while your awake and then apparently you will naturally start to do it in your sleep and thats the way in?!

Also, if your able to fly in your dreams, what position are you in when you do it? I tend to lie flat like superman (but without the uneccesary arm stuck out in front) but one friend tends to sit down and the other just stands up and floats?!?

Curiouser and curiouser!

To save anyone else who doesn't have any idea what LD is the time and effort of Googling it, here is the answer.

1.1 WHAT IS LUCID DREAMING?

Lucid dreaming means dreaming while knowing that you are dreaming. The term was coined by Frederik van Eeden who used the word "lucid" in the sense of mental clarity. Lucidity usually begins in the midst of a dream when the dreamer realizes that the experience is not occurring in physical reality, but is a dream. Often this realization is triggered by the dreamer noticing some impossible or unlikely occurrence in the dream, such as flying or meeting the deceased. Sometimes people become lucid without noticing any particular clue in the dream; they just suddenly realize they are in a dream. A minority of lucid dreams (according to the research of LaBerge and colleagues, about 10 percent) are the result of returning to REM (dreaming) sleep directly from an awakening with unbroken reflective consciousness.

The basic definition of lucid dreaming requires nothing more than becoming aware that you are dreaming. However, the quality of lucidity can vary greatly. When lucidity is at a high level, you are aware that everything experienced in the dream is occurring in your mind, that there is no real danger, and that you are asleep in bed and will awaken shortly. With low-level lucidity you may be aware to a certain extent that you are dreaming, perhaps enough to fly or alter what you are doing, but not enough to realize that the people are dream representations, or that you can suffer no physical damage, or that you are actually in bed.

I have managed lucid dreaming, but I'm unable to control when it comes on. When it does come on, it's like I'm jumping, but in REALLY low gravity...

Originally posted by owdlad
To save anyone else who doesn't have any idea what LD is the time and effort of Googling it, here is the answer.

1.1 WHAT IS LUCID DREAMING?

Lucid dreaming means dreaming while knowing that you are dreaming. The term was coined by Frederik van Eeden who used the word "lucid" in the sense of mental clarity. Lucidity usually begins in the midst of a dream when the dreamer realizes that the experience is not occurring in physical reality, but is a dream. Often this realization is triggered by the dreamer noticing some impossible or unlikely occurrence in the dream, such as flying or meeting the deceased. Sometimes people become lucid without noticing any particular clue in the dream; they just suddenly realize they are in a dream. A minority of lucid dreams (according to the research of LaBerge and colleagues, about 10 percent) are the result of returning to REM (dreaming) sleep directly from an awakening with unbroken reflective consciousness.

The basic definition of lucid dreaming requires nothing more than becoming aware that you are dreaming. However, the quality of lucidity can vary greatly. When lucidity is at a high level, you are aware that everything experienced in the dream is occurring in your mind, that there is no real danger, and that you are asleep in bed and will awaken shortly. With low-level lucidity you may be aware to a certain extent that you are dreaming, perhaps enough to fly or alter what you are doing, but not enough to realize that the people are dream representations, or that you can suffer no physical damage, or that you are actually in bed.

Well bugger me... thats what I do sometimes!!
If im having a really bad dream for instance I know for some weird reason that Im dreaming and I shouldnt worry about whats happening.

Also Im very aware of things as well when I sleep.

Its very strange but at least this proves Im not going mental!!
Wayhay!!

I used to have about one lucid dream a week as a teenager. I haven't had one now since my early twenties.

I think I must lucid dream all the time then :? I guess at least 75% of the times I dream I know I'm dreaming, sometimes I can even control the way my dream is going, especially if its a dream similar to one I've had before...

whats so weird about this? I thought this was normal? :?

Originally posted by xafier
I think I must lucid dream all the time then :? I guess at least 75% of the times I dream I know I'm dreaming, sometimes I can even control the way my dream is going, especially if its a dream similar to one I've had before...

whats so weird about this? I thought this was normal? :?

Not so normal!

I always realise I am dreaming when I have bad dreams and wake myself up. I have had about 3 lucid dreams in my life where I realised I was dreaming and was able to control it, and the dream became MUCH more vivid, almost spookily like my waking life! Then i strated to wake up and was struggling to stay in the dream, but woke.

very odd experience.

Apparently you can start lucid dreaming by having somone tap your hand when you are in REM sleep, eventualyl you recognise a tap on the hand as a signal that you are dreaming.

No, Xafier, it's not normal. There are a few labs scattered around the world looking for lucid dreamers to prod and poke.

I have recently started realising I am dreaming. Although the only control I usually have is to be able to wake myself up.

Being a hedonist I've tried most things, but this is one pleasure I have yet to experience. Or, at least, I cannot ever remember experiencing a 'lucid dream'. It must be wonderful to be able to direct events. The mind [or perhaps my mind] obviously turns to the erotic possibilities of nocturnal lucidity. One could, if experienced in the 'art', lewdly disport oneself with Nigella Lawson every night!

Ant! How much do you charge for lessons?

Originally posted by Ant
No, Xafier, it's not normal. There are a few labs scattered around the world looking for lucid dreamers to prod and poke.

wow, I always thought it was pretty normal :? guess its another thing to add to my list of things that make me totally abnormal...

Originally posted by timo
One could, if experienced in the 'art', lewdly disport oneself with Nigella Lawson every night!

hmm, I actually used to do something similar when I was younger, whenever I had an "erotic" dream I used to change the person from a random person to whomever I had a crush on... lol

I've been trying to think when I started being able to control my dreams and realise I was in them... I think it all started when I had a recurring nightmare when I was about 7 or 8 which involved ET lol... he used to pop out my wardrobe and attack me...

eventually I twigged in my dream what was going to happen, and eventually learnt to bop him before he popped out and chased me :D

I wouldn't say I can always control my dream, sometimes when I realise I'm dreaming I try and change elements of it and it doesn't work, which sometimes annoys me if the dream starts going bad, or I dont want sometime to happen and it does...

I guess I realise I'm dreaming about 90% of the time, I think it's rare I dont realise I'm dreaming, but less often that I can fully control what I'm dreaming, most often I can control small parts of things, like make people appear, or choose what I'm saying or doing...

but seriously, this isn't a normal thing? I really thought it was :?

I have done once that I can remember.

I can remember that when I realised what was happening I felt warmth flow through my body and felt really comfortable. Usually the dreams that I can remember I tend to feel quite uneasy in them.

Originally posted by march
I have recently started realising I am dreaming. Although the only control I usually have is to be able to wake myself up.

Me too. If I'm ever having a bad dream, I'm now able to say to myself in the dream "This is a dream", and that wakes me up. Very useful knack!

Occasionally, I can influence a dream for a short while, but I wouldn't call it lucid dreaming. I think it happens just before I wake up, so I'm sort of half asleep and half awake.

Hope that makes sense!

StarSparkle :)

We had a lecture on lucid dreaming when I was studying for a psychology degree, I went home and lo and behold, that night I had a lucid dream.

I get quite a few nowadays where I know I am dreaming, although the degree of control I exercise is usually fairly minimal. I think things which help to bring it on are thinking about it when you go to sleep, and also putting paper & pen beside your bed with the intention of writing down any dreams when you wake up can help to make dreams a lot clearer which in turn can be a spur to lucidity.

Something which I get from time to time nowadays is a different kind of dreaming where I am not so much dreaming as planning something. A couple of times I have written novels in my sleep, realising that what I was doing was writing a story rather than, as in a normal dream, living through one. And about a week ago I came up with a whole business & marketing plan for running some kind of Sheffield music awards, I worked out every little detail. I woke up thinking "wow! I must do all of that now", but as the day wore on my enthusiasm wore off.

I used to have lucid dreams pretty regularly when I was in my 20s but they are only a very rare occurance nowadays.
There are products that try to induce lucid dreams by sensing when your in REM sleep and bringing you out of it.
they have been around for many years but I dont know if they work.
http://www.lucidity.com/novadreamer.html

http://cerebrex.com/

Originally posted by DanSumption
A couple of times I have written novels in my sleep, realising that what I was doing was writing a story rather than, as in a normal dream, living through one.

I've done this several times!

For example, I can remember dreaming up an episode of StarTrek:Voyager on a couple of occasions - going right through from start to finish, with all the dialogue kindly provided by my dream. (This was after the series had finished though :( )

When this happens, I can recall all of the dream when I first wake up, but the details very quickly vanish, and there's no chance to write it all down, more's the pity! :( Very frustrating!

StarSparkle

Ant! How much do you charge for lessons?

I've tried countless times to train myself to do it and failed miserably. It must have been a hormonal teenage phase. :confused:


about a week ago I came up with a whole business & marketing plan for running some kind of Sheffield music awards, I worked out every little detail. I woke up thinking "wow! I must do all of that now", but as the day wore on my enthusiasm wore off.

That sounds like me after a heavy spliff. :hihi:

But yes, it is genuinely unusual to have regular lucid dreams, Xafier. I was gobsmacked when I found out much later in my twenties that it was so rare. When I became aware I was dreaming, I could "play" with the characters in my dream, like God. I was half in control, and half dreaming, which made for a very psychedelic experience. It was like being able to change the plot-lines in a play I was watching. Often the characters in the dream would tell me off for messing around. Very, very weird. I only wished at the time I knew how abnormal it was.

Originally posted by StarSparkle
When this happens, I can recall all of the dream when I first wake up, but the details very quickly vanish, and there's no chance to write it all down, more's the pity! :( Very frustrating!
Yes! The closes I ever managed was this (http://www.sumption.org/lifeless/002716.html) and this (http://www.sumption.org/lifeless/001825.html), but both pale into insignificance beside the intricacy of the original dreams.

I had a very lucid dream about going out with Maria Sharapova. I knew it was a dream and just kept willing it not to end:heyhey:

I went through a phase of being aware that I was dreaming and being able to control my dream. I could fly and it felt amazing. I remember pinching myself and feeling nothing. It disappeared as I hit my teenage years.

I also recall lying on my back and feeling my body 'distort' like looking down a wrong way telescope at my feet and then feeling my centre of gravity shift on its axis. Almost an out of body experience.

I had one of those when I was very young, must have been about 3 or 4. I can remember it so clearly even now 40 years later. There is so much we don't know.

I've just thought... how do you know your not dreaming that you know your dreaming and that what your telling stuff to do in your dream isnt actually your dream telling you that your telling yourself that? :?

ok im confusing myself now... lol

It is confusing, apparently one way is pinching yourself, another way (which apparently helps to bring on lucid dreaming) is to repeatedly ask yourself in your daily life "am I dreaming? How do I know I'm not dreaming". Apparently, if you train yourself to become used to asking this question all the time, then you will also find yourself asking it during your dreams, and when you realise the answer is "yes, I am dreaming" then it can trigger a lucid dream.

I remember having some control over my dreams a few years ago but looking back, that was at a time when i wasn't too well and had intrusive thoughts about being in a picture looking at the world rather than being involved in it; maybe this backs up the thing about asking yourself whether you're dreaming? Kind of similar, wasn't really aware of asking myself outright about this, more just doubting my general existence/reality?!?!

Never really had true control of dreams though, just awareness that it wasn't real as i remember (although i could stop scarey things from scaring me).

It was at this time that i learnt to fly in my dreams, now there's a story..... A friend of mine could do it and i was dead jealous so she said she'd teach me and we spent ages talking about it, how it felt, how she took off, how she stayed up (this is in waking life btw). Then after ages of me trying and failing i had a dream that she came to me and physically taught me and since then i have been able to do it. Weird thing is, around the same time she also had a dream that she taught me, when we talked about it they weren't exactly the same but very very similar!!!

Been there and done that.
Not all the time just now and again but I assumed it was normal.
Never considered that some could not.

Over the last few weeks I've had increasing numbers of hypnagogic dreams - the ones you get when you're half asleep, just when you're dozing off or waking up.

I've debated whether or not I should try working with these dreams in terms of turning them 'lucid', but haven't yet made up my mind.

What I would find useful at the moment would be the ability to remember more of my dreams. I feel I'm getting some good stuff up from my sub-concious, but I unfortunately forget about half of it.:)

A tip.
Try taking vitamin B6 pills, for some reason they really help.
Theyre good for women with PMT but they have an effect on dreams, especially if youre warm.

Yes, I used to be able to have them quite regularly. I'd be dreaming but then I suddenly realised I was in a dream and could do anything I wanted without consequences.

I apologise, and prostrate myself before the forum.

I didn't invent a cure for cancer, or end war. I went on a shagging spree. Sorry!

My God though, when I eventually woke up I'd curse because I could never get back to the orgy..sorry, dream.

I'm pretty sure I do this!! I don't think I ever really 'switch off' during sleep though...

I can stop nightmares...........does that count ?
I have this thing I do in nightmares to trigger reality......

Lindsey - I can do that!

i used to suffer from nightmares and occasionally I could wake myself up. There was an instant before the dream got REALLY ghastly in which I could suddenly realise that I was dreaming and, with any luck, literally 'lift' myself out of the dream.

Lindsey - I can do that!

i used to suffer from nightmares and occasionally I could wake myself up. There was an instant before the dream got REALLY ghastly in which I could suddenly realise that I was dreaming and, with any luck, literally 'lift' myself out of the dream.

Nooo I dont know anyone else who can do this .........we need to discuss !!!

Over the last few weeks I've had increasing numbers of hypnagogic dreams - the ones you get when you're half asleep, just when you're dozing off or waking up.
I
I actualy get loads of these they can be very vivid and i can have them while still having some concept of what is going on around me and the time etc, so can actualy think now must be (insert time) i must wake up and do so.
Also in the past i have had lots of dreams that i was able to change if i didnt like what was happening in them .
I am also really good at remembering my dreams and sometimes if i think they have a validity in my everyday life i write them down, i have had dreams telling me things i should do, and even dreams telling me poetry to write which i have woke up and been driven to write straight away.
I really enjoy my dreams except when they are not pleasant but that does not happen very often.

Ive done this quite alot. I will dream and then think "Hang on this cant be right" then I can control how the dream geoes but onl;y from images Ive seen with my own eyes, wierd
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I'm a 'Jungian' in terms of my thoughts on human psychology, so I do regard dreams as the 'Royal Road' to the subconcious mind.

Lindsey - the hauling myself out of dreams is soemthing I can still do - although it's been a long time since I had the really bad dreams that I developed the skill for, there are still times when I have an unpleasant dream that I want out of.

Moonbird - I get a very vivid memory of my dreams for about 2 minutes after I wake, but it's all a jumble - it'slike watching it on fast forward, and there's no way I can trap it all on paper. :( I just remember the highlights - last night, for example, I dreamt of an Uncle of mine who I've not thought of for years. He's dead now, and was a War Hero, and he was thanking me for doing some work to commemorate WW1 (he fought in WW2). There was lots of other stuff, but that's the main part I remember.

I really envy people who can keep their dreams in their heads long enough to write a proper journal entry.

Moonbird - I get a very vivid memory of my dreams for about 2 minutes after I wake, but it's all a jumble - it'slike watching it on fast forward, and there's no way I can trap it all on paper. :( I just remember the highlights - last night, for example, I dreamt of an Uncle of mine who I've not thought of for years. He's dead now, and was a War Hero, and he was thanking me for doing some work to commemorate WW1 (he fought in WW2). There was lots of other stuff, but that's the main part I remember.

I really envy people who can keep their dreams in their heads long enough to write a proper journal entry.
I can remember a lot of detail for about 5 mins then like you it loses bits, but as long as i am writing it down i don't forget any of it.
Also even if i don't write it if i can remember a little bit i then tend to remember the whole dream, some dreams i didnt write and i can still remember the whole thing years later.
I don't make a proper journal i just write it on what ever is at hand that's enough to keep it in my head for as long as i want to keep it....not sure i explained that very well :huh: :hihi: .

Usually, nowadays, when I'm having a bad dream I can quite quickly wake myself up from it.

If a dream's turning unpleasant, it's like in the dream I'm suddenly aware that I'm only dreaming, and then if I make the effort, I can somehow pull myself up and away out of the dream, and find myself awake.

StarSparkle

I've been practicing "Lucid Dreaming" for many years now and I claim this is as ***ked my head more than "Acid" ever did :suspect:

I have lucid dreams quite alot. If Im having a nightmare I can recognise its a dream and I try to change the channel as if I were watching TV. This sometimes works but sometimes I cant find the remote :)

I think I must lucid dream all the time then :? I guess at least 75% of the times I dream I know I'm dreaming, sometimes I can even control the way my dream is going, especially if its a dream similar to one I've had before...

whats so weird about this? I thought this was normal? :?

That is exactly the way I dream. Sometimes I even dream that I am awake, if you see what I mean.
I once met a bloke who said he had never dreamt at all.
Poor guy, the adventures you have in your dreams can never compare to reality.The only dreams I dont like are the ones where you are trapped, say on a high cliff or something, then I have to wake myself up.
I think as soon as your dreams become too wierd you realise it is a dream.

I went through a phase in my late teens when I was REALLY interested in dreams (thought they were gateways to parallel universes), and I ended up having several lucid dreams. It was an amazing experience walking through the house I grew up in as a child. Everything was EXACTLY how it was, even down to the scribbles on the walls!

Then I walked into the front room and looked out of the window and instead of the street I saw a valley...then I lost 'control'.

The most 'peaceful' dreams were ones of walks in green rolling countryside and hills will snow at the top :)

Z

I've decided that I'm going to try and have a go a lucid dreaming. I've never had one and I'm intrigued!

I've decided that I'm going to try and have a go a lucid dreaming. I've never had one and I'm intrigued!

How are you going to go about it? Are you going to use a specific technique or just hope for the best?

I know that I've had lucid dreams when I was younger, but I can't remember the dreams themselves.

I found this website with some tutorials http://www.dreamviews.com/

Seems the first thing I need to do is keep a journal of all my dreams in order to recognise certain signs, so I expect this is going to take some time.

I found this website with some tutorials http://www.dreamviews.com/

Seems the first thing I need to do is keep a journal of all my dreams in order to recognise certain signs, so I expect this is going to take some time.

That's an interesting site, just been looking at it (can't sleep so might as well read about other people's dreams).

One thing I like about lucid dreaming is the ability to wake up during a nightmare. I've also had one or two false awakenings, which I found more disturbing than nightmares.

To save anyone else who doesn't have any idea what LD is the time and effort of Googling it, here is the answer.

1.1 WHAT IS LUCID DREAMING?

Lucid dreaming means dreaming while knowing that you are dreaming. The term was coined by Frederik van Eeden who used the word "lucid" in the sense of mental clarity. Lucidity usually begins in the midst of a dream when the dreamer realizes that the experience is not occurring in physical reality, but is a dream. Often this realization is triggered by the dreamer noticing some impossible or unlikely occurrence in the dream, such as flying or meeting the deceased. Sometimes people become lucid without noticing any particular clue in the dream; they just suddenly realize they are in a dream. A minority of lucid dreams (according to the research of LaBerge and colleagues, about 10 percent) are the result of returning to REM (dreaming) sleep directly from an awakening with unbroken reflective consciousness.

The basic definition of lucid dreaming requires nothing more than becoming aware that you are dreaming. However, the quality of lucidity can vary greatly. When lucidity is at a high level, you are aware that everything experienced in the dream is occurring in your mind, that there is no real danger, and that you are asleep in bed and will awaken shortly. With low-level lucidity you may be aware to a certain extent that you are dreaming, perhaps enough to fly or alter what you are doing, but not enough to realize that the people are dream representations, or that you can suffer no physical damage, or that you are actually in bed.

Well frig me left & right....I have lucid dreams & very confusing they are most are related to death or people that I am dreaming about turning into someone else, well weird & head banging :help:

my cousin used to work down some pit or other years ago, he told me that he came home off nightshift, went to bed and dreamed that he was at work, the dream ended when he awoke, the trouble was that he was so worn out due to the dream that he couldn't go to work for his next shift.......this can't be normal surely as it's never happened to me........but then again maybe it's happened to everyone exept me making me the abnormal one....


oh well, g'night all:D:D:D:D




john:)

One thing I like about lucid dreaming is the ability to wake up during a nightmare. I've also had one or two false awakenings, which I found more disturbing than nightmares.

Yeah same here. Usually involves me getting up in the dark as I know an intruder is in the house but when I go to switch the light on, the switch doesn't work.:shocked:

i suffer from sleep paralysis i think thats enough for me, lucid dreaming would be too much to handle lol x

Get them alot.
Only recently (last 5 years) have I had the ability to fly at speed, prior to that it was breast stroking through the air at swimming speed.
I enjoy the ones where I can meet my dead relatives again the most.

I read this thread yesterday, and last night I had a dream that I was lucid dreaming.

I mean, I dreamed that I was in a dream, which I was in control of.

In my dream, I was controlling another dream, but not the actual dream.

OH MY GOD MY BRAIN BROKE.

This thread is really interesting. I have loads of dreams like this. I thought everyone did. I also have the ability to lift myself out of a nightmare. I have some really vivid ones sometimes - I always reckoned it was to do with stress. They usually involve being chased and when I get to the point of getting caught thats when I can lift myself out of it.

I tend to float rather than fly in my dreams.

Yeah same here. Usually involves me getting up in the dark as I know an intruder is in the house but when I go to switch the light on, the switch doesn't work.:shocked:

I do that as well, although not very often thankfully. I think its real - someone has broken in,I can hear them downstairs but I can't put the light on & then I can't dial 999 on my phone. Do you then get the wierd feeling that you are awake & you know you have been dreaming but you are still really asleep (does that make sense)?

This thread is really interesting. I have loads of dreams like this. I thought everyone did. I also have the ability to lift myself out of a nightmare. I have some really vivid ones sometimes - I always reckoned it was to do with stress. They usually involve being chased and when I get to the point of getting caught thats when I can lift myself out of it.

I tend to float rather than fly in my dreams.

Nightmares mean a different thing to me, never been scared in a dream, unless it involves family being hurt or dying.

Dreams about being abducted, chased, threatened etc tend to be short quick and very bloody, and its my dream so I'm never hurt, although there are the odd times when no matter how hard you punch someone it just aint hurting them.

my cousin used to work down some pit or other years ago, he told me that he came home off nightshift, went to bed and dreamed that he was at work, the dream ended when he awoke, the trouble was that he was so worn out due to the dream that he couldn't go to work for his next shift.......this can't be normal surely as it's never happened to me........but then again maybe it's happened to everyone exept me making me the abnormal one....


oh well, g'night all:D:D:D:D




john:)

I've never heard of any specific cases like this but it does not surprise me in the slightest. It has been proved that our thoughts are able to affect our physical bodies in certain ways and this is no exception, so I wouldn't say this is not normal - at least in the sense that everyone is capable of such things whether they experience it regularly or not.

Blue cheese and red wine last thing at night does it for me. :)
(Not so much wine that you have a hangover though. :nono:)

Well bugger me... thats what I do sometimes!!
If im having a really bad dream for instance I know for some weird reason that Im dreaming and I shouldnt worry about whats happening.

Also Im very aware of things as well when I sleep.

Its very strange but at least this proves Im not going mental!!
Wayhay!!

How weird is that? What you describe is exactly what I am like! Funnily enough, my friend and I were talking about this very same phenomen (sorry about the spelling) - I was telling her about it, and she thought I was crackers! I'm so chuffed, will have to show her this thread - I didn't know it had a name!

I'm jealous! I want to be able to do it! At least last night I managed to scribble down some notes of 4 dreams that I had (wierd dreams but not lucid). The first one was about a spaceship and the words "beyond" and "going to another level" were in my thoughts in the dream.

I have experienced false awakenings in the past when I've tried to switch on the light and it doesn't work. I've also experienced flying which is great! It must be fantastic to be able to fly whenever you want to.

Blue cheese and red wine last thing at night does it for me. :)
(Not so much wine that you have a hangover though. :nono:)

I must try cheese, but I'll give wine a miss as I can't abide the stuff :thumbsup:

Wow, I do this sometimes. I find it tends to happen if I doze during the day as opposed to in normal sleep hours.

It can be really amazing but it can also be really freaky

I think I must lucid dream all the time then :? I guess at least 75% of the times I dream I know I'm dreaming, sometimes I can even control the way my dream is going, especially if its a dream similar to one I've had before...

whats so weird about this? I thought this was normal? :?

I only ever remember dreams when I am kind of controlling them, I thought everyone dreamt like this? I love it if you wake up and then go back to sleep as you want to finish off a good dream :)

As for the flying that was something I did a lot as a kid not so much anymore, but I never have a body in my dreams just a mind that feels the things a body would if that makes sense!

This Lucid dreaming phenomena certainly fits in with what I have experienced, and is totally different to my night time/deep sleep dreaming

Maybe the term 'dream' is a slight misnomer, i'd possibly describe it more as a very deep trance.

Then again i'm only able to relate to my own experience of it of course

This Lucid dreaming phenomena certainly fits in with what I have experienced, and is totally different to my night time/deep sleep dreaming

Maybe the term 'dream' is a slight misnomer, i'd possibly describe it more as a very deep trance.

Then again i'm only able to relate to my own experience of it of course


Ah, so that's how you spell it!

Occasionally, I can influence a dream for a short while, but I wouldn't call it lucid dreaming. I think it happens just before I wake up, so I'm sort of half asleep and half awake.



I wonder if that's the same thing I've had Starsparkle, when I'm having a dream I either like or seem to get stuck in and will wake for a few seconds and then be able to rerun, alter or continue a dream I was having, would that be lucid dreaming?

I only ever remember dreams when I am kind of controlling them, I thought everyone dreamt like this? I love it if you wake up and then go back to sleep as you want to finish off a good dream :)

As for the flying that was something I did a lot as a kid not so much anymore, but I never have a body in my dreams just a mind that feels the things a body would if that makes sense!

Yes I know what mean, that's what I feel like in my dreams, just a kind of disembodied mind!

I've had plenty of good dreams that I've tried to go back to but never managed it yet :( It must be brilliant to be able to do it.

Does anybody know why light switches never work when you're dreaming?

Looking at this thread and the definition of lucid dreaming seems to suggest that I have experienced this once or twice in recent years. Interesting!

I've tried it before but could never be bothered jotting stuff down in the middle of the night.

Oh well...

I wouldn't try and induce them, waste of time, nothing exciting really, and its unrestfull.
It can be confusing, and misleading too, here is a recent example.

One day last week, I fell asleep on the settee, and dreamt that my father and sister in law came around and we were talking, and that in my dream I was part of the conversation.
Later that day I'm talking to the mrs about the conversation we had earlier, to find I was asleep, and although what I'd been dreaming was the conversation they had been having.
My contributions to it, did not exist, I was asleep.
Annoying.

I use to know that I was dreaming and being teenager I used them to fly around the universe ,fly to all my fantasies and generally what ever I like. The trouble was I couldn't wake up.. I use to dream I'd woke up, a bit like groundhog hog day. For all I know I may be still asleep laid in a ward somewhere. My advice stay away.

I once had a lucid dream that I was eating my pillow and when i woke up the giant marshmallow i used to keep by the side of the bed had completely vanished!


I'm sure there's a rational explanation but it was pretty spooky at the time............