View Full Version : Make Poverty History.. yeah right and flog yr tickets on ebay!


Zinger549
06-06-2005, 17:37
A lot of people who get tickets are going to put them on ebay something needs to be done about this dont u think

Internetowl
06-06-2005, 19:11
market forces - 1.5 million txt's so far at a quid fifty apiece - someones making a few bob ;)

SaveUK
06-06-2005, 19:12
So whats the answer to the question and whats the number? :D :D :D

HarrietStar
07-06-2005, 14:21
http://www.live8live.com/tickets.shtml

vicelords
07-06-2005, 16:52
They have got teams checking the progress of any auction website and ebay to determine wether people are selling them on any.

neeeeeeeeeek
07-06-2005, 16:58
I will sell mine on here, sure they wont be checking the forum.
:)

10% discound for advanced orders
:D

fox20thc
14-06-2005, 14:03
So whats the story, people have won their lottery for tickets to hyde park and have immediately put them up for sale on ebay. Ebay refuse to take them off the site and say they will donate the listing fee to the charity.

Erm, these are allegedly going for hundreds of pounds, so ebay will be retaining the Final Value Fee (lot more than a pound).

Your thoughts on this kind forum friends.......

jimmy
14-06-2005, 14:16
Ebay have already said they will be donating an amount equal to the value that these tickets sell for to the charity

"We have offered to make a donation to the Live 8 organisers at least equivalent to the fees we collect from the sale of Live 8 tickets."

BBC Story (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/4090774.stm)

It's impossible to stop unfortunately. I don't agree with it but thats the sort of people you get in this world... Money money money

Shiesh
14-06-2005, 14:26
I agree the tickets should be non-transferable!

I wish Bob was asked this question when he was on Jonathan Ross the other night....:mad:

It's true what they say 'Money makes the world go round...'

:rolleyes:

Kate179
14-06-2005, 14:26
I have mentioned this in another post but it really needs to be said again.

Anybody making personal profit from the sale of Live 8 tickets should be ashamed of themselves. It is disgusting.

KookyKoo
14-06-2005, 14:27
I think it's really bad of people to have entered the lottery for tickets only to sell them on and profit for themselves. The whole spirit of the Live 8 gig, as I understand it, is that none of the acts are being paid for performing, no one is *supposed* to be paying for tickets and the govt has waived the £500,000 or so that the organisers would have had to pay to stage the gig; there is no profit to be made apart from money from text entries to the lottery (which must be well over £3m), which is going to the Princes Trust and other charities. There is no greed involved whatsoever on behalf of the performers or the organisers. The gig is intended to raise awareness of the situation in Africa and to encourage the G8 countries to take some positive action to relieve the situation.

I think it's terribly selfish of those whose tickets are for sale that they feel a need to make some money out of the generosity of all those I've mentioned above. Yes, the line up is amazing and to see all these acts separately would cost a fortune. But there are people who would have entered the lottery for £1.50, hoping for a chance, who cannot afford to pay whatever extortionate sums the ebay vendors are asking. (I can't actually access ebay at the moment, but I have heard about it on the news).

Incidentally, my best friend has won a pair of tickets and is going with his boyfriend; they are genuinely excited and can't believe they're actually going to get to be a part of such a momentous occasion. I wish more people who had been successful in the lottery would share their sentiment, rather than rub their hands together greedily.

Skatiechik
14-06-2005, 14:39
Originally posted by KookyKoo
........and the govt has waived the £500,000 or so that the organisers would have had to pay to stage the gig;


you mean to tell me my tax is going to support this rubbish?:loopy:

nick2
14-06-2005, 14:47
I don't see why Ebay have to defend themselves, it's not their idea.

No-one was very upset about the scam with the Livestrong wristbands, or was that because we they were only for a couple of pounds and it only becomes a moral outrage once it's a couple of hundred pounds ?

KookyKoo
14-06-2005, 14:51
I don't think ebay have to defend themselves, if it weren't for ebay, people with tickets would only try to flog them via other channels; ebay just gives them a bigger audience. I'd say more those people selling tickets should feel bad, not ebay.

jayne67
14-06-2005, 16:01
Did anyone discussing this subject text to win tickets? If the boot was on the other foot, and you had won a ticket, would you not be just a little teeny weeny bit tempted to sell them? I text to win, unfortunatley still waiting for my congrats text message, vowing that I would not cash in. But hey I suppose when you have the tickets, and you know people are paying hundreds of pounds for them, do you not think what you could do with the money? I don't condone selling of tickets, but it was inevitable that some would.

Abdul
14-06-2005, 16:03
Originally posted by Skatiechik
you mean to tell me my tax is going to support this rubbish?:loopy:

Come on, half-a-million isn't much.

One family of chavs consumes that much in social welfare a year.

KookyKoo
14-06-2005, 16:47
I think if I won tickets and went on to sell them, as well as having it permanently etched on my conscience, I'd always kicked myself that I passed up the opportunity to be a part of this. And that's speaking as a student with almost £18k of debt - which is small change in comparison with the debts faced by the poorest African countries.

magicgem
14-06-2005, 16:50
I won tickets, and cant go (didnt realise at the time but Im already booked to attend a wedding!)

Was tempted to sell them, but its not as if I have lost money by not going-ok £1.50 but thats my bit for charity!

Am giving them to my little bro who really wants to go-would rather not be able to go and hear about the experience-and also be able to sleep at night! hehe!

banesmabes
14-06-2005, 17:24
It may well be legal to sell on these tickets, but that doesn't make it morally right. Ebay should take a stand on this. Yes, some of the sellers will just find other channels to sell them, but it will take away the easiest way of selling and will put many of them off. If someone genuinely texted wanting to go but now find they can't then they should return the tickets to Live 8 who can re-allocate them to other entrants.

Anyone who feels strongly about this should email Ebay - they don't make it easy, but I submitted an email going through their support section by saying I had a question about bidding - if enough people do this then they will get fed up of all the messages and give in.

cgksheff
14-06-2005, 18:05
It looks like a lot of the sales are being messed up with lots of crazy bids in the order of £10 million.

http://search.ebay.co.uk/live8_W0QQfkrZ1QQfltZ9QQfromZR8

Andy
14-06-2005, 18:17
Ebay have agreed to pull these auctions :clap:

Annoni_mouse
14-06-2005, 18:29
My thoughts,having just seen Bob Gobb-off on the news actively encouraging hackers to disable the Ebay site are as follows:-

1/Will Live 8 lose out on any money due to the sale of the tickets-NO! as a matter of fact,they may end MAKING money out of the sales.After all,whos to say that,if a ticket fetches a decent sum(One has been sold for £3000)that the seller,due to guilty conscience or maybe a genuine desire to support the charity wont donate a percentage of the sale to Live 8?

2/Will the bands supperting the event get NOTHING from there performances?NOT EFFING LIKELY!-I can guarantee that all the bands appearing at the gig will receive an upturn in their album/single/dvd sales because of it.Is this kind of profiteering any less distastefull than someone selling the tickets on ebay?

Add to this a news item I heard on the radio on my way home from work that a certain Michael Jackson may be making an appearance at the concert-of course for all completely charitable reasons-nothing to do with him trying to resurrect his career is it?

Im sorry for the rant,but I despise the way charity has become a kind of moral elitism,and anyone who dosnt abide with the general consensus is branded an uncaring bigot.Rant over:rant: :rant:

robbie
14-06-2005, 23:31
sameas every gig. ***** get hold of tickets and rip tyhe genuine fan off. Thank god for E-bay :loopy:

redrobbo
14-06-2005, 23:37
Morally indefensible. Glad to hear from Andy that e-bay have capitulated to public (and Bob Geldof's) outrage.

t020
14-06-2005, 23:58
To quote myself from another thread:

I think the reaction to the eBay saga was completely over the top. People selling their tickets on eBay doesn't lose the charitable cause any funds whatsoever. Yes, the seller makes a tidy profit but it makes this from someone desperate to go to the concert and not from the charity funds. Furthermore, on the contrary to taking money away from the cause, eBay had promised to donate their commissions from the ticket sales to the cause so it would've meant raising MORE money. A short-sighted, knee jerk reaction by the sandal wearing Sir.

Dj_Shadowman
15-06-2005, 00:11
Geldof is also threatening high court action against those who were trying to sell the tickets on Ebay.

Jon
15-06-2005, 00:18
Would Geoff or the Mods allow anyone to sell tickets for the live 8 concert on here (answer NO) but if they said yes would anyone buy one?

t020
15-06-2005, 00:20
Originally posted by Dj_Shadowman
Geldof is also threatening high court action against those who were trying to sell the tickets on Ebay.

He won't get very far since they weren't breaking any laws. He was the one breaking laws by inciting the illegal activity of hacking eBay.

natalie3011
15-06-2005, 00:28
Originally posted by cgksheff
It looks like a lot of the sales are being messed up with lots of crazy bids in the order of £10 million.

http://search.ebay.co.uk/live8_W0QQfkrZ1QQfltZ9QQfromZR8

thats what i was thinkin!! who is really gonna pay that much for a ticket??

Twiglet
15-06-2005, 00:35
Everyone seems to be blaming the sellers. If people weren't prepared to pay so much money (up to £1,000 I think it was before the crazy bids started) there would be no market for them and people desperate for money wouldn't be tempted to sell them. It works both ways.

On another note: If someone got two tickets but is in dire financial circumstances (no going on about how they afford their mobile phone bill etc. etc. its hypothetical!) and owes money to people and is living off taxpayers etc, they have the opportunity to get £1,000 - would we rather they get that £1,000 and use it to pay off people they owe or for something else they absolutely need, or that they go out and have a jolly?

t020
15-06-2005, 00:37
Originally posted by Twiglet
Everyone seems to be blaming the sellers. If people weren't prepared to pay so much money (up to £1,000 I think it was before the crazy bids started) there would be no market for them and people desperate for money wouldn't be tempted to sell them. It works both ways.

On another note: If someone got two tickets but is in dire financial circumstances (no going on about how they afford their mobile phone bill etc. etc. its hypothetical!) and owes money to people and is living off taxpayers etc, they have the opportunity to get £1,000 - would we rather they get that £1,000 and use it to pay off people they owe or for something else they absolutely need, or that they go out and have a jolly?

Precisely, especially when the sale would have no negative effect on the charitable cause - on the contrary, eBay would've donated around £30 in sales fees.

redrobbo
15-06-2005, 00:37
Originally posted by t020
I think the reaction to the eBay saga was completely over the top. People selling their tickets on eBay doesn't lose the charitable cause any funds whatsoever. Yes, the seller makes a tidy profit but it makes this from someone desperate to go to the concert and not from the charity funds. Furthermore, on the contrary to taking money away from the cause, eBay had promised to donate their commissions from the ticket sales to the cause so it would've meant raising MORE money. A short-sighted, knee jerk reaction by the sandal wearing Sir.

You overlook a number of important issues t020.

If the organisers of this concert wished to maximise the income for this charitable event, all they had to do was sell the tickets to the highest bidders. They didn't though.

I understand tickets were allocated by the novel way of txtng, seemingly to people who genuinely wished to attend the concert. Not to people who were anxious to flog their tickets on e-bay to the highest bidder, and, in your own words making "a tidy profit". This is morally indefensible. How can you defend such an unscrupulous practice?

t020
15-06-2005, 00:40
Originally posted by redrobbo
You overlook a number of important issues t020.

If the organisers of this concert wished to maximise the income for this charitable event, all they had to do was sell the tickets to the highest bidders. They didn't though.

I understand tickets were allocated by the novel way of txtng, seemingly to people who genuinely wished to attend the concert. Not to people who were anxious to flog their tickets on e-bay to the highest bidder, and, in your own words making "a tidy profit". This is morally indefensible. How can you defend such an unscrupulous practice?

The organisers of the concert knew that if they offered tickets at hundreds of pounds, only those who could afford the amount would go. They used the text method so they could get a similar amount of money raised but could offer tickets to draw winners rather than just those who could afford more. Once people win their tickets via text, they own them and should be free to do with them what they wish. I can defend it because it would've actually raised MORE money.

Twiglet
15-06-2005, 00:54
Originally posted by t020
Precisely, especially when the sale would have no negative effect on the charitable cause - on the contrary, eBay would've donated around £30 in sales fees.

I'm beginning to think I have no morals. Perhaps I should go and crawl under a stone. But this was precisely my point with the livestrong bands as well - people had bought them, they had paid their £1 to the charity (this does not include the counterfeit ones sold under the livestrong band, which is indefensible), they owned the bands. The things were near impossible to get hold of over here, creating a market in which people were prepared to pay more than the £1 to get hold of them. The charity got the £1 that they had asked for for the sale of the band, and they were not losing out in any way when the bands were re-sold.

pb1977
15-06-2005, 01:57
Personally i cant see what the problem is, at the end of the day the people that won the tickets have every right to do whatever they want with them, even if that is selling them to the highest bidder. If someone is stupid enough to pay hundreds of ££££ for a ticket good luck to the seller. If you won a pair of say Coldplay or U2 tickets for example in a raffle would it be wrong to sell them on, no it wouldnt. The live 8 people arnt loseing any money by the re-sale of theses tickets so why the big fuss.

What about all the make poverty history wristbands that are on sale on ebay at the moment, i dont see geldof shooting his mouth off on tv about the sale of them.

babble_on
15-06-2005, 02:08
If you read the terms and conditions on the live 8 site it did state the tickets were non transferable, quite how they would have enforced that is another matter.

mojoworking
15-06-2005, 08:33
Originally posted by babble_on
If you read the terms and conditions on the live 8 site it did state the tickets were non transferable, quite how they would have enforced that is another matter.

It may be immoral (in this case), but it certainly isn't illegal to re-sell concert tickets. The clause you refer to has absolutely no legal weight at all.

All it means is that the concert promoter has the right to refuse entry if it can be proved that the tickets have changed hands (something which is usually impossible to prove).

The only exception to this concerns football tickets. A law is in place making it illegal to re-sell them. Even this is not policed very vigorously, however, judging by the number of touts I see outside every big Premiership game.

Skatiechik
15-06-2005, 09:40
Originally posted by Abdul
Come on, half-a-million isn't much.

One family of chavs consumes that much in social welfare a year.

Erm yes it is....I don't agree with dropping any third world debt. They were the ones who took it and brought guns with it, they should pay it back. (Yes maybe it isn't the people who live in the countries fault, but it is the same corrupt governments who are still in power today, so until that changes they should still have to pay it back)

Also if one family gets 500,000 from being on social welfare, then I think we all wouldn't bother working if that was the case.

If only there was another solution than money, with trade I don't agree with some of the trading practices that are carried out with third world countries. Nestle springs to mind :(

march
15-06-2005, 09:42
Well eBay have changed their stance. Do a search for Live 8 now and their are no tickets. Nearly all their systems are automated so I bet they struggle when something like this happens. It is quite a lot of work to filter out and delete only the live 8 auctions.

ANGELUS
15-06-2005, 10:11
Will it sickens me to say this, but the people who have put their tickets on eBay should be ashamed of themselves.

How is the cash going to charity in this instance?

Greedy gets.. Im glad eBay have pulled all the ads about the tickets.

floyd77
15-06-2005, 10:56
Originally posted by ANGELUS
How is the cash going to charity in this instance?
It isn't - but then the charity was not getting any money in the first place. I think you should be able to do what the hell you want with them. If I had tickets and couldnt go I'd sell them in a flash and welcome Bob Smeldoff attempts to sue me. Would get even more money that way selling my story to the tabloids!:heyhey:

Live 8 would then truly be a good cause, helping Africa (with the original txt auction) and helping the UK (by providing tossers willing to pay thousands for a ticket from me) too. Everyones a winner:thumbsup:

fox20thc
15-06-2005, 11:49
And just as a point of interest.. Make Poverty History wristbands are available at all Oxfam stores for a minimum donation of £1.00, so why is everyone bidding for them on ebay?

:loopy:

Cyclone
15-06-2005, 12:00
I don't see why selling the tickets is immoral. I wish i'd txt for a pair now.

As someone said, if I won tickets to most concerts in a raffle, i'd sell them, why is this one any different.

The point was to raise awareness right? Bob should be thanking ebay as this has kept it in the news for the last 3 days.

Don_Kiddick
15-06-2005, 12:01
Nothing wrong with free enterprise in a capitalist society.

Go for it I say! :clap:

Don_Kiddick
15-06-2005, 12:02
Originally posted by fox20thc
And just as a point of interest.. Make Poverty History wristbands are available at all Oxfam stores for a minimum donation of £1.00, so why is everyone bidding for them on ebay?

:loopy:
Yes, the very one's made in Chinese sweat shops where the employees are paid a pittance to exist. :suspect:

alchresearch
15-06-2005, 12:03
It would be nice to think that the people who applied for the tickets actually wanted to go and be a part of it, rather that seeing it as a money making opportunity.

I can't say there are any bands playing I'd be desperate to see, which is why I didn't apply. I'd rather have gone to Live Aid.

Cyclone
15-06-2005, 12:08
Originally posted by alchresearch
It would be nice to think that the people who applied for the tickets actually wanted to go and be a part of it, rather that seeing it as a money making opportunity.

I can't say there are any bands playing I'd be desperate to see, which is why I didn't apply. I'd rather have gone to Live Aid.

and what about the people who applied and subsequently were invited to a wedding, or booked a holiday, or found something better to do on that day?

Don_Kiddick
15-06-2005, 12:09
And of course the Bands playing are not at all doing it for any self serving interest whatsoever.

fox20thc
15-06-2005, 12:14
Originally posted by Don_Kiddick
Yes, the very one's made in Chinese sweat shops where the employees are paid a pittance to exist. :suspect:

Would OXFAM actually source a manufacturer and distributor who did this? I thought they had an ethical contract when they order these things?

I bought one for my son but it was a cloth one, apparantly they are all rubber now.

Zamo
15-06-2005, 12:20
If the trading of tickets was somehow lining the pockets of people at the expense of "the cause" then there would be some justification for the outrage being expressed. But the fact is that the trading of tickets is actually resulting in more money going to the cause!!

"It's really very simple, Governor. When people are hungry they die. So spare me your politics and tell me what you need and how you're going to get it to these people. " Quote Bob Geldoff.

So is Bob helping the people of Africa get what they really need (money/aid) or is he playing politics? I hope it is no more than fake outrage on his part in order to keep Live8, and the issue in general, in the news. Don't know what everyone elses excuse is though.

fox20thc
15-06-2005, 12:33
Originally posted by Zamo
If the trading of tickets was somehow lining the pockets of people at the expense of "the cause" then there would be some justification for the outrage being expressed. But the fact is that the trading of tickets is actually resulting in more money going to the cause!!.

Lets be realistic, how many of the people who sell their tickets are actually going to donate the proceeds to charity?

very few I guess. If that was the case why don't they hand them in to Oxfam or some other such company to sell/auction on their behalf. Then the buyers would know it was going to a good cause.

Zamo
15-06-2005, 12:41
Originally posted by fox20thc
Lets be realistic, how many of the people who sell their tickets are actually going to donate the proceeds to charity?

very few I guess. If that was the case why don't they hand them in to Oxfam or some other such company to sell/auction on their behalf. Then the buyers would know it was going to a good cause.

The story is about people selling their tickets on eBay. EBay promised to donate the listing fee and final value fee to charity, so every ticket sold would have meant more money to "the cause". Ebay were pressued into stopping the selling, so now no money goes to the cause. How does that help the starving in Africa?

t020
15-06-2005, 12:41
Originally posted by fox20thc
Lets be realistic, how many of the people who sell their tickets are actually going to donate the proceeds to charity?

very few I guess. If that was the case why don't they hand them in to Oxfam or some other such company to sell/auction on their behalf. Then the buyers would know it was going to a good cause.


I thought I'd explained these points before - obviously not clear enough.

1) The people selling them on eBay had made their donations to charity in the form of the premium rate text messages needed to enter the draw for tickets. The proceeds of these text messages was estimated by Geldof himself to be around the same amount as selling tickets for £200 each, but he wanted to make it "fairer" so not only well off people had a chance to go.

2) Selling their tickets on eBay didn't UNDO the premium rate text message the seller had originally made (and it would've taken quite a few of these text message entries to actually win a ticket, statistically). Furthermore, eBay had promised to donate the commission it makes from the sales (around 3%) to the cause, hence it would've raised more money.

In summary, nothing was taken away from the cause, people had the chance to make a bit of money from people who *really* wanted to go, and eBay would've been able to make donations to the cause - everyone was a winner until scruffy Geldof stamped his size 9 sandals.

richieS
15-06-2005, 13:33
Can you believe people are trying to cash in on this? Well done to the bid hijackers making a stand against it!! Bids now upto £10mill.

Nice one!!

nick2
15-06-2005, 13:36
My mate is desperate to go and see Pink Floyd, but he can't get a ticket, why shouldn't he be allowed to buy one from someone else on Ebay ?

Shiesh
15-06-2005, 13:45
Originally posted by richieS
Can you believe people are trying to cash in on this? Well done to the bid hijackers making a stand against it!! Bids now upto £10mill.

Nice one!!

There is another thread on this subject somewhere...I think Ebay have now removed them all after the public outcry yesterday!

New user accounts were being set up by users to purposefully outbid serious buyers to millions to prevent any successful sales etc

It just became a joke!



:P

Siān
15-06-2005, 14:55
MOD:Threads merged

mojoworking
15-06-2005, 23:33
Originally posted by Cyclone
I don't see why selling the tickets is immoral. I wish i'd txt for a pair now.

As someone said, if I won tickets to most concerts in a raffle, i'd sell them, why is this one any different.

The point was to raise awareness right? Bob should be thanking ebay as this has kept it in the news for the last 3 days.

I don't find it immoral personally, I was just picking up on the over-the-top outrage from certain quarters.

Incidentally, if you want to see the ugly side of those caring, sharing folk who oppose the re-selling of Live 8 tickets, a trawl through some of the comments left on the eBay sites for the sellers was a revelation. Everything from a slow painful death downwards was being wished upon the sellers in the most vicious and unpleasant terms. It's nice to see these people reveal their true personalities in this way.

Can we expect more of the same "restraint" during the march to Gleneagles? I expect so.

Shiesh
15-06-2005, 23:40
I just think of Willie Wonka....the poor kid won a golden ticket fair and square and went to the factory....that was in the olden days (pre internet)...these days the poor kid wins the golden ticket but feels obliged to sell it for profit so all the bloody spiteful 'verruca salts' of the world can attend....don't seem right to me....:(

t020
16-06-2005, 00:03
Originally posted by Shiesh
I just think of Willie Wonka....the poor kid won a golden ticket fair and square and went to the factory....that was in the olden days (pre internet)...these days the poor kid wins the golden ticket but feels obliged to sell it for profit so all the bloody spiteful 'verruca salts' of the world can attend....don't seem right to me....:(

If they prefer the money to the ticket it's their prerogative. Sounds right to me.

craigmason
16-06-2005, 07:57
damm i wish i had won some now :mad: then i could have sold them and made myself a tidy sum to some gullible idiot who belives everything geldof says

Zamo
16-06-2005, 08:19
Originally posted by Shiesh
I just think of Willie Wonka....the poor kid won a golden ticket fair and square and went to the factory....that was in the olden days (pre internet)...these days the poor kid wins the golden ticket but feels obliged to sell it for profit so all the bloody spiteful 'verruca salts' of the world can attend....don't seem right to me....:(

I wish they had eBay in my day... that way I'd be rich and not just a fat b*stard with a chocolate addiction!" Quote: Willy Wonka - 2001

Sidla
16-06-2005, 21:24
Check out the email I just recieved:
hi,
i have heard from stuart that you are all interested in buying rare live 8
tickets. I have a pair of tickets which i am looking to sell. all the money
recieved will be put in my disabled brothers trust fund. i am looking for a
bid ov around £350 for both tickets or nearest offer.
please get back to me as soon as possible.
thank you for your time
jai

also, i have 100% feedback, check ebay ID bjraja for confirmation. thank
you

I sent a rather abrupt reply. I wanna try and report this to the organisers, but I can't find a contact address because the site isn't loading up. Can anyone help?

Cyclone
16-06-2005, 21:26
Originally posted by Sidla
Check out the email I just recieved:


I sent a rather abrupt reply. I wanna try and report this to the organisers, but I can't find a contact address because the site isn't loading up. Can anyone help?

what makes you think that it's really from the user mentioned in the email?

Jon
17-06-2005, 00:28
The veteran promoter Harvey Goldsmith admitted that selling 1,000 corporate tickets for live 8 had been a mistake, especially after the battle with eBay over the sale of free tickets.

:mad: One rule for one and all that, see everyone is out to make money even the people behind LIVE 8

Ditz
17-06-2005, 07:17
i cnt belive it! i mean thats my ticket that there selling! i think its disgusting that some people who voted into the text lottery did it for money and not becuase they actually wanted to go!that means that people who actually wanted to go to the concert are left out while these people make a tidy profit off a FREE concert! i say if u didnt want to go to Live8 then dont bother texting it cos that ticket cud then be going to someone who really wants it!

BoppinBruce
17-06-2005, 07:35
After the Live Aid concert, I was living in Northampton at the time, 'Sir' Bob toured again, with a reformed Boomtown Rats, part of his itinery was Derngate Theatre in Northampton.

At that time the tickets were the most expensive to date of any touring pop act to play there. These were changing hands locally at more money than the ticket price. Even advertised in Northampton's local evening newpaper. There were touts outside also selling at inflated prices on day of concert.

I would suggest that 'Sir' Bob gave little or none of the money he was paid that night to his cause, and I know that Derngate themselves gave nothing as I was involved with them at the time.

Perhaps 'Sir' Bob should muse on that for a while.

Sidla
17-06-2005, 09:55
Originally posted by Cyclone
what makes you think that it's really from the user mentioned in the email?
I don't understand what you mean. I don't know anyone called Stuart.

Cyclone
17-06-2005, 10:01
Originally posted by Sidla
I don't understand what you mean. I don't know anyone called Stuart.

did you mean that you were going to report the ebay username to the organisers?

my point was that since you have no way of verifying anything in that email as truthful, there is no evidence to say that they haven't just chosen a random ebay user with good feedback.

and there's also the fact that they can't do anything about it since it isn't illegal.

t020
17-06-2005, 12:32
Originally posted by Ditz
i cnt belive it! i mean thats my ticket that there selling! i think its disgusting that some people who voted into the text lottery did it for money and not becuase they actually wanted to go!that means that people who actually wanted to go to the concert are left out while these people make a tidy profit off a FREE concert! i say if u didnt want to go to Live8 then dont bother texting it cos that ticket cud then be going to someone who really wants it!

It's not a FREE concert. People who won tickets had to enter a prize draw via premium rate text messages (I believe £1.50 per message). Much of this price goes towards funding the concert and charitable causes. Most people lucky enough to win tickets would've had to enter the draw several times to stand a chance of being drawn out of the millions of entries. The method was chosen over charging a high ticket price because it would allow a wider range of people (i.e. not just people who can afford to blow hundreds of pounds on a concert) to go, whilst still raising a large amount of money. People selling their tickets were well within their rights to do so and eBay were going to donate their commission to the charity, hence it would've benefitted the cause more. I really don't understand why so many people fail to grasp this.

Ditz
17-06-2005, 15:03
Originally posted by t020
It's not a FREE concert. People who won tickets had to enter a prize draw via premium rate text messages (I believe £1.50 per message). Much of this price goes towards funding the concert and charitable causes. Most people lucky enough to win tickets would've had to enter the draw several times to stand a chance of being drawn out of the millions of entries. The method was chosen over charging a high ticket price because it would allow a wider range of people (i.e. not just people who can afford to blow hundreds of pounds on a concert) to go, whilst still raising a large amount of money. People selling their tickets were well within their rights to do so and eBay were going to donate their commission to the charity, hence it would've benefitted the cause more. I really don't understand why so many people fail to grasp this.

first of all it doesnt matter whther its a free concert or not they still shudnt have sold them. ye sure it cost 1.50 a text to send it to the ticket line but you would still have paid a lot less for the tickets than what they are selling them for on ebay. a lot of ticket sellers are just extortianating the fact that people are so desperate to go to the concert that they will be willing to pay hundreds, sometimes thousands just to get a ticket when in reality it will have only cost the sellers about 10 or 20 quid 30 quid tops! i mean its wrong. its robbing people who cant afford it, the chance to go to the concert of a lifetime! and anyway ebay were only going to donate evry quid from the auction of the tickets. i dont see how it would have really helped just a few quid. i mean how genorous of ebay to do that! sure there a billion dollar corporation but they can still manage to afford to give a few quid away! what times we live in!

Greenback
17-06-2005, 15:24
I agree with t020 :o

If people want to pay £100 for a ticket, why not let them? True, that extra cash won't contribute to the fund, but then the £1.50 + text message fee has already been handed over to the Live 8 organisers anyway. Live 8 make their money, Mr Smith the Pink Floyd fan gets to see his favourite band, everyone's a winner.

I think the text lottery was a great idea, giving as many people as possible the chance to see the concert. If you won, congratulations, have a good time and spend a load of money when you're down there. If you didn't win, watch it on the telly. If you didn't win and are still desperate to go, bid for a ticket on ebay (they're still available I believe).

I don't really see the problem?

KookyKoo
17-06-2005, 15:27
Originally posted by t020
Most people lucky enough to win tickets would've had to enter the draw several times to stand a chance of being drawn out of the millions of entries.

My friend who won tickets only text twice! Jammy b*****d, I text 4 times and nothing!!!

Greenback
17-06-2005, 15:29
Originally posted by KookyKoo
My friend who won tickets only text twice! Jammy b*****d, I text 4 times and nothing!!!

Bad luck! But it wasn't called a lottery for nothing ;)

KookyKoo
17-06-2005, 15:31
yeah I know hehe at least my £6 will go to a good cause :D

does anyone know if we're going to get a big screen in Sheffield somewhere to watch the concert?

Jon
17-06-2005, 15:47
Your £6 will pay towards the concert :thumbsup: must make you feel proud. Saint Bono could have paid for that :rant:

I agree with t020 your comments are spot on.

Gordie OS1
21-06-2005, 16:22
Originally posted by craigmason
damm i wish i had won some now :mad: then i could have sold them and made myself a tidy sum to some gullible idiot who belives everything geldof says
:D I wager you never even texted.